Hello, Texans, Welcome to the show Thursday night. You know that normally means we have the General John McClain. He's not in the house today, but we thought we'd invite a special guest because there's been so much talk about the offensive line. And we'll get to all the news of the day later, but about the offensive line, Cam Robinson reportedly inking the deal yesterday or agreeing to terms, or however you want to put it, and we thought we'd get Wade Smith's opinion.

Hello, Texans, Welcome to the show Thursday night. You know that normally means we have the General John McClain. He's not in the house today, but we thought we'd invite a special guest because there's been so much talk about the offensive line. And we'll get to all the news of the day later, but about the offensive line, Cam Robinson reportedly inking the deal yesterday or agreeing to terms, or however you want to put it, and we thought we'd get Wade Smith's opinion.

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Men in the trenches because Pro Bowl guard, he's played every position on the offensive line. Let's get to our visit with Wade Smith. Part of the greatest offensive line in franchise history and no offense.

Men in the trenches because Pro Bowl guard, he's played every position on the offensive line. Let's get to our visit with Wade Smith. Part of the greatest offensive line in franchise history and no offense.

Wade.

Wade.

We're hoping that we don't always have to say that, but it's kind of nice to say because you're part of the greatest line in franchise history. Hoping to replace it hasn't happened yet.

We're hoping that we don't always have to say that, but it's kind of nice to say because you're part of the greatest line in franchise history. Hoping to replace it hasn't happened yet.

Welcome. How you doing, Wade?

Welcome. How you doing, Wade?

I'm doing good.

I'm doing good.

And I tell you what, man, that's something that I've been hoping and really wishing forward that you can stop saying that about the twenty ten eleven twelve offensive line, that that's the best group in the history of the franchise. When you're part of a franchise, you want to leave something behind and have somebody to build off of and improve on.

And I tell you what, man, that's something that I've been hoping and really wishing forward that you can stop saying that about the twenty ten eleven twelve offensive line, that that's the best group in the history of the franchise. When you're part of a franchise, you want to leave something behind and have somebody to build off of and improve on.

And people look.

And people look.

At the Houston Texans like they historically have good offensive lines, like the Steelers historically have good linebackers, and we haven't had that with the Texans. So yeah, I want the same thing too. I want people to not look at me and say, man, you were the best one to play at that position in the franchise history, like and I want somebody to come to be better than me, you know what I mean. And I think a lot of guys feel the same way. Because if the Texans offensive line can be better than what we were, then I think that the Texans is a franchise to take that next step. We want to win it big and want to win a Super Bowl, and I think that's what it's going to take.

At the Houston Texans like they historically have good offensive lines, like the Steelers historically have good linebackers, and we haven't had that with the Texans. So yeah, I want the same thing too. I want people to not look at me and say, man, you were the best one to play at that position in the franchise history, like and I want somebody to come to be better than me, you know what I mean. And I think a lot of guys feel the same way. Because if the Texans offensive line can be better than what we were, then I think that the Texans is a franchise to take that next step. We want to win it big and want to win a Super Bowl, and I think that's what it's going to take.

You're not the You're not Mercury Morris, the late Mercury Morris, who always loved seeing a team lose, so as Dolphins could be the ones that stayed undefeated for all that time. Wait, let's just start with probably the biggest news item I guess we've had probably in a while, and not being Larimie Tunseell traded to the Washington Commanders. Texans get back in essence once things can't allow to get back. Basically a third this year or second next year. Pretty decent return for Larmy Tunseell. But your thoughts about Laramie moving on to Washington and what that that move then does for this offensive line in your opinion.

You're not the You're not Mercury Morris, the late Mercury Morris, who always loved seeing a team lose, so as Dolphins could be the ones that stayed undefeated for all that time. Wait, let's just start with probably the biggest news item I guess we've had probably in a while, and not being Larimie Tunseell traded to the Washington Commanders. Texans get back in essence once things can't allow to get back. Basically a third this year or second next year. Pretty decent return for Larmy Tunseell. But your thoughts about Laramie moving on to Washington and what that that move then does for this offensive line in your opinion.

First of all, say that you could tell that Washington is going all in as far as them trying to take that next step and be a Super Bowl contender. Jeremie's top three left tackle in the in the NFL, and so those guys don't come by easy, and so I think he's going to do well out there in Washington. I do think that there's a lot of external and internal factors that it makes sense why the Texas would make that move. You get the get you get assets back, trying to get younger in that room. There's a lot of people that are are getting paid. You see, you got this thingly deal that just came down. You got the Neil Hunter that just got paid, You got CJ. Strauders coming up that's gonna get paid. There's there's that aspect of it, and I think there's also I think there's there was things that went on in the room last year, and not necessarily what happened in the room, but what was put on film by the offensive line group. That to me, there has to be some things that get shaken up and changed in there, because there was there was too many things that I watched, whether it's live in person or on film or on TV, whatever it may be, where it's like, this stuff is unacceptable and it's not reflective of what Demiko Ryans is as a head coach. You look at that defense, and you look at Demiko Ryans, his defense reflects him.

First of all, say that you could tell that Washington is going all in as far as them trying to take that next step and be a Super Bowl contender. Jeremie's top three left tackle in the in the NFL, and so those guys don't come by easy, and so I think he's going to do well out there in Washington. I do think that there's a lot of external and internal factors that it makes sense why the Texas would make that move. You get the get you get assets back, trying to get younger in that room. There's a lot of people that are are getting paid. You see, you got this thingly deal that just came down. You got the Neil Hunter that just got paid, You got CJ. Strauders coming up that's gonna get paid. There's there's that aspect of it, and I think there's also I think there's there was things that went on in the room last year, and not necessarily what happened in the room, but what was put on film by the offensive line group. That to me, there has to be some things that get shaken up and changed in there, because there was there was too many things that I watched, whether it's live in person or on film or on TV, whatever it may be, where it's like, this stuff is unacceptable and it's not reflective of what Demiko Ryans is as a head coach. You look at that defense, and you look at Demiko Ryans, his defense reflects him.

They talk about swarm mentality.

They talk about swarm mentality.

I didn't see that at the offensive line group, and that's that's really disappointing to me because that's what we were when when when we were there, when when when the Miko was our captain of the team and he was the leader of the of the of the franchise, our offensive line was on that same wavelength of where we played the game with an edge, We played the game with that that that swarm mentality quote unquote, and uh I didn't really see that last year I lost. I saw a lot of stuff that was you know, elementary stuff where you're getting beat on T T games and getting beat on three man games and pick stunts, stuff that you can see right away, and just the sense of urgency and all those type of things. I just didn't see it there. And you know, learn me was the leader of that group. And if you're the leader of that group and that's what's put on tape, I don't know if it's necessarily such a great thing to be considered the leader of that group. And that's that's nothing against Learning, that's nothing against those guys that are in that room.

I didn't see that at the offensive line group, and that's that's really disappointing to me because that's what we were when when when we were there, when when when the Miko was our captain of the team and he was the leader of the of the of the franchise, our offensive line was on that same wavelength of where we played the game with an edge, We played the game with that that that swarm mentality quote unquote, and uh I didn't really see that last year I lost. I saw a lot of stuff that was you know, elementary stuff where you're getting beat on T T games and getting beat on three man games and pick stunts, stuff that you can see right away, and just the sense of urgency and all those type of things. I just didn't see it there. And you know, learn me was the leader of that group. And if you're the leader of that group and that's what's put on tape, I don't know if it's necessarily such a great thing to be considered the leader of that group. And that's that's nothing against Learning, that's nothing against those guys that are in that room.

But there's certain things that.

But there's certain things that.

Were putting that are put on a film that other teams in the in around the they look at and say, oh, we're gonna take advantage of them there, We're gonna beat them, or we got we gotta we got an easy win here. And I just didn't see very much of opponents making business decisions because of what might happen to them if they try to do certain things against our offensive line.

Were putting that are put on a film that other teams in the in around the they look at and say, oh, we're gonna take advantage of them there, We're gonna beat them, or we got we gotta we got an easy win here. And I just didn't see very much of opponents making business decisions because of what might happen to them if they try to do certain things against our offensive line.

They were just free.

They were just free.

Willing, having a great time hunting and believing they were gonna get home and too often they got home and c. J. Stroud took way too many hits last year and stuff that was very preventable stuff. And so just from that mindset of I think a change had to be made in that room. You know, there's coaching change that happened in that room. Personnel changes happened in that room, and so the guys that they bring in and the guys that are remaining from that, there's got to be a change in how they approach things in order for them to become and kind of embody that swarm mentality.

Willing, having a great time hunting and believing they were gonna get home and too often they got home and c. J. Stroud took way too many hits last year and stuff that was very preventable stuff. And so just from that mindset of I think a change had to be made in that room. You know, there's coaching change that happened in that room. Personnel changes happened in that room, and so the guys that they bring in and the guys that are remaining from that, there's got to be a change in how they approach things in order for them to become and kind of embody that swarm mentality.

Former Texans Pro Bowl guard Wade Smith with us, who has played every position on the offensive line in his NFL career. Wade, let's talk about what they might do here. Because cam Robinson enters the fold. They could have put Titus over there at left tackle. You would think camra would be over there. Maybe they have a rookie over there. They have a lot of different things they can do. We haven't lived through the draft yet, so what are your thoughts on how they might put this thing together.

Former Texans Pro Bowl guard Wade Smith with us, who has played every position on the offensive line in his NFL career. Wade, let's talk about what they might do here. Because cam Robinson enters the fold. They could have put Titus over there at left tackle. You would think camra would be over there. Maybe they have a rookie over there. They have a lot of different things they can do. We haven't lived through the draft yet, so what are your thoughts on how they might put this thing together.

Yeah, I think it's not going to be completely an open competition, but I think it's going to be very close to that. I could see a scenario where Titus Howard plays left tackle because he's done it in the past. I could see a scenario where Cam Robinson plays left tackle because he's done it in the past. I can see a scenario where Fisher plays left tackle. All of those guys have experience of playing all over the offensive line, So I think OTA's mini camp, all of that type stuff is going to be important to figure out who's going to actually be the starters at the tackle positions and also at the center and guard positions. I think there's open competition everywhere that you see on the offensive line. I'm not seeing anybody where I'm saying for sure this guy is going to be starting at this particular spot.

Yeah, I think it's not going to be completely an open competition, but I think it's going to be very close to that. I could see a scenario where Titus Howard plays left tackle because he's done it in the past. I could see a scenario where Cam Robinson plays left tackle because he's done it in the past. I can see a scenario where Fisher plays left tackle. All of those guys have experience of playing all over the offensive line, So I think OTA's mini camp, all of that type stuff is going to be important to figure out who's going to actually be the starters at the tackle positions and also at the center and guard positions. I think there's open competition everywhere that you see on the offensive line. I'm not seeing anybody where I'm saying for sure this guy is going to be starting at this particular spot.

And we'll see what happens with the draft. They're going to be.

And we'll see what happens with the draft. They're going to be.

Adding guys in, I'm sure from the from the at the tackle position, guard position, every spot. I think it's just going to be a situation where you don't necessarily know who's going to be where. I do think you can go into a saying that Titus Howard is going to start, but where is he going to start?

Adding guys in, I'm sure from the from the at the tackle position, guard position, every spot. I think it's just going to be a situation where you don't necessarily know who's going to be where. I do think you can go into a saying that Titus Howard is going to start, but where is he going to start?

I think time will tell.

I think time will tell.

With that way, do the best person to ask this question?

With that way, do the best person to ask this question?

Because we go through and you know, I do a ton of work on a draft, and we look at guys and think, well, you know, I don't think this guy could play tackle, but he could play guard. Or he played tackle in college, but now he's going to transition to guard, or uh, you know, he's left tackle, but you know, I think you should play right tackle. It always seems so easy to talk about, but in reality, how tough is it to make a move from tackle to guard, especially coming from college to coming to the NFL.

Because we go through and you know, I do a ton of work on a draft, and we look at guys and think, well, you know, I don't think this guy could play tackle, but he could play guard. Or he played tackle in college, but now he's going to transition to guard, or uh, you know, he's left tackle, but you know, I think you should play right tackle. It always seems so easy to talk about, but in reality, how tough is it to make a move from tackle to guard, especially coming from college to coming to the NFL.

You've done that, you made that transition.

You've done that, you made that transition.

You could play all different positions, but making the transition from tackle to guard. I don't know how many people go from guard to tackle. Maybe it's happened, but mostly tackle to guard. How difficult is that in reality to do.

You could play all different positions, but making the transition from tackle to guard. I don't know how many people go from guard to tackle. Maybe it's happened, but mostly tackle to guard. How difficult is that in reality to do.

I think it's extremely difficult, and a lot of times it's predicated out of necessity. Like I was able to play a bunch of different positions because first of all, I came into the league only two years of playing offensive line, so I hadn't got indoctrinated or settled into one particular spot. Anyway, my junior year in college, I played right tackle. My senior year in college, I played left tackle, and then now I'm in the NFL, and I played left tackle my first couple years in the NFL, and then I played guard. I played center, and a lot of that was out of necessity, Like if I wanted to continue to have a job, I better learn how to snap the ball. If I want to continue to have a job, I better learn how to get set up quick and play a little bit more a noisier and physical game when you're playing at that guard position, because I wanted to continue to be in the NFL. And sometimes when guys have other options, you might not see them buy into playing different spots. Sometimes you'll see that happen a guy that you say, man, this guy could play right guard even though he's a left tackle. But maybe he doesn't want to play right guard because the right guard money is not what you get at left tackle. So you're not going to put your all into being the right guard. But if you say to yourself, hey, I'm not going to have a job if I don't play and put my all into being this right guard, then now at that point, you know you don't know exactly what the outcome is going to be if you do not put to that to that test per se. But it's very difficult to play multiple positions. It's very difficult because just imagine feeding yourself left handed, like if you're right handed, and just imagine that all of they tell you know you need to eat left handed for the rest of the rest of this month. It would be awkward as hell at first, but the more that you did it, you would be able to do it. But a start off with it's very difficult. And now imagine you start off doing that thing, but you're playing against one of the best one percenters in the world at what he does, but now you're having to do that new thing left handed or vice versus. So you can get exposed in situations like that. So it's not easy to do. There's not a lot of guys that do it at a high level. I'm the ones that are able to do it. They tend to last and the lead for a long time because it gives organizations flexibility for what they can do with you and how they can utilize you in a lineup. But I am a big proponent of finding a place where you fit the best and getting your ten thousand reps at that spot and becoming the best right guard or the best left guard or the best center, right tackle, whatever position it may be that you can be. And you might have those couple of guys on the roster of the two or three guys that have to be able to be the swing position guys, and they're practicing at all different spots. But I want to make this line great. And there's not that many great lines where there wasn't consistency at who was playing left tackle and who was playing left guard, and who's playing center, and so on and so forth. I've never seen the great line where you had guys starting at multiple spots every week and you kept on having lineup changes, because it's just not a realistic ask for somebody to be at their best when they're having to do it left handed or right handed, when they're playing against guys that are doing the stuff that they do the best. So it is very difficult, but sometimes you have to do it. But it's something that you don't want to major.

I think it's extremely difficult, and a lot of times it's predicated out of necessity. Like I was able to play a bunch of different positions because first of all, I came into the league only two years of playing offensive line, so I hadn't got indoctrinated or settled into one particular spot. Anyway, my junior year in college, I played right tackle. My senior year in college, I played left tackle, and then now I'm in the NFL, and I played left tackle my first couple years in the NFL, and then I played guard. I played center, and a lot of that was out of necessity, Like if I wanted to continue to have a job, I better learn how to snap the ball. If I want to continue to have a job, I better learn how to get set up quick and play a little bit more a noisier and physical game when you're playing at that guard position, because I wanted to continue to be in the NFL. And sometimes when guys have other options, you might not see them buy into playing different spots. Sometimes you'll see that happen a guy that you say, man, this guy could play right guard even though he's a left tackle. But maybe he doesn't want to play right guard because the right guard money is not what you get at left tackle. So you're not going to put your all into being the right guard. But if you say to yourself, hey, I'm not going to have a job if I don't play and put my all into being this right guard, then now at that point, you know you don't know exactly what the outcome is going to be if you do not put to that to that test per se. But it's very difficult to play multiple positions. It's very difficult because just imagine feeding yourself left handed, like if you're right handed, and just imagine that all of they tell you know you need to eat left handed for the rest of the rest of this month. It would be awkward as hell at first, but the more that you did it, you would be able to do it. But a start off with it's very difficult. And now imagine you start off doing that thing, but you're playing against one of the best one percenters in the world at what he does, but now you're having to do that new thing left handed or vice versus. So you can get exposed in situations like that. So it's not easy to do. There's not a lot of guys that do it at a high level. I'm the ones that are able to do it. They tend to last and the lead for a long time because it gives organizations flexibility for what they can do with you and how they can utilize you in a lineup. But I am a big proponent of finding a place where you fit the best and getting your ten thousand reps at that spot and becoming the best right guard or the best left guard or the best center, right tackle, whatever position it may be that you can be. And you might have those couple of guys on the roster of the two or three guys that have to be able to be the swing position guys, and they're practicing at all different spots. But I want to make this line great. And there's not that many great lines where there wasn't consistency at who was playing left tackle and who was playing left guard, and who's playing center, and so on and so forth. I've never seen the great line where you had guys starting at multiple spots every week and you kept on having lineup changes, because it's just not a realistic ask for somebody to be at their best when they're having to do it left handed or right handed, when they're playing against guys that are doing the stuff that they do the best. So it is very difficult, but sometimes you have to do it. But it's something that you don't want to major.

In Wade Smith, a member of the Texans Legends community, one of the best offensive linemen in franchise history, joining us in Wade when you had the great line twenty ten, twenty eleven, twenty twelve. When you had those lines, what was a common denominator or a few things you can share with us that is not necessarily a technical thing, but maybe a psychological thing. The togetherness the room, the meals, finding each other, the camaraderie. What went into that? How did that all work and how did that translate into playing well on the field.

In Wade Smith, a member of the Texans Legends community, one of the best offensive linemen in franchise history, joining us in Wade when you had the great line twenty ten, twenty eleven, twenty twelve. When you had those lines, what was a common denominator or a few things you can share with us that is not necessarily a technical thing, but maybe a psychological thing. The togetherness the room, the meals, finding each other, the camaraderie. What went into that? How did that all work and how did that translate into playing well on the field.

I think, first and foremost, we played the game with an edge. We played the game. We were very competitive amongst ourselves, like each other, and we're very competitive against the people that we are playing against. You know, I don't think this is legal anymore, but we had a we had a fine board, or we had a board basically like we collected money in each week. The person that had the most knockdowns got the pot. So you are competing each and every play that I'm going to put somebody on their back or put them on the ground, because for one, it's going to help us win this game, but two is gonna get me between our you know, our individual pot.

I think, first and foremost, we played the game with an edge. We played the game. We were very competitive amongst ourselves, like each other, and we're very competitive against the people that we are playing against. You know, I don't think this is legal anymore, but we had a we had a fine board, or we had a board basically like we collected money in each week. The person that had the most knockdowns got the pot. So you are competing each and every play that I'm going to put somebody on their back or put them on the ground, because for one, it's going to help us win this game, but two is gonna get me between our you know, our individual pot.

That was what we did in the offensive line room.

That was what we did in the offensive line room.

And so having that competitive nature of hey, this game, I had ten knockdowns. In this game, he had eleven knockdowns. You're looking to find work. You're trying to put guys on the ground. And if you're trying to put guys on the ground and you're trying to take shots, and you're playing the game with an edge that reflects in how they're going to play against you. They're they're gonna turn down contact. They're not gonna run that et game as aggressive as they are coached to do because they know they're gonna come out of that with the headache because the guard is looking them up and it's gonna run through their face. Like we had that mentality. We had a there's a term that I like to use, but I don't think I can use that term.

And so having that competitive nature of hey, this game, I had ten knockdowns. In this game, he had eleven knockdowns. You're looking to find work. You're trying to put guys on the ground. And if you're trying to put guys on the ground and you're trying to take shots, and you're playing the game with an edge that reflects in how they're going to play against you. They're they're gonna turn down contact. They're not gonna run that et game as aggressive as they are coached to do because they know they're gonna come out of that with the headache because the guard is looking them up and it's gonna run through their face. Like we had that mentality. We had a there's a term that I like to use, but I don't think I can use that term.

On Texans Radio.

On Texans Radio.

But I would just say that you need guys in the room that are are the nicest people off the field, but are are the people that you you want to walk with you in an alley on the field at three o'clock in the morning.

But I would just say that you need guys in the room that are are the nicest people off the field, but are are the people that you you want to walk with you in an alley on the field at three o'clock in the morning.

Those And that's what we had. We had a bunch of.

Those And that's what we had. We had a bunch of.

Guys Dee Brown, Meyers, Brisel Wedinsdaan Newton, all these different guys that were in the room that we were looking for work. We're trying to find a way to embarrass our opponent. We're trying to find a way to make them not want to play in the fourth quarter.

Guys Dee Brown, Meyers, Brisel Wedinsdaan Newton, all these different guys that were in the room that we were looking for work. We're trying to find a way to embarrass our opponent. We're trying to find a way to make them not want to play in the fourth quarter.

That's so fun.

That's so fun.

That's what that's what you have to get to now.

That's what that's what you have to get to now.

We we did all the other stuff, like you know, we went to Vegas every year at the end of the year with our five money. We we Thursdays, you know, we went out to eat, took our turns paying for the meals.

We we did all the other stuff, like you know, we went to Vegas every year at the end of the year with our five money. We we Thursdays, you know, we went out to eat, took our turns paying for the meals.

We really were a tight knit group.

We really were a tight knit group.

But when it came down to the get came down, when it came down to putting your hand in the dirt and playing football and getting after people, we enjoyed that.

But when it came down to the get came down, when it came down to putting your hand in the dirt and playing football and getting after people, we enjoyed that.

We looked forward to that.

We looked forward to that.

And so I think that's what you know, I look at the talent of last year's line. I thought last year's line was more talented than the line that I was there. It was more talented, but they didn't play the game the way they needed to be played. And I think that's why you're seeing some of the changes that are going on in their room to get those guys to play the game the way that it needs to be played. And so I think if you especially with the way that this offense is run and you know, the play action and the outside zone and gap stream and all the different stuff do all the different things that go on. As far as the technical aspects of it, you have to be all in with your mentality and have a kind of a by any means necessary look and feel and philosophy when you're on the field, Like, hey, by any means, we're in a situation where this protection. We know that if they run a certain thing against this protection, they're going to have us.

And so I think that's what you know, I look at the talent of last year's line. I thought last year's line was more talented than the line that I was there. It was more talented, but they didn't play the game the way they needed to be played. And I think that's why you're seeing some of the changes that are going on in their room to get those guys to play the game the way that it needs to be played. And so I think if you especially with the way that this offense is run and you know, the play action and the outside zone and gap stream and all the different stuff do all the different things that go on. As far as the technical aspects of it, you have to be all in with your mentality and have a kind of a by any means necessary look and feel and philosophy when you're on the field, Like, hey, by any means, we're in a situation where this protection. We know that if they run a certain thing against this protection, they're going to have us.

So, hey, sometimes you got to take two.

So, hey, sometimes you got to take two.

Like sometimes we know that we're short here, I'm gonna punch this guy and then I'm gonna get this other guy.

Like sometimes we know that we're short here, I'm gonna punch this guy and then I'm gonna get this other guy.

I'm just gonna take a hit off the quarterback.

I'm just gonna take a hit off the quarterback.

I'm gonna make sure that the guy behind me does not get touched, and I'll be willing to do whatever it takes to make sure that that doesn't happen. Now, it doesn't always, it's not always clean. Shabby got sacked a few times in his career. TJ got sacked. You know, the different guys got sacked and got hit. But for the most part, you saw guys straining. You saw guys taking shots and willing to not allow guys to take free runs at the quarterback. And that's the part that I think needs to improve, and those guys have total control over making that happen.

I'm gonna make sure that the guy behind me does not get touched, and I'll be willing to do whatever it takes to make sure that that doesn't happen. Now, it doesn't always, it's not always clean. Shabby got sacked a few times in his career. TJ got sacked. You know, the different guys got sacked and got hit. But for the most part, you saw guys straining. You saw guys taking shots and willing to not allow guys to take free runs at the quarterback. And that's the part that I think needs to improve, and those guys have total control over making that happen.

It's just a it's just a mentality and a philosophy.

It's just a it's just a mentality and a philosophy.

And I think that's what we had and I think that's what we need now.

And I think that's what we had and I think that's what we need now.

I think the g rated way of saying it the way it is Foxhole guys, now.

I think the g rated way of saying it the way it is Foxhole guys, now.

That that's that's extremely de rated.

That that's that's extremely de rated.

That's extremely grated.

That's extremely grated.

But that's kind of the way we got to go here, because you know, Mark and I can both go to the R rated. We knew exactly what you were talking about, but you made me different. Question kind of teed up in my brain. But then you brought up something right there at the end. You said, you know, Shaby got sacked, which, yeah, I mean every quarterback gets sacked. Me, Dan Marino, even though I had the quickest release ever, he got sacked.

But that's kind of the way we got to go here, because you know, Mark and I can both go to the R rated. We knew exactly what you were talking about, but you made me different. Question kind of teed up in my brain. But then you brought up something right there at the end. You said, you know, Shaby got sacked, which, yeah, I mean every quarterback gets sacked. Me, Dan Marino, even though I had the quickest release ever, he got sacked.

Everybody gets sacks.

Everybody gets sacks.

But I think one of the things about last year was the fact that CJ kept getting pressured on the same pressure or a similar pressure.

But I think one of the things about last year was the fact that CJ kept getting pressured on the same pressure or a similar pressure.

Week after week after week.

Week after week after week.

And so I'll ask you this, and I'm trying to figure the right way of saying this, but how important was it for you guys to take a look at something on film and go, hey, we haven't seen that before, whether it's some sort of twist or stunt or blitz, and figure it out and make sure it didn't happen again, whether it was later in that game, later in the season, that you just didn't get hurt on the same thing over and over again.

And so I'll ask you this, and I'm trying to figure the right way of saying this, but how important was it for you guys to take a look at something on film and go, hey, we haven't seen that before, whether it's some sort of twist or stunt or blitz, and figure it out and make sure it didn't happen again, whether it was later in that game, later in the season, that you just didn't get hurt on the same thing over and over again.

It was something that was just understood.

It was something that was just understood.

The way that the NFL works is if hey, if you're struggling handling TT games, they're gonna run TT games until you figure out how to stop it.

The way that the NFL works is if hey, if you're struggling handling TT games, they're gonna run TT games until you figure out how to stop it.

If you're having.

If you're having.

Trouble with the with the linebacker pick stunts where he's going to try to pick the tackle, he's gonna walk up in the odd front and walk up and try to.

Trouble with the with the linebacker pick stunts where he's going to try to pick the tackle, he's gonna walk up in the odd front and walk up and try to.

Pick the left tackle, and you're the left guard.

Pick the left tackle, and you're the left guard.

If you don't punch that guy and keep them off the tackle, and he gets to the to the tackles hip and gets up the field and makes uh, you know, get the pressure a hit on the quarterback. If I don't stop that, I know I'm gonna get that a thousand times. It's one of those things where you have to understand that no offense to the defense. But to me, they're they're not as complicated as what they could be. Those guys have gaps, they have rules, there's places they have to go. If they don't get to those places, they're gonna get cussed out on the sideline. So you know that and you use that against them. If this guy's walking up here and he's going to pressure this gap, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna put my hands on him in the most violent way as I can to keep them off of my tackle, and I'm gonna anticipate that the looper is gonna come around, and I'm gonna be sitting here waiting on them. And they're gonna do that two times and gonna say, Coach, that ain't working, and they're gonna try to do something else, and then it's gonna go back to basic stuff. But if you allow it to happen, they're gonna continue to do it over and over, and they're gonna take turns and they're gonna believe that they can get home. You have to stop those type of things before they get started, because the worst thing you can do is give a defensive lineman belief that they can get home, because that's that's seventy five percent of it. If I do this certain rush against this guy, I can get home. They're gonna believe they can do it more times than not. They're way more athletic than you. They have different advantages over you that you don't have, and so they're going to get home. But if you, if you stop it early or you adjust to it quickly, they're gonna try to do something else. And I do think that what I didn't see and what I need to see more of is is our front dictating to what they're doing over there, whether you're changing up your set. Like like d Brown and I when we played against the team that had that ran a lot of TV games, we had a call that we would make where I'm gonna let him know I'm finna jump this guy.

If you don't punch that guy and keep them off the tackle, and he gets to the to the tackles hip and gets up the field and makes uh, you know, get the pressure a hit on the quarterback. If I don't stop that, I know I'm gonna get that a thousand times. It's one of those things where you have to understand that no offense to the defense. But to me, they're they're not as complicated as what they could be. Those guys have gaps, they have rules, there's places they have to go. If they don't get to those places, they're gonna get cussed out on the sideline. So you know that and you use that against them. If this guy's walking up here and he's going to pressure this gap, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna put my hands on him in the most violent way as I can to keep them off of my tackle, and I'm gonna anticipate that the looper is gonna come around, and I'm gonna be sitting here waiting on them. And they're gonna do that two times and gonna say, Coach, that ain't working, and they're gonna try to do something else, and then it's gonna go back to basic stuff. But if you allow it to happen, they're gonna continue to do it over and over, and they're gonna take turns and they're gonna believe that they can get home. You have to stop those type of things before they get started, because the worst thing you can do is give a defensive lineman belief that they can get home, because that's that's seventy five percent of it. If I do this certain rush against this guy, I can get home. They're gonna believe they can do it more times than not. They're way more athletic than you. They have different advantages over you that you don't have, and so they're going to get home. But if you, if you stop it early or you adjust to it quickly, they're gonna try to do something else. And I do think that what I didn't see and what I need to see more of is is our front dictating to what they're doing over there, whether you're changing up your set. Like like d Brown and I when we played against the team that had that ran a lot of TV games, we had a call that we would make where I'm gonna let him know I'm finna jump this guy.

So if I jump this.

So if I jump this.

Guy and and we get on different levels, be ready to wrap behind me because I'm gonna stay with them. But I need you to rap behind because the top the defensive end might wrap and go inside.

Guy and and we get on different levels, be ready to wrap behind me because I'm gonna stay with them. But I need you to rap behind because the top the defensive end might wrap and go inside.

But I'm finna jump this guy. And if and if I jump.

But I'm finna jump this guy. And if and if I jump.

This guy and I get a good punch of him and push them off to you, and they're running a T game, then now it's easy. And if the defensive line doesn't know what you're going to do, then you force them to hesitate. If you force a defense to hesitate their beat, That's the great thing about being an offensive football player is you know where you're going, you know what you're trying to do, you know what you're trying to dictate. I just feel like that's that's something that they have to do. That's something that we did and and that and that allowed us to have a tremendous amount of success.

This guy and I get a good punch of him and push them off to you, and they're running a T game, then now it's easy. And if the defensive line doesn't know what you're going to do, then you force them to hesitate. If you force a defense to hesitate their beat, That's the great thing about being an offensive football player is you know where you're going, you know what you're trying to do, you know what you're trying to dictate. I just feel like that's that's something that they have to do. That's something that we did and and that and that allowed us to have a tremendous amount of success.

Wade Smith joining us on Texans Radio. Wade, when you came in to the Texans, Alex Gibbs was gone, but his influence was certainly there because the team started to make some big strides moving the football while he was here, and you had John Betten as an on line coach.

Wade Smith joining us on Texans Radio. Wade, when you came in to the Texans, Alex Gibbs was gone, but his influence was certainly there because the team started to make some big strides moving the football while he was here, and you had John Betten as an on line coach.

What about absorbing the system?

What about absorbing the system?

You were a veteran and obviously fit right in, and the numbers were outstanding when you joined the flow in that offensive line room. But what about picking up that system and working together. What did it take to get it coached right and executed properly on the field.

You were a veteran and obviously fit right in, and the numbers were outstanding when you joined the flow in that offensive line room. But what about picking up that system and working together. What did it take to get it coached right and executed properly on the field.

Well, the cool thing about the system is it's more about repetition. It's less about trying to trick anybody. It's trying to make everything look the same. It's trying to it's it's you're you have the opportunity to dictate to who you're to your opponent. And when I got here, the guys around me all knew what they were doing. I had some background in that scheme, but it wasn't as emphasized as what it was when I got here, and it fit right into what I did. But then the cool thing I think that was brought along with that that they hadn't been doing in the past when I got here was when Rico came Dennison.

Well, the cool thing about the system is it's more about repetition. It's less about trying to trick anybody. It's trying to make everything look the same. It's trying to it's it's you're you have the opportunity to dictate to who you're to your opponent. And when I got here, the guys around me all knew what they were doing. I had some background in that scheme, but it wasn't as emphasized as what it was when I got here, and it fit right into what I did. But then the cool thing I think that was brought along with that that they hadn't been doing in the past when I got here was when Rico came Dennison.

He liked to pull me a lot.

He liked to pull me a lot.

There was a lot of times where I'm pulling and leading on the other side of line scrimmage, running power and running pop out of the single back, and by doing that a three technique, the defensive tackle does not know what you're doing because it feels the same to start off with. You can start off a double team where the balls actually coming to him and it feels exactly the same as when we're running outside zone away from him, and if he tries to chase it on one then he's going to lose.

There was a lot of times where I'm pulling and leading on the other side of line scrimmage, running power and running pop out of the single back, and by doing that a three technique, the defensive tackle does not know what you're doing because it feels the same to start off with. You can start off a double team where the balls actually coming to him and it feels exactly the same as when we're running outside zone away from him, and if he tries to chase it on one then he's going to lose.

To the other.

To the other.

Or if he tries to slow play it on one, then he's going to lose to the other. And you have the ability to dictate what's going to happen each and every play. And so, like I said, like you said, I was a veteran guy when I got here. There was the cool thing about I think about what's going on with the Texans right now is there's a lot of people doubting what they can do and who they can be in the future. I will say this our thousand percent believe that when I signed my contract here, nobody thought that the Texans were going to lead the league in rushing in twenty ten. Nobody thought that we're gonna almost have two thousand yard rushers the following year in twenty eleven. Nobody thought we were going to go twelve and four in twenty twelve and have one of the best offensive lines in the league over that three year period. But these guys in the building now have the ability to make things like that happen. They have the pieces around them, and it's up to them to say, hey, people are doubting us. Cool, let me go run through somebody's face for sixty minutes and in the process will win a bunch of games will run for a bunch of yards. CJ Will be in the MVP conversation, and we'll go win the Super Bowl. They have that opportunity to make that happen. Each and every day in practice has got to be a sense of urgency of how you going to approach things, how physical you're going to play the game. Your defensive lineman shouldn't like you. Your teammates they shouldn't like you. Your opponents should not look forward to playing against you. One of my favorite things was when we played against I think it was Jacksonville, No, it was Tennessee, Tennessee back in the day. They came out of the paper said they didn't like playing against us because we're dirty players. And we did this and did that, Thank you very much. That's the most respectful thing that you can say to offensive lineman that you you don't like us, we're dirty and all that type of stuff.

Or if he tries to slow play it on one, then he's going to lose to the other. And you have the ability to dictate what's going to happen each and every play. And so, like I said, like you said, I was a veteran guy when I got here. There was the cool thing about I think about what's going on with the Texans right now is there's a lot of people doubting what they can do and who they can be in the future. I will say this our thousand percent believe that when I signed my contract here, nobody thought that the Texans were going to lead the league in rushing in twenty ten. Nobody thought that we're gonna almost have two thousand yard rushers the following year in twenty eleven. Nobody thought we were going to go twelve and four in twenty twelve and have one of the best offensive lines in the league over that three year period. But these guys in the building now have the ability to make things like that happen. They have the pieces around them, and it's up to them to say, hey, people are doubting us. Cool, let me go run through somebody's face for sixty minutes and in the process will win a bunch of games will run for a bunch of yards. CJ Will be in the MVP conversation, and we'll go win the Super Bowl. They have that opportunity to make that happen. Each and every day in practice has got to be a sense of urgency of how you going to approach things, how physical you're going to play the game. Your defensive lineman shouldn't like you. Your teammates they shouldn't like you. Your opponents should not look forward to playing against you. One of my favorite things was when we played against I think it was Jacksonville, No, it was Tennessee, Tennessee back in the day. They came out of the paper said they didn't like playing against us because we're dirty players. And we did this and did that, Thank you very much. That's the most respectful thing that you can say to offensive lineman that you you don't like us, we're dirty and all that type of stuff.

That's the mentality.

That's the mentality.

You think about what happened last year with the Texans defense. How many personal foul penalties did they get? Some of them that were warranted, some of them that were not warranted. But how many receivers do you think think about when they're crossing over the middle.

You think about what happened last year with the Texans defense. How many personal foul penalties did they get? Some of them that were warranted, some of them that were not warranted. But how many receivers do you think think about when they're crossing over the middle.

Should I catch this ball? How many guys because they know.

Should I catch this ball? How many guys because they know.

That those guys on the defensive side of the ball are gonna hunt the p trits, they gonna hunt. You got guys like Stingley, the getting paid out, the the wazudes. He gonna come downhill and hit you. You got linebackers disease. These guys are gonna run through your face. That's what we brought to the table as an offensive line as a group, and say we're gonna run through your face. These guys now can have that same mentality. Hey, we're gonna run through your face. We're gonna make you think about what we're going to do, Like I should. I know, Coach says, I'm supposed to I supposed to get to this guy's hip or get to his ear hole, whatever. But last time I did that, I had to take a couple of plays off because this.

That those guys on the defensive side of the ball are gonna hunt the p trits, they gonna hunt. You got guys like Stingley, the getting paid out, the the wazudes. He gonna come downhill and hit you. You got linebackers disease. These guys are gonna run through your face. That's what we brought to the table as an offensive line as a group, and say we're gonna run through your face. These guys now can have that same mentality. Hey, we're gonna run through your face. We're gonna make you think about what we're going to do, Like I should. I know, Coach says, I'm supposed to I supposed to get to this guy's hip or get to his ear hole, whatever. But last time I did that, I had to take a couple of plays off because this.

Dude just ran through my face.

Dude just ran through my face.

That's that's that's the type of stuff that we need on the offensive side of the ball, especially in the offensive line group. And that that was the most disappointing thing about last season because it was very rarely I could look at the tape and look at it and say like, yeah, those guys are playing the game the right way, but they have every opportunity to to to do that going forward. And I think the type of guys that they're bringing and that it's along that mentality like, hey, we gotta play this game a different way.

That's that's that's the type of stuff that we need on the offensive side of the ball, especially in the offensive line group. And that that was the most disappointing thing about last season because it was very rarely I could look at the tape and look at it and say like, yeah, those guys are playing the game the right way, but they have every opportunity to to to do that going forward. And I think the type of guys that they're bringing and that it's along that mentality like, hey, we gotta play this game a different way.

We got to approach you a different way.

We got to approach you a different way.

And it's like, if you don't want to play the game that way, that's fine, that's okay, but this is not the place for you because you have to reflect what the head coach wants to do.

And it's like, if you don't want to play the game that way, that's fine, that's okay, but this is not the place for you because you have to reflect what the head coach wants to do.

You know what I mean.

You know what I mean.

If you're playing for Bill Belichick, you cannot be a stupid football player. You have to be a very high football IQ guy that understands the game of football and doesn't make mental errors because he can't. He's not gonna play you just like you know, Tom Brady. He's not gonna throw you the ball if you're not running.

If you're playing for Bill Belichick, you cannot be a stupid football player. You have to be a very high football IQ guy that understands the game of football and doesn't make mental errors because he can't. He's not gonna play you just like you know, Tom Brady. He's not gonna throw you the ball if you're not running.

The right route.

The right route.

Well, the head coach for the Houston Texans, as a mentality, I'm gonna run through your face. I want guys that are going to play the game physical, that are are not going to take anything from anyone, and they're gonna play that game that way with an edge.

Well, the head coach for the Houston Texans, as a mentality, I'm gonna run through your face. I want guys that are going to play the game physical, that are are not going to take anything from anyone, and they're gonna play that game that way with an edge.

Well, that was not that.

Well, that was not that.

That's not what we got last year at the offensive line, and so that's got to change, and I.

That's not what we got last year at the offensive line, and so that's got to change, and I.

Think that has every opportunity to change.

Think that has every opportunity to change.

So hopefully that that is what takes place next year. And if that does happen, then you'll see how it translates with how many yards Joe Mixon gets in, how many yards uh CJ is able to throw for, and just all the receivers that are gonna be able to make plays like that that it all starts from what you're doing upfront.

So hopefully that that is what takes place next year. And if that does happen, then you'll see how it translates with how many yards Joe Mixon gets in, how many yards uh CJ is able to throw for, and just all the receivers that are gonna be able to make plays like that that it all starts from what you're doing upfront.

Wait, one, you mentioned when Rico came in, you guys ran a little bit more power pop rant, some more gap scheme type stuff, and it feels like the across the league they've gotten away from in a sense like you're one hundred percent zone run game, Like it's a little bit more blended. But we don't really know what Nick Kelly is going to bring offensively up front, but I would imagine it's gonna be a little bit of mix of zone and a little bit of mix of gap scheme stuff from an offensive lineman perspective.

Wait, one, you mentioned when Rico came in, you guys ran a little bit more power pop rant, some more gap scheme type stuff, and it feels like the across the league they've gotten away from in a sense like you're one hundred percent zone run game, Like it's a little bit more blended. But we don't really know what Nick Kelly is going to bring offensively up front, but I would imagine it's gonna be a little bit of mix of zone and a little bit of mix of gap scheme stuff from an offensive lineman perspective.

The you know, you can rip some Somebodi's.

The you know, you can rip some Somebodi's.

Face off in both schemes, but how important does it become to be able to have the right mentality to be able to flip back and forth while we're gonna run zone here because they're in this type of front, we can we think we can gash them here, Well, you know what, we kind of like to run down their throat with some gap scheme runs. How now as offensive linemen, and how did you kind of adapt to Okay, I gotta be able to kind of handle both as opposed to just be locked into one way of doing things.

Face off in both schemes, but how important does it become to be able to have the right mentality to be able to flip back and forth while we're gonna run zone here because they're in this type of front, we can we think we can gash them here, Well, you know what, we kind of like to run down their throat with some gap scheme runs. How now as offensive linemen, and how did you kind of adapt to Okay, I gotta be able to kind of handle both as opposed to just be locked into one way of doing things.

You know, I'm trying to think back, but I don't really know that many teams. It's like back in the day with like the Denver Broncos back in the day, back in the day when you're talking about the nineties where they're winning Super Bowls where they just exclusively ran outside zone, Like you're gonna run a combination of things. I do think that there are there are multiple schemes that can work together in conjunction. You can run duo, you can run inside zone, you can run outside zone, you can run wide zone, you can run hardpos, you can run a gap, you can run trap. There's all these different schemes that you can run. If you can make them look alike from the first three steps of a play the defensive shot. They can't. They're going to miss. The great thing about being a good running game is if you get two, and you get two, and you get twelve, and you can consistently do that, you can get one, you can get three, you can get twenty four.

You know, I'm trying to think back, but I don't really know that many teams. It's like back in the day with like the Denver Broncos back in the day, back in the day when you're talking about the nineties where they're winning Super Bowls where they just exclusively ran outside zone, Like you're gonna run a combination of things. I do think that there are there are multiple schemes that can work together in conjunction. You can run duo, you can run inside zone, you can run outside zone, you can run wide zone, you can run hardpos, you can run a gap, you can run trap. There's all these different schemes that you can run. If you can make them look alike from the first three steps of a play the defensive shot. They can't. They're going to miss. The great thing about being a good running game is if you get two, and you get two, and you get twelve, and you can consistently do that, you can get one, you can get three, you can get twenty four.

They can only guess right so many times.

They can only guess right so many times.

But if you can make everything look the same, if you can come off the ball with a sense of urgency and dictate to who you're going against, you're going to have success running running the football. And if you can learn how to as a player marry these things up and see where you put the defense in the buying with these various schemes, then you.

But if you can make everything look the same, if you can come off the ball with a sense of urgency and dictate to who you're going against, you're going to have success running running the football. And if you can learn how to as a player marry these things up and see where you put the defense in the buying with these various schemes, then you.

Can take advantage of that.

Can take advantage of that.

Now, the most important thing is making sure that you have an offensive coordinator you mentioned Kaylee, is having an offensive coordinator that understands how these things work together and that will call them in a manner to where you can play that game within the game against your opponent. Like I said, if you're playing against a three technique and you have a team that runs outside zone and you run inside zone and you run gap trap, he can't be right if you're consistently running the football and you're coming off the ball, and it feels the same for the first couple of steps between the different play calls.

Now, the most important thing is making sure that you have an offensive coordinator you mentioned Kaylee, is having an offensive coordinator that understands how these things work together and that will call them in a manner to where you can play that game within the game against your opponent. Like I said, if you're playing against a three technique and you have a team that runs outside zone and you run inside zone and you run gap trap, he can't be right if you're consistently running the football and you're coming off the ball, and it feels the same for the first couple of steps between the different play calls.

He can't be right, and he's.

He can't be right, and he's.

Gonna be wrong enough times to where you're gonna gash him. They're gonna start hesitating, and then everything becomes easier once you get a team to having to read and react. Now things become easier for you to dictate to your opponent. So I think that's part of being a pro is hey, studying your craft, watching film, evaluating your opponents, all these type of things of what you are, what you have to do, your task to do to be successful at your position, especially if you're not six eight, three hundred and forty pounds that could just walk off the ball and move guys, And that's what That's not what the Texans had when I was there, and that's not what they have now where they just got guys. You're just gonna walk off the ball and mall guys. You're gonna have to figure out ways to dictate to your opponent and put the advantage back in your favor. And so I think that's part of it. You're gonna have to have guys in the room that are willing to put in that work on the field in the meeting room and making sure they're making great decisions off the field and playing the game with that mentality in order to have a tremendous amount of success.

Gonna be wrong enough times to where you're gonna gash him. They're gonna start hesitating, and then everything becomes easier once you get a team to having to read and react. Now things become easier for you to dictate to your opponent. So I think that's part of being a pro is hey, studying your craft, watching film, evaluating your opponents, all these type of things of what you are, what you have to do, your task to do to be successful at your position, especially if you're not six eight, three hundred and forty pounds that could just walk off the ball and move guys, And that's what That's not what the Texans had when I was there, and that's not what they have now where they just got guys. You're just gonna walk off the ball and mall guys. You're gonna have to figure out ways to dictate to your opponent and put the advantage back in your favor. And so I think that's part of it. You're gonna have to have guys in the room that are willing to put in that work on the field in the meeting room and making sure they're making great decisions off the field and playing the game with that mentality in order to have a tremendous amount of success.

Such outstanding stuff. Wade, Hey, tell us about what's going on with your efforts with literacy. I know it's very important to you and you've done a lot of work with the Texans and on your own as well. What's the latest what you share with us?

Such outstanding stuff. Wade, Hey, tell us about what's going on with your efforts with literacy. I know it's very important to you and you've done a lot of work with the Texans and on your own as well. What's the latest what you share with us?

And great question.

And great question.

So, actually, right now we're in the middle of a partnership between the Wastin Foundation, the Houston Texans, and Kroger. We're doing our reading with the pros Chilter Literacy Program at four elementary schools.

So, actually, right now we're in the middle of a partnership between the Wastin Foundation, the Houston Texans, and Kroger. We're doing our reading with the pros Chilter Literacy Program at four elementary schools.

Here in hisd. So we started that.

Here in hisd. So we started that.

In September and so we did two schools in Sunnyside area of Houston for that semester, and then now this semester we're in Magnolia Park at two elementary schools. We were at Law and Mating Elementary School and in Sunnyside, and now this spring we're in Tierina and Henderson Elementary.

In September and so we did two schools in Sunnyside area of Houston for that semester, and then now this semester we're in Magnolia Park at two elementary schools. We were at Law and Mating Elementary School and in Sunnyside, and now this spring we're in Tierina and Henderson Elementary.

Schools and we're going back.

Schools and we're going back.

We're going to each school every Tuesday and reading to the second graders there.

We're going to each school every Tuesday and reading to the second graders there.

You know, we have our kickoff celebration that we just actually did yesterday.

You know, we have our kickoff celebration that we just actually did yesterday.

Where we we're doing a literacy contest, reading contests really challenged between the schools and donating reading corners, just getting kids excited about reading. The Reading program been doing it since twenty twelve when I was still playing with the Texans, and we've had pretty much you name it, any notable Houston Texans player that are former Now we've had current color guys that come now participate in the program, and so we're excited to be able to officially partner with the Texans to do that. And I'm just excited to continue to give back to the city of Houston. It's the place where I've made my home, a lot of former guys made their home, and so it's just our way of giving back in my way of giving back to the city that's shown my family and showing us so much love over the years.

Where we we're doing a literacy contest, reading contests really challenged between the schools and donating reading corners, just getting kids excited about reading. The Reading program been doing it since twenty twelve when I was still playing with the Texans, and we've had pretty much you name it, any notable Houston Texans player that are former Now we've had current color guys that come now participate in the program, and so we're excited to be able to officially partner with the Texans to do that. And I'm just excited to continue to give back to the city of Houston. It's the place where I've made my home, a lot of former guys made their home, and so it's just our way of giving back in my way of giving back to the city that's shown my family and showing us so much love over the years.

Wade Outstanding, Thanks so so much for everything you do in the community and for the Houston Texans Foundation and the Wade Smith Foundation. Great and great football stuff. Thanks so much for joining us today.

Wade Outstanding, Thanks so so much for everything you do in the community and for the Houston Texans Foundation and the Wade Smith Foundation. Great and great football stuff. Thanks so much for joining us today.

It's always real fell us.

It's always real fell us.

All right, there's Wade Smith long segment, great segment, another one coming your way as we talk about the news of the day, and then some it's Texans Radio.

All right, there's Wade Smith long segment, great segment, another one coming your way as we talk about the news of the day, and then some it's Texans Radio.

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Great to have you listening tonight to Texans Radio. Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you in thest of March Madness. And not that Johnny and I were semi binge watching some of it today, but we were because you know, it's March madness.

Great to have you listening tonight to Texans Radio. Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you in thest of March Madness. And not that Johnny and I were semi binge watching some of it today, but we were because you know, it's March madness.

I mean, what are you gonna do. We're here in studio, We've got a lot of things going on.

I mean, what are you gonna do. We're here in studio, We've got a lot of things going on.

Yeah, this is what you everybody wherever you are, you work at a Forbes five hundred company or Fortune five hundred company, like, you're gonna watch March Madness.

Yeah, this is what you everybody wherever you are, you work at a Forbes five hundred company or Fortune five hundred company, like, you're gonna watch March Madness.

And here's the thing. You can watch it in so many different ways.

And here's the thing. You can watch it in so many different ways.

Now, Oh yeah, you well you watch your computer with you know, streaming service like I like, that's what you do all the time.

Now, Oh yeah, you well you watch your computer with you know, streaming service like I like, that's what you do all the time.

That's with a huge flat screen in front of you. I come in here sometimes from upstairs and I hear you're watching a game or whatever you're watching. Usually it's football talking to the game, but yeah, you're watching and then I'm like, well, we do have a TV in here too. We got a monitor that gets all sorts of stuff.

That's with a huge flat screen in front of you. I come in here sometimes from upstairs and I hear you're watching a game or whatever you're watching. Usually it's football talking to the game, but yeah, you're watching and then I'm like, well, we do have a TV in here too. We got a monitor that gets all sorts of stuff.

When I remember back when you were at Miami, so this is the late nineteen nineteen nineties.

When I remember back when you were at Miami, so this is the late nineteen nineteen nineties.

Early two thousands.

Early two thousands.

I remember, I believe it was called I want to say broadcast dot Com, but it was Mark Cubans and Radio Service, right. So at that time, you could only get one game on CBS. That's all you could get. Was one game on CBS. That was all you could get. But on this new thing called the Internet, you could end up getting no, you could get the radio broadcast of various games. Cool, and it was cool as hell. And then a few years later I ended up getting I ended up getting I can't remember what it was called, but I got this device where I could get all the satellite stations, and I forgot what it was called, but I'll never forget. I was listening and I was I was flipping through different games on the radio because I was driving, and all of a sudden, it came across this game and.

I remember, I believe it was called I want to say broadcast dot Com, but it was Mark Cubans and Radio Service, right. So at that time, you could only get one game on CBS. That's all you could get. Was one game on CBS. That was all you could get. But on this new thing called the Internet, you could end up getting no, you could get the radio broadcast of various games. Cool, and it was cool as hell. And then a few years later I ended up getting I ended up getting I can't remember what it was called, but I got this device where I could get all the satellite stations, and I forgot what it was called, but I'll never forget. I was listening and I was I was flipping through different games on the radio because I was driving, and all of a sudden, it came across this game and.

I'm like, God, the voice sounds familiar.

I'm like, God, the voice sounds familiar.

I pulled into a Blockbuster and I sat there for like five to never forget it, Like five to seven minutes and then I hear smart vandam Mar you listen to wes Wood. I was like, I thought that was your voice.

I pulled into a Blockbuster and I sat there for like five to never forget it, Like five to seven minutes and then I hear smart vandam Mar you listen to wes Wood. I was like, I thought that was your voice.

What was the game? I can't remember the game, but.

What was the game? I can't remember the game, but.

It really it was like, yeah, it was like four h five maybe yeah, because I'm when I did it for a few years back then and I.

It really it was like, yeah, it was like four h five maybe yeah, because I'm when I did it for a few years back then and I.

And I remember hearing the void.

And I remember hearing the void.

I was like, and so I continue to sit but I had I can't remember with that little devicess called like it was like XM radio or something. I can't remember what that was, but it gave me all the different sale stations, so I could just kind of go back, you'll go back through and so I was listening to different games, and so I got on that one and I heard your voice, Colin a Westwood one n C double A game.