We tend to discuss food in terms of micros and macros, good and bad fats, nutrient rich and nutrient poor, processed or not, energy in and out.. all normal and reasonable conversations to have. But our ‘relationship’ with food (we all have one) is about so much more than just the ‘body stuff’ (physiology). It’s about psychology, social programming, culture, rituals, habits, rules, emotions and lots more. Joel Feren is a dietician who understands that healthy eating is not just about what we eat but also how, why and when we eat. This was a fun and broadly relevant chat. Enjoy.