You are now in the backcourt for episode seven, a Brooklyn Nets podcast presented by Ticketmaster and brought to you by me Lucas Kaplan, writer for NETS Daily, maker I Guess of NETS Film focused Videos, and my co host Sarah Coustack, the color commentator for Yes Network, who knows more about the Nets than her. And it is again Week seven. The Nets are back in Brooklyn after a hectic schedule. Sarah, how we doing.

You are now in the backcourt for episode seven, a Brooklyn Nets podcast presented by Ticketmaster and brought to you by me Lucas Kaplan, writer for NETS Daily, maker I Guess of NETS Film focused Videos, and my co host Sarah Coustack, the color commentator for Yes Network, who knows more about the Nets than her. And it is again Week seven. The Nets are back in Brooklyn after a hectic schedule. Sarah, how we doing.

We're doing good. We're doing good. It has been a world win here, Lucas, but we're ready to rock and obviously dig into some of the things we saw this last.

We're doing good. We're doing good. It has been a world win here, Lucas, but we're ready to rock and obviously dig into some of the things we saw this last.

Week and this last week that includes a thrilling and to their West Coast swing, a victory over the full strength just about Phoenix Suns. Forever it will be known as the Tyres Martin game nearly doubled his career point total with a thirty piece. Then they come back home to Brooklyn, lose both games of a mini series against the Orlando Magic, and just last night or recording Tuesday, on Monday night, went to Chicago another back to back and lost that one. It as Sarah said, as I mentioned, really the takeaway at least one of them is boy, This NBA schedule is tough, and you don't want to use it as an excuse, but just watching the game, it felt like the long travel, the so many games played in a row, the injuries, it kind of all caught up to the Nets last night. And there is a lot of basketball to talk about. But as for the results, it felt like that was one of, if not the driving force, at least in my opinion.

Week and this last week that includes a thrilling and to their West Coast swing, a victory over the full strength just about Phoenix Suns. Forever it will be known as the Tyres Martin game nearly doubled his career point total with a thirty piece. Then they come back home to Brooklyn, lose both games of a mini series against the Orlando Magic, and just last night or recording Tuesday, on Monday night, went to Chicago another back to back and lost that one. It as Sarah said, as I mentioned, really the takeaway at least one of them is boy, This NBA schedule is tough, and you don't want to use it as an excuse, but just watching the game, it felt like the long travel, the so many games played in a row, the injuries, it kind of all caught up to the Nets last night. And there is a lot of basketball to talk about. But as for the results, it felt like that was one of, if not the driving force, at least in my opinion.

I thought you could see it, and I know Jordi Fernandez and the players, you know, we'll use that as an excuse after speaking postgame, but Lucas there was that FiOS has been a compacted schedule. It's been a challenging one. I know now that we head into this next week in the with the Cup games that will be scheduled, there will be some breathing rooms some days in between. But adding the fact that the amount of bodies you're missing in the style of play the Jordy Fernandez and their group want to play, it was a challenge and I think you saw that kind of manifest itself as the Bulls game continued on throughout the course of that second half.

I thought you could see it, and I know Jordi Fernandez and the players, you know, we'll use that as an excuse after speaking postgame, but Lucas there was that FiOS has been a compacted schedule. It's been a challenging one. I know now that we head into this next week in the with the Cup games that will be scheduled, there will be some breathing rooms some days in between. But adding the fact that the amount of bodies you're missing in the style of play the Jordy Fernandez and their group want to play, it was a challenge and I think you saw that kind of manifest itself as the Bulls game continued on throughout the course of that second half.

Definitely, and not only are the Nets playing the schedule and every team has these stretches, and that's, you know, a key reason you can't use it as an excuse. They're also doing it with about half the rotation, half the roster missing. Now there has been some good news. There's day Ron Sharp's return, which I'm sure we will get into. But since the last time we spoke, Cam Thomas has been ruled out for a couple of weeks with a hamstring strain. Cam Johnson rolled an ankle, actually rolled an ankle twice since we last spoke, and he is day to day. He missed. He's only missed one game, so hopefully that's good. Ben Simmons missed last night's game. Nick Claxton has kind of been in and out of lineup. Dorian Finney Smith has been out with an ankle injury. You go on and on. Noah Clowney rolled an ankle, and a key theme there is that that's just about every big man the Nets have, including Dayron Sharp, who just made his season return. So not only are they tired, but they're also small, at least compared to some other teams, especially the Magic. And it just felt like a compounding of almost physically exhaustive things. But we will get into some basketball, but first, just how did you see that kind of manifest I guess the combination of being small and maybe at the end of their rope in terms of energy.

Definitely, and not only are the Nets playing the schedule and every team has these stretches, and that's, you know, a key reason you can't use it as an excuse. They're also doing it with about half the rotation, half the roster missing. Now there has been some good news. There's day Ron Sharp's return, which I'm sure we will get into. But since the last time we spoke, Cam Thomas has been ruled out for a couple of weeks with a hamstring strain. Cam Johnson rolled an ankle, actually rolled an ankle twice since we last spoke, and he is day to day. He missed. He's only missed one game, so hopefully that's good. Ben Simmons missed last night's game. Nick Claxton has kind of been in and out of lineup. Dorian Finney Smith has been out with an ankle injury. You go on and on. Noah Clowney rolled an ankle, and a key theme there is that that's just about every big man the Nets have, including Dayron Sharp, who just made his season return. So not only are they tired, but they're also small, at least compared to some other teams, especially the Magic. And it just felt like a compounding of almost physically exhaustive things. But we will get into some basketball, but first, just how did you see that kind of manifest I guess the combination of being small and maybe at the end of their rope in terms of energy.

Yeah, I think you saw it and you said it, especially against Orlando, and we can go through each of it. But I think you saw in the matchups of what they were trying to do to create an advantage for themselves and at some point just ran out a little bit of those type of optionality with the lineup, with the rotation. And I still, again, we can get into each specific matchup. I still give them a ton of credit because I think you saw players which I know we will discuss, get an opportunity, get some run like a Drek Whitehead. You've already mentioned Tyree Martin, spots with Shake Milton. The list will go on of those who haven't had a lot of time and when given the opportunity, they performed well. I thought you still saw the same tent style of play that they want to play at. It just can be challenging when you know you're missing half your roster. It was the eighth straight game. That's Chicago game, not only the eighth straight game of a different starting lineup, but the sixth unique starting lineup. So these are also players that had not spent a ton of time on the floor together. So for all those reasons, again, I think you really need to break down the ways in which you're evaluating it, aside from just the steps or the wins and losses.

Yeah, I think you saw it and you said it, especially against Orlando, and we can go through each of it. But I think you saw in the matchups of what they were trying to do to create an advantage for themselves and at some point just ran out a little bit of those type of optionality with the lineup, with the rotation. And I still, again, we can get into each specific matchup. I still give them a ton of credit because I think you saw players which I know we will discuss, get an opportunity, get some run like a Drek Whitehead. You've already mentioned Tyree Martin, spots with Shake Milton. The list will go on of those who haven't had a lot of time and when given the opportunity, they performed well. I thought you still saw the same tent style of play that they want to play at. It just can be challenging when you know you're missing half your roster. It was the eighth straight game. That's Chicago game, not only the eighth straight game of a different starting lineup, but the sixth unique starting lineup. So these are also players that had not spent a ton of time on the floor together. So for all those reasons, again, I think you really need to break down the ways in which you're evaluating it, aside from just the steps or the wins and losses.

Definitely, and you know, instill in a new culture. A rookie head coach. We kind of knew that's what this season was going to be about. Sean Marks again, to go back to his introductory season opening press conference, talked about finding the next Nets who's going to be here long term and that obviously, you know, had new head coach Jordi Fernandez has some input in that, and so you know, we're really looking at the big picture. Great time to start a podcast cover this team's multi year growth, which I'm excited about. And as you mentioned, you see the way they are playing did not really drop off, even though the energy, the legs, the size, whatever you want to call it. And again we talked about Jordi Fernandez a lot last episode, but his competitiveness still stands out to me, and it feels like that trickles down throughout the roster starting again with that Phoenix game. Just the camaraderie, the bridge, you know, kind of a short form documentary series put out by Brooklyn's content team. You just saw them go crazy for Tyree Martin's game and the competitiveness he and the other deep bench guys brought to the floor. You see Jordi Fernandez calling timeouts to challenge plays down twenty five with a couple minutes left. You see him the competitive fire come out of him. And some of those Orlando games, and there's even stuff like, you know, there's a play a couple of weeks ago, I forget which game, but the Nets have fifty five seconds left in the third quarter and they have the ball and they bleed the clock out so as to not let the other team get a two for one. And it's just the attention and detail, the competitiveness that really sticks out for this team, and it's why, in my opinion, this team has been fun to watch, fun to cover, even when they're winning and they're doing great things like on the West Coast trip, or if they lose three in a row like they just have.

Definitely, and you know, instill in a new culture. A rookie head coach. We kind of knew that's what this season was going to be about. Sean Marks again, to go back to his introductory season opening press conference, talked about finding the next Nets who's going to be here long term and that obviously, you know, had new head coach Jordi Fernandez has some input in that, and so you know, we're really looking at the big picture. Great time to start a podcast cover this team's multi year growth, which I'm excited about. And as you mentioned, you see the way they are playing did not really drop off, even though the energy, the legs, the size, whatever you want to call it. And again we talked about Jordi Fernandez a lot last episode, but his competitiveness still stands out to me, and it feels like that trickles down throughout the roster starting again with that Phoenix game. Just the camaraderie, the bridge, you know, kind of a short form documentary series put out by Brooklyn's content team. You just saw them go crazy for Tyree Martin's game and the competitiveness he and the other deep bench guys brought to the floor. You see Jordi Fernandez calling timeouts to challenge plays down twenty five with a couple minutes left. You see him the competitive fire come out of him. And some of those Orlando games, and there's even stuff like, you know, there's a play a couple of weeks ago, I forget which game, but the Nets have fifty five seconds left in the third quarter and they have the ball and they bleed the clock out so as to not let the other team get a two for one. And it's just the attention and detail, the competitiveness that really sticks out for this team, and it's why, in my opinion, this team has been fun to watch, fun to cover, even when they're winning and they're doing great things like on the West Coast trip, or if they lose three in a row like they just have.

Yeah, and I think there's different reason for some of these losses or some of the shortcomings throughout stretches in each quarter that you can attribute reasons to that are beyond just a lack of further a lack of intent. So when you look at the Magic, you know, the two different two different Magic matchups were different, you know, and it's still the same personnel. And you had mentioned this earlier. The Magic guard team predicated on their defense. They have got size, they have length, they are physical, They try and get in you and get under your skin. And I thought the Nets really matched that in a good way, and they maybe didn't have the same type of personnel to do so, but they did not back down one bit that first matchup. You're missing Denis Shooter, You're missing your point guard. So what was a huge issue those points off turnovers and just the lack of true organization, which which that makes sense. Though they shot the lights out and the Magic had a rare game of which they could miss from three as well. You flip, you flip the page to the next matchup, and it was just Rock five in both trying to get off shots, trying to get off quality shots, the style of play that Brooklyn wants to play, and putting up a lot of three point shots. That's exactly what the magic takeaway. And again, this is a team that had had a seven game series against Cleveland last year forty plus wins season, wore a continuity that has been together now in their fourth ye under Jamal Boseley. So there's a lot of reasons that you still look at that and you could see those flashes, Okay, we're going to pull these things. And then Chicago again, that one was the one that wasn't the prettiest and got away in some capacity, But the Nets were missing a lot when you looked at the injury list of players, they are missing impactful players. And then the size of those players and how that looked against a Bulls team that can come at you with some size across the board and some talented former All Stars. There's ways again that you understand why there may have been some.

Yeah, and I think there's different reason for some of these losses or some of the shortcomings throughout stretches in each quarter that you can attribute reasons to that are beyond just a lack of further a lack of intent. So when you look at the Magic, you know, the two different two different Magic matchups were different, you know, and it's still the same personnel. And you had mentioned this earlier. The Magic guard team predicated on their defense. They have got size, they have length, they are physical, They try and get in you and get under your skin. And I thought the Nets really matched that in a good way, and they maybe didn't have the same type of personnel to do so, but they did not back down one bit that first matchup. You're missing Denis Shooter, You're missing your point guard. So what was a huge issue those points off turnovers and just the lack of true organization, which which that makes sense. Though they shot the lights out and the Magic had a rare game of which they could miss from three as well. You flip, you flip the page to the next matchup, and it was just Rock five in both trying to get off shots, trying to get off quality shots, the style of play that Brooklyn wants to play, and putting up a lot of three point shots. That's exactly what the magic takeaway. And again, this is a team that had had a seven game series against Cleveland last year forty plus wins season, wore a continuity that has been together now in their fourth ye under Jamal Boseley. So there's a lot of reasons that you still look at that and you could see those flashes, Okay, we're going to pull these things. And then Chicago again, that one was the one that wasn't the prettiest and got away in some capacity, But the Nets were missing a lot when you looked at the injury list of players, they are missing impactful players. And then the size of those players and how that looked against a Bulls team that can come at you with some size across the board and some talented former All Stars. There's ways again that you understand why there may have been some.

Short Yes, talented former All Stars. Nikolovucevich has been a Nets killer as long as I can remember. It's almost scripted at this point, and you got to spot the Bulls like ten points because he's on.

Short Yes, talented former All Stars. Nikolovucevich has been a Nets killer as long as I can remember. It's almost scripted at this point, and you got to spot the Bulls like ten points because he's on.

The roster and he's having a killer season, Like that's like you look at it like budavit is having a tremendous season. Black Levine is having a tremendous season. Up you kind of go down the list of some of their players, some of the younger players, and it's the same. It's the same concept that they were great team as well, and some Knights just are not your night.

The roster and he's having a killer season, Like that's like you look at it like budavit is having a tremendous season. Black Levine is having a tremendous season. Up you kind of go down the list of some of their players, some of the younger players, and it's the same. It's the same concept that they were great team as well, and some Knights just are not your night.

Some nights are not your night. And that includes the first Orlando game, where the lowest three point shooting percentage team in the league just went crazy. I mean some of the shots, not that they are not pros, but some of the shots KCP was making, Fronds off the dribble. It was tough to keep up with. However, focusing a little bit more in on the magic because I think that was probably the most interesting. You know, a couple of games in this past week. The second game, right, they come out Franz Wagner, who really was dominant in the first game. They switch a ton in the second half. Nick Claxton's on him. They do a pretty good job rebounding behind him. In most cases, Franz goes four to seventeen. They cut off shots at the rim. They just can't really get the offense to flow. And I've spoken about it before, but the one thing that Nets really struggle with offensively is when another team can create ball pressure and be physical at the point of attack and push their offense out towards half court. That really slows the Nets, you know, dribble handoff game down, kind of that east to west, side to side action. And in that way, I think Orlando's a really good foil for Brooklyn because they have a lot of similar characteristics. Right, but Orlando is a huge which the Nets are not. And b been doing this for a minute. You know, Jamal Moseley's in his fourth year as head coach. They've been to the playoffs, They've gotten some experience, and you know, Jordi talks about we don't learn lessons from other teams, right, we learned lessons from ourselves. But in watching the Magic, you know, as outsiders, are there any I don't want to say lessons, but but you know, do they reveal something about the Nets. You know, they played them three times now. All the games have kind of been similar, and they've been a team that the Nets, I don't want to say, can't really figure out, but you know, they've get the Nets. They've given the Nets a lot of problems this year.

Some nights are not your night. And that includes the first Orlando game, where the lowest three point shooting percentage team in the league just went crazy. I mean some of the shots, not that they are not pros, but some of the shots KCP was making, Fronds off the dribble. It was tough to keep up with. However, focusing a little bit more in on the magic because I think that was probably the most interesting. You know, a couple of games in this past week. The second game, right, they come out Franz Wagner, who really was dominant in the first game. They switch a ton in the second half. Nick Claxton's on him. They do a pretty good job rebounding behind him. In most cases, Franz goes four to seventeen. They cut off shots at the rim. They just can't really get the offense to flow. And I've spoken about it before, but the one thing that Nets really struggle with offensively is when another team can create ball pressure and be physical at the point of attack and push their offense out towards half court. That really slows the Nets, you know, dribble handoff game down, kind of that east to west, side to side action. And in that way, I think Orlando's a really good foil for Brooklyn because they have a lot of similar characteristics. Right, but Orlando is a huge which the Nets are not. And b been doing this for a minute. You know, Jamal Moseley's in his fourth year as head coach. They've been to the playoffs, They've gotten some experience, and you know, Jordi talks about we don't learn lessons from other teams, right, we learned lessons from ourselves. But in watching the Magic, you know, as outsiders, are there any I don't want to say lessons, but but you know, do they reveal something about the Nets. You know, they played them three times now. All the games have kind of been similar, and they've been a team that the Nets, I don't want to say, can't really figure out, but you know, they've get the Nets. They've given the Nets a lot of problems this year.

I think they're just a really tough matchup one, and they're a tough matchup for a lot of teams. I'll go back to when you watch and especially too. I know people see this and everyone do fans understand it in watching on television, But when you're sitting there a lot the amount of length, quickness and just the way in which they can swallow you up and shrink the floor as you pointed out, putting Jalen Suggs at the point of attack. But whether it's Franz Wagner. Obviously they're playing without Paulo ben Caro, but a player like Casey individually they have very very good defenders. Collectively, they had an excellent plan and again a continuity of how they want to play. When the Carter junior coming back, what he adds to the table. Even Batadze, like everyone has had it, had added responsibilities with ban Carrol going out, and I think they really flourished with that. And I also think they're just a team that's like they got they got to whether chip on their shol however you want to frame it. But to your point about similarities, like I watched them and they are a team that I'm a huge. I've known Jamal Moseley, huge fan of his. I think he's an excellent coach, wonderful human and individual and how he resonates with players. I had mentioned Dar's fourth year. To me, he's someone and not even the same, you know, the same dispositions, but just in the concept of what we're seeing out of JORDI initially the culture shift. I remember I was doing some other work down and went to the Magic Therefore, I think it was either mostly his first year, second year or whatever it was, And I to everyone was like he shifted the culture immediately. We knew exactly what was being asked of us, we knew where to be, what to do, just how he was able to communicate with us. And to me watching that and then watching those core players, how Orlando drafted. You pick up some key free agents, but otherwise it's a lot of pieces that they developed together. That stuff that I see in this net scene, that's some of the stuff you think two, three, four years down the line, how they want to play. But I think they're just the and to the point of the that on the defensive end, match it with they want to take away threes regardless of what team and so what do the Nets want to do? The things that the Nets really base themselves on, that's what Orlando is good at. And you kind of think saw that come to fruition in both games, on top of Brooklyn missing some key players.

I think they're just a really tough matchup one, and they're a tough matchup for a lot of teams. I'll go back to when you watch and especially too. I know people see this and everyone do fans understand it in watching on television, But when you're sitting there a lot the amount of length, quickness and just the way in which they can swallow you up and shrink the floor as you pointed out, putting Jalen Suggs at the point of attack. But whether it's Franz Wagner. Obviously they're playing without Paulo ben Caro, but a player like Casey individually they have very very good defenders. Collectively, they had an excellent plan and again a continuity of how they want to play. When the Carter junior coming back, what he adds to the table. Even Batadze, like everyone has had it, had added responsibilities with ban Carrol going out, and I think they really flourished with that. And I also think they're just a team that's like they got they got to whether chip on their shol however you want to frame it. But to your point about similarities, like I watched them and they are a team that I'm a huge. I've known Jamal Moseley, huge fan of his. I think he's an excellent coach, wonderful human and individual and how he resonates with players. I had mentioned Dar's fourth year. To me, he's someone and not even the same, you know, the same dispositions, but just in the concept of what we're seeing out of JORDI initially the culture shift. I remember I was doing some other work down and went to the Magic Therefore, I think it was either mostly his first year, second year or whatever it was, And I to everyone was like he shifted the culture immediately. We knew exactly what was being asked of us, we knew where to be, what to do, just how he was able to communicate with us. And to me watching that and then watching those core players, how Orlando drafted. You pick up some key free agents, but otherwise it's a lot of pieces that they developed together. That stuff that I see in this net scene, that's some of the stuff you think two, three, four years down the line, how they want to play. But I think they're just the and to the point of the that on the defensive end, match it with they want to take away threes regardless of what team and so what do the Nets want to do? The things that the Nets really base themselves on, that's what Orlando is good at. And you kind of think saw that come to fruition in both games, on top of Brooklyn missing some key players.

It was the first it was one of the first times consistently that I felt like Brooklyn could not do what they wanted to do. Now they've lost games. You know, every team loses games, but the two Orlando games they're two lowest three point attempt totals, so the fewest threes taken of the season this weekend. And now the first game they turned all over a ton without Dennis Jordi. That was the first thing he brought up in his post game. The second game, it really did just feel like they didn't turn it over as much. But physicality doesn't just happen in the paint, you know, it happens on the perimeter. They push you outside. Every hand off is heart and when the Nets are rolling, they do the same thing to you on defense. But it felt like they got their a taste of their own medicine, especially in that same game.

It was the first it was one of the first times consistently that I felt like Brooklyn could not do what they wanted to do. Now they've lost games. You know, every team loses games, but the two Orlando games they're two lowest three point attempt totals, so the fewest threes taken of the season this weekend. And now the first game they turned all over a ton without Dennis Jordi. That was the first thing he brought up in his post game. The second game, it really did just feel like they didn't turn it over as much. But physicality doesn't just happen in the paint, you know, it happens on the perimeter. They push you outside. Every hand off is heart and when the Nets are rolling, they do the same thing to you on defense. But it felt like they got their a taste of their own medicine, especially in that same game.

And real quick with that. In the second game, to your point, didn't turn the ball over as much seventeen turnovers, but the Magic we're able to get thirty three points off of films. So it's they. I mean, you could see that type of understanding of how to capitalize. So I do I think it's just tough. And again give credit to the Magic in their team as a whole, because I think there's someone that all of us are going to be keeping an eye out for, especially when Bank Cara comes back. What they look like towards their attempt of being towards the top of the Eastern Conference.

And real quick with that. In the second game, to your point, didn't turn the ball over as much seventeen turnovers, but the Magic we're able to get thirty three points off of films. So it's they. I mean, you could see that type of understanding of how to capitalize. So I do I think it's just tough. And again give credit to the Magic in their team as a whole, because I think there's someone that all of us are going to be keeping an eye out for, especially when Bank Cara comes back. What they look like towards their attempt of being towards the top of the Eastern Conference.

Definitely, And and what the Magic did to the Nets was not easy because we saw it in Phoenix, which has happened since last time we talked. If you don't bring that physicality, if you're not rock solid at the point of attack against the Nets, they're going to get up forty threes and they're going to make a lot of them. And that is why the Nets have been in almost every game. That's why they're going to keep being in a lot of games because it takes a special defense, it takes a special game plan to keep to prevent the Nets from doing what they do. And the fact that we're at game twenty, you know, we're about the quarter point of the season, and that was really the first extended stretch of time I felt like the Nets could not execute their principles. That overall, that's a very good sign, and you know it had I don't want to give the impression this week was all full of negatives because it really was not. And we're going to get to the positives. But one quick question I want to ask you before we move on. The Nets are small. It is what it is. Nick Claxton has for a while been the only big available, and even he's you know, gone through troubles with his back, missed a few games here and there, minutes restriction, what have you. Dorian's been out, you know, Ben has missed a couple of games. All of these big guys, so that is just kind of a fact of who they are. However, statistically, their defense suffers in the following areas. They foul, they send the other team to the free throw line a lot. They have not been the best defensive rebounding team, and they allow quite a bit of shots at the rim. So if you know, looking at these next few games, they're getting dayon back, you know they're going to have a break, they're going to get some guys back for sure. What which of those areas do you think is the most improvable, is the most fixable something you're looking at.

Definitely, And and what the Magic did to the Nets was not easy because we saw it in Phoenix, which has happened since last time we talked. If you don't bring that physicality, if you're not rock solid at the point of attack against the Nets, they're going to get up forty threes and they're going to make a lot of them. And that is why the Nets have been in almost every game. That's why they're going to keep being in a lot of games because it takes a special defense, it takes a special game plan to keep to prevent the Nets from doing what they do. And the fact that we're at game twenty, you know, we're about the quarter point of the season, and that was really the first extended stretch of time I felt like the Nets could not execute their principles. That overall, that's a very good sign, and you know it had I don't want to give the impression this week was all full of negatives because it really was not. And we're going to get to the positives. But one quick question I want to ask you before we move on. The Nets are small. It is what it is. Nick Claxton has for a while been the only big available, and even he's you know, gone through troubles with his back, missed a few games here and there, minutes restriction, what have you. Dorian's been out, you know, Ben has missed a couple of games. All of these big guys, so that is just kind of a fact of who they are. However, statistically, their defense suffers in the following areas. They foul, they send the other team to the free throw line a lot. They have not been the best defensive rebounding team, and they allow quite a bit of shots at the rim. So if you know, looking at these next few games, they're getting dayon back, you know they're going to have a break, they're going to get some guys back for sure. What which of those areas do you think is the most improvable, is the most fixable something you're looking at.

You think they all go hand in hand, right, because oftentimes I think you're folling because you're a little out of position. You might be liking to a spot. I think part of it, too is the push in the emphasis on being physical, and they played very physical teams, and so I think when it comes to that, there's a balance and as the season progresses you figure that out. I think some of the issues with the protection of rebounding some of that too is getting used to how they're pressuring out in the backcourt, trying to extend defenses, trapping, blitzing, showing different looks and what does that do. It can make you vulnerable on the backside because you are I don't want to use the word gamble because that's not a part of their defensive philosophy, but but you're over extending yourself to try and disrupt and sometimes those lotations on the back whether they're a little late or whether you know you're in the spot that you're off. I think I think all of those things go hand in hand and add in the fact again, this is a part of the NBA. Everything deals with it. They've been missing a lot of front core players. They've been missing a lot of bigs. You know, you look at the Chicago game and yeah, you're without Ben Simmons and Dorian Finney, Smith, Cam Johnson, also Zire Willie Like this is. This is even if it's not your day, Ron Sharp, Nick Plack. Sin's filled guys with length and so if you're switching or if you're rotating off, then you're looking at a Dennis Shrewder who's trying to defend in the post, or you're looking at another smaller size that everyone fights. Every one's doing a great job. But I think when you look at those numbers, that adds to it. The same with the defensive rebounding. Sometimes when you're rotating shuffling off, you get caught a little bit or you don't have those same type of bigs. And we've seen that they could do it. We've seen or nothing has changed in the fact that they can do it. I just think some of those factors will be mitigated for some of.

You think they all go hand in hand, right, because oftentimes I think you're folling because you're a little out of position. You might be liking to a spot. I think part of it, too is the push in the emphasis on being physical, and they played very physical teams, and so I think when it comes to that, there's a balance and as the season progresses you figure that out. I think some of the issues with the protection of rebounding some of that too is getting used to how they're pressuring out in the backcourt, trying to extend defenses, trapping, blitzing, showing different looks and what does that do. It can make you vulnerable on the backside because you are I don't want to use the word gamble because that's not a part of their defensive philosophy, but but you're over extending yourself to try and disrupt and sometimes those lotations on the back whether they're a little late or whether you know you're in the spot that you're off. I think I think all of those things go hand in hand and add in the fact again, this is a part of the NBA. Everything deals with it. They've been missing a lot of front core players. They've been missing a lot of bigs. You know, you look at the Chicago game and yeah, you're without Ben Simmons and Dorian Finney, Smith, Cam Johnson, also Zire Willie Like this is. This is even if it's not your day, Ron Sharp, Nick Plack. Sin's filled guys with length and so if you're switching or if you're rotating off, then you're looking at a Dennis Shrewder who's trying to defend in the post, or you're looking at another smaller size that everyone fights. Every one's doing a great job. But I think when you look at those numbers, that adds to it. The same with the defensive rebounding. Sometimes when you're rotating shuffling off, you get caught a little bit or you don't have those same type of bigs. And we've seen that they could do it. We've seen or nothing has changed in the fact that they can do it. I just think some of those factors will be mitigated for some of.

Those roots, definitely, And you don't want to say the philosophy isn't working because the one thing they are well above league average and is forcing turnovers, and they need to do a little bit of a better job in getting out and running and converting opportunities when they force those turnovers. But we can't just look at the raw rebounding numbers with this team all the time because they frequently won the turnover battle, and so those are shots that the other team is not getting up and you don't have chances to rebound.

Those roots, definitely, And you don't want to say the philosophy isn't working because the one thing they are well above league average and is forcing turnovers, and they need to do a little bit of a better job in getting out and running and converting opportunities when they force those turnovers. But we can't just look at the raw rebounding numbers with this team all the time because they frequently won the turnover battle, and so those are shots that the other team is not getting up and you don't have chances to rebound.

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They are actually around league average at forcing misses at the rim, so it's not all bad in terms of their interior defense. You know when they are in position doing a good job going vertically. I think you know we've seen that a lot. You know, they want to say the key play of the Golden State win was Tyree smartin getting back in transition. He got like a two guard getting up for something exactly a miss. Yeah, so it's definitely not all bad and they're certainly not soft anything like that. Yeah, and that that's a big win for them and keeping the Positives train rolling. We'll move on to Brooklyn's finest. Who do you just really want to give a big shout out to from this last week of play?

They are actually around league average at forcing misses at the rim, so it's not all bad in terms of their interior defense. You know when they are in position doing a good job going vertically. I think you know we've seen that a lot. You know, they want to say the key play of the Golden State win was Tyree smartin getting back in transition. He got like a two guard getting up for something exactly a miss. Yeah, so it's definitely not all bad and they're certainly not soft anything like that. Yeah, and that that's a big win for them and keeping the Positives train rolling. We'll move on to Brooklyn's finest. Who do you just really want to give a big shout out to from this last week of play?

I think I do want to go with Darrek Whitehead. I know it's recent, and I know it was, but he's someone who obviously has been through a lot since dealing with injuries and coming back getting himself settled, opportunities that he has taken with the Long Island Nets and now here, and he had a chance to have a good run and he just lit it up in a way that the Nets really really needed. And he's a player I think too, Like I will say this justn't watching him being around him, him being around the team. He is sunshine, Like he is smiling he's he brings a great energy of vibe, like you need those chemistry type players that really just lift the team, lift the locker room, lift the vibe. And he always does that. He consistently does that, and sometimes that's not as easy to do when you're not getting a bunch of time. You feel like when you do get moments, you're not performing the way you believe you can. And whether that's you know, the in the practice, be ready group or whatnot, or in the games. And I was just so proud and like excited to see him showcase some of those skills that you know are there. So he he to me with someone that the nets needed, that those moments matter. So often we talk about minutes at the end of the game or a game being a little lopsided, it's still what a player shows a coaching staff or shows an organization in those stretches is important. And I was just really excited to see that for him.

I think I do want to go with Darrek Whitehead. I know it's recent, and I know it was, but he's someone who obviously has been through a lot since dealing with injuries and coming back getting himself settled, opportunities that he has taken with the Long Island Nets and now here, and he had a chance to have a good run and he just lit it up in a way that the Nets really really needed. And he's a player I think too, Like I will say this justn't watching him being around him, him being around the team. He is sunshine, Like he is smiling he's he brings a great energy of vibe, like you need those chemistry type players that really just lift the team, lift the locker room, lift the vibe. And he always does that. He consistently does that, and sometimes that's not as easy to do when you're not getting a bunch of time. You feel like when you do get moments, you're not performing the way you believe you can. And whether that's you know, the in the practice, be ready group or whatnot, or in the games. And I was just so proud and like excited to see him showcase some of those skills that you know are there. So he he to me with someone that the nets needed, that those moments matter. So often we talk about minutes at the end of the game or a game being a little lopsided, it's still what a player shows a coaching staff or shows an organization in those stretches is important. And I was just really excited to see that for him.

Definitely. You know, you talked about being excited for your teammates and being in good teammate, but it is a two way street. You have to be a guy that your teammates will get excited for. You know, when it's not your turn to shine and Dreek, anyone you talk to, I mean you, you obviously have a special knowledge around the group a lot, but reporters, fans, I mean media staffers. You will not find anybody that does not have a kind word to say. But essentially exactly what Sarah just said about Derek. You know, foot surgery before his freshman year at Duke is only a year at Duke, foot surgery after the season, surgery to correct shin splints at the end of last year, and through it all, the guy has never lost his smile, his joy, his willingness, his openness in talking about it. And that's why I think you saw the reaction from his teammates last night in Chicago. He made six threes, youngest player in Net's history to do that. It was really only the second game of his NBA career that he got non end of game garbage time minutes. And the guy had eighteen points. Not only that, two steals, a block on a corner three an impressive you know, rotation at the rim went vertical, that got the Nets bench fired up.

Definitely. You know, you talked about being excited for your teammates and being in good teammate, but it is a two way street. You have to be a guy that your teammates will get excited for. You know, when it's not your turn to shine and Dreek, anyone you talk to, I mean you, you obviously have a special knowledge around the group a lot, but reporters, fans, I mean media staffers. You will not find anybody that does not have a kind word to say. But essentially exactly what Sarah just said about Derek. You know, foot surgery before his freshman year at Duke is only a year at Duke, foot surgery after the season, surgery to correct shin splints at the end of last year, and through it all, the guy has never lost his smile, his joy, his willingness, his openness in talking about it. And that's why I think you saw the reaction from his teammates last night in Chicago. He made six threes, youngest player in Net's history to do that. It was really only the second game of his NBA career that he got non end of game garbage time minutes. And the guy had eighteen points. Not only that, two steals, a block on a corner three an impressive you know, rotation at the rim went vertical, that got the Nets bench fired up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, he was really all over the place. And you know, he had a couple great quotes after the game. And by the way, Sarah, was not just that performance why you gave him Brooklyn's finest, it was also his career high twenty six point performance in the G League.

Yeah, he was really all over the place. And you know, he had a couple great quotes after the game. And by the way, Sarah, was not just that performance why you gave him Brooklyn's finest, it was also his career high twenty six point performance in the G League.

In the last yet yes, yes, yes, yes.

In the last yet yes, yes, yes, yes.

I know you were thinking about good work and he said, you know, quoting him, it was a huge part me scoring that twenty six or whatever it was in the G League. It just helped bring back the confidence that I've been missing for two years, dealing with the injuries and stuff, just not believing in myself obviously knowing the talent and stuff was there, but not doing much for the past two years. So I feel like that was just a huge step for me. And that's about as honest as earnest as you'll hear, you know, a guy talk about his own career, and man, you hope he can keep this, keep his train rolling, and with the Nets history of developing guys in the G League, even if Derey continues to get run down there, hopefully we look at that Chicago game as you know, a turning point, as a as a lynch pin in his you know, story of success, and I think there's a good chance of it. I mean, man, he can shoot that thing.

I know you were thinking about good work and he said, you know, quoting him, it was a huge part me scoring that twenty six or whatever it was in the G League. It just helped bring back the confidence that I've been missing for two years, dealing with the injuries and stuff, just not believing in myself obviously knowing the talent and stuff was there, but not doing much for the past two years. So I feel like that was just a huge step for me. And that's about as honest as earnest as you'll hear, you know, a guy talk about his own career, and man, you hope he can keep this, keep his train rolling, and with the Nets history of developing guys in the G League, even if Derey continues to get run down there, hopefully we look at that Chicago game as you know, a turning point, as a as a lynch pin in his you know, story of success, and I think there's a good chance of it. I mean, man, he can shoot that thing.

Absolutely absolutely.

Absolutely absolutely.

I want to give a shout out to Dennis Shrewder. I know he missed a game in the past week, but just the guy. We were in Golden State and he was questionable, and you know, some of the reporters were talking, I don't know, if you know Dennis, they might not play him. I said, no, no, no, He's gonna play. He sees Steph out there, he sees kd'm this is extremely complimentary. He sees these guys and it gets him going even more than he already is. And he closed out the Suns and he's laughing at KD on switches. They're joking. He's frying people. He's bringing the energy and you know he get Orlando the games come. He's really, with Cam Thomas out, the only true initiator on the team. He's six to one Orlando's huge struggles a bit Chicago the other day, sixteen points, ten assists. The guy has a hunt on his plate right now. And maybe not every possession looks perfect, but you know where would this nets offense right now? Per cleaning the glass? Above average offense With all the injuries, it's hard to imagine them being anything close to that without Dennis this this season and this week I thought was just a perfect example of it.

I want to give a shout out to Dennis Shrewder. I know he missed a game in the past week, but just the guy. We were in Golden State and he was questionable, and you know, some of the reporters were talking, I don't know, if you know Dennis, they might not play him. I said, no, no, no, He's gonna play. He sees Steph out there, he sees kd'm this is extremely complimentary. He sees these guys and it gets him going even more than he already is. And he closed out the Suns and he's laughing at KD on switches. They're joking. He's frying people. He's bringing the energy and you know he get Orlando the games come. He's really, with Cam Thomas out, the only true initiator on the team. He's six to one Orlando's huge struggles a bit Chicago the other day, sixteen points, ten assists. The guy has a hunt on his plate right now. And maybe not every possession looks perfect, but you know where would this nets offense right now? Per cleaning the glass? Above average offense With all the injuries, it's hard to imagine them being anything close to that without Dennis this this season and this week I thought was just a perfect example of it.

Yes, without a doubt, I think we saw some of that when he was absent from that Orlando game, as we had discussed.

Yes, without a doubt, I think we saw some of that when he was absent from that Orlando game, as we had discussed.

Yeah, the way he can just get to the rim and his little scoop shots where he doesn't put his left hand on the ball, It's been seared into my brain now. The way he can slid it through spaces and with that I will move. He's always a next net that we're watching. I'm always so excited to see him play, especially if there's another star on the court for him to go up against and you know, test his talent. The next net for you, Who do you really want to keep an eye on over this next week? Who's got your attention?

Yeah, the way he can just get to the rim and his little scoop shots where he doesn't put his left hand on the ball, It's been seared into my brain now. The way he can slid it through spaces and with that I will move. He's always a next net that we're watching. I'm always so excited to see him play, especially if there's another star on the court for him to go up against and you know, test his talent. The next net for you, Who do you really want to keep an eye on over this next week? Who's got your attention?

I mean I talked about Tyree smartin last week, and now it feels like I'm just turning to who I most recently picked to Brooklyn's finus. But I'm really excited, and maybe it may be more in the G League with the Long Island Nets. I'm excited to keep watching Dree Whitehead. I think he's someone that you know, I assume we may get to day Ron Sharp obviously having an opportunity to watch him now that he's back. But I'm curious to see what this game, this particular game, because confidence is something that is so valuable but can be so fragile. How this may spark what it looks like for Whitehead when giving an opportunity with the Brooklyn Nets, but also how he continues to help that flourishment in the G League.

I mean I talked about Tyree smartin last week, and now it feels like I'm just turning to who I most recently picked to Brooklyn's finus. But I'm really excited, and maybe it may be more in the G League with the Long Island Nets. I'm excited to keep watching Dree Whitehead. I think he's someone that you know, I assume we may get to day Ron Sharp obviously having an opportunity to watch him now that he's back. But I'm curious to see what this game, this particular game, because confidence is something that is so valuable but can be so fragile. How this may spark what it looks like for Whitehead when giving an opportunity with the Brooklyn Nets, but also how he continues to help that flourishment in the G League.

Yeah, he talked about early this season. He said, the offense is going to come some matter of me getting healthy, getting my feet under me. The defense is what I really have to learn in terms of x's and o's and wrap my brain around. And as mentioned it, first play of the game gets a steal with some ball pressure, rotates, blocks a corner, three forces a stop at the rim. So if he's you know, putting that all together. The guys just turned twenty. That is a great next NET to watch and I encourage, I really do encourage my fellow NETS fans to tune into some Long Island games and watch his development because we've talked about it already. You know, Cam Thomas Dayroon Sharp, Nick Claxton. These guys have come through Long Island and turned into bona fide NBA players, and there's no reason I think Dereek can't do the same. I mean, heck, Jalen Wilson and Noah Clowney from last year, we're awesome in the Juliague. You know, the g matters, And so does the return of Dayron Shark, not just because you know, we know what he brings, you know, and defense, rebounding and he's got He's improved so much over his first three years in the league now in his fourth. But I want to read you some some stats if I could not too heavy on the numbers, but Brooklyn is right now an above average offense per cleaning their glass, They're thirteenth in offense. They are above average in effective field goal percentage so they're making their shots their round league average, and turnover percentage and they get to the line a lot, tenth in the league and free throw rate. They are towards the bottom of the league in offensive rebounding. And boy, if there's one thing Dayron Sharp can do, it's get on the glass. So his return and his fit into this team just seems just like a hand and gloff fit, you know, does it not?

Yeah, he talked about early this season. He said, the offense is going to come some matter of me getting healthy, getting my feet under me. The defense is what I really have to learn in terms of x's and o's and wrap my brain around. And as mentioned it, first play of the game gets a steal with some ball pressure, rotates, blocks a corner, three forces a stop at the rim. So if he's you know, putting that all together. The guys just turned twenty. That is a great next NET to watch and I encourage, I really do encourage my fellow NETS fans to tune into some Long Island games and watch his development because we've talked about it already. You know, Cam Thomas Dayroon Sharp, Nick Claxton. These guys have come through Long Island and turned into bona fide NBA players, and there's no reason I think Dereek can't do the same. I mean, heck, Jalen Wilson and Noah Clowney from last year, we're awesome in the Juliague. You know, the g matters, And so does the return of Dayron Shark, not just because you know, we know what he brings, you know, and defense, rebounding and he's got He's improved so much over his first three years in the league now in his fourth. But I want to read you some some stats if I could not too heavy on the numbers, but Brooklyn is right now an above average offense per cleaning their glass, They're thirteenth in offense. They are above average in effective field goal percentage so they're making their shots their round league average, and turnover percentage and they get to the line a lot, tenth in the league and free throw rate. They are towards the bottom of the league in offensive rebounding. And boy, if there's one thing Dayron Sharp can do, it's get on the glass. So his return and his fit into this team just seems just like a hand and gloff fit, you know, does it not?

Yeah, I mean, in those things. Also, I think he had a great offseason, a good preseason. Anyone that misses that much time, I think it may he needs some run to get your legs under you. But I'm excited to see and I also think, hopefully then getting some other players back, the compilation of this entire roster, what it looks like and how he can play alongside some of those players will be fun to see, certainly.

Yeah, I mean, in those things. Also, I think he had a great offseason, a good preseason. Anyone that misses that much time, I think it may he needs some run to get your legs under you. But I'm excited to see and I also think, hopefully then getting some other players back, the compilation of this entire roster, what it looks like and how he can play alongside some of those players will be fun to see, certainly.

And the thing that popped last year is, you know, he just came in on a different level athletically in terms of catching lobs above the rim. It was his best season in terms of two point percentage, in terms of field goal percentage, positioning on defense, just kind of short space explosiveness. So he had a great block on Nikolovuchovitch last night where he hedged you know, out by where you guys are sitting at the scores table, recovered back to Votch driving the lane, blocked a layup, and it's like, I don't know if Dayron does that his first couple of years in the league. But like the guys, well, when you.

And the thing that popped last year is, you know, he just came in on a different level athletically in terms of catching lobs above the rim. It was his best season in terms of two point percentage, in terms of field goal percentage, positioning on defense, just kind of short space explosiveness. So he had a great block on Nikolovuchovitch last night where he hedged you know, out by where you guys are sitting at the scores table, recovered back to Votch driving the lane, blocked a layup, and it's like, I don't know if Dayron does that his first couple of years in the league. But like the guys, well, when you.

Said it, in the ability to track to blitz, to recover his movements, it's not just about the rebounding, but what he can do in the scheme of the defense, I think he's going to be a value add to all of that.

Said it, in the ability to track to blitz, to recover his movements, it's not just about the rebounding, but what he can do in the scheme of the defense, I think he's going to be a value add to all of that.

Definitely. There are a couple just awesome, just classic Dayron moments where it's his first game back. He's getting his legs under him and some offensive rebounds just are off his fingertips. But it's like in a week, those are putbacks, those are twos. And speaking of Dayaron Sharp, oh I set that up, well, it's time for trivia. Yeah, do you want to know a fun fact about Dayiron Sharp?

Definitely. There are a couple just awesome, just classic Dayron moments where it's his first game back. He's getting his legs under him and some offensive rebounds just are off his fingertips. But it's like in a week, those are putbacks, those are twos. And speaking of Dayaron Sharp, oh I set that up, well, it's time for trivia. Yeah, do you want to know a fun fact about Dayiron Sharp?

I would love to. He is the.

I would love to. He is the.

Franchise leader going back to New Jersey. Okay, in offensive rebounding percentage per thirty six minutes per one hundred you name it right, Okay, Okay, The Nets on their roster have two other all time franchise leaders. It'd be pretty hard to do all of it. So I will say one of them leads the franchise in all time field goal percentage and one of them leads the franchise in all time turnover percentage lowest turnovers, turno avoidance. Of course, who are those.

Franchise leader going back to New Jersey. Okay, in offensive rebounding percentage per thirty six minutes per one hundred you name it right, Okay, Okay, The Nets on their roster have two other all time franchise leaders. It'd be pretty hard to do all of it. So I will say one of them leads the franchise in all time field goal percentage and one of them leads the franchise in all time turnover percentage lowest turnovers, turno avoidance. Of course, who are those.

Two Nets the current roster? You mean?

Two Nets the current roster? You mean?

Yes, yes, active pleasure, So I would.

Yes, yes, active pleasure, So I would.

Say field goal percentage would be Nick Clackson slam dunk.

Say field goal percentage would be Nick Clackson slam dunk.

He is a career sixty six percent shooter. That is about four and a half five points above Jared Allen and he's got that one in the bag for now.

He is a career sixty six percent shooter. That is about four and a half five points above Jared Allen and he's got that one in the bag for now.

Lois turnover percentage time all time.

Lois turnover percentage time all time.

And yeah, this is all time franchise leaders.

And yeah, this is all time franchise leaders.

I mean a part of me wants to say Shrewder Dennis Shrewder.

I mean a part of me wants to say Shrewder Dennis Shrewder.

No, No, we talked some one.

No, No, we talked some one.

Who handles the ball a lot, like, do we feel like the sample size is large enough.

Who handles the ball a lot, like, do we feel like the sample size is large enough.

The sample size is longerge enough. According to Basketball Reference, this is all minimum requirements met. No Mickey Mouse leaders here, no board.

The sample size is longerge enough. According to Basketball Reference, this is all minimum requirements met. No Mickey Mouse leaders here, no board.

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That is correct. I mean we've talked about his turnover avoidance on the pod before the guy turns it over seven point two percent of possessions. That's the all time leader, just ahead of one of nine year old ten year old Lucas Kaplan's all time favorites, Anthony morrow O. That boy could shoot the rock.

That is correct. I mean we've talked about his turnover avoidance on the pod before the guy turns it over seven point two percent of possessions. That's the all time leader, just ahead of one of nine year old ten year old Lucas Kaplan's all time favorites, Anthony morrow O. That boy could shoot the rock.

I will tell you all that I like this.

I will tell you all that I like this.

Yes, this is a historic NETS roster.

Yes, this is a historic NETS roster.

We're a good trivia day with this, you know.

We're a good trivia day with this, you know.

I thought that was really good and we touched on Dayron last. I mean we're hey, We're just like the Nets. We're finding our stride. This has been episode seven of The Backcourt. Sarah, is there any partying words you'd like to say? We actually don't really know the schedule for this upcoming We don't which is a good time We can say.

I thought that was really good and we touched on Dayron last. I mean we're hey, We're just like the Nets. We're finding our stride. This has been episode seven of The Backcourt. Sarah, is there any partying words you'd like to say? We actually don't really know the schedule for this upcoming We don't which is a good time We can say.

That, No, except for Indiana and Milwaukee, and then after that just keep writing. But we're gonna have a little bit of breathing room in between games, so that won't be a bad thing for all of us. For all.

That, No, except for Indiana and Milwaukee, and then after that just keep writing. But we're gonna have a little bit of breathing room in between games, so that won't be a bad thing for all of us. For all.

No, we'll catch up on some things, you know. You know, it's the first time. It's only time for the next seven months. My schedule has some spontaneity, some uncertainty in it. I don't mind that you can find the back Court wherever you get podcasts, and of course you can rate us, like subscribe, say nice things about us on social media. All of it is appreciated. This has been episode seven of The Backcourt, a Brooklyn Nets podcast presented by Ticketmaster. Thank you all for listening. We appreciate it so much. For tiding the statinself

No, we'll catch up on some things, you know. You know, it's the first time. It's only time for the next seven months. My schedule has some spontaneity, some uncertainty in it. I don't mind that you can find the back Court wherever you get podcasts, and of course you can rate us, like subscribe, say nice things about us on social media. All of it is appreciated. This has been episode seven of The Backcourt, a Brooklyn Nets podcast presented by Ticketmaster. Thank you all for listening. We appreciate it so much. For tiding the statinself