It's fair to say that Exercise Physiologist and Change-ologist Unna Goldsworthy and I don't see eye to eye on everything, which is perfect because (1) that would make for a boring conversation and (2) if we did, we'd be in some kind of cognitive cult or philosophical echo chamber, and nobody wants that. This was a fun episode, talking about the mind stuff and emotional stuff that drive the practical, physical and behavioural stuff. Enjoy.