Tossed Popcorn is a production of I Heart Radio. M Hi. I'm Sienna Jacob and I'm Leanna Holston, and welcome to Tossed Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watch every film on the a f I s one Greatest American Movies of All Time, the very slightly less Racist tenth Anniversary edition. This podcast is a safe space for people who don't know anything about movies. Today we're watching two thousand one A Space Odyssey ol ol ol oh, number fifteen on the a FI List. Warning there will be spoilers about this out of this world film any content. Warning like it sucks? Wait, this is great. I have a new segment that I want us to try. The segment I want to try is called what I Think you thought? She is bouncing of it? Wait, like, what what we thought that they would think of this? Sienna? Here is what I think you thought about two Space Odyssey. I think you were probably confused and may be angry about it, But I also think you maybe loved the visuals, so you weren't that mad. Overall, I also could see you enjoying it as art. And then I'm curious if you spotted the unnecessary boobs. That's what I think you thought. Okay, I'm gonna cry. Good, she knows me so well, Oh my god, you are crying. Oh no. The only thing you got wrong was that I, um, I did not like it overall. Okay, this is a great question. I wish I could have been a more prepared for it. But at the beginning, the stuff that was really boring to me, I wondered if you would like it because it was almost like war. It was sort of like international relations and uh wait the monkeys. No, no, not that early on. And then the part that I actually like, I have no idea how you're going to feel, and this I was wondering, this exact thing was the ending. Okay, perfect. Well, now let's hear what we originally before watching the film, thought it would be about in our condictions segment. Okay, first, let's Dorianna. Okay, good morning, Sienna. It's Leanna. I'm about to watch two thousand one of Space Odyssey. I all weak. I've been telling people I freaking hate this movie. And then just last night I realized I was talking about Close Encounters of the third kind, This one I don't think i've seen, but I know there's like a computer. It was like I can feel in my mind and going, Dave, I don't think it's gonna be good. I hate when men go to space and then apparently there's a bunch of monkeys too. All right, love you pick. I'm already so excited because the only thing I thought I knew about this movie came from you, which is you talked about how he piles up the mashed potatoes, and so the whole time I was like, when are there gonna be mashed potatoes? I can only apologize for gas lighting you thinking there would be potatoes. No, it was so funny, and then you'll kind of find them like a sort of sauce and potatoes sometimes two one through the potato lens. Alright, Sienna, let's hear your prediction. Hello, Leanna, I'm about to watch two thousand one A Space Odyssey quite soon. I can see here on my TV screen that it is two hours and twenty five minutes young, and I'm guessing it's about space based context clues. Also, I'm predicting that this movie goes ware Wa Boy at least once. Also, I'm watching this movie at my brother's apartment, and he set it up for me downstairs, and there's just one chair like five feet in front of this little monitor. I'm going to be watching it on in the basement, and something just feels like an eerie omen It feels like some sort of foreshadowing. I hope I get to hear somebody go, we come in be And besides that, I'm just hoping that it's at least in color. All Right, I love you, good back. Yeah, I actually really did not know anything about this film. I fully thought they were going to be Aliens. You watched this in the most unhinged setup. Actually, I don't know what I'm talking about, because I watched it on my laptop while my internet was not really working in my bathroom. In your bathroom, listen, I have a a monitor setup, but my wife I was so slow and I was getting ready for work while watching the movie, so I had to take it with me into the bathroom while I was like brushing my teeth, and so much of this experienced very pixelated while moving a laptop around my apartment. Okay, so pretty much the exact opposite experience of mine, which was as close to the imax as you can get in once home, but both of us absolutely insane, like neither of us watched the film. You're the way you're supposed to watch a film. Well, Sienna, if you could, I would love to hear you give a summary of two thousand one A Space Odyssey. Okay, everybody, just to be clear, this movie, it's very long, two and a half hours, feels quite long, and very few things happened. So I just decided to just tell you literally everything that goes down. Yeah, this will not take long. Two one A Space Odyssey, as I, Sienna understood, man kind just kidding. What happens is first monkeys find a big rectangle, and then presumably later humans find a big rectangle. Then astronauts disabled Sirie or more specifically Evil Serie or more specifically the supercomputer how on their ship. Then the final astronaut named Dave, travels through a series of desktop screensavers into a stupid little room, a dumb, stupid little decorative cold room, the worst room I've ever seen. I would say that made me just want to blow my top. And he sees himself at several life stages and then floats into the sky as a big baby. The end, what does it mean? Nothing? Other things to know. It's a very huge production. There are spectacular displays of futuristic space technology. It's in color, but also it's sort of like sonically in black and white. Oh my god, Okay, that's incredibly smart as a thing to say, thank you. It's because she pushed one bang to the side. Here's one, here's two. There were just sometimes where there were silences or they just isolated one sound, And that seems like the sound design equivalent of like a film boy putting something in black and white, like I'm gonna make a quiet sometimes yeah, um, when the character dies, there's gonna be no sound. I couldn't believe how much I had missed about this, Like the zeitgeist had given me nothing about this until when hal came on. I was like, oh, Wally, it's like the one in Oh god, would you care to learn some of the history behind two thousand one A Space Odyssey? We yea, Here we go two that's on a Space Odyssey was released in nineteen sixty eight. It did that go well when it came out. What one six of the New New York premiere audience locked out of the theater during the film, which I love. That is such a vibe. Why why because you saw the film It's fucking insane. The only reason I thought this film could possibly be loved because I'm like, well, at the time, they must have been so into it. Okay, we will get there. Um, many who stayed at the two thousand one premiere who didn't walk out of the film jeered. They jeered it. What did you can do an impression of jeering? Yeah? Yeah, like not cheering, it's jeering. I wish our listeners could have seen the rapid the rapidity of your mouth going. But later, stoned audiences flocked to this moving It's very clearly made for being high, and so it made a ton of money that year, was like maybe the highest grossing film MGM had ever put out. I think at that point. Okay, that's fun because I did predict. I was like, I have a feeling this is the sixties. This is also the highest movie I've ever seen. This would have been. Yeah. The movie was made by Stanley Kubrick and Arthur C. Clark. Kubrick was stressed during this film because he was worried that in real life I R L. Space Exploration was going to find aliens before his movie came out, and he tried to like patent the concept of finding aliens or he was like, what would the cost be for like wing this, and lawyers were like literally astronomical. Wait. He was stressed about aliens and then wasn't stressed because he was afraid of like what that would do to Earth. No, he was stressed about what it would do his film release. He was like, no, I'm doing aliens. NASA can't also do aliens right now. That is not good for my brand. Arthur C. Clark, Kubrick's coworker, was a gay astrophysicist and the best sci fi writer of his time. There was a lot of tension between the two of them because I wish because they started writing a novel to figure out the plot of the film. They were like, we'll put it in novel form first, which seems to me bananas. Oh, it was not a book first. They were writing it as a book to figure out the plot of it, which is so stupid because there's no plot Anyway. There was tension because eventually Kubrick was like, you know what, Actually, I don't want this book to be published before the film comes out because I don't want my audience to know the plot of my film. And Clark was like, my guy, this is literally how I'm going to get paid is by selling this novel. And Kubrick was like, no, no, no, no, a bit of a timeline of space exploration, okay, Because I was I was like, wait, how much do we know about space when this movie came out? Because it seems like maybe nothing, but maybe a lot. Once again, the movie came out in October of nineteen fifty seven, the Soviet Union launched their satellite Sputnik into space. This was the whole space race thing. The Soviets beat us. We were like no. And then in January a few months later, the US launched their satellite Explorer one into orbit. In February of nineteen sixty six, a Russian spacecraft is the first to land on the Moon. In June of nine sixty six, the US eventually got there and they're like, we're here as well. We put a spacecraft on the moon too. And then in June of ninety nine, Nice Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were the first men on the moon. Wow, So this came out before they were on the moon, before a man hit the moon. So that's kind of where we were at, spatially m Finally, a bit about the Odyssey, which is a Greek epic poem by Homer. Sienna's dropped and the light left her eyes a little bit, and that's fine. I'm gonna power through. It is the companion poem to the Iliad. It's from the eighth century b C. And it's about Odysseus trying to get home to Ithaca after the fall of Troy. It takes him fucking forever. It's like a nightmare where you're trying to get somewhere but you can't get there because stuff keeps coming up. And the way that it's related is Kubrick said of his film's title quote. It occurred to us that for the Greeks, the vast stretches of the sea must have had the same sort of mystery and remoteness that space has for our generation. Space space sis. Thank you so much for that. You're welcome. Can I ask you do you care about space? O Leona Leona Leana, No, yeah, I don't care about space. I think we've talked about this offline before. I have more to say about that once we go to phone notes. Yeah, this is our segment phone Notes, where we talked about the notes that we took on our phones while watching this film as we watched it separate from one another. All of my notes were just sort of my brain lashing out, trying to process what I was seeing. Yes, I'll give a quick timeline of the film. It starts in prehistory and it says the Dawn of Man. Then it jumps. It's basically three of a film, which is to say a film. It jumps from the Dawn of Man too. Does it give the year? I guess two thousand one, one has to assume. And then it cuts to eighteen months later for the third part of it. Sienna looks so confused. Normally, shall like not along and be like I also watched this. I am not getting that at all from you. I'm sorry. Wait, when did they say eighteen months had passed? Oh my gosh, Okay, this is right after the men take a selfie with the obelisk or the monolith and then it starts screaming, and then they say eighteen months later, And I was like, huh, it's like a series of short stories almost is. Let's go to monkeys. Let's start with the monkeys in the beginning, there's a little Bible reference for you, Sienna. Thank you. These monkeys they are hanging out, they're eating berries. It's also I wrote, I was like, this is not a movie. This is a slide show. I thought at first it was gonna be just this and I was like, okay, I get it. This is the first March of the Penguins. Right. Do you thought it was a documentary? Yeah. I thought it was gonna be sort of like a nature and I'm like, okay, this is a high movie for high people. But you knew those were people in monkey suits, right. I did know that because I hated that. I also learned from the reading I didn't get anything from this movie. I didn't understand the purpose of this monolith. I was like, they surely they will explain it at the end, and this law have been worth my time. No, But in the reading of it, they were like, the monolith apparently appears to each section of history where like an evolution happens. Did you know this? I was talking to my roommate about this, and she took a class and my brother also took actually at Stanford about this, and they did talk about that that it's like, oh, each time it shows up, it's making humankind evolve again. And I'm like, okay, now knowing that that's actually that's not true, right, and that's that's a lie. It makes it. No, it doesn't explain the movie at all. It only explains why the monkeys switched from eating berries to eating raw taper taper meat. That's what happened. I thought that was just the only thing I remember them doing was hitting a bone with bones. See, That's where I was like, what the fun But in my reading, they were like, the monolith evolves them to the point that they like learned how to use tools and people learn murder. I guess even dumb dumb me got that. But the fact that it was attached to no, no, not about the obelisk or the monolith. The fact that the monolith inspired that at all is like what. Yeah. I also really knew more about the monolith from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. When my TV is going through a bunch of different TVs and the Wonka Bar appears as the monolith in two thousand one, so there's a bunch of monkeys hopping around the Wanka Bar. I was like, why do I recognize this? I feel like this was like memed somewhere. Not only that, but I also thought about Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory so many times throughout this movie. That's interesting. Okay. Also, the very first don't don't don't, don't doll do don't do that the last part is the only part I ever get right, So I don't know. She maintained eye contact with me for all of that. That is the very first second of the movie. And that happens, and I'm like, why do I feel like that could have been it? Like we're about to see this whole movie, but I have a feeling that they could have just wrapped it up with that. The music was the best part of it. Most of the music was the Blue Danube. Okay, I recognize the music. I don't. I didn't know names. This is the most haunted recording we've ever done, because this is the most times I've said something and gotten nothing back from me. I'm waiting for you to just same way. I feel like I'm on a hinge date. I'm so sorry. This just terrifying. Wow, Wow, where we gotta read some mats? Don't know? Um? And then when I got to the space stuff, I was like, this is reductive and binary for me to say. But it was just like the Dance of the Boys. It was like all wheels, no eyes. They're just showing the curves of the space station of the music is playing is it's like, think about how deep and dark and big spaces And I'm like, no, I don't want to. I actually I'm good. I'm good good, I'm good on that. I wonder if men like space because it's the only place where they can't take up all of the space, because it's the only thing that they recognized to be infinite. Like, wait, that's so big and empty. I can't bone that, but I will try. So this movie, I think can be classified as dumb sucking art. Yes, um one, I was thinking that while watching it. This is another thing that a guy made. And then is everybody's like so good because he you know, made it silent sometime times or whatever. Um. What I will give this movie that I would not give to say raging and think about this one is at least this one tried all right. There was music, there were amazing production elements, you know, like there were very very cool space technologies. And clearly a lot of people worked on this film. This was clearly not just Kubrick, you know. So at least it put in any effort to make this like a movie instead of just doing black and white and then like jizzing all over itself, you know. But unfortunately it's an unwatchable film. First of all, is the first time any humans speak, just to be clear, and right above that, five minutes before I had to take a nap. Right before that, I wrote in all caps, this absolutely sucks. Did you know about the monkeys before the movie? No? Oh wow, I didn't. That must have been shocking. I was. I was so shocked for so much of this film because it's also these days. If you were to hear like, oh, it's called a space Odyssey, it'd be like, oh, it's probably Guardians of the Galaxy, like people bopping around with a bunch of cookie characters and costumes in space, and then you're hit with the dawn of man and a monkey hitting the ship out of another monkey. Also, can we talk about how much that taper bounced? Tell me more? It's like intercut with the monkey learning how to use tools and figuring out how to do murder. Yeah, why is it bouncing? I don't know. Also, I was like, were they trying to do that to imply that it was getting murdered without showing violence? But like bouncing a taper down a hill is violence against that taper? I don't think that was an okay creature by the end of that sequence. Yeah, I need to be clear about something real quick, because I don't want to just say like, oh, this movie sucks. The reason that this movie was so unpleasant or why it made me so freaking mad, is because it didn't make any sense. No, like that. It's a perfect example. Why is a taper falling down at the same time as the inner cut with a monkey smacking things around? Yeah? What I'm going to say something that people are not gonna like. Okay, this movie was lazy storytelling. It was a very, very very lazy movie. So lazy. Oh I The first thing I wrote down, honestly, I think before the movie even started, was thinking, the world will automatically be better in two thousand one without you doing any work. It's such a male thing. I also read when they showed the future, that's one thing that this movie does is like show the future a lot. What they imagine the future would be like just like L O L. How whenever they showed the future in like the mid century or later, they never pictured other groups having more rights, Like it's still always like men in a different, more expensive location. Yeah, I'm like, wow, So the women are still serving everybody and there's literally no people of color anywhere, like not even when there's all these differ countries coming around here, they're all white countries. Like you can't picture anyone else. That's not how you see progress happening. This is the sixties, it should be happening. They're like, in two thousand one, women will still have nothing to do. Men will still be bad fathers. Do you remember when the guy was like, sorry, sweetie, I can't come home for your birthday. I'm on the moon. Yeah, and then the girls like I want to phone for my birthday. So I was like, okay, predicting the future, all right, we'll give him that one. But the thing with this movie that really pissed me off was that they don't explain it, and Kubrick afterwards was like, I'm not going to explain what this means to me, like you figure it out, and that I'm like no, no, you're you. You just tell us now, you explain why there's a fucking monolith and why it's floating through some guitar. Hero asked visuals to turn a man into a fetus? How dare it? How dare this film? And it's like, I don't have time to interpret this. I have a full time jobed like I had to leave this movie and go to an office. You can't do this in film. People have to get on with their damn days. Okay, So then those guys, the bad dad discovers the other monolith on a on the moon. Yeah, okay, this bad dad his name is like Dr Floyd, and he goes to I guess the moon and gives a speech and he's like hey everyone. Oh. But before that, he has like a very cryptic meeting with a man in a space hotel and he's like, no, nothing's wrong up there. But the man is like, we literally haven't heard from these people in ten days, and the guys like, I'm actually not at liberty to discuss. And then he goes and gives a speech on the moon to the people who they nobody's heard from, and he's like, we have to keep it a secret. But like, what are they keeping a secret? The epidemic on Clavius? Thank you? So so many parts of this could have been interesting. Maybe there's like something interesting going on on a cool place called Clavius. Also, I wrote that down. I listened, I went back and I wrote that down because I was like, well, this probably is something that's going to come back, and and he's giving something to his audience. I feel like an idiot, I felt. So it was like the beginning of Avatar, but stupid and worse. I also, having a meal that you have to consume entirely with straws would be so embarrassing, Like I cannot imagine being a professional man and then being like, now off, I go to sip my entree. That's where I thought the mashed potatoes might come in. I am so sorry again. Can we talk about when the soundtrack just became Windy Men? Okay, so first of all, we need to say we transition away from the first part with the bad Dad. That was just a lot of show and space technology and stuff like that. Yeah, kind of cute, all right. The Windy Man is when they go see the monolith with the bad Dad who's on the moon for his daughter's birthday, and then all the guys take a selfie with it. But as they're approaching the monolith, this soundtrack is exclusively like a bunch of dudes going When they were like and I was like, this is so this movie of men making a space film, because the Wizard of Oz did like a beautiful housewife singing reveal when she enters into Oz, and this was the polar opposite. It was such a worse version of it. And I was like, this is why I hate when men make films, because that's how it feels the whole time. It's just windy men being loud. I was laughing a lot of that part. Actually, I was like, what is happening? Okay, I'd like to move to the Space Boys, because this is the first time I actually sort of tuned into the movie before that. It was it was absolute hell for me and all I all I wrote was like, what it feels like something that would play on the wall of a space museum. I was thinking about this. I actually thought a good use for this movie would be to play be playing at like the back of a club or something, so that when your friend starts making out with somebody that you can look up at the wall and have something to look at. Thank you. But this is the first time that there are like more people who talk to each other. And now that there's people talking to each other, even though it was mostly talking to the supercomputer Spooky Red Eye, who we do not meet until minute oh Man. Also there's some fun space technology again, there's sort of a spy kids sort of the food comes out all hot, and I also aesthetically it really kicked up a notch here too. At the very beginning, they're introducing like who's on the ship and it's too awake boys Frank and Dave and then three people who have been like frozen in time. Yeah, and the line is this is the first time that men have been put into hibernnation. And I was like, maybe let's do it again. So there's how the supercomputer who they're trusting. He's the one who's like the serie for their ship. Basically, first of all, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. First of all, there's Dave. He is introduced running a big old jog around this hamster wheel of a space station situation. He's also punching training for why is he punching the air while jogging in these teeny tiny white shorts. We'll hear about this in my badges section mine. Dude, Okay, this might be off the record, but I did right. Okay, an anti gravity punching jog s Michael and I am horny though it works. For some reason, I felt aggressed during this film, first of all, by two good butts being presented to me that I cannot access. And then second, Dave can fucking draw. I wanted to talk about this drawing. I was so mad. Why can everyone draw but I cannot? Did I miss a meeting? So basically, the supercomputer is like, Dave, I see you've been drying. And Dave's like, yeah, you want to look my drawings? And then he goes through and he goes, here's my friends sleeping. Um, here's my friends sleeping. Um, here's my friends sleeping. And here's my other friends sleeping. They're all the same picture from different angles because there's only one thing to draw. But they're all really good. No, they are really good. Yeah. Also, the hell wants to bone Dave. That's definitely what he got rid of. Frank, Okay, we have to talk about getting rid of Frank. The comedy peak of the movie too idiots try to do space espionage and it doesn't work because the robot is way smarter than them, and then Frank goes out to like fix the thing, it doesn't matter. But Dave is inside the ship and he sees in silence, a teeny tiny man twirling through the Alexi, completely untethered, which is how I felt for this entire film, and then Dave goes out to get him in his little pod with his claws. Then he grabs onto. Frank comes back and then Hal is like, I'm afraid I can't open the doors for you, Dave. So then Dave's like, okay, fine, I'll open through the emergency hatch, and then Dave has to soft launch Frank into space. And it was so funny. It was very silly, and the silence too sort of just highlights him going like whoa, that's so stupid. Also, we have to mention that they're like That is also sandwiched by scenes of just oh. I could sum up this film in two word chunks, which are music continues, breathing heavily. That's like most of the second half of the film. Yeah, and so much breathing. It was the original a SMR moment for about fifteen full minutes as he goes to check on a thing, and then the result is that he's like, yeah, there was nothing wrong, and those are like, I get that's cool, but you gotta admit Kubrick, like you could have cut it down. Here's what I would like to say to this movie is just all right, we're good. We got it. We're good. All right, you did it, you did it. That was great, we got it, we get it. Good efforts space, I get it. Yeah. I also, I knew the robot was evil, so there wasn't any suspense he was immediately evil. Yeah. I also, I'm going to say Dave did not seem to care that he had a soft lodge frank into deep space. These characters and movies aren't sad. Was part of the haze codes like men cannot exhibit emotion. Honestly, that's very possible to believe that. What did you think of the scene? Ze that scene? Yeah, I do remember being pretty high on the aesthetics at this time. So they're turning off How and how starts forgetting his programming and then he sings a song. I don't know. I thought it was stupid. I think it is the premise of it. But we the thing is okay, the movie with How had been like thirty minutes long. It wasn't the movie. It wasn't the whole movie. I wasn't attached to anybody here because it's like a vin yet within the entire film, so it hadn't been a big build up. I would have loved if this movie had only been How and the Astronauts. That would have been a really cool movie. I don't know why they didn't do that. Why did they do that? You know, she's looking at me like I have the answers, Leanna, Hello, Gabe. I don't know what to tell you. I think it's because they just let men make kind of anything in the past, and they're like, sure, I can feel my mind going day to get us act. We'll be right back. Shall we move on to the end? Part three Jupiter Ascending, starring Channing Tatum. So remember I was like, you know what, this movie has kind of looked up. I'm loving everything that I'm seeing, all these cute food technologies and such and pretty colors. And then Dave gets launched. Dave shuts down how and then the ship gets absolutely heeded towards Jupiter and then they kind of he kind of goes through a lava lamp. I was into it. Wait, they also do another Wally thing. When Hal gets shut down, a screen like blips to life and the guy from the past, bad Dad, is like, hey, boys, let me explain everything that's going on and why. I get why they made Wally because they're like, how could we make this movie actually good? Oh my god? He gets launched through this world of color again. I was into it. Though it was very long, it would be really fun high, It really would. Here's what I thought as I was watching that, the colorful lava lamp time. I was like, if this movie just ends right now, I'm going to be annoyed because this doesn't make any sense. Little did you know it was gonna get way worse, Leanna. I feel like, just take it away, okay. Yes. So Dave plays guitar hero for twenty minutes and then arrives at Versailles. It's like Versailles meets the Portal. If anybody plays Portal, the room that you wake up in it's like a cold, blank white room with ornate decorated furniture. It's so what the fuck, It's so stupid, it's so unbelievably like incomprehensible. Also, this is why you shouldn't cast only white men in your films. Is they were trying to say that, like, oh my gosh, Dave aged by getting to Jupiter because he's like an older man in the suit. But I just thought that that was the bad dad from earlier in the film. Literally everybody looked the same. I kept confusing them. Also had no idea. So Dave gets to this room and his pod is in there too, huge pod next to his bed, and then all of a sudden he's on the other side of the room and then the pod is gone, and I'm like, oh god, damn it is this gonna get abstract? Then he looks in the mirror and his skin is wrinkled, and I'm like, I guess because he went really fat flapped off. What I was like, does space h you like, I know, zero gravity body? I thought it was the opposite. I thought it was like time kept passing, but you stayed, you know. Then he looks to the side and he sees he sees a man with white hair from the back who seems to be eating meal, and the man turns around slowly. He turns and oh surprise, it's Dave's face, but older again. Then he looks to his bed and he sees an even older man, so bald literally Ryan Reynolds as deadpool wrinkled scalp wrinkled face in his bed, and then Dave old, wrinkled bald. Dave in the bed looks forward and can you guess what's there but a freaking big black rectangle? And then the baby the fetus. Remember the bubble with Glinda Wizard of Oz. It's like that, except for instead of a good witch in there, it's Dave is a fetus. This says, this movie is like what if we took a movie that was good and had women in it and we made it in space and bad. I wrote down, I was like a fetus. I didn't think this movie could get worse, and then it did. You can't imagine my jaws on the floor. I am aghast, I yelled, what allowed? That baby also looked a fun toun like Dave. And that is another moment of the film. It is but okay, you don't understand drawing, But that's it's crazy to me. What are you gonna say? I'm about to say that you don't ever, you're never astounded by any production moments because you're like, yeah, the movie did it, Leanna, this is nineteen sixty eight. I don't know how they made this look just like him. This they don't have c g I, but they could draw. Would you be able to draw? It's hard, it's really hard to but just a drawing of a baby. It looked like a large fetis floating towards earth. It was I really have no idea. I don't know. I mean, I think building a spaceship would also be hard, and they did that for this movie exactly. But also what I think this also, why did they draw it so scary? If they were going to draw anything, even if it had Dave's face, it didn't have to look terrified. It could have at least made it like like I'm a little babe, I'm the dawn of boys. Okay, what I was gonna say is it looked so much like Dave. That is impressive. This is yet another time where this movie where Kuper just like doesn't get where his strengths lie. It's like, listen, the lighting in this scene. The symmetry of this shot, that was pretty cool. Bro, Stick to that. You found an artist who made this guy look exactly like Dave. Like stick to that, bro, Like make a movie about babies, maybe, Like, don't make this. This was this was not the right use of your skill. Like, fully, stay in your lane, my guy. I want to hear your last few notes of on your page. My last three notes, literally, the last three bullet points are why did they make the fetus so ugly? The fetus looked to camera is far scarier than Norman Bates is. And no post credit scene because I stayed through the entire t of The Blue Danube for the millionth time to see if somebody was gonna pop up with me. Like, by the way, this is what the model I was all about. Like the psychiatrist at the end of Psycho, when a guy comes out and says, all right, I'm gonna explain to you everything that went down. The author couldn't figure out a better way to wrap this all up, so now I'm here. Honestly, I would have been grateful for it this time. Like even at the end of Citizen Kane, they show you what Rosebud is this is like if Citizen Kane happened. And then by the end we were like, wait, what the quos rosebud. Even though it was a stupid sled, at least they told us it's true. That was actually a real upside of that film. I said, there was an answer to their whole on the floor. Did you spot the unnecessary boot? I wanted to know what you meant. I am not a hut And they were actually in the film. But when I was reading about the movie doing my research for the historical context, I read about this exhibit that they did at this son I in where they did an exact replica of the room at the end of the movie with the glowing floor and the stupid period piece furniture, and one of the paintings on the wall was a naked woman. I do remember this. There were paintings. They really sneak it in there. Even in a space film with only men and a horny robot. It was space. That is one thing I was giving this film credit for it two because I was like, when you put them in space, then they can't they have sex with a teenage girl. That's true because they're away from everybody else. It's kind of the place for them to be is like far away. But even so they managed to bring it back. They didn't how could they bring a boob into this? I know they're on space. There are no boobs in space space, no one can bring a boob. I really was like, no, you're so right, because every space movie you're like literally the definition of being in space as you can't have like skin exposed to space or you'll like turn into a rock or whatever. But they wouldn't explain the single damn thing about the plot. And yet they found a way to put boobs in space. One small stepper man two boobs are men. Okay, My final notes are I was having a great time and now I'm confused. The end of this meant nothing at all. And then finally, if William Shatner comes back as a big baby, I'm gonna be so mad. And we have a topical joke from Sienna. As you know, William Shatner recently went to space as the oldest man to do it. I hope he does. Oh me, oh my. Shall we move on, Yes, let's move on the segment it's called Badges and Trages, where we award badges for things we think the film did well, and trages for parts of the film that were stupid and bad and boring and long and silent and stupid and bad. Leona, would you like to give me something? I will rally through mine quickly. I got a badge for this hot pink furniture, This hot pink bubble furniture. No less. This is when they're at the Space Station hotel and he's like, sorry, Darling, I'm on the moon, happy seventh birthday, and everybody's sitting on this fun asked bubble furniture that looks like the balloon dogs but if they were chairs. Wait, that was your first badge. That was my first bag. Okay. My second badge is bad for a good but in teeny tiny white shorts. And then at later a badge for we saw two good butts. The more that are on screen at a time, the happier and only on it. And then my last badge I didn't have many, but my last one was a badge for a very lux robe. This is when Dave is in his like third iteration of his own self and he's eating his meal and then he goes to check on if other Dave was like breathing at him, and he's wearing this gorge is like velveteen robe. And I just love a robe moment because I don't have like a good robe right now, and that's something I want in my life. But they're so they take off so much space, and they're expensive and if you get the wrong one, you're like too sweaty in it. So this looked like a very ideal robe, So bad just for me. I also started with freaky future chairs bubble furniture, as you said, apparently that influenced real furniture after this film from this very film. Wow. Yeah, monochrome suits of the same style. All the men in this future hotel you were talking about the bad dad was wearing a gray suit with sort of a little bolo tie moment of at the top, and then the other guy to show he was American. Yeah, well actually the other guy who was Russian was wearing the same exact thing, but it was brown. A badge for some fun technology, mostly food related. A badge for visible panty lines. One of the stored noses. At one point, she's wearing white pants and there was some slight visible panty lineage, and I support that for some reason. That's like peak feminism to me. For myself, I'm like, yes, deal with it. Badge for incredibly square sandwiches. Mid century America did sandwiches like nobody's business. It was. This was like a platonic sandwich, all right. Angles badge for little shorts, Badge for general esthetics, pretty colors, symmetry, et cetera, and badge for I get it. They at least put some work in. But dot dot dot trages, Yes, okay, I got a trash for slapping a taper in the face. A monkey slaps the taper in the face, It's crazy. A trag for genuinely scary gorilla costumes, a trag for having to watch a child act. I will never enjoy that on screen. I hated that very much. A trag Four Are we going to talk about the monkeys ever? Again? This I wrote down when they were talking about the hibernating doctor's dying or when Hall was killing off the dot, I was like, wait a second, this movie started with monkeys. Where did they go? And then finally a trag four an ugly fetus staring directly at me. That is not anything I've ever wanted or will ever want. I don't think anybody wants that a fetus to make eye contact with you. What is going on in the ultrasound? If that is happening, try just for me. All white guys with brown hair, yeah, literally couldn't tell them apart and made this very confusing movie somehow more confusing trag for humans in chimpsuits slash monkey suits. That actually disturbs me very deeply, and I'm going to keep having nightmares about it. Okay. And finally, stupid, stupid, stupid ending. I can't with a stupid ending, no patience for it, Okay, Leanna, Actually, okay, listeners. Next up is a segment called how to Pretend You've seen this film. This is something we'll give to you because I know that when Stanley comes up to you at the library, when you're just trying to enjoy your World War One biography and Stanley comes up, he taps you on the shoulder and he goes, look out there, that's the sky. I don't know if you knew this, but that's where spaces. And if there's one thing I love as much as I love space, it's the movie two one, A Space Odyssey. Yeah, have you seen it? These are some things that you can say to Stanley to get him too, sh Stanley, I'm a little bit British, and yes, of course I've seen that film. Might just I love any film that starts with a sequence called the Dawn of Man and you get to see someone get quite literally bound to death, Stanley, the rectangular monolith in this film represents not only the four corners of a rectangle, but the four corners of man kind. Corner one, young yet wrinkly, corner two, eating dinner, corner three, bald in bed, and corner four a fetus that silence Stanley was a quote from the film two thousand one Space. Oh to see Hm well gorgeous segue into our next segment called should you watch this? Or in which we tell you if we think you should watch this film or if you could do absolutely anything else with your time. Sienna, what would you say, boy, I could have told you this five minutes in. Don't watch this movie? No, no, no, no, no. Matter what's good about this movie, I can say for sure you shouldn't watch it. No, it's not to be watched. Um the middle part of the movie, like I liked looking at but I it's absolutely not worth it, and I'm I'm not going to do it again. Maybe high What you should do instead is watch Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. As we discussed, it has all the things you need, It has little TVs, it has technology. There are the same sort of British men, and there is a supercomputer that I think fails to tell them where the chocolate the Golden ticket is. So I literally have no recollection of a supercomputer. I might be wrong perfect. I often will do a thing called should you watch this? Or should you watch nine seventeen? And oh baby, we're doing it again because this week, this literal week, I had a dream that I was in a bar with several friends and George McKay was there. But all of my friends ruined it because they very loudly kept saying, Leanna, George mackay is here. Anyway, I would say, you should, of course watch nineteen seventeen. There's not that much dialogue in that movie. It is set in the outdoors. There's two boys spending time together, coming up against an evil force, which is a German in a plane. His friend dies, his friend dies the partner, but they actually do acting in nineteen seventeen. There's not necessarily good, but but there is a good Calf because Mark Strong appears Calf first in nineteen seventeen. That's the only thing you see of him for a while, and it's good. Also, he sails down the river, just like he sails down the sort of beautiful oh my god, oh my psychedelic lava river. Shoot, Leana. How would you rate this film? How would I rate this film? I'm going to give this one sipable meal out of five, and I would give it one because I wasn't like angry the whole time I was watching it, the parts that were psychedelic and whatever. I was like, all right, like we have better photos of space now, so I don't really care. But at least you're not like killing a woman. I felt that way a lot about this. At least no women got killed or like assaulted. How about you, Siena. I'm gonna give this movie point six Space Pod Claws out of five, and that's because I really liked the middle a lot, Like I remember feeling good, but that's such a distant memory because everything I hated I hated so much. I was so confused. It actually has been bringing me to tears. No, I'm not sad, tears of anger. Yeah, I'm glad to do this podcast, so I had somewhere to let it out. But it had to rank low for me. I was I was not please. I was very mad. I really feel like this film shouldn't be on the one Greatest American movies. That should just be on the one, like, well they sure did something movies. Yeah, all right, everybody, that is it for Tossed Popcorns episode on two thousand one a Space Odyssey spe Thank you so much for listening. If you liked this episode, please rate us five stars on the Apple Podcasts Happen. Leave a lovely little comment. We'd love to read it, please and thank you. 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