In this episode of The Callover, host Georgia Athanasellis is joined by Peter Shields, whose 40 years career in the criminal justice system includes service as a police officer, criminal defence solicitor and Deputy President of Parole Board Queensland.

Peter reflects on his journey through policing and law, the lessons he has learned from working on the frontline of the justice system, and the principles that have guided his approach to advocacy, decision-making and public service.

He also shares insights into the role of parole, community safety, rehabilitation, and the importance of protecting your wellbeing when working with confronting material.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

In this episode of The Callover, host Georgia Athanasellis is joined by Peter Shields, whose 40 years career in the criminal justice system includes service as a police officer, criminal defence solicitor and Deputy President of Parole Board Queensland.
Peter reflects on his journey through policing and law, the lessons he has learned from working on the frontline of the justice system, and the principles that have guided his approach to advocacy, decision-making and public service.
He also shares insights into the role of parole, community safety, rehabilitation, and the importance of protecting your wellbeing when working with confronting material.
To find Georgia: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

Lessons from the Frontline: Law, Policing and Parole with Peter Shields

Artificial Intelligence is rapidly reshaping the legal profession, creating new opportunities while raising ethical, practical and professional challenges.

In this episode of The Callover, host Georgia Athanasellis is joined by Chief Justice Helen Bowskill, Nicola Blade and Andrew Shute.

Drawing on their experience across the judiciary, legal practice and Queensland Law Society AI-focused advisory groups, the panel explores the impact of AI on legal education, practice, and the courts.

Their conversation offers valuable insights into how the profession can harness the benefits of AI while maintaining accuracy, integrity and public confidence in the administration of justice.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

Artificial Intelligence is rapidly reshaping the legal profession, creating new opportunities while raising ethical, practical and professional challenges.
In this episode of&nbsp;The Callover, host Georgia Athanasellis is joined by Chief Justice Helen Bowskill, Nicola Blade and Andrew Shute.
Drawing on their experience across the judiciary, legal practice and Queensland Law Society AI-focused advisory groups, the panel explores the impact of AI on legal education, practice, and the courts.
Their conversation offers valuable insights into how the profession can harness the benefits of AI while maintaining accuracy, integrity and public confidence in the administration of justice.
To find Georgia: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

Law in the age of AI, with Chief Justice Helen Bowskill, Nicola Blade and Andrew Shute

Practising law in one of Queensland’s most remote communities brings unique challenges and rewards.

In this episode of The Callover, host Georgia Athanasellis is joined by Louise Prychidczuk, a solicitor who has spent the past 16 years in Weipa, at times as the town’s only private practitioner.

Louise reflects on her journey to far north Queensland, the wide-ranging nature of her practice, and staying connected to the profession while serving a close-knit community. She also shares insights from her broader contributions across health, mental health and tribunal roles.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

Practising law in one of Queensland&rsquo;s most remote communities brings unique challenges and rewards.
In this episode of&nbsp;The Callover, host Georgia Athanasellis is joined by Louise Prychidczuk, a solicitor who has spent the past 16 years in Weipa, at times as the town&rsquo;s only private practitioner.
Louise reflects on her journey to far north Queensland, the wide-ranging nature of her practice, and staying connected to the profession while serving a close-knit community. She also shares insights from her broader contributions across health, mental health and tribunal roles.
To find Georgia: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

Where Community Meets law: Louise Prychidczuk on Practising in Weipa

On this episode of The Callover, we are joined by acclaimed Australian writer Helen Garner. Known for her unflinching observations of human behaviour, her works Joe Cinque’s Consolation and This House of Grief are powerful accounts drawn from the courtroom.

Garner has also been asked to participate in workshops, helping judges refine their writing to improve clarity and accessibility.

In this conversation, she reflects on her fascination with the legal system, her observations from many hours spent in court rooms, and how storytelling, precision and clarity shape legal practice.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

On this episode of The Callover, we are joined by acclaimed Australian writer Helen Garner. Known for her unflinching observations of human behaviour, her works Joe Cinque&rsquo;s Consolation and This House of Grief are powerful accounts drawn from the courtroom.
Garner has also been asked to participate in workshops, helping judges refine their writing to improve clarity and accessibility.
In this conversation, she reflects on her fascination with the legal system, her observations from many hours spent in court rooms, and how storytelling, precision and clarity shape legal practice.
To find Georgia: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

Helen Garner: Where Law Meets Story

One of the most high-profile unlawful termination cases in recent years, Lattouf v Australian Broadcasting Corporation (No 2), thrust employment law into the national spotlight.

In this episode of The Callover, host Georgia Athanasellis is joined by Shannon Chapman, a Partner practising in employment, industrial relations and safety at Lander & Rogers, to unpack the decision and its wider implications.

With nearly two decades of experience, Shannon explains the background to the case, the Court’s reasoning, and what the decision means for both employees and employers, when it comes to political opinion, social media use, and conduct inside and outside of the workplace.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

One of the most high-profile unlawful termination cases in recent years, Lattouf v Australian Broadcasting Corporation (No 2), thrust employment law into the national spotlight.
In this episode of&nbsp;The Callover, host Georgia Athanasellis is joined by Shannon Chapman, a Partner practising in employment, industrial relations and safety at Lander &amp; Rogers, to unpack the decision and its wider implications.
With nearly two decades of experience, Shannon explains the background to the case, the Court&rsquo;s reasoning, and what the decision means for both employees and employers, when it comes to political opinion, social media use, and conduct inside and outside of the workplace.
To find Georgia: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

Lattouf v ABC: Shannon Chapman discusses Unlawful Termination, Political Opinion and the Modern Workplace 

Interpreters play a critical role in ensuring meaningful access to justice for people who speak languages other than English.

In the latest episode of The Callover, Brisbane-based court interpreter and forensic translator Carl Gene Fordham sat down with host Georgia Athanasellis to talk about the realities of interpreting in legal settings.

Their discussion shed light on the often-unseen role and explores when and how lawyers should engage interpreters, the practical realities of working with clients with limited English, and the challenges that can affect accuracy and fairness in legal proceedings.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

Interpreters play a critical role in ensuring meaningful access to justice for people who speak languages other than English.
In the latest episode of&nbsp;The Callover, Brisbane-based court interpreter and forensic translator Carl Gene Fordham sat down with host Georgia Athanasellis to talk about the realities of interpreting in legal settings.
Their discussion shed light on the often-unseen role and explores when and how lawyers should engage interpreters, the practical realities of working with clients with limited English, and the challenges that can affect accuracy and fairness in legal proceedings.
To find Georgia: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

The Language of Justice: Carl Gene Fordham on Interpretation, Fairness and the Courts

The Callover returns in 2026 with Terry O’Gorman, one of Queensland’s most persistent defenders of civil liberties.
 
As a young law student, Terry witnessed a confronting police crackdown during a protest in the Bjelke Petersen years. It set him on a path that would span five decades in criminal law and public advocacy.
 
In this episode, he talks through some of the moments that shaped his career, the lessons learned from fighting for his clients’ rights, and why he’s still speaking out.

Although retired from private practice, Terry remains deeply engaged in advocating for aspects of the law and its application that require improvement, like disclosure obligations in criminal proceedings.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

The Callover returns in 2026 with Terry O&rsquo;Gorman, one of Queensland&rsquo;s most persistent defenders of civil liberties. &nbsp; As a young law student, Terry witnessed a confronting police crackdown during a protest in the Bjelke Petersen years. It set him on a path that would span five decades in criminal law and public advocacy. &nbsp; In this episode, he talks through some of the moments that shaped his career, the lessons learned from fighting for his clients&rsquo; rights, and why he&rsquo;s still speaking out.
Although retired from private practice, Terry remains deeply engaged in advocating for aspects of the law and its application that require improvement, like disclosure obligations in criminal proceedings.
To find Georgia: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

Holding Power to Account: Terry O’Gorman on Rights, Reform and the Law

The Honourable Michael Kirby AC CMG returns to The Callover for a deeper dive into his remarkable career.

From his “curtain call” case to his memorable work at the United Nations, Justice Kirby reflects on the power of multidisciplinary approaches, the role of alternative dispute resolution, and how technology continues to reshape legal practice.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

The Honourable Michael Kirby AC CMG returns to The Callover for a deeper dive into his remarkable career.
From his &ldquo;curtain call&rdquo; case to his memorable work at the United Nations, Justice Kirby reflects on the power of multidisciplinary approaches, the role of alternative dispute resolution, and how technology continues to reshape legal practice.
To find Georgia: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

Inside the Law and Change with the Honourable Michael Kirby AC CMG

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On this episode of The Callover, we speak with Judge Dženita Balić of the Queensland District Court about her extraordinary journey from refugee to the bench.

After fleeing the Bosnian War and arriving in Australia as a teenager, Judge Balić learned English as her third language, graduated with a Bachelor of Laws in 2005, and the next 17 years at the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions, where she rose to the position of Principal Crown Prosecutor before being appointed as a Magistrate in 2022. In 2024, her Honour was appointed to the District Court of Queensland.

We discuss her career in criminal law, the qualities that make a great advocate, and why diversity and inclusion are vital for access to justice.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

On this episode of The Callover, we speak with Judge Dženita Balić of the Queensland District Court about her extraordinary journey from refugee to the bench.
After fleeing the Bosnian War and arriving in Australia as a teenager, Judge Balić learned English as her third language, graduated with a Bachelor of Laws in 2005, and the next 17 years at the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions, where she rose to the position of Principal Crown Prosecutor before being appointed as a Magistrate in 2022. In 2024, her Honour was appointed to the District Court of Queensland.
We discuss her career in criminal law, the qualities that make a great advocate, and why diversity and inclusion are vital for access to justice.
To find Georgia: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

From refugee to the District Court: a conversation with Judge Dženita Balić

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On this episode of The Callover, we are joined by leading wills and estates expert Dr John de Groot AM to discuss the importance of succession law, not only for our clients, but also for ourselves.

John has led a distinguished career in law spanning more than 35 years, during which he has authored textbooks and looseleaf publications, and lectured at the University of Queensland. In 2024, he was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia in recognition of his significant service to law, tertiary education, and the community.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

On this episode of The Callover, we are joined by leading wills and estates expert Dr John de Groot AM to discuss the importance of succession law, not only for our clients, but also for ourselves.
John has led a distinguished career in law spanning more than 35 years, during which he has authored textbooks and looseleaf publications, and lectured at the University of Queensland. In 2024, he was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia in recognition of his significant service to law, tertiary education, and the community.
To find Georgia:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

Succession law with Dr John de Groot AM 

The Callover is a Queensland Law Society podcast created by young lawyers, for young lawyers. The QLS Future Leaders Committee is dedicated to inspiring a generation of connected, capable and healthy young lawyers.  Join us, as we invite guests to share their experiences in the law, unpack issues relevant to young lawyers and gain some insights into the future of lawyering.

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