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On this episode of The Callover, we are joined by leading wills and estates expert Dr John de Groot AM to discuss the importance of succession law, not only for our clients, but also for ourselves.

John has led a distinguished career in law spanning more than 35 years, during which he has authored textbooks and looseleaf publications, and lectured at the University of Queensland. In 2024, he was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia in recognition of his significant service to law, tertiary education, and the community.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

On this episode of The Callover, we are joined by leading wills and estates expert Dr John de Groot AM to discuss the importance of succession law, not only for our clients, but also for ourselves.
John has led a distinguished career in law spanning more than 35 years, during which he has authored textbooks and looseleaf publications, and lectured at the University of Queensland. In 2024, he was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia in recognition of his significant service to law, tertiary education, and the community.
To find Georgia:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

The Callover is a Queensland Law Society podcast created by young lawyers, for young lawyers. The QLS Future Leaders Committee is dedicated to inspiring a generation of connected, capable and healthy young lawyers.  Join us, as we invite guests to share their experiences in the law, unpack issues relevant to young lawyers and gain some insights into the future of lawyering.

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On this episode of The Callover, we speak with Judge Dženita Balić of the Queensland District Court about her extraordinary journey from refugee to the bench.

After fleeing the Bosnian War and arriving in Australia as a teenager, Judge Balić learned English as her third language, graduated with a Bachelor of Laws in 2005, and the next 17 years at the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions, where she rose to the position of Principal Crown Prosecutor before being appointed as a Magistrate in 2022. In 2024, her Honour was appointed to the District Court of Queensland.

We discuss her career in criminal law, the qualities that make a great advocate, and why diversity and inclusion are vital for access to justice.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

On this episode of The Callover, we speak with Judge Dženita Balić of the Queensland District Court about her extraordinary journey from refugee to the bench.
After fleeing the Bosnian War and arriving in Australia as a teenager, Judge Balić learned English as her third language, graduated with a Bachelor of Laws in 2005, and the next 17 years at the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions, where she rose to the position of Principal Crown Prosecutor before being appointed as a Magistrate in 2022. In 2024, her Honour was appointed to the District Court of Queensland.
We discuss her career in criminal law, the qualities that make a great advocate, and why diversity and inclusion are vital for access to justice.
To find Georgia: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

From refugee to the District Court: a conversation with Judge Dženita Balić

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On this episode of The Callover, we speak with outgoing Queensland Human Rights Commissioner Scott McDougall. With a career spanning more than 30 years in community legal advocacy, public policy and social justice, Scott has been a strong and consistent voice for human rights in Queensland.

As his term as Commissioner comes to an end this month, we reflect on his journey through the law, his time at the Commission, and what lies ahead for human rights in the state.

Transcript to come. 

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

On this episode of The Callover, we speak with outgoing Queensland Human Rights Commissioner Scott McDougall. With a career spanning more than 30 years in community legal advocacy, public policy and social justice, Scott has been a strong and consistent voice for human rights in Queensland.
As his term as Commissioner comes to an end this month, we reflect on his journey through the law, his time at the Commission, and what lies ahead for human rights in the state.
Transcript to come.&nbsp;
To find Georgia:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

A Life in Advocacy with Scott McDougall

To mark R U OK? Day, The Callover presents a special reprise of an episode from our first season, featuring two guests who share their insights on managing mental health to sustain a long and fulfilling legal career.

First, you’ll hear from Professor David Heilpern, a former magistrate now working in academia, who will also be a guest panellist at QLS’s upcoming Mental Health Breakfast on 9 October 2025.

Professor Heilpern inspired many in the profession to engage in honest conversations about mental health after his powerful 2017 lecture, “Lifting the Judicial Veil – Vicarious Trauma, PTSD and the Judiciary.”

Then, we hear from Melissa Sadlo, a psychologist who discusses when and how to ask a friend, colleague, or even yourself: R U OK?

Transcript to come.

To find Georgia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/

To mark R U OK? Day, The Callover presents a special reprise of an episode from our first season, featuring two guests who share their insights on managing mental health to sustain a long and fulfilling legal career.
First, you&rsquo;ll hear from Professor David Heilpern, a former magistrate now working in academia, who will also be a guest panellist at QLS&rsquo;s upcoming <a href="https://qlsevents.eventsair.com/mental-health-breakfast-2025/registration-page/Site/Register">Mental Health Breakfast</a> on 9 October 2025.
Professor Heilpern inspired many in the profession to engage in honest conversations about mental health after his powerful 2017 lecture, &ldquo;Lifting the Judicial Veil &ndash; Vicarious Trauma, PTSD and the Judiciary.&rdquo;
Then, we hear from Melissa Sadlo, a psychologist who discusses when and how to ask a friend, colleague, or even yourself: R U OK?
Transcript to come.
To find Georgia:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgia-athanasellis-21713715a/</a>

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