Host Kate Williams speaks with German author, poet and sound artist, Ulrike Almut Sandig, and translator, Karen Leeder, about Ulrike's novel, Monsters Like Us, published in English translation by Seagull Books. They discuss the inspiration behind the novel and its themes of coming of age and violence, whether or not it's important to have a good grasp of the source culture to translate a book, and the use of poetic language and music in the novel.