For many people who didn't grow up with tech, the unavoidable and ever-increasing integration of Al, online everything, cashless transactions and virtual worlds is a great source of confusion, discomfort and anxiety. My eighty-five-year-old parents feel like they're living on Mars and the world is becoming alien to them. The idea of not being able to pay bills with cash or a cheque has caused my mum more than a few sleepless nights and considerable anxiety. And in other news... as always, this chat with Patrick and Tiff was of a conversational smorgasbord of bullsh*t, banter and a smattering of tech-talk. Enjoy.