I almost wasn’t smart enough to have this conversation but I just managed to hang on by the skin of my metaphoric teeth. Dr Norman Swan, trained in paediatrics, was one of the first medically qualified journalists in Australia, with a broadcast career spanning more than 30 years. He currently hosts Radio National's ‘The Health Report’ and co-hosts ‘Coronacast’, which has 2.6 million monthly downloads. He also reports on the ABC TV's 7.30, is a guest reporter on ‘Four Corners’; appears on ‘The Drum’ and is an occasional host of Radio National Breakfast. His last book ‘So You Think You Know What's Good for You?’ became a bestseller in 2021 and his latest book ‘So You Want to Live Younger Longer’ is flying off the shelves (both physical and virtual). Enjoy.