For Michelle Lee, being the first woman in the world to row the Pacific Ocean solo, unassisted and without stopping, was her version of escaping the matrix. 15,000 kilometres, Mexico to Australia, 240 days, rowing for 12 hours a day, converting sea water into drinking water, technical challenges, physical and medical challenges, crazy weather, losing 19kgs, total isolation, eight months of mostly dehydrated food (6 meals a day and still couldn't keep up with her energy needs) and a whole new world of self-discovery. This was an awesome conversation.

#2160 Old and Awesome (Hopefully) - Bobby Cappuccio
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#2159 The Psychology of Cults - Harps
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#2158 Psychological Safety vs. Psychological Flexibility - Dr. Sam Casey
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