What if some of the physical benefits of exercise could be delivered in a capsule? It sounds like sci-fi, but two new scientific studies suggest we might be inching closer to that reality. In this fascinating episode, Tiff and I sit down with geneticist, author and science communicator Professor Bill Sullivan Jr. to unpack the growing field of exercise mimetics - therapies designed to replicate certain physiological effects of working out, without the sweat session. As you'd imagine, I have a few philosophical objections and questions but nonetheless, it's interesting research with vast potential, this was a fun chat with one of my favourites and no, the pill is not intended to become a 'replacement' (per se) but rather a potential option for some individuals with certain limitations and challenges. Enjoy.