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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Media Host Exposes Bias

Published Sep 9, 2024, 8:00 AM

In this episode, Tom Jordan, a Michigan-based talk show host, joins Tudor to discuss media bias and suppression of free speech. They highlight the lack of critical thinking and intellectual stagnation caused by the media's promotion of a single narrative. Tom shares his firsthand experience of bias and pushback in the media industry, both at the national and state levels. They also discuss the media's role in suppressing information about Joe Biden's alleged corruption and the need for journalists to speak truth to power. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com 

Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I think this episode is going to be somewhat of a I guess, explosive episode, somewhat of a mind opening episode, because I've talked quite a bit about how biased the media is, but now we have someone from Michigan who experienced it first hand. Had Tom Jordan is with me. He is a Michigan based talk show host and he's launching a new show this month. It's called Tom Jordan Live. But he was one of the top radio hosts in Detroit at what we thought was a conservative station. And I have to say I went on the station multiple times while I was running, and I struggled a lot with many of the hosts, even though it was supposed to be conservative. The station is called WJR, and I applaud you Tom for coming on and talking about this because it's hard. And I think that when I was running, as I was going through some of the issues that I went through with the hosts there who were always trying to paint into a corner and say, oh, no, you're wrong because of this, and you're thinking, wait a minute, I thought this was supposed to be the open radio station, the non biased radio station, but you're here today to say you actually had some pushback even behind the scenes.

Yeah, and Tudor, first of all, thanks for having me on. And you've been very openly discussing this issue for quite some time and I have as well. And I don't want to represent like as if WJR is the only station or media out of that's like this. This is systemic throughout our society. And I think what people. I spoke to a gentleman the other day who asked me a question, this is I think three or four days ago, because is it true. Do you think that the media has some sort of bias to it? Because I'm kind of sensing that. I'm like, are you kidding? Yes, absolutely, maybe it goes back many years. I think it goes back to this whole issue of free speech and you know, the First Amendment, freedom of the press, and those kinds of issues. And I think if you do not have free speech, if you suppress speech any type of way, you're effectively granting more power to the maybe the political elites, the ones who happened to be empowered during that time. And I think if what it ends up doing is it causes kind of an intellectual stagnation with people in this country where critical thinking has gone out the window and you start accepting whatever is being told to you because it comes down to one single narrative that we're seeing in the media, and that's the accepted narrative. Where it used to be a whole world of different ideas and thoughts. We would argue those things out and the media was kind of the guard the guardian, I guess a free speech and that has changed or quite I would say it's been going on a long time, but it really reared its ugly head in twenty twenty, which I know you've witnessed it well. I think that's what inspired you to run for governor because you saw what was happening in our state, in the state of Michigan, and there are three critical things that happened that year. It was a residential election year. The media, including the outlet I worked at at the time, and most of my career was in the news media, we were absolutely suppressing the entire side for the most part because of the hatred towards Donald Trump, so reporters and producers and just would not give him or his side the time of day. Heavily and I think wrongfully fact checked. But at the same time, President Biden got a pass on all the allegations of corruption that were going on throughout his lifestyle, even some personal serious allegations against him personally, although that was buried.

Well, I mean you look at the laptop, you look at all those things. Yeah, that was all buried. But I think that most of us, or I think the general feeling in the country, even among Democrats, is that, Okay, well, the only time you had a government official going to somewhat of a media company was the situation that we saw with Twitter, with Facebook, where we know that the White House and and agencies associated with White House in the federal government, we're going to these social media outlets and saying, oh, you can't say this, you can't say this, You've got to stop these people from talking. But what you have indicated is that even on the state level, in a radio setting, at a radio station, you had elected officials going and saying, we don't like that you allowed this. We will punish you for this, and that punishment could just be w You're not going to have access to us anymore. And we don't push back card enough against that either, because you look at they keep putting up this graphic of something like Donald Trump's done thirty four interviews and Kamala Harris has done one. Well, this should be not This should be a situation where even the leftist media is saying, Okay, we're not going to give you kudos, We're not going to just hand out your talking points. You've got to actually come on here and talk yourself.

Yeah. And they're the party that says they're trying to protect democracy and have Kamala hair even get in the position sheason now she certainly didn't win a single vote where it was back in twenty twenty in that in that election when she ran for president, and certainly not now. She has never won a primary, and somehow she is the candidate for the Democratic Party. But the media is playing cover. If you just kind of I think rightfully clarified because she's done one interview and they're not outraged by it. Donald Trump, I'll give you an example of this is just every day Like so, the company I was working for at the time was CBS News, and CBS News is known as this, you know, gold standard of objectivity in intellectualism and journalism. They're nothing of the sort. I saw the interworkings of CBS News and then how it funneled down to our station in Detroit, a CBS News station, and we weren't doing journalism. So even today.

They explain what you mean by that.

Okay, So what in twenty twenty the news room was probably about ninety seven ninety eight percent probably registered Democrats, very liberal reporters. Now, so that's the same thing at the network level CBS News. So a lot of the information they would cover Donald Trump on a daily basis, a lot of the information they were reporting on was from a heavily democratic perspective, so when it came into our newsroom, I would try to reframe it to be more objective. There was so much pushback in that newsroom. In the news room it was a twenty four hours it was WWJ, CBS owned and operated for many, many years. There was so much pushback to covering both sides of a presidential electioneer. Okay, So there was that. Then there was COVID that came in and we were told specifically that we had to support not just in our personal lives, but publicly on the air the lockdowns that were occurring across the station, and of course Governor Gretcha Whimer's lockdowns in the state of Michigan. And you can understand maybe the fifteen days, you know, to flatten the curve kind of thing. But after we realized what was happening and we knew more about the virus at that time, that little kids were very unlikely to get not even you know, die from this, but to even get sick or to show symptoms. The most vulnerable population were the elderly in the state. Governor Gretchen Whitmer's policies allowed COVID patients to recover in nursing homes. And we weren't allot allowed to talk about that.

Well, and let's be honest about that, because it wasn't as though we didn't have any scientific data to go from, because they are, you know, talking about science, the Party of Science, all of that. Beloney. Brian Kemp of Georgia, the governor of Georgia opened a state after fifteen days. Then I will say, even at that time, Trump was like, oh, I don't know about this. But then you watch a state like Georgia, a a populated state. You have city urban centers there that are very populated you're using you're using public transit, those all of those things that we were concerned about. You're watching in real time. Georgia didn't have any more deaths than Michigan had. And then you started to see Texas open up, in Florida open up, in South Dakota open up, and you have scientific data right there. Kids are going back to school, they're not getting sick. We were not allowed to say that, not allowed to talk about that, not allowed to point to what was actually happening in life and say, wait a minute, these states are okay. They have figured out how to make sure that people can continue to make money, continued go to school, and yet also be safe.

Yes, So when I saw Gretchen Wimer making all these mandates, and I also played some sound soundbites from the National Institutes of Health early on, I think it was May of twenty twenty who was warning and said, I've spoken to every governor in the state. That would include Gretchen Wimer, that would include Gavin news and that said, if you do these lockdowns and they persist, the effects of these lockdowns on the mental health of kids, where the suicide rate was going through the roof directly related to these lockdowns and the quarantine, and the isolation that will persist, and the economic, i'm sorry, educational outcomes will persist for years after the quarantine is lifted. They all had this information, and they knew by a lot of epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists how this virus was going to work and who would be targeted. So they had this information that wasn't allowed in the public square. To be honest with you, when I realized what was happening, and then I see greshen Wermer protesting the twenty twenty riots in Detroit, arm in arm with people as we were as told to stay home and don't go out in public and stay six feet at least apart from everybody else. And there she is marching with hundreds of people. I thought, I said in my newsroom to the people that I said, I no longer I was giving her the benefit of death, that maybe she believed this said, I no longer believe that she thinks this virus is dangerous and deadly. So how could you not believe that? Look at her live right now on the screen. She is doing exactly what she says. If we do, we will be we will kill people if we do what she's doing right now. There's no way she believes it, and that's given her the benefit of the doubt, because if she does believe it, she's complicit in the murder of all these people. So at that point I realized we are we are in an industry right now that is refusing to acknowledge the truth or even challenge the status quo. I decided to leave the news business and get into something that I thought was going to be, you know, an open dialogue about these issues, which was talk radio. So up until twenty twenty one, I was a journalist. So the journalist ministry had completely betrayed not just me, but the entire you know, populist of the United States and really globally. If you look at it, and I.

Can see why you would say, okay, talk radio is the choice, because that's even what you hear from the TV media who say, oh, talk radio is so dangerous because it's conservative, it's so dangerous. But then you went to talk radio and you found out that it's even infiltrated talk radio.

Yes, I did, and I was surprised when I first got there. There were certain issues we couldn't talk about it. And you can guess which issues we were allowed to talk about at that point. It became vaccines, that they were all positive and any negative talk about vaccines was considered conspiracy theory. If you dare mention election fraud, that absolute conspiracy theory is all been adjudicated in the course, you can't touch it, and well it hasn't been adjudicated in the courts. They wouldn't allow the evidence to be presented. Nope, that's our position. So that was happening, but I still would broach those issues. But my time there was surprising to me because it was a lot of pushback that I was somehow too negative. They wanted more a positive approach, and I said, I'd like to, but I sure would like some support. When we're dealing with politicians who come on the program and they tell us something that is demonstrably false, we need to push back against that. So I was allowed for a while to do it. The advertising department don't like it. They didn't want me to talk about abortion at a time when the state was going I think considering the most extreme initiative regarding abortion in the history of the United States, which was top three, which does effectively allow abortion for all nine months of pregnancy, and it also would allow miners to get sex change surgeries without their parents' acknowledgment. All those things were being considered under the guise of freedom for you know, in parental rights. All this was a lie, and I would call it out and it was not very much welcomed amongst the upper management at that station, which again shocked me. All of that came to fruition. You know, that passed, and now these things are happening in the state, as we rightly called it back then, and so I became growing more and more frustrated about it. But recently, the last few months, I was specifically told specifically that we're going to change the way we do things. You're not going to share opinions through the majority of the broadcast. You're going to introduce a subject matter, You'll bring on the guests. You'll let the guests say whatever he or she wants to say about it. And then if this time, at the end of a segment, you can maybe discuss what you thought about the segment.

You can't push back on the guest.

Can't push back I did anything, do you think.

That's because Democrats were saying we won't come back, and they were afraid that they wouldn't be able to get guests anymore. And really, should we be allowing politicians to say, I won't do radio, I won't do interviews. I mean, I'm guessing, but I don't know.

I think there's three main reasons. I think one of them is just as you described. I think I know that politicians were calling our station and would not come on my program because I would ask those questions, or I was a conservative. I am admittedly a conservative, and there are a lot of people. I think it's important to be honest with where you stand on issues and to be okay with that, and to let the other person be honest. If they're a liberal, you're a liberal. This is why you believed, Kamala Harris that there should be ev mandates, even though now you don't think they should for some odd reason. Just be honest with where you stand, make your case, and let's have a healthy dialogue about those issues, and let at the end the listener of the viewer is going to decide who's telling the truth or who has the most expertise in that particular topic. But that's why you do this. This is the American way, but now it's no longer allowed to be discussed. So one of the reasons was because of the politicians I think putting their thumb on the scales making phone calls. There's intimidation not just in our outlet, but in the whole slew of news outlets around the country. But I can specifically name if I would, I'm not going to right now. But because it's the case with all of them, newsrooms are being called by heavy hitters within the far left progressive ideology camps, and that includes a Democratic Party that if you do this, we're not going to come on your show, We're not going to be as accessible to you. So I was specific be told we want to have continued access to these people.

Which you don't anyway, they don't give you access, no.

But even if they don't, that's on them, right.

Can you imagine a time when you're you have the politician who wants to get elected by the people saying I won't talk to the people unless you do what I say. How how is that the person you want to vote for?

It's not And you know, I think what we need to do as journalists who claim they're speaking truth to power is to truly speak truth to power and go on the air or write in your piece that so and so refuses to come on our program because we criticized her, or we allowed someone else on our program who criticized him or her. That's not something we pull back from. That is our job as journalists. And so that's gone by wayside. So now and talk radio news analysis and a public opinion when that's starting to be you know, and I'm not saying every station does this, but this one I just worked at is doing this. And they specifically told me that we no longer want to be considered a conservative talk radio station conservative and label. We're trying to shed that label that we've been tagged with, so we don't want to be considered that any longer. I said, what do you want us to do? Then? Straight news? Nope, not news, okay, not opinion. We want you just to basically, I think, be a bulletin board. So you just open up the airwaves and let people say stuff and then you never challenge them on it, and then you go, thank you for coming, best friend. I don't think that's what our job is. This certainly wasn't. My job certainly was not. And the reason why I believe this much the same as you do, Tutor, that the reason why I think is important is because all of these policy decisions affect every day Americans and if we don't address those issues, then those people, including ourselves, but everyone else is going to be harmed by them. Under the guys that this is good for unity in our society, just trust us hear if you hear from any other source other than your secretary state or your attorney general or you're a governor, and consider all of that disinformation. The only truth comes from us. Right.

Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We would be remiss if we didn't say this is really directed to one party. You can't push back on one party, but they're willing to push back on conservatives. They're willing to go after the conservatives. I mean, we had this experience on the radio station that you were on. We had an interview and I look back at it now and I just find it fascinating because I had come out very hard in the campaign against the Chinese battery factory that was coming to Michigan, having been in manufacturing, understanding the connection between Chinese manufacturing and the destruction of American manufacturing, but also understanding the relationship right now between the United States and China. All of those things dangerous. And we were talking about a maybe maybe twenty five or twenty three hundred jobs over a ten year period. We had gone through this before. With this, we have a sore fund in Michigan. They put in billions of dollars, They give it to big corporations under the promise of jobs, and then the Democrats come out and announced We've got thirty thousand. We just created thirty thousand jobs. Nobody ever corrects them and says, wait a minute, you're talking about you might have created thirty thousand jobs over the next ten years. Now, in this case, it was maybe twenty three hundred jobs. Then it went to I think it was like nineteen hundred, and then it went to fifteen hundred. And this is maybe this many jobs over ten years time. We were giving them almost a billion dollars three quarters of a billion dollars of tax breaks and taxpayer money to come here. They were associated, they were oh owned by the Chinese and the guy on your radio station, says one third owned. And how do you explain this to the people of Macosta County that you don't care about these jobs? And I kept pushing back and saying, you are talking about an adversary of the United States. We are taking taxpair money and giving it to them. Well you flash forward to now. The people of that county of Green Township, they fought against it. They believe that they have Goshen completely out of the county. And I'm like, he's telling me, I've gone there. They're excited about these jobs. They want these jobs. Well you know why, you know why initially they were excited about the jobs. Nobody explained that all of the legislators, the governor, and the person who's running for US Senate right now signed non disclosure agreements, So you didn't even know what was being made at the factory. You don't know the chemicals that are being used at the factory. Nobody knew at the time that they would be sucking seven hundred thousand gallons of water out of the watershed every single day. And then where would that water go once it's contaminating, because it's not like they're bottling it and sending it to people like Neslie. They are going to take that water out and run forever chemicals through that water, and then where does it go. This is our farmland, this is our water. This is where we were consuming water from the same area fifteen miles down the street. That company that they were so mad about years ago taking water is bottling water so that people across the nation and in other countries can drink the water. So how are we not going to call out the reality of the situation, And that, to me is the frustrating part about this media. The people of Macosta County didn't know because there was a non disclosure agreement signed, so they didn't even realize the danger of what was coming to their community.

It's sickening, And you're right to me, I've always thought, even in twenty twenty and all this talk about election interference, the media is to blame. If you want to talk about fraud, you know, you can wipe out all those other conversations about you know, signature fraud or you know what happened with the voting machines, and you can just say, Okay, if the media itself did its job, Joe Biden would not be president of the United States. There's not a chance because of what has been revealed and still being you know, the attempted, the attempted to suppress that information about what Joe Biden has been doing for maybe decades with these foreign adversaries, including China whom you just mentioned, Ukraine in Russia, and you go down.

The list personal business with these.

Business you know, at least twenty seven million dollars has come into the Biden family, a family with very little experience in those particular industries other than the fact they had a really good contact and that contact at the time was Vice President of the United States. They got access to him. So all of this has been suppressed, and yet Donald Trump gets impeached for a phone call to Loryda Maye Zelenski, the president of Ukraine. We're saying, hey, find out if Joe Biden, if what he did and when he was bragging about about firing that prosecutor, and then you'll get your billion dollars. Why not if that's true, and if it is, you might want to investigate it. Because of that, he got impeached when he was looking he wanted to look into the actual evidence of corruption that had existed for that. I guess this whole projectionism that the Democratic Party has now become known for.

That's what blows my mind about them being mad about the Supreme Court decision. I mean, president's having immunity for discussions like whether or not you have drones go out. And I mean, look at what Obama could be held accountable for. Do you want a president who has to pause and say, hey, am I going to go to prison because I decided to make a call that we're going to send drones into a war zone? Because Obama could have to worry about that. Joe Biden, gosh, he could have to worry about a lot. I guess he's not worried because the man is on his deathbed as it is, so maybe he just doesn't care. I mean, this is how short sighted the Democrat Party is because they just want to win and they don't have anybody calling. They actually have no fear because they don't have a media that's going to call them out. Meanwhile, the media not only does this, but they lie. It's not it's not that they protect Democrats. They also lie about Republicans and we've experienced this firsthand. I mean, just this past week, We've had to deal with this, and I question, what do you do when you have a media that picks up a lie and then they they push that lie, they push that lie about a candidate, and they help the Democrats. I mean, they did it to me multiple times. Like I said, they're still doing it to me. They did to me during the race saying this maloney about you know, this candidate says that she would she thinks that girls should be forced to have babies and all. I mean, they knew that that was an out and out lie that I never said that that exactly if they had been honest about Prop three and taking away the parental consent, they know that. What I was concerned about was the fact that we could have abusers and traffickers in this state that would never have to be held accountable because there was a protection in place in the state of Michigan that said parents have to know if a child under a certain age is coming in to get an abortion, because parents should know if their child was abused. They never reported on that. Honestly, I believe that candidates in the past have been told you have no choice. You're a public figure, you can't sue I think it's time for us to take it back legally and go after these places and say you can't just out and not lie about me. You can't say these things that are not true.

At the very least, they should be exposed for people understanding that they are not getting the truth. During your campaign, obviously we covered it. We had you on our show on WJR. We try to be very fair with you, Kevin Deeds and me. But I did listen to the other programs. I did watch the other outlets when it came to Tutor Dixon as this extremist, and I thought, no, she's actually a conservative, and that's the opposite of extremism. You're trying to conserve what are just primarily American values. And the way that it's mischaracterized and these issues are mischaracterized, for example, in abortion itself is just reproductive rights, Well, no, it's the opposite of reproduction. You're actually killing a baby in the world. I am a staunch supporter of the pro life movement because I do believe there's a human in that woman's body. And yes, men should have a right to speak up about this too. I've heard too many men say I'm a man, I shouldn't say anything. No, you're a man, so man talk about it and use them they should have a right to say something.

About right exactly. And they use these examples that they go, oh gosh, there's this extreme situation, and I think that there are extreme situations, and the problem with extreme situations in society as it is now is that you're not allowed to have a conversation about extreme conversations because it's not about it the extremes. For them, you don't have an abortion truck outside of the DNC because you're afraid that someone ended up getting raped in their bedroom. Like that. They're promoting this as a lifestyle, they're promoting this as a form of birth control. And that's where you have people in the Life Movement and her are saying, do you not understand what this actually is? This is abortion is not a form of birth control. But they lie and they say that's not what we're saying until it comes to the point where they see that they're winning. And then you've got people like I think it was Ashley Judd who went out and said women need to be able to space their children out and that's why abortion is so important. Okay, so you're admitting, yeah.

This is that's wherever it also admitted that, you know, this is good. Abortions are good for the economy because more women will be in financial planning. It's absurd. So that is the real reason behind all this.

Going rare anymore.

No. In fact, even I forget her name. She's a Democrat within the state legislature. She has at time voted at odds with Gretchen Wimer and the other Democrats because she believes in certain things. She has some values, and she voted against some of these bills that were coming through the legislature as a result of the constitutional amendment, which Drop three allowed. That takes away the sanitary requirements of an abortion clinic. It takes away and the informed consent issues, It takes away the twenty four hour waiting period. And she said, hold on a second, why are those things considered bad. Shouldn't whenever you have a procedure, and it is a surgical procedure, shouldn't you know all the risks that are involved. Shouldn't you know? But maybe potentially other options. Pro choice means you're presented different information. All of that has been stripped away, And she was concerned about it. But of course she had been censured before by her own party because she just decided to take druction of cor quin saved her life, and that was not a good democratic talking point to take hydroxychloroquin for COVID when you're about to die and end up reversing the symptoms, so they cens your here for.

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Was robur Ginsburg even admitted as much.

Exactly so they understood. But the bizarre thing was in Mississippi, they only had one clinic, abortion clinic, and they only ever performed abortions up to sixteen weeks, and their law was up to fifteen weeks unless there were fetal abnormality or a danger to the mother's health. So truly it was no change. They knew what they were doing. The Democrats overturned Roe v. Wade because they knew that they would have the political advantage. It has nothing to do with caring about women.

I agree with you, and you would know more than I do because you're a woman and I'm not. But I sure do know a lot of women, and I know a lot of women who are pro life. And this notion that somehow this is all to protect women discounts the millions and millions of women who completely disagree with these types of policies and the interventions from the government to allow and really promote not just another option, really promote abortion. They want that. And you touched on that. Being at the DNC there's a mobile abortion clinic. Come on in, you can get and done right now. As Kamala Harris is going to take a stage. Whatever is it's a promotion of that. And I think I spoke to a pro choice friend of mine the other day and I explain what happens when you walk into a planned parenthood clinic versus when you walk into a pregnancy resource center and the kind of care and compassion and options that are available in a pregnancy resource center to a woman who is struggling a very, very big time with an maybe an unplanned pregnancy, maybe it's a teenager and she's grieving this, and there's a lot of very compassionate people that will walk her through it and yes, encourage her to have the baby. But here's how we're going to help you. Know, we're going to provide your baby formula or diapers if you want to adopt the baby. We have all these people willing and a waiting to do that.

Wait or is that a choice? Is the getting a choice there?

Alyssi Slockin said that is dangerous to women.

It's crazy.

One thing they don't provide is the killing of a baby in that young teenager's womb and explaining the ramifications. I mean, how many women have had an abortion and are grieving still to this day, even if it was forty years ago. They don't talk about those issues. And I take it all back to the media of today, is this is basicly a dereliction of duty what we all signed up to do. I got into it because I love the objectivity. I love the various dialogue of all these consequential issues that affect everybody, I think in this country at least one of them does at some point. So let's get it all on the table there and let the chips fall where they may and help people decide what is the truth here through argumentation, through confrontation in a respectful manner. But disagreeing with somebody doesn't mean you hate them. You want to find out the truth. And that's what journalism, I think, used to be. Now it's nothing of the sort. There is a bunch of activists who are being trained in these JAY schools at various state universities around the country, and I've spoken to many of them who say they want to get into journalism because they want to change the world and they want to fight back against the systemic racism that exists in the United States of America. Like, well, that's not journalism, right, that's activism. You want to be a politician, that's what you want to do. What you're doing in this class for that purpose, you're kind of mismatching. But that's no longer the case because I'm I think the odd one out here in that particular journalism program.

I mean we watched during the campaign, we watched outlets that had historically been journalistic outlets changed overnight, become radicalized. And I don't say that lightly. These people are not journalists. They are radicalized against the Republican Party, and they are so blatantly open about it. They don't even try to hide it. If I say something, they'll twist it up and put it out there. Oh gosh, this she's that. And you know, at the end of the day, if you look at someone who values life, values family, you're probably going to get somebody who's going to look at what happened with this school shooting in Georgia and say enough is enough. We're going to actually sit down and say, what are we to do? How can we put some safeguards in place? Instead of just blaming the other side, let's come together and talk about implementing some policies that we can see how they affect this, if we can stop these things from happening. Being someone who loves life has joy about life, that should not be such a negative. But think about where we are today. So easy to say you're a demon if you believe that the life of someone matters, And I mean the life of someone no matter how old they are, if they are in the womb, or if they are sixteen years old, or they are fourteen years old at the state Fair, or they are eighteen years old at a block party in Detroit, or they're at a splash pad. I don't care who you are. I want to make sure that you have a great life and live life to the fullest. You're not worried about being shot or killed, or having somebody come into your school in the middle of the school day. You don't have to worry about those things. I don't hear that. I mean if life doesn't matter, it doesn't matter at any level.

You're a true conservative and you believe in the Bill of Rights, it spells out all those individual rights that individual people have in this country. It doesn't matter if it's a single person in power or a large group of massive people in power. No one, whether single or millions of people, has a right to strip you of your pursuit of happiness. And so we had this idea that democracy just means, you know, the more people vote, that's what gets dictated in this country. Well, no, fifty one percent of the people cannot infringe on the rights of forty nine percent of the people. If you're doing something that prohibits a single individual from exercising their freedom to pursue happiness, so long as they're not infringing on someone else's rights, then you're violating the Constitution. And right now that is happening enlarge mass in mass in the Democratic Party. If enough people agree with it, I'm sorry. You're in the minority now, So you have to do what we tell you. You have to do, regardless of what your conscience tells you. That is not democracy, maybe a pure democracy, but it's certainly not constitutional republic. And that's what our country has founded on. That's why the Constitution still matters. And that's what conservatives believe. In the original reading and the intent of the original authors of the Constitution, what did they believe about individuals in this country? And I was called the other day a fascists because I believe in this. I'm like, this is the opposite of fascism. It is the direct opposite of what communists want to do in this country very actively. It's the direct opposite of socialism, where the government ends up being your god who provides you everything that you need, including healthcare, including a basic universal income, including all these different things that the government wants to hand you. Money for childcare, money to go put a down payment on a house, So give you twenty five thousand dollars. No, no, no, that's not your role. Role is to find a way to earn that so I can buy my own house and truly have my own property. By the way, Woodrow Wilson, one of the original progressives, did not believe in property rights because I made government too inefficient. It was harder to get stuff done in the government if people had property rights. He didn't believe in the three branches of government, the separated I could.

Say that you can see that even in Harris she wants government to own property. And you have to look at this and say, this goes beyond people saying, you know, I want to protect healthcare and I want to protect this. What you have to peel back the layers of the onion and realize is that they're hiding your rights from you. They're going into our inner city schools and saying you can never achieve in this country. You do not have rights. People will remove your rights. You don't have. You're not equal, and we hear this all the time. We're not going to rest until women have the same rights as men, until minorities have the same rights as whites. And it's like you are being lied to about the fact that you don't have rights, and that allows them to control certain groups of people. And it makes me sick when I think about the fact that we are being told that we have no opportunity. Look at the DNC. You've got Michelle Obama saying, you know, there's no generational wealth for us, and you can't achieve this. Look at she has four homes, she was first Lady of the United States, her husband was the president. Don't tell me you cannot achieve in this country. Look at Oprah who comes out and she says, I've experienced racism, I've experienced sexism, and look at this. In this country, you can become Oprah. Oprah is like a name that people associate with the American dream, right, like Oprah's a word and of itself, She's become an adjective, you know, like Oprah describes the American dream. I mean the fact that they are telling people you don't have rights by showing them that we've actually used those rights to achieve the ultimate utopian dream in our own lives. It's asinine, but people believe it. And that's the frustration for me watching these things, I'm like, stop, let's stop telling kids you can't become something. Let's go into communities where they are struggling and show them exactly what they can become. You can do this.

That was the whole purpose. Why you know, Donald Trump and Tim Scott came into Detroit and developed these opportunities zones or primarily minority communities, basically African Americans in Detroit itself is like I think, the city of the ninety percent African American population, and they provide They wanted people to realize, Okay, you can far beyond what the government says they will give you on welfare whatever to help you get by. This is how you actually earn money. This is how you become wealthy. This is how generational wealth work. And you can take that money. You can work your whole life, make millions of dollars and then pass it along to your children and then your grandchildren. Kamina Harris comes in, and you're right to say this because she's a direct connection like Woodrow Wilson would be thrilled to know that his dreams are coming to fruition with a person like Kamala Harris, because she is a full blown socialist. She's denying it right now for a period of sixty more days or whatever it is, take her plus minus a couple days there until she gets in office, and she will implement the things she says she always supports. She will rip away private insurance she wants to do that. This is a socialist mindset and ideology that again, the government provides everything for you don't work on your own. And we've never seen this work. We've always seen in socialist countries the poor remains poor, and then everyone else joins them, and then the very top, you know, half a percent of the elite in power are the ones who become wealthy and they live luxurious lifestyles while they control everybody else. That is a socialist slash communist country, and that is what these policies will lead to if the media doesn't call her out for what it is. And I guess the other reason why I think this is happening is because I think the academic academia has taught all these new generation of journalists that really what freedom is is socialism. That their rights include the right to free healthcare insurance. They have a right to a universal basic income. They have a right to be you know, get their electricity bills paid for. They have a right to be given a job that is tack or funded. They have a right to free college tuition. All of that should be forgiven because it's my right to be educated. You weren't born with those rights. Those aren't like self evident when you came out of the womb. Those are things the government tells you they want to give you in order to keep themselves empower into essentially rule over your life.

Also, not the working class. These are people who have been at government funded universities. They are thinkers. They have never experienced it for themselves. They don't understand what that actually means, and they don't understand that human nature is not to be equal. Human nature is to do something different, to create, to get better, to advance, and to personally advance. And that's why we've had so much innovation in this country. And that mindset stifles innovation. It creates every like you said, everybody is no longer. It's not equally wealthy, it's equally poor, and it's redistribution of wealth and its government owns everything, and that's what we've tried to tell people, but they just don't listen. We could probably talk forever. Sarah has been giving me like, hey, you've gone way too long. Yes, exactly, wrap it up, Tutor. But it's been so I really have enjoyed having you on. It's been so interesting. So I want people to know that you have this new show. It's coming out on September sixteenth. It'll be weekdays from nine to ten. Where do they find it?

Yeah, so they can get all the information at Tom Jordanlive dot com and we'll be on all the major platforms. It's a podcast, but we'll be on just like you are. We're committed to continuing to expose on truths and real disinformation, committed to the truth, and we're committed to the betterment of individual people in this country, which ends up being a better society in total. So yeah, September sixteenth, nine am to ten am. If they don't catch a live, it'll be available to stream throughout the day as well, anywhere you find your podcast. That's what we will be good.

I love that because I think it's so important that people. I mean, I even see Chris Cuomo coming out now and he's like, hey, wait a minute. When I look at this reasonably, I'm seeing something different. And I kind of love that the people who have been the talkers their whole entire lives and been able to share the information and now they're suddenly going, oh wait, maybe this wasn't all the information. So I appreciate you, Tom Jordan, thank you for coming on today.

Tutor. Thank you so much. It's been an honor.

Appreciate it absolutely, and thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. You heard him say it. You can get us anywhere. You can go to iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts, just make sure you download it. Join us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Have a blessed day.