In this confronting and timely conversation, I sit down with Gillespo to unpack a landmark legal case that could change everything. For the first time, a jury has held tech giants like Meta Platforms Inc. and YouTube accountable - not for what's on their platforms, but for how they're designed. We explore the idea of "weaponised attention," the psychology behind infinite scroll, beauty filters, and algorithmic validation, and why developing brains don't stand a chance against billion-dollar systems engineered to hijack them. This isn't just about kids. It's about all of us. Are we using technology... or is it using us?