The inspiration behind the title will become apparent during the conversation. Apart from being one of my Mates, Francis is also one of Australia’s most respected journalists, working in all mediums (TV, Radio, Newspapers, Online) and inhabiting spaces as diverse a politics, music, sport and industry. In this interesting chat, Francis and I talk about everything from echo chambers, keyboard warriors, meaningful conversation with people we don’t agree with and song-writing, to open-mindedness (is it possible?), how our thinking changes as we age and of course…. the pyjama story.