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The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Exposing the Empire: Lindsey Boylan on Andrew Cuomo’s Dark Legacy

Published Mar 17, 2025, 8:00 AM

In this episode, Lindsey Boylan discusses her experiences of sexual harassment while working for Andrew Cuomo, the former governor of New York. She highlights the systemic issues of power and abuse in politics, the role of media in shaping public perception, and the need for accountability within the Democratic Party. Boylan emphasizes the importance of supporting women who come forward and the challenges they face in a male-dominated political landscape. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com

 

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Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we have Lindsey Boylan with us. She is the first woman to publicly accuse New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo of sexual harassment. You might remember this is like the Emmy award winning governor, because why would you get an Emmy for talking about COVID and things that you do as a governor. But I think that that's important to mention because that just goes to show how much power he had. He had the entire Hollywood establishment behind him. He still does, and that's why it's important to have these conversations about powerful people that take advantage of their position and why that should be really disqualifying for future public office. I mean, this is a guy who had to step away because of what he had done, and yet here he is now. For those of you who don't know, Andrew Cuomo has announced that he is going to run for mayor of New York City, and I think that's very devastating to people who have been hurt by him. Before we bring Lindsay, I want to talk to you about my partners at Preborn. When a woman experiences an unplanned pregnancy, she often feels alone and afraid so many times, her first response is to seek out an abortion, but because of the generosity of listeners like you, that search may lead her to a Preborn Network clinic where she can choose life, and not just life for her baby, but for herself. Preborn offers God's love and compassion to hurting women and then provides a free ultrasound to introduce them to the life growing inside them. This combination brings the ultimate miracle of life to life, which is why Preborn sees on average, two hundred babies saved every day. When Page found out she was pregnant, she didn't feel she could afford a child, and the father threatened to make her have an abortion, But when her mom found out, she introduced her to a Preborn Network clinic. At the clinic, Page was given the support and resources she needed to help her choose life, and the father even started attending parenting classes with her. Now they are raising a beautifull sun together. Your tax deductable donation of twenty eight dollars sponsors one ultrasound. How many babies can you save? Please donate a gift today. Just dial pound two fifty and say the keyword baby. That's pound two fifty baby, or go to preborn dot com slash dixon d I xo N that's preborn dot com slash Dixon sponsored by Preborn. So I'm grateful to Lindsey for joining me today. Lindsay, welcome to the program.

Thank you so much for having me. I'm glad to be here.

It's you know, I think it's something that a lot of women deal with. I remember when Carly Fiorino was running for president and someone asked her about harassment, and she said, every woman who has been in business has experienced it. And I think a lot of people in the country went no, But I think it's true.

That is true. Yeah. I mean I worked in the public sector of private sector and you know, musical finance after business school. And I like to say, I don't like to say, but I say that we, each of us, each of us women knows sexual harassment. I have had some version of sexual harassment in every job I've had, but it was never as pervasive and had the entire system set up to be predatory towards the woman who worked for him as when I worked for Andrew Cuomo. So it was just of a magnitude that I can't even fully explain.

That to me is the scary thing. I think it's different. You know, I had experienced it in manufacturing, and I have said before I worked at a family company and one of the guys that I worked with on a business trip was very inappropriate, and my dad was the owner of the company. And I came back and I explained him, and they were friends. And at the time I was really kind of ticked because my dad's reaction was you're going to deal with you your whole life, so go in and deal with it. And I was like, wow, that's such a jerk thing. But it was. It actually empowered me in a way I would never have expected because because I did, I then faced him myself and went in and said, hey, this and this not okay, We're never going to do this again. And I was I was in kind of a power position because obviously my dad owned the company. But for women who are not, I mean, the political scene is a totally different scene when you have somebody because you don't have there's no boss to go to, you know.

No, no. And I will say I'm a democrat. I was working for probably the most powerful democrat at the time, not just in the state of New York, but in the country because of all these you know, Emmy awards and the plots that he'd received, and the self promotion he had had done during COVID And for as much as the Democratic Party likes to say that they support women, this was a great example to the contrary. And I was working for this really powerful man and doing I was not a junior person. Actually I was very senior. And I could be asked to lead the state's recovery work in Puerto Rico in any given moment, which is something I did, or I could be sexually dressed, and his entire senior staff predominantly of women, at least in his like you know, office work, participated in that. I like to say that I don't like to say, but I felt like, you know, when you have a snake and they eat mice, and you know, maybe kind of in a vicious way, someone hits the mouse against the tank to kind of disorient it so the snake can eat it. That is what it felt like working for Andrew Cuomo. And I think it's really important to say we cannot be partisan about this issue. You know, the bad guys in power are bad for all of us, and it doesn't matter if they're in your party or they're not. And I think that that is why it ultimately resonated, was because these are all these women. And by the way, I'm the old lady of the crew, I also have the most privilege of a platform to speak up. So there's lots of women much younger than myself who he's harassed continuously, even through the court system, requesting gynological records. Another victim of his, yes, a young victim, younger than I think two of his three daughters. At least, he sought dynological records from her simply because she accused him and provided significant evidence that he harassed her. And in another case, one of the women who came forward was a state trooper, a woman whose job it was to protect him with her life, and he sexually harassed her. So much for a guy who purports to be a law enforcement politician, especially right now he's trying to lean into that, what kind of law enforcement politicians sexually harasses a person whose job is protect him with her life. And it just it's so beyond. When the physical harassment stopped and he resigned and he for one day said he understood to a certain extent that he was in the wrong. He's proceeded to spend the next several years harassing all of us. Whether or not we're resuming him. I am not, because I don't want to have anything to deal with this gross man. He's proceeded to attack us all in court on the taxpayer's dime. And I think the state controller put out a figure this week saying between the sexual harassment cases, the faulty book deal on COVID, he spent sixty million dollars of state money defending himself, and none of us have that money to defend ourselves from him and his attacks of us, even though he's the one who abused us to begin with. So it's just it's beyond disgusting.

And I think, see, you're exposing something that I don't think that a lot of people understand. And this is why you've heard rumblings and you've probably heard this too, rumblings of this congressional slush fund that was used for years to cover up things like this, and that is not, I mean, and sadly, a bipartisan slush fund, because this is not a partisan issue. This is a scumbag issue, and it can be a scumbag in any party. And this goes from I mean, we've heard stories anywhere from kids, like some of the young pages that were abused by men and women in Congress, and these are powerful people. But again, using taxpayer money to get out of committing a crime, which to me is shocking that this is allowed. And then you told me something before we got on that is even more shocking to me. He's allowed to use he was allowed to use the taxpayer money. But now you're having to defend yourself against him, even though you're not even going after him.

Yeah, I'm not suing him. I don't want anything to do with that man. I don't want to interact with him ever. Again, I don't want anything from him, including what people often say of women who come forward is that we want money. Well, I've paid one point five million dollars personally legal fees for court cases that I'm not involved in. That I would be surprised if that man has one hundred dollars in his bank account. I don't want anything from him. I just want him to disappear. And I think I just want to point that out because so often women are smeared. Oh she wants money is as notion, and the woman who assuing him really just want him to be accountable and want the harm to stop. And somehow there's this public officer's law on the state books that enables him to continue to draw from state coffers and New York taxpayer money for these defenses. I think the leadership and the state senators put some legislation forth to stop that or kind of curb that. But as you point out with you know, even in Congress, it's an equal opportunity self protection situation, and that's what a lot of these pieces of legislation are to protect them. And even though I was a high ranking official, high enough certainly to benefit from taxpayer funded defense, because I was the one harassed, because I was the victim here, I can't avail myself of that. So it's just this, it's too extreme that I think people can't even really consciously understand, because you would never think that a man who abused so many people, women nursing home seniors indirectly with his policies, would be availing himself of sixty million dollars in taxpayer money. And in fact, the lead lawyer on this case for him, who's getting most of the money, is co hosting a fundraiser for his mayoral canoncymen.

You cannot make it up.

You cannot make it up. And she also appeared Rita Glavin. She appeared at his one of his announcements when he launched his campaign, and she answered the question about the money and the seeking gaynological records. His taxpayer funded attorney shows up at his campaign political campaign press conference and defends him as part of his campaign, and she goes on to basically smear the victim again that he sought gynological records for and listen, I would love if people felt compelled by seeing me and saying that's not right. It shouldn't have happened to her, and felt bad. But think about women. Predominantly, a majority of these women are significantly younger than I am. I'm the old lady of the group. He was being a predator with these young women, mostly in either one of their first jobs at a college in an executive assistant role, and he was taking advantage of that power structure. In my own way, it was really humiliating because I worked my whole career to get into these powerful rooms and to have someone treating me poorly like this. Sometimes I didn't even want to talk about it because it humiliated me in a way.

Like you say, you were senior staff, so you had worked to a point. It wasn't like you I mean, and not that it would have made any difference, but the point is you were at a level where you had obviously had the experience. This is your reputation on the line if you come out against someone, and I think that's why so often women and even other people in the office are afraid to speak out because this is a person who can hire you at will, They can get rid of you, they can destroy your career, and the career the political career is very much based on reputation and word of mouth and what I can do.

He originally he who did he use? He reached out to the Times of organization that was literally built out of sexual resk and the Mantal movement, and he tried to get them to sign He told them not to support me publicly, which they'd been considering doing when I came forward. And then he tried to get them, I believe, to sign on to a letter smearing me, which they didn't do, but ultimately their entire organization blew up because they did indirectly support him against someone who he victimized. And I just think it shows the hypocrisy even of my own party, And if it takes, if it takes highlighting the hypocrisy of my own party, I don't care. The whole point of being in these jobs is to help people, and instead what we have with people like Andrew Cuomo and probably many people you've dealt with in your career, as people who are in a self protection industry, not a help people industry.

That's such a great way of putting your thing because their boss is the taxpayer and they and the voter, and the voter doesn't always hear about this and the voter, and especially if you control the media, which, to be honest, folks in your party have a lot more control over the media than even on the Republican side. So if you control the narrative, you have all the power. And so I know, I read some of the articles where you've said you know, I even internally I say to myself, why did I stay as long as I did? But I think that for folks who read this, because I'm sure you've been asked that question, why didn't you just leave? For folks who are reading this, this is it sounds sounds like a big industry. It is a small industry that is big, a big job to have in a small industry, and for you to walk away that is incredibly damaging to your career. And this is the position women are put in. What do I do?

Yeah? I mean to say that, you know, if you want to be in politics, you're a Democrat, you live in New York. This was the Olympics. So for me to leave that, it's like saying I don't want to go to the Olympics, and I worked so hard. You listen, politicians, for the most part, unless they're doing something I'm not sure i'm a fan of, don't get paid a ton of money for it. So they do it because hopefully they believe in what they're doing, you know, And that is how I felt about it. I mean, now, I'm lucky to have a business husband who hates politics, not lucky to hate politics, but he's not in his field, which is good. So you know, we're okay, and I'm able to mount defense. But I didn't join this industry to benefit financially, I became. I spent a year years in government and going up that ladder because I believe in it, and I believe there is something that we need to do to help people every day. And we can disagree on the policy of that. But for a guy to make all the women who work for him uncomfortable, to create an entire toxic environment that feeds him as the predator, to use government funds this way to smear me when he was still the sitting governor with his taxpayer funded attorney on his campaign conference line for his re election for governor, to use the entire New York press Corps, particularly Albany Press corps. And you mentioned me, and I do think it's important. Is this whole thing that I'm sure you've seen in your career, this access journalism piece is really disgusting because I know if a certain person, particularly who's been based in Albany for most of their career in politics, is going to cover a story, then it's going to be at the very least watered down, and they're probably going to just cover press releases from this candidate, not because they love him, but because they know how the system works. And that is all part of this corruption. And I know this is a dangerous, difficult time for journalists, but I expect a lot better than some of what I'm seeing. And people who have covered this man, listen, the journalists know exactly who this man. He was clipped on one interview saying to a female journalist something to the effect of, do you like big sausage sandwiches? You know, just disgusting, you know, innuendo, sexual innuit. He's like a three year old, you know, like when he asked me to play strip book around the plane. But he's truly disgusting, and journalists know that. And I think one of the things that will always stand out in my mind that I did say in the deposition was I'll never forget being in the vehicle with him, and there's always like state troopers guarding him, and he's dreaming. A very well known journalist on the phone absolutely yelling at him, and I didn't know who it was. I'm like, gosh, that must be one of our staffers who he's yelling at. And it was a famous journalist. And I just said to me, And that was when I was still working for him. So if my colleagues aren't going to stand up for me. The state troopers are set up to protect him. All this system is attract and then journalists are afraid of him. How is anyone going to get this word out? So I didn't think there was a lot of beunter. The only reason I ended up doing saying something publicly was because I talked about it being a toxic environment. And then one of the young women much younger than myself, the one he saw chnological records for, reached out to me and DMed me and said, I don't know you, but thank you for saying something critical about this man he sexually harassed me. And her story mirrored mine. She kind of looks a little bit like me, disgustingly, he has a type. And I believed her. And then like the next day or so, you know, you've spent your current politics. He was being floated for a potential attorney general pick for you know, like a Biden administration, and I knew what that meant. That meant they were looking, they were putting the balloon out there to see if anyone was going to push back.

And so between that's the top law enforcement officer in this country.

Be the top law enforcement officer, over every woman I love, over over my daughter, over every woman you care about, And that just did me in. And I don't necessarily think I didn't really think about the implications, because if I did, maybe it Ouveren like, that's crazy, Lindsay.

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Do, That's what they do they for He forces is such a great symbol of who this man is. He forces himself on people. He forces himself on New Yorkers, he forces himself on the media. And even in the you know leaking that his people did about him running for mayor, he was saying it was this kind of community driven you know draft Andrew Cuomo, Well, Carl McCall and and everyone printed the first story where Carl McCall, who was the head of Sunny Polly, you know famously they had been you know, uh competing in an early run for governor years before that. Carl McCall drafted him. Now that's that's total BS, it's total theatrics. Carl McCall was appointed by Andrew Cuomo and firmly in his circle and doing what he was told for years. And anyone who works for and Cuomo knew that. And I just say that one example, because everything you see that he puts out there is entirely creation, usually a lie. I mean one thing that is a minor story that I like to share because it just shows what a sociopath he is is. He was doing some I don't know if it was an interview or a Q and A or a gaggle with the press after an event we had, and I was one of the staffers with him at this event, so it must have been like an economic development thing, which is what I oversaw for the state. And somehow he either said or he responded to a journalist where he said he told some story about him and him fishing and getting a bald eagle feather, and then he and interestingly enough rich as a party. We're talking about this afterwards. It was a totally made up story because it came out that you're not supposed to keep I think a bald eagle feather. He had completely made up the story, so it was rich as a party. This little troll who is working for him, now his job to try and find some way to walk back that bullshit, excuse my line, walk back that story entirely. And I'm just like, what kind of sociopath makes up a minor like a like an innocuous story about a bald eagle feather.

It was just so bizarre, and yeah, what he writes, that's the thing. It's like, if you're willing to make up a story about something that doesn't matter at all, that doesn't need to be made up, then what else are you willing to do? And I think that is where the American people have been so blinded by what actually happens in politics. I mean, even if you watch some of the shows behind the scenes, you get a glimpse into the deals and the and the obsession with power. And I think, you know you mentioned that, you imagine these people don't go into it for money. They go into it for the right reasons. Because there's not a lot of money. Why there actually is a lot of power.

I think he and people like him went into it because they want to be the center of the universe and they like power. Yes. To be clear, nothing that I've ever experienced of him with him around him ever makes me think he has any moral compass or any actual passion to help people. I truly think he is a sociopath. So I do think the majority of people go in it too help. I think he went into it because it was the family business, and it was a way for him to continue amassing power, and he knew how to do it by bullying people. Well.

And I know that you have bonded with Janistine over her own situation.

She is awesome, She's amazing.

That woman is such a fighter, and I think that people people overlook her concern because they go, oh, you know what, COVID was a tragedy. So many people ended up losing people. But I think we're in somewhat of a similar situation. I was here in Michigan, you guys. In New York, the governors both put COVID positive patients into nursing homes. Guomo even stopped the practice before Whitmer did. But I also lost my grandmother in.

The nursing know that. I'm sorry I didn't know that.

And I think back about it, and I think that we were complacent at the time because we were all, you know, panicked, and we didn't have the information. You know, we didn't have the information that the governors had. The other governors didn't do this, and Janesis complaint is valid because they had information we didn't have. And I look back at right before, when we were saying goodbye to my grandmother standing at the window of her nursing home, looking down the row and seeing other families standing at the windows, and I look back on that and I think these people had information that they And when you say he didn't care, I mean that's how that happens, you know, yes.

Yes, And I think now there is such a desire to not hold people like my governor at least in my case is the case I know very familiar with accountable because Democratic leaders think that it'll make them look bad, so there's so much selfishness here. I followed not just because I loved Janison, because I care about this tremendous wrong that happened to so many families like yours. But I wanted to see what he was going to do with this interview on the Select Committee on COVID, and I was surprised that the Democrats said anything critical that shows the extent to which he did things really wrong, you know, forcing the nursing homes to accept these people, lying about the numbers of debt related to nursing home, the nursing home policy, and lying about his awareness, his personal awareness of this policy, and lying about the extent to which he knew the number of differentials. I mean, as you may, you probably know, he's been referred for criminal prosecution by the House Select Committee. And I think it's just kind of funny because we are where we are in New York City to some extent, because there is a concern amongst several people that Eric Adams cannot be an effective independent leader. What you know, policy aside that he cannot make decisions for the city as a whole because he's more concerned about his own personal you know, potential issues with the you know, the Department of Justice and the like.

So how is that different exactly?

That's where what I really want to drive One of the things I really want to drive home is if you think that is a problem, you know, some Turkish flights, maybe some upgrades. I'm not demeaning these I'm not diminishing these things. What do you think is going to happen with a mayor of New York City who has been found by the Biden DOJ to have harassed thirteen women who worked for him and created a sexually toxic environment. A mayor of New York in andercuomo if he were to win, which I don't think he's going to because we're going to fight against it, but who has been referred for criminal prosecution and for lying to Congress. So what do you think is going to happen with a man who has all of these outstanding judicial issues at the federal level? And what do you think is going to happen there? You think you're going to have a more independent leader than the guy who has some problems with campaign finance.

Well, and these are all things that reflect on his leadership. Like he's a known quantity. And I think that's the thing that frustrates women. It's like when you have the receipts, this guy is a known quantity. He did this in office, and not only did he do things personally that were wrong, but professionally also that we're wrong. He handled situations inappropriately as governor. How could you possibly hand him another elected position? But there is power in that name, and that is the scary thing is how manipulative that can be on both sides, how manipulative these commercials are and the attacks on the other side. And yet the media is not coming out like you think they would and say, dude, come on, you've got it, You're done.

There's a little too much stenography right now. And I one thing that you know, people ask about poles. What do you make of the few poles that have been put out that put him ahead? Well, the best I can tell, aside from the recent Quinnipiac poll, they were all polls put out either by his campaign, people related to him, or another campaign that benefits from painting him as the big, bad wolf. To be, so I think that's totally irrelevant. The Quinnipiac piece. Basically, if someone has one hundred percent name recognition and all they have on the outset, when they're the only one of that name recognition, they only have thirty percent support, that's not a good number. And in a rank choice voting system, which is still new for us in New York, we're still trying to understand it. The objective that I have and that others like me have is one, make sure everyone does not rank him because he's a monster.

I was watching some of your videos and for those of us who are not, I was like, Okay, wait, how does this exactly work? So do you have to do you have to rank five because it can go to five or how does that work?

Yes? And and I try to explain it because this is only our second mayor election we've had ranked choice voting, and it is a little bit different. And I also think that polling, even if it were completely independent, doesn't factor in ranked choice voting at all. So at the primary level, in this case, the Democratic primary, because I'm a Democrat, we're talking man Andrew Cuomo. When people show up on the day of to vote, or they do early voting, they're going to be presented with five slots to fill for the mayor's position. And you know, we're telling everyone. I think, you know, we just had I just saw a letter come out this morning from over one hundred and fifty Democratic elected Leaders committee members in the city not to rank him. So that's the first objective, to not rank him as one of these five. But then also, you know, and I'll explain why people need to fill out all five of those slots in a ranked choice voting system, particularly because there are so any candidates and for those who are not in New York are not familiar. Eric Adams won the current mayor and one in the first ranked choice voting process in one of the very late rounds, and they he only won by a few thousands, so we almost had a different mayor. And when I say different rounds, they what is to simplify what happens is, let's say you put your five candidates on there, and your first candidate that you know is the lowest, gets the lowest votes in the first round of ranked choice vote counting, they're out. So then they go to all the people who put that person who's out on first on their ballot, and they see who their next first person is, and so all of these things accumulate, and we need people to fill out all five positions. So you know, some might say, lindsay I only like Brad or I only like Zelner or a different candidate. I'm only going to fill them out. It's really important that people fill out all five because if you don't, and let's say you're two candidates that you list, they're out immediately, your vote ends up not counting for mayor. You don't end up having to say for mayor. So it is a complicated system. I do also think that that is in no way reflected and polling right now. But it's going to be interesting, really hard to pull for. Yes, yeah, you can't. And I will tell you this. This letter that I mentioned to you was signed by you know, as I said, almost two hundred individual leaders political clubs in the city. That's a big deal to just have a letter entirely signed about an anti Cuomo. And I would say the top you know, the five candidates that I have thus far given public matching funds too, because I want someone to beat him. That I am willing to have as mayor. All of those five appear to be willing to coordinate with other campaigns, and they're all saying, don't rank and Puomo to a certain extent, and they're all saying, rank five people and put us first, and then you can put these other people first. So I would suspect as the primary goes on, you will not only continue to see this Antiquomo message, but a big part of that is going to be the candidates themselves sending anti Cuomo and saying rink all five. And you know, maybe you will see two candidates who are particularly aligned to do a lot more together and the like, and that's how he's going to be beat.

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It is a lot. I don't know it, you know, to a certain extent, unless it's a really wealthy like Bloomberg as individual, which we don't have. In this race. I really go by who will receive public matching funds. It's an eight to one match and I think this Thursday is the next filing deadline. So you know, as I said, I've donated to five candidates I have on my list that I think would be really would be good mayors and are viable in terms of the potential support. So that's what I'm focused on. But there are more than five. Wow.

Well, we are definitely going to be watching and we'll continue to spread the news because I obviously I want to support women and I think you, as I said, I've experienced this, and for those of you listening, if you don't know what it's like to be in an office like this, talk to women in your life. I promise you they've experienced it, and they will if they listen to this podcast, they'll go, yeah, that is that's the conundrum. And also it's frustrating to me because you know that this happens in I mean we hear about it in DC all the time. Yes, And I would also encourage people who are elected when they see other elected people call it out, because you have the power. It's different for someone outside of the staff to go, hey, knock it off. And that's meaningful to every woman out there that's trying to actually make some of her career. And it's so unfair to have your life's work robbed from you because someone in power has that ability.

And by the way, if it's a it's a notorious predator like Andrew Cuomo, everyone around him knows it. So yeah, everyone who was in a senior, you know, elected position in Albany, they all knew this. I mean, unfortunately, before I went to work for the state and the governor, and maybe this would be the last thing I share. It just very chilling. There's an organization called ABNEY, an Association for Better New York, and it brings together you know, business leaders, real estate leaders, political leaders in the city. And the woman who was the head of it at the time I knew and I was friendly with, and when I got the job, working my first job working for the state, not directly for him, she said, be careful, stay away from the governor. He has a women problem. And I just had to kill a story in the New York Times with him about him and women. And I didn't at the time focus on it because I wasn't going to go work for him directly. It ended up I was slowly broad into his you know, fish tank, and unfortunately all the bad things happen to me. But this is this man's abuse of women in particular, and his abuse in general is an open story in any powerful New York circle that you know, and that is what truly discussed me too. Well.

Thank you so much for coming out and sharing. I know this is hard and I appreciate it. Lindsay Boylan, thank you for coming on today.

Thank you, and I appreciate your time. We need to get the word out and I appreciate it.

I agree, I agree, and thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always, for this episode and others, go to Tutor disonpodcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and join us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Type of blessing