Well this claim (the one in the title) from Gillespo might set the metaphoric cat among the pigeons! This was a fun chat covering hidden sugars, crap breakfast cereals, why sugar is super addictive, athletes who gained massive weight post-career only to lose it and successfully return to competition (Mark Occhilupo, et.al), the link between giving up booze and sugar, David's forty kilo weight loss (OMG!), why you should avoid barbeque sauce and lots more. Enjoy.