Special Guest Mark Wills Talks About New EP + The Hit Song He Passed On

Published Feb 13, 2023, 6:41 AM

Mark Wills came on the podcast to talk about his new EP that just came out, his songs that were also recorded by other artists and if he had any songs that he passed on that later became hits.  Mark also shares how many times he's played the Opry and you won't believe the number.  You can follow Mark on all social media at: @MarkWillsMusic.  (And it will have a blue check mark next to it!)

What if he's going to call in time? Hey, Sammy, good to see you. Good to see you. This is good. I love your hat. Laney's dump truck services. Do I dare ask? Is that Laney Wilson's hat. It was a gift, but it is. Yeah, I mean we're we're celebrating her dump truck. Now, dump truck is coming to you from the Glasshouse Studios in Nashville to the sea. This is topic check. Now here's your host? Oh yeah, so good? Energy? Is energy is bumping in here? Yeah? You know. Somebody's calling. Somebody's calling? Who is it? Is it? How do we are they on? Really hope this works? Oh my gosh, okay, is he on to accept pres one? Except except one? Except preth one? Press one? I got it? I got it one? Did you accept it? That didn't sound like a good noise? It sounded like a goodbye. Why did it go to my phone? Oh my gosh, hold on Red. Tell him to do it again. Oh my gosh, we have a special guest calling. In the fact that he's doing this for us, I appreciate it. Tell him to do it again. Yeah, all right, sorry, call again. I'm I'm texting him right now sorry, call again. I took my call forwarding off because I went to my phone. That's why. All right here you govous. I'm nervous too, because we've been practiced this before. What do you know what we've done? Here we go, Here we go, here we go, here we go. Hello, hold to accept, Press one to send a voicemail, Press two? How do we accept it? Come on? Bro? Oh did you do that? Don't don't don't come on bro, ma on there it is. Yeah, all right, we have the one, the only Mark Wills on the phone. Only took a thirty minutes. Thirty minutes to figure this thing out. Well, you're probably walking around Disney World right now anyway, you're living the life, living the dream. No, that's tomorrow. Tomorrow. It never. You and Jimmy Allen are the two people in my life that I love more than anything, because you have a love for the mouse. Well, you know, so I'm going down to UH to do a little work uh with the competitor of the mouth, then uh and and then going over and UH and hanging out with the mouth for a couple of days. So the little boy is already there, and the daughter is already there, and her husband is already there a sun law, so I could not. There's no way in under the son that I could resist the temptation. When my oldest daughter says, Dad, you know we're gonna be in Florida, that's all I have to say. Yeah, You're like, all right, sweet, I'll meet you at the castle. Exactly. Well, actually the way that works, the way it works now is the way the way it used to work is we'd have to pack the truck, a pack the bus or whatever we were taking and all that kind of stuff. And uh and now we have gotten spoiled on that. Uh we are like, look, your kids, go ahead and drive down there, and Mom and I are just gonna get on a delta plane in the morning to be there an hour and five minutes it because you don't now you live some people would think you live in Nashville, Tennessee, but you do not. You live in Georgia. I do not. I live north of Atlanta. Uh, kind of halfway between Atlanta and Blue Ridge. So uh so yeah, so I'm I'm up there and uh and you know kind of go back and forth and and and it makes it easy living here because I mean, you know, with Delta Airlines and being one of the largest airports in the world, you can pretty much kiss anywhere you want to go in uh in one jump, Well you got you gotta close. Well it's it's only you know, it's only a little over three and a half, about three and a half hours to drive to Nashville from where I live, and so you know, if I need to be there quickly, I can get there. Um. I try to, you know, I try to back back when we were young whipper snappers and uh in life was you know, he's talking about a Mark the abbey and Sam he are here with me, and they're not young there they are young whipper snappers. We are not youngper keep okay, listen. I so so one of the one of the parts of being an old man is that you can just go how old are y'all? True? Oh? Oh, we're thirty two. I don't know where you asking us? Are you saying? Yes? Of course I was asking you? So thirty two? Okay. So so you have you've grown up in a world where, you know, from the time you were a little there was internet, and there was I see in lines, and there was all of that kind of stuff. You could you could basically sound like you were anywhere in the world. Uh, you know, and and back in back in the day, you know, before all of that technology came along. Uh you know, if I had to be in Nashville quickly, there's only there's only three hours, so you know, I can get up there, uh in you know, in pretty quick fashion. And now you know, now since you know the world shut down in and all that sort of stuff, I basically built in the house with you know, cameras and all that kind of stuff, and I can be anywhere that I need to be. So that's that's why I wanted to talk to you, Mark, because I follow you on Instagram at Mark Wills, and you know you have that's the only one that's real. By the I'm checking music music at Mark Wills music. Don't get twisted. He's got fakers, ladies. He's got a lot of fakers out there, and he gets piste off. Oh my god, dude, we literally we have shut down. We have shut down. We've shut down twenty five of them this week. Why no way, Why why did they do that? I don't get it. Why would you want to act like yours? I can tell I can tell you why. I can tell you why what they do and and we've learned this and and a roundabout way. I actually I actually posted it on my story. The other night. I spent one of the fakers a a message and I said, why do you spam people? Why? Why do you do this? Why do you spam people? In my name? And I swear to God they responded and they said, because I have no money, will you send me cash app? And I was like, no, they asked you and your cash app? Yeah, the firston ever tending to be Yeah, they asked me to send them money on their cash app and they would stop doing it. So instead I just screenshot at it and posted it and I was like, look, I've been telling you all for several years now that these people are doing this crap, and so if you continue to accept their friend requests and message them and all that kind of stuff, it's on you, you know. I I don't know how, I don't know how much. Mark you should have said, listen, I'll give you some money if you show me pictures of your feet, you know, make them earn it, make him learn it. Mark. You're you're being too nice, you know, to let them off out of all the things. Well, here's here's the Here's the sad part is that here's the sad part is that throughout our time, we have had people that sent us, uh screenshots of fake accounts that we're asking for sures not a feat and and stuff, you know, and and people think that they're talking to me, and so they run scams like, hey, you know, I'm I'm working on a new album. Would you like to financially invest in an album? You know? And people are like, yeah, you know, we've been fans for years, and they would say, okay, you know, send us a send us a hundred dollar a gift card. People think a hundred dollar gift card, it's gonna help, It's gonna help pay for an album. But but you know, there's there's a part of you that, let me rephrase that, there's a part of me that's eternally grateful two fans that would want to support you. However, I have never, one time in my life reached out to you know, through my fan club or two people that follow me on social media and ask them to do anything other than listen to the music or go support the music or you know, buy the record. Off of things, or go to the stores and buy the record, you know that kind of stuff. I mean, because that's that's how we you know, that's how we make our living. You know. I I tell people all the time, come to the you know, come to the concert. Uh you know, come, come buy a T shirt or something like that. If you want to support us, That's how you support us, not by not by falling for some scam on the internet where you know where you think you're you know, sending me a hundred dollar Google gift card at mark whatever at Mark Wells Music. That's why we're calling you today is because I saw something at Mark Wells Music that you were playing some of the songs. You're playing some of these songs that that we all love. And then you have so you have you're working on something and I was like, what exactly are you working on? And you're like, oh, it's a playlist and I'm doing this and that. So what is it? So how can people listen to the music you're doing now and you're creating now? Well, okay, so let's let's revert back back in the day. Uh, you know when when before there was digital or before there were streaming platforms and all that kind of stuff. My career kind of hit, I can't. We're kind of hit in a in a timeframe where it was sort of the decline of the physical music stores. You know, I either Walmart, uh, you know, all the Walmart music department and all that kind of stuff was sort of starting to head down heel and and it's pre date the streaming platforms. So a lot of people, you know, know the songs from the radio, They know the songs from you know, from hearing them, but don't necessarily put two and two together as to who it is or you know, or the catalogs. And so we decided a few months ago two sort of go back into our universal uh catalogs and make some playlists for some of today's fans, some of the younger fans two sort of rediscover maybe some of the music that they hadn't heard before. You know, everybody, if you're a country music fan, you've heard nineteen something, You've heard I do cherish you you've heard don't laugh, I mean, you've heard Wish you were here. You've heard you know, the singles and all that kind of stuff. But there's a whole lot of music out there that you know that that our a D D um our a D D group of people. People. This is the whole podcast right now. I'm with you. You should rename the podcast, but the podcast. But yeah, but you know, but for for some of the kids that some of the kids that you know that listen to you know, the first five seconds or something and then go to something else, it was a way to sort of put some of that music back in front of them that maybe they had never heard. Uh. And some of those songs were actually big hit records for other artists. Were we showed pas this past week the showcase Somebody which I recorded and uh and never you know, and we never released it as a single, and then you know, a year or so later, Free Mike and Tire recorded it and it was the number one record for her, you know. And we could do the same thing with What Hurts the Most, which was a song of mine. Um, Jeffery still wrote that song and we recorded it and then hold on, wait what back up? Back up back recording that mark back up? You recorded What Hurts the Most? Yeah, I recorded it first. It was my song. No shit, this is amazing, this is I thought I knew everything about you. I know nothing about you. That's one of the I mean, what's the wait a minute, you recorded it. You're a ten and a half solid, right, that's very on a half eleven. Yeah, it depends on the boot. He's probably a D when it comes to boots. He's a ten and a half D. Okay, it doesn't Well, you're you're right. See I can tell this is the way you walk. You walk with the limp, so I can tell you're packing alright. So Sammy happy and save here, Like, what in the hell is going on? Okay, this is amazing news? So what hurts the most? Are you going to release your version of that? Did you? My? It was on it was on the record, and uh and what happened. What happened there was was in a in a previous regime at Universal Music Group before it was Universal Music Group and was Mercury Records. Uh, we had parted ways with Mercury and uh, and there was a push two release that song. Either I don't remember the exact detail. I don't remember if it was to release that song right before we left or right after we left. And uh, and of course I did not support that one. I owed it because it was like, look, guys, you you you know you said you don't want to do business with me anymore. I'm sure as hell I'm not going to sign up to release another project with you at this point in time. Um, and so Gary and I. Gary and I had talked and he was like, dude, what are you going to do with that song? When you say get a box? And I was like, dude, you you guys should record it and put that out and they did. It was amazing and the rest of it that's guys, go back and listen to it. I feel like, this is news, this is news news, this is worth news. Well it's it's not news news. It's not news news because I mean, and so often in our world. I mean, if you go back to go back to the sixth seasons, seventies, you know, back before, back before there was you know, instant gratification music wise, And what I mean by that is you couldn't go on couldn't go on the internet and just pull up and type of the song title and find that title from you know, thirty different artists. You had songs that were recorded by multiple artists at the same time, and you know, and and Johnny Cash might have been the one to put it out first, or you know, or it was written by Chris Christofferson. He had his version, and you had a Johnny Cash version, you had a Gatlin Brothers version, you had you know songs. That's kind of the way it went down. I didn't know Mark. I didn't know that, um Tennessee whist I don't forgive me for being a country music fan and not knowing this, but I didn't know Tennessee whiskey was saying by two other people, including George Jones before Chris Stapleton. Well, yeah it was, and that was and I don't remember who wrote it, but it was. I believe it is originally a uh, you don't have to tell me, Darlin, Darlin, I just want to bring dead to his name. Come on, come on, see leet that was me. Chuck took this thunder there. But is David allen co Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see a lot of people don't know that you know, and and and that's the and that right there is a great example of how great songs Kennel live multiple lives, you know. I mean, if you heard David allen Coe's version of the song, and then you heard George Jones version of the song, and then you heard Stapleson's version of the song. Stapless version of the song is nothing. It's not it's not reminiscent at all of those two other versions of the song. Yeah, it's it's a very bluesy version. Well you know, That's what I mean. That's what I was saying, is that if you if you had only heard the Jones version for the co version, and then you heard that song, you'd be like, yeah, it's not even similar. And that's the I truly believe. I truly believe that's the That's a beautiful thing about great music and country music for so long, for as long as I've been around. That's to me, that's the state, the stapling fact of country music. There's always based upon a song. So I'm based upon a great music and uh, you know, and when you when you have great songs like that, they will live multiple lives. Did you ever lose out on a song like now that we've learned about what hurts the most, I felt like we've lost out on that song. But have you ever lost out on other songs that were like giant hits? You're like, damn it, I should have recorded that. Yeah, I can, I can. I can tell you one and I can, And I told the story on Uh, I told the story is not too long ago on a Tracy Lawrence's show. But I'll but I'll tell you. Um. A parent of my named Tony Martin. Tony Martin wrote Jacob Sladder and he wrote places I've Never been, and he wrote Baby's Gotten gotta Goodbye to George Straight and he wrote, I mean, he's just written a ton a ton of songs. And so I used to sing demos back in uh, you know, back in the early early nineties. I would come to Nashville and sing songs for Tony, and he and Martin Nessler wrote just a full ethera tunes together and they still continue to write, you know, great songs to this day. Well, we got a phone call one day. Tony and I had spent a little bit of time out in Phoenix, Arizona. We would go on golf trips. We would go out and play golf and and and have songwriting sessions out there. Well, so a song that George Strait recorded that um that I was sort of in a roundabout way, uh involved with it was a song called the difference than living and living well. And that conversation came because we were we were looking at how was this on the golf course and I said, you know, one day I'm gonna buy a house out here. And then we get to one of the other sides of the golf course at a gray Hawk, and I said, no, you know, I actually maybe I'll move over here, and Tony goes, well, you know, there's a difference in living and living well. And then he came back to Nashville and him and Martin Nessler wrote that song and uh so, so fast forward a couple of years. I'm driving down the road, right. He called me one day and he goes, man, we've written this song and I'm gonna send it to you. And he send me this tune and I listened to it and I'm like, man, I just I don't hear that for me. And he was like, are you are you sure? And I said yeah, I said, I just don't hear that from me. And so, uh they went into the studio and they recorded a demo of it and they sent it to me and I still didn't hear it for me. And uh, fast forward about six months, maybe eight months and I'm sitting there and I'm driving down a road and I hear the song come on the radio, and it was like, I was like, holy crap, I passed on the phone. But Abby's flipping her lid right now. You just sing that, right, you have a guitar with you, and you just saying that, Yes, he did well, I just picked the I just picked the guitar up. Yeah, I just take the guitar up. And he's driving down the street right now. He's just like, hold on one a second. He's got one knee on the wheel. Is yeah, Abby, Jesus sorry, It's it's Abbey's fine. It's fine. So now but now you look back, you're like ship. I definitely heard that for myself. Actually when you when when we just heard you singing, it sounds fantastic. Actually, No, that's the no, that was the kind of thing. See, I've always I've always tried throughout my career. I've always tried to find songs that's like sort of fit where I was at that point or or where I was, you know, I've always tried the right songs about where I was at that point, or or find great songs and so at that at that time in my life, that song, it wasn't something that really struck me. And so therefore, yeah, I look back on it and I think, man, that could have been a huge Mark Will's hits. But then again, it might not have been. It might have just been one of those songs that that I recorded that we ended up. You know that back in you know, back in the day, you didn't get instant fan reaction. You didn't get instant fans interaction with music. You you recorded the record, you put the record together, and then the record company decided what they were going to make the first single, and so they put the first single out and it could be a big hit. It could be, it could not be a big kid. Um prime example of that was the greatest Hits record when when they when when we recorded that, we didn't have nineteen something until Will a couple of days before we went into the studio and we recorded nineteen something and we recorded a song called when You Think Of Me, and the record company was jumping up and down that we should release when You Think of Me, and I was like, you guys have lost your mind. Nineteen something is a smash and you know, and they were sort of like, yeah, but you're not known for for singing up tempo song. And when you think of me, is a beautiful it's an awesome song when you know, I mean, it's just a it's a great song. Uh. And it's and it's truly like one of those great Mark Will's type ballads. But but I was tired of fighting that uphill battle of always trying to have an up tempo song. So basically I went to, uh, the Atlanta radio station here in Atlanta, and which you know was Why I want to six at the time, and and kicks one on one five and I was like, look, just just played this a couple of times and see what people think of it. And uh, and then kicks one on one in Atlanta, Why I want to six in Atlanta and in US one on one in Chattanooga, Tennessee, where the station that broke nineteen something, and you know, and and and you know then in hindsight and you look look at it and from you know, from being here now to where we were, and it was it spent seven consecutive weeks at number one was the most play and then went back to the number one position. It was the most played song of the year. Yeah, most played song of the year, and it was the number two played song of the decade. That's crazy. That's crazy. And and uh, when you say that, because this is interesting to me, when you say you went to these three different radio stations, you're like, Hey, as the artist, you're like, hey, why don't you just spend this a couple of times because at the time, what label were you on during nineteen something Mercury, So you probably beat your label to the punch of trying to break something because normally they would do that. I beat my label to the punch because they weren't. They didn't want that as a single. They wanted, uh, they wanted the other song. They wanted when you think of Me to be the first single. Yeah, so you're like, I believe wholeheartedly. I believe wholeheartedly the nineteen something was going to be huge, And uh, you won that battle and so won that battle. And then at the same time had to kind of had to be like, I'm so glad that y'all had faith in the side. Man. You guys are the best man way to really stick with it and really push me to go out there with nineteen something. Yeah, it was it was a slightly better time in my life. I'm gonna see No, it worked out for you, all right, So listen, here's the deal. Mark. I'm not gonna keep you. So I have one more question before we let you go. Hold on, hold on, Abby's got a question. I have a question to after him. Now you go, first, first year? Okay, how many times have you played the Opery? I feel like you've played it more than you can count, right, I have probably three hundred undred and thirty something times. I feel like every time I go there, you were playing that night. I don't know if it's just like coincidence. Well, I what I tried to do is, after becoming an Opering member, any time that I'm going to be in town, I give them availability so that if they you know, if and they'll they'll book me on something uh way ahead of time. Like we know we've already got some dates in March, and we know we've got some dates coming up later on the year that that you know that we haven't nounced yet. But what I try to do is is what I'm going to be in town, I try to let them know just in case they need somebody to fill a spot or something like that. Do you have to sign a contracts as a member? No, you don't have to sign a contract. No, sorry, I know it's it's where over the phone. We're a little delayed. But do you have to sign it? Like, because this is what I've heard, UM, because I'm not a member of shockingly um, is that you have if you're a member, you have to play it like once a month. Well back in the days, back in the day, like in the fifties and sixties, maybe even in the seventies. UM. They asked all of the members to try to do to dedicate one weekend to playing the opera. And as and as the opera has grown, as the as the ability to get music out there, you have to you have to almost go back and do a history lesson on the opry and on what the how the opery was built. The opery was built off of the v SMS transmitter on the A M side of being able to broadcast literally to half of the continental United States. So it was an easy way back before social media, back before uh, you know, really television or anything else. It was a way of getting your music out to literally pass the country. And so what you know, what the Opery would would ask of their members is that they would ask them to give them one Saturday night a month and the other you know thirty one, you know, thirty days or however many days they you know, they would play the opry and that would you know, broadcast them from Tennessee to Georgia, to Florida, to Arkansas, the Oklahoma to parts of Texas to you know, Illinois, to you know, all over the place. He gave those artists the opportunities to get their music out there, uh to where they could tour. That makes sense. That is so cool. I can't imagine you're just getting your availability. Well I can come this night and tomorrow night. Yeah. Well you know, you know, well what I try to do, Like pri prime example for that is like I know that I'm going to be up there in Nashville doing something, uh in in March, and so I told him, I was like, Hey, look I'm gonna be here on this day doing this event, and so if you need somebody for that weekend, I'll be more than happy to say And they're like, absolutely, we would love that, you know, So so they book you know, that's that's kind of how they book it. Hello, all right, Mark, I told you I I texted you and I was like, hey, we just need you for fifteen minutes. We kept you for thirty so I appreciate your time. So the last question I had was okay, because because really, all I have to do tonight, all I have to do tonight is to go to the Carry under which, oh my god, that's all. Oh you're gonna go of course Underwood. And she's with Jimmy Allen. So maybe you and Jimmy should go to Disney World together. No, see, Jimmy will have to be somewhere else tomorrow, and I and I will be in Disney World tomorrow. And I so I think probably what I'll end up doing tomorrow and I is taking a picture of me standing in front of the castle and sending it to Carry and Jimmy at the same time. I'm going to play That's right, and and we'll look for it on your Instagram, which is at Mark Will's Music Blue check Mark. Yeah, all of my social media platforms, go ahead and put that out there to your podcast, all social media platforms you know at Mark Will's Music, except for except for my website. And that's just Mark Wills. Okay, all right, you know, you know this is when you know what. Well, my question was who is the competitor? I think I know the answer. But you said you're playing for a show for the competitor of Disney World. So I'm guessing that's universal. I'm not. No, I said I was. I said I was going to do a little work. Oh okay, I feel like I feel like this is like a secret job you're on. We do a lot of stuff with Florida. Okay, No, well, you know, I mean I might be I might work for the CIA, but then again I probably don't, so you know, I actually this is so, this is how Mark and I have really got to We obviously we know each other as artists, but we became really good friends. I think through our love for the outdoors and uh like Rocky Mail now Foundation Hunting. We did some shows together there like and uh. I have found out that Mark, you are a true marksman and big supporter of the military. So it would not surprise me if you were in some kind of Camo gear right now ready to kick down some doors. Actually, right now, right now, I am in great sweat pants, a black Bucky uh like shirt, and my five eleven and tennesseet so I would hate to disappoint you, but no, I have no cameo on right now. Hashtag dad life. There are five, there are five. They're not within like, Okay, that's fair, that's fair, all right, Mark Wells, we love you. At Mark Wells Music, half fun down there, half fun at Disney World, we love you. We're gonna check out the new music I've minded scare go check out. Go check out what hurts the most my version, and also go check out when you think of me, love it. We're gonna do it, all right, Mark, have fun? Thank you, Okay, thank you? That the opery sometime soon. Hey hey hey, by the way, by the way, I don't even know if I've really got to talk to you much. I love the show. Oh Shiners, Oh so good. Oh that's right. Listen. Abby was at Shiner's as well, and she looked down. She was sitting up in the rich people section we call it, and she was looking down. She's like, was that Mark Wills down here? Because Mark was like, Mark was like three rows deep in the center. And I so every joke that I made, I'm like making eye contact with Mark. It was hard. Yeah. I love how you called me out. I love how you called me out on my quarter zip. I was like, dude, it's cold now. Well you know, listen, they can zip all the way down or happy you eat your choice? Yeah whatever, Yeah, you're making fun of My favorite. My favorite thing of the evening though, was when you said when you ask if anybody wanted to come up on stage and you look directly at me, and I was like, nope, absolutely not. That is one thing I would not do to you. So that was funny. You're like, we're looking for some volunteers and you look directly me and I was like nope, and you were like you can. You gave me the wink, the wink and the nods, just like I got you. I got you. I will set you back down if they try to bring you back up here. Um, dude, thank you so much. Now, I listen, we'll be We'll be in Nashville in a couple of week at the Opry. Love you to come and hang out with us and uh and bring the girls. So I feel like I'll actually be at the Opry and you can bring them. Oh wait a minute, months, are you inviting us? Yeah, we'll hold on. Mark, Are you playing, y'all? Come out? Are you playing the opry Valentine's Day? That's Tuesday, February. No, I will be there the next night for the n WCF event National Wildlife Turkey Federation, National wild Federation. Exactly, full circle moment, Mark Mark next night, Mark full circle moment. Right here we've talked about Gary Lavox and what hurts the most. He's also going to be there at the National Wildlife Turkey Federation singing. Guess who else is going to be there? Yeah, I'm on the list. I ch Mark. I say it's Chuck. What's gonna be there? Of course? All right, so we'll see you. You can get take Where do we get tickets for that? By the way, do we know? I don't know. Is it opery dot com. We'll look it up, we'll get the benefit. I'll see what I will do. I will I will find I will you know, because they put out those uh they put out those like banner things that you're supposed to post on your social media, uh with information to how to get tickets and stuff. I will find that and I will I will text it to you, and uh, I think what you should do is just do what I do and say, you know, these are my gifts and and and bring the girls from the podcast so that I can officially meet everybody and say come up, we'll be there. Okay, says I don't know. Oh yeah, this is Oh you can get it on opery dot com. Okay, that's where it is. You can get an opery dot com. You can see everybody. You see everybody what he's talked about me, Mark Gary, there you go, there you go. And Sammy and Abby are going to be in the wings. Yeah we will, Sammy perfect. Sammy's shaking head now, she's like, I'm over this. I'm not going to I just I will not be in Nashville, so I can't invite myself somewhere that I won't be. But I appreciate the invite, and I would be there if I was in town. How about that you could blow up, you could blow off whatever you were supposed to go do. Oh okay, yeah, I mean I I don't need another jobs. Find her job. So Sammy is out on the rep. Mark, Sammy's out on the road with old Dominion. I got okay, fair enough that that makes more sense. A job job, Hey, if you want to call him and let them know. Just I'll give you their number. You can drop the line for me. Okay, all right, brother, we'll listenok all right, sorry, I'll be careful to the shower and you go to uh go see Carrie. All right, have fun. Tell Carry and Jimmy. We said hello, thank you, thank you, bye, good good luck hanging up there. That blew my mind that he's done. Did you guys know that I didn't. I don't forgot it at one, can you. I'm gonna look on Spotify. I look at me right now. I'm not doing I'm sorry, um for the record, and I can't wait to hear this podcast back because I think I'm gonna sound like a million bucks. My vocal is gonna sound amazing. Your vocals are gonna suck ass. Because I went to Guitar Center and bought a new podcast vocal Mike today. Six hundred bucks for this thing. Six hundred bucks. That's nice. That Well, here's the deal. This is what I'm gonna do. I feel like, I mean, I don't know. I can't really hear because my headphones are also broken, so I have no idea. I've just been laying on the ground and pretending to be live. All right, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna I want to listen back to this and if I like the way my Michael Jesus my vocal my vocal mic sounds, I will go out and get you to the same one. Have the mike's been bothering you? Is that why you went out and got it? I've been listening to It's just more like condensed specific Okay, yeah, well I do feel like I'm like right on the mic and if I sit back like this, like it's too thin, I have to be like right in your lips have to be on so weird, I don't know. Can we also just like flashback to win Mark, who is a musician musician had a guitar and played less than five seconds. Abby sharted her like playing yes do you think every time I talk me to chuck me breaks out into song and guitar playing why but he had a guitar on him. He's sitting at home on the phone. Yeah, he was sitting in his d're acting like he's juggling fire bowling pins while playing the guitar, Like I don't know what level you transcended to. But I was like, wait, obviously he's a musician. I just couldn't believe he'd have as a guitar sitting there. I thought he was just like wandering around or like you know, putting laundry in or something. I don't know. He's doing an interview for a music podcast prepared. What if we asked him to sing a new song, you know, it could have been he had to just be ready for whatever. It's true, I thought it was a demo like he was playing. Yes, I do feel like you could make a drinking game out of this though, And if you're listening to the podcast every time Mark Will said back in the day and you took a shot, you'd be boozing by the time this podcast was over. I didn't even notice. Yes, I don't know why. He just was so like precious, like well back in the day, like trying to tell us back in my days what I feel like he was saying to us, and specifically to me, and you not chuck. True, well, Mark Will is one of my favorites all time, Like I love I even tell him this all time. I tried to imitate when I and when I'm doing interviews, and I can talk normal because right now apparently I can't when I'm in interviews. And I said, they go, oh, who'd you grow up listening to? Always say? Oh, I was imitating Mark Wills, Brian White, Garth bur Tim mcgrawl, Tracy Lawrence, Joe Diffy. Ah, he's always in that mix. Yeah, he's amazing. Also just like yeah, I was gonna say, he's also so nice. He just hopped on the phone and just started just went at it like normal. That was awesome. Yes, very norm that's the word I was looking for. I feel like I could. That was just us talking to our friend Mark. You know, no big deal. M And look, he just texted me because thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Let me know when it airs and I'll post about it. Oh my god, come on, gem, I enjoy him. I wish he was here in real life. I mean, he can be us town. Yes, well we know he'll play live because he did it already, so he prepared for that this time. Abby will be in the bathroom during that portion so she could shoot herself just like the I looked up and like, at first second, I thought you were being sarcastic. With the level of surprise on your face. I was like, like that was wild. Okay, let's talk about the Grammys. Okay, did anybody watch the Grammys? I watched the whole thing. My friend was on it. Well, who's your friend Corey Hunt? He plays keys for Mr Luke Combs. Wait, that's a different ner, you kin Coy Kent. Cory Kent is signed. He used to be my neighbor at my first apartment in Nashville. Corey Kent was my neighbor. Fun fact, how I was going to say Corey Feldman the actor, No, I bet you a mean he doesn't even know who that is. You don't know who Corey Feldman is if you saw a picture when he's from the nineties. He's the one that keeps on like dancing and singing, Like are you okay today? Charles? I don't know. I just I get happy when not enough like oxygen in this room. No, I think it is, and I just get happy when I'm around you guys. I think we're like the human version of serotonin. I'll take that. I almost said melotonin, which you know it's also good, just not what I'm trying to be in life. Yeah, you guys can talk about the Grammys. It was did you not? Did you not watch it? So I wanna okay, this is We're gonna get everybody's feedback here. And I definitely have some thoughts after thoughts because I didn't watch it. I watched, uh, my wife dance. We went out for Sunday Funday, so oh I helped your wife with that Sunday fun day. Yeah, she was texting me about We were just you know, throwing ideas back and forth because she's like, hey, you go out more than I do, And I was like that might have used to be true, but I don't feel like it isn't anymore. All right, this is what we did. So we just because a lot of people that listen to us come to town, they're like, what should we do? So this was our Sunday Funday. Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't mean to be a brat, but like when people ask me for like personalized lists of things to do in Nashville, Like, do you realize how many influencers who it's their full time job to find things for you to do in Nashville, Like they are just a click away. Please ask them, don't ask me I sit on my couch and watch Netflix, and then I go to the gym and I come into a podcast and then I leave. Well, this is going to be my honest feedback of each place I went to. Okay, all right, Sunday Funday edition Chuck with Sunday Funday on a Sunday started at noon on a Sunday. Yep, that's the definition. I will kill you. I will come over that. Oh the one ft away. Okay. So I went to Layered Cake first for brunch. Okay, food was amazing. The food was phenomenal. Did you eat up top or in the basement in the main level? Main level remix? Okay, main level. They had a DJ going. It wasn't packed. Apparently Saturdays they're like super packed. We went on Sunday. It was busy, but it wasn't super packed. So if you like that vibe, go on a Sunday rather than a Saturday. Okay. The cake they actually Layered Cake. They actually make these amazing cakes. Phenomenal. Did you see the front display with all of those cakes and like the giant chair so good? I sat in the chair. I love that for us. I've never said ever in my life. Those aren't real cakes on there there, it's he won't. I've only been the layered cake the roof at like two am, So I don't know when you guys are doing this. He want that cake? Is that? Like? Ask? Cheeks slapping? Yes? Haven't you? Haven't you ever heard the Rihanna Chris Brown song he want that? Okay? Oka Oka Oka? Well that was a really hard time clapping on beat for you. That's crazy and it's not even a birthday. You know you've never heard that song. But I don't like the icing off in the worst, Like yes, Jesus old, Okay that was like that was came out in like two thousand nine. Oh, I see, I was busy when they were a couple. R I p that relationship IP that should have been ended. I mean, you know he was beater and stuff. Yeah, and he's still on the radio, so it's America alright. So layered cake right? So I recommended out of ten, I got popcorn chicken was a ten out of ten. Wow, popcorn for brunch? Popcorn chicken? Why are you saying popcorn? So? Because because normally I would say a popcorn pop popcorn. That's just the way I talk. Bro no, that's not a thing. That's not even an accent popcorn pop. It doesn't matter to pop like my my mom and pop pop pop pop popcorn. Alright, moving on, Jesus Jesus. Wait, okay, first of all, are you a serial killer? Who is popcorn chicken for broun Well looking on the menu? So I got it and it was fantastic four nine. I don't know what it was, but it was really good. Um. And then we had like this, it was called something crack dip. It was amazing. It was like freaking phenomenal. And the chicken wings are like full chickens like it's like it's oh, it's really good. It's the whole bo I mean, it almost flew off the platter. It was a big massive anyway, y'all have you seen that video where he goes, okay, tell your joke. He goes, why are chicken so funny? And she goes why he goes and it's the cutest little boy squirrel. All right, So anyway, food was great, We had a great time. Staff was amazing. Recommended all right. Then we went to a place called Pushing Daisies that like underground your mouth noses. I can hear them because my freaking headphones are broken out. Yeah, especially if I have to listen back, I will die. It doesn't like I'm not discriminatory, Like if it's my mouth noises, I am equally as disgusted. It's not just like someone. Yeah, what I was disgusting. What I was saying was that was my idea pushing. That was my recommendation. Okay, put this is the Pushing Daisies vibe. All right. If you're going, if you it's right, there's a big Apple store and twelve thirty club. If you're facing twelve thirty Club right off Broadway to left, there's a little door it's called Pushing Daisies. And you go downstairs and its dungeon. Okay, downstairs in the dungeon and you walk into like a whole different, different vibe. It's very very dark. We went like two, it was three o'clock in the afternoon, beautiful day. Walk down there. Pitch Black club vibe. It's a tequila place basically margarita maga. So not good for Sunday Funday, like during the day. I recommend that for like a date or like a bunch of girls. You know what I'm saying I went there on like a girl's night hang. But it was cool because it's different than you know, the smelly honky tonks. Not that I don't love the smelly honky tonks, but it is something that's just like a little more upscale. Yeah, it's definitely upscale. Yeah, I'm so glad you guys went there. That means one of my recommendations made the cut. Yes, you went went there, loved it. Um. And then after that we went to the rooftop of twelve thirty was right there, and because we had Jason now Dean with us, we took the back way. Didn't have to go on the streets. You know what I'm saying. Oh, sorry, let me pick that name up. You just dropped. So we went. So we went up the back way with my back hurt from picking that one up. Sorry, And we went up there, and uh, I've been to the rooftop of twelve Club. It's beautiful. You can see Broadway. You can see the rooftop of twelve thirty Club. If you go there, you have a bird's eye view the Ryman Auditorium. That's the best. And you can also see right over top of Tutsies and legends in the corner. So that's kind of the vibe there, and that's more of an up skilled place too. Yeah, you guys did not like a Sunday Funday that I'm used to. You did a real boogie one layered cake, pushing daisies, and then the twelve thirty club and then I can tell you guys have money, can't really OK. And then Cassie and I we we uh we skipped out. They kept partying. We went to a private dinner at this a chef's house and he's opening up. He's opening up one of the top fourteen most anticipated restaurants in the world in which to his home, and he cooked for us personally with a couple of other friends. Excuse me, I know, and it's amazing. It was amazing. What's it called? Can you say? I'm gonna look it up here because I want to make sure I say the right name. Ziggy's I think called Ziggs. Why is it so exclusive rich people? It's about to be opened up? Uh, I can't relate. So anyways, Also, I looked at the clock and apparently my mouth noises are at forty four minutes, so you can no I will literally die, I can't hear. All right, this is what it is. So the seventeen most hotly anti Jesus, the seventeen most hotly anticipated restaurant openings in America, sorry, not the world in America fore and his is on there and it's called egg Eas, not Ziggy's, so egg Eas Nashville. And this guy, his chef, Ryan Poly, Is he single? No, he's dating someone. Has circled the globe cooking at some of the world's finest restaurants, from the French Laundry to No moa'st Tokyo pop up to l Seller Conroca to the Potato Head Beach Club in Bali. Now he puts his roots down to Nashville, gain returning city. Blah blah blah. He needed tasty men. You spot Catbird Seat, um, and you overhauled the food operation of Hotel Bobby. Anyway, Is Catbird Seats still open? I don't know. I don't think it is. I heard the food suck. That's why I closed. It's a joke because he's the one of the best shows. I was actually just studying your face while you're trying to read those words that it made me laugh in the middle because it was the struggle for you know, the food was phenomenal. Um, so where is gonna be Iggies? Where is it going to be. It's gonna be in Wedgwood, Houston. Oh nice, right by my house. Hey boom, Wedgwood, Houston. So then we told the crew are Funday Sunday Sunday Funday crew, that like, hey, we're gonna rejoin with you because we took a big party bus from Jason's house, so we're gonna rejoin you. Well, by that point, we had like pasta, we had like a nine course dinner from this guy, and we're like, funk retired. So we texted and we're like, oh, they're probably ended up anyway, So let's just say we're gonna jump on the bus back and you know, get our car. They're like no, they're their their balls to the wall at Miranda Lambert's throwing it down, the whole Audine clan just rocking it, and we were just like, nope, we're going on. So we went on. This is my cute exit stage left. You know when you feel respond like when you do something like that, you're like, oh, I don't want to miss the fun. But then you get home, You're like, man, I feel responsible. I'm an adult. That was a moment we had. I awsilep between, like, wow, I really don't want to miss the fun, and I genuinely don't care that I'm missing the fun, you know what I mean. I feel like I kind of bounced back and forth because I kind of have fun wherever I go. So I'm good, you know, And I will feel a lot better the next day than all the people that do all the fun until late night. Yes, yes, that's the real winner that Welcome to your thirties. All right, So there's Sunday fun Day. So let's let's move on to the Grammys. Back to that, um, because I was doing Sunday Funday. I did not watch it, but I I would see like highlights sure, Internet, So congratulations to um Charlie Pierce ast McBride. Right, that's great. Um? Who else one in country world? Uh? Cody Johnson? Cody Johnson one song of the Year, Yes, okay, so you can't. And then Willie Nelson, Yeah, wasn't the best album? Yeah? The album great? Yep, it was a shock to me too, but then again it's Willie, so never count them out. Grammars are always different. Grammys are different, They're always weird. And it wasn't an award, but Kasey Musgrave's sang Loretta Lynn and they like honored people had passed away in the music industry this year and it was really great. But I also love Loretta Lynn and Kasey Muskray, so it's just like my all my birthday petties parties. Game one. I did see where a lot of people were talking about ash McBride's Uma Holy Rack, City Rack Rack, Sady Beach. Good for her, she looks phenomenally, yes she I mean, I know she looks phenomenal, but I meant that like and like you did you like what she wore? Oh? Yeah, I mean sure. I think if you got it flaunted, I am like a full I support that. I'm wearing Laney dump truck hat right now. Like, if you got it, flaunt it, let's celebrate it. You know how long I waited for women to look like that. I grew up in the nineties where heroin Chic was in. I was never gonna look like any of those bitches low rise, no body fat, Like No, I'm glad finally someone's got a role on their body. Let's put it out there, let's show that that's normal. I'm into it, but actually is sober now and has like I don't want to say, changed her life around, because that would be me speaking out of turn about whatever she was doing with her life. But I know that she's really proud of that, and she looked great. I think that all of the changes she's made is shown. All I can say is I'm not brave enough to wear that. I would I ever wear that. Absolutely, I would. One movement and I would be well, her nipples were probably glued to that dress, and if they weren't, then god speed to her. But honestly, I was looking at the tables and it was like Miranda, her husband, Luke and his wife, and then like right across was Lizzo, Harry Styles, Taylor Swift. I was like, keep it cool, keep it cool. I was never smore them. I was also how Beyonce was late to the Grammys. She missed her first award that she won because she was stuck in traffic quote unquote. I mean that might have been an excuse. I have no idea, but yeah, she was late. They announced her as the winner, and she wasn't there to accept it. I mean I don't. I don't because you can you can listen. If you're a Beyonce, I feel like you can do anything to get there on time. Well, you can get up a police escort. Sure, I guess she didn't do that. You know, maybe she was trying to get her kids down. She's a normal person too, but well she's now the most winning is Grammy artist there ever was in existence everty two thirty two Grammys. They're probably really poor. Huh. Her and jay Z her grand great great great grand grand kids will not have to work their billionaire clubs easily. I think one of them is a billionaire. And then you put them together, they're like multibillionaires. Like, yeah, what imagine being those kids. You don't have to worry about nothing generations like generation that's that's generational wealth. Alright, So we did. So how do we feel overall about the Grammys? I mean, is there anything else? Listen? I thought the fifty year Tribute to the Hip Hop to hip hop in general, like as a genre, was lit. Missy Elliott came out love that journey for me. Uh, I was vibing with all of the throwbacks for sure. Um, And then, like I said, I got to see my friend play in the Grammies. That's a pretty freaking cool experience. I heard, I saw. There was a lot of push back with what's his name, Sam Sam Hunt? I mean Sam Hunt was met? Was his name? Sam Smith? Sam Smith? Unholy did Unholy right, and it was very like red and devilish. It was the well I mean it was on holy. Yeah, it was the definition of holy. There's a lot of red pleather going on and devil horns and cages and fire and sexual hip thrust ng and not a no. I mean I don't have a family, but I would not. I would say no. They were I mean I think it was like the only one though. Was there anything else that was like the Grammys are always very political? Actually a guy joked because what's his face was the host Trevor Noah, And as I was saying, like they literally the intro of the Grammys, and I'm with all my friends very mixed political views in my friend group, like all over the place, and I as I'm saying, oh, I wonder how long it will take him to make a Trump joke. He was literally saying a Trump joke, and I was like, oh, there it is because Bad Bunny opened and he was like, wow, that was so good it would make Donald Trump even want to learn Spanish. And as I was saying like, oh, Trevor, Noah, how long will it take him to make a Trump joke, he was making a joke as I said it, and I was like, I take another shot. Yeah, I mean noil that it was less than five seconds in like it was literally in the first sentence of him coming and introducing the show. I was like, oh, there days. Yeah. I definitely do have my feelings about certain certain acts that did certain things, but I feel like if we give it attention, that's what they want to. Like you were offended, I wasn't. I don't get offended by anything. I think people should do whatever they want to do. But I also think that there's a time and place for stuff. And I some of the some of the I don't even know how to explain it, but to take a song and turn it, turn it into something that it's not like and and give a visual to people that don't really need to see that, you know what I'm saying, Like, I feel like everybody should be able to enjoy the Grammys, and I feel like it's up to the Grammys to determine what is put on their stage and what is not. So I feel like they have a responsibility to everyone to make it a show that everyone can watch. If they're gonna put certain things on that stage, they should say, hey, this is this is rated R. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Because if I have an eight year old or a nine year old, I have a twelve year old. So if I have a twelve year old, that's kind of on the brink because she's a girl and she's on the brink of like discovering who she is and what she is and you know, and you know those hormlone things that you girls go through. Guys do it too. But um, I know what you're saying. You know what I'm saying. It's impressionable. It's a very like transitional time for her, right, So so if you're going to have something rated AR, yeah, let me know, give us a head drop it in the d M. Yeah for sure, not like here's music, Okay, Yeah, um, I would agree. But I also feel like this is the first time I've watched the Grammys in years, like I do not watch the Grammys. I don't necessarily. I feel like it's kind of like the Oscars where it's just like things will win, and I'm like, wow, I've never even heard of that, at least in the Grammys. I have heard of the music because I'm a big music fan, But when it comes to like movies and ship like, I don't know. I don't watch that, watch the same movies I've been watching my whole life, TVs TV. It didn't matter. I mean, if if it's appropriate for certain ages, and it should be appropriate for certain ages, Okay, I get that. I don't have a family, so I feel like I just look at the world differently. But I do understand you have to be on the lookout. I didn't watch it. I watched highlights because I was out doing Sunday Funday. But if I was sitting on the couch with Avery twelve tuckers to know any difference. But if I was sitting on the couch with her, I'd be like, m probably shouldn't watch. But don't you think that, like the general world consensus at this point knows that, like if you are a parent, I don't know that the Grammys is something that I think there a list of things to do on a Sunday night. Most logical parents, I think that way. But there's a lot of people that just leave their kids on the couch to watch whatever. This is true, This is true. All right, Well, um let me see here. Yep, Fender, I just got a text magic. Wow, my Jesus, I just got a text message. I don't know if you can hear the guitars in the background, but Fender Fender Guitars. They have rented out the War War Theater, which is where we do the podcast now, and they're about to do sound check, so we're gonna wrap it up. I don't know why I sound like a radio guy. So with that said, the top twenty countdown. Okay, one more thing. Remember I texted you like the venmos of the winners? Yeah? Did you ever venmo them? Yeah? You up? No, But I just asked, did you get the third one? Oh thin? She's like, I'm okay, good, yes, mouth noise haters. Then Moose are gonna go out today? Perfect? Did you guys see the review from the lady Patricia that was like, I love you guys, but sometimes you annoy me. But I still love you, and I was like, you know what, Patricia, I feel that because sometimes you annoy me, but like, at least we're close enough in our friendship to admit that to one another, and that's what you call honesty. Family. Yes, bye, I love you guys. They're playing fender Bender, No Universe, Love Country and talk to Check

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