Devin and Carolina are joined by New York Times best selling author Ann Leary (The Good House, The Children, Outtakes from a Marriage, An Innocent, A Broad) to discuss being Devin’s mom, true crime YouTube Channels, Ann’s underrated career as an independent film auteur, Carolina’s underrated anti-psychotics and of course the masterpiece that is 90 DAY FIANCÉ SEASON 1, EPISODE 1!