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We help you shed the shame, grow to new level. We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone else is too afraid to talk about.

We help you shed the shame, grow to new level. We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone else is too afraid to talk about.

Get ready for your next level of self. Hello, welcome back to one of the episode of She Rises, your favorite to co hosts Ashley and Tiana.

Get ready for your next level of self. Hello, welcome back to one of the episode of She Rises, your favorite to co hosts Ashley and Tiana.

It's not free through Friday, but today we're getting a bit naughty sexual. But I didn't, but that's what I want to talk about today. It's like naughty thoughts or what people consider naughty thoughts. Why And We've got quite a few different points to uncover.

It's not free through Friday, but today we're getting a bit naughty sexual. But I didn't, but that's what I want to talk about today. It's like naughty thoughts or what people consider naughty thoughts. Why And We've got quite a few different points to uncover.

And talk about. And like what naughty thoughts, what they are and whether they should be explored or not is something that I think would be really cool to cover.

And talk about. And like what naughty thoughts, what they are and whether they should be explored or not is something that I think would be really cool to cover.

Yeah, definitely, what is the word naughty? Who does what's naughty? And this isn't just in sex too, it's in around food. People say naughty. I'm like, that's almost like demonizing the food to be bad.

Yeah, definitely, what is the word naughty? Who does what's naughty? And this isn't just in sex too, it's in around food. People say naughty. I'm like, that's almost like demonizing the food to be bad.

It's true.

It's true.

Anything of too much, I think can be unhealthy. But that word naughty I just don't connect with. It can be fun and playful, I think in the bedroom like a naughty girl, you know. I just, yeah, I don't love the word naughty because for me, it makes it sound like what I'm doing is wrong.

Anything of too much, I think can be unhealthy. But that word naughty I just don't connect with. It can be fun and playful, I think in the bedroom like a naughty girl, you know. I just, yeah, I don't love the word naughty because for me, it makes it sound like what I'm doing is wrong.

Yeah, that's so interesting. I think I've used even in context of a conversation. I say the word naughty sometimes, but I think the context behind it is important, definitely, But it does, for the most part, have a negative connotation, definitely negative energy around it of like, oh, this is bad, you shouldn't be doing it. Stop doing that, I'm sure.

Yeah, that's so interesting. I think I've used even in context of a conversation. I say the word naughty sometimes, but I think the context behind it is important, definitely, But it does, for the most part, have a negative connotation, definitely negative energy around it of like, oh, this is bad, you shouldn't be doing it. Stop doing that, I'm sure.

Yeah, this was the main part of this episode is more on the sexual side of things. What thoughts come up for us where we've shamed ourselves. I know for me growing up, I thought most things were just naughty and bad and dirty and slutty. Yeah, it's why I didn't sleep around. It's why I waited till I only had boyfri friends. Why I just didn't experiment and do much because I just thought that was the wrong thing to do. I thought it was gross and you should save yourself, you know, people that care about you. Yeah, and on reflection now, I definitely do not have that opinion. I'm like, you, live your life. Yeah, I want to go fuck around and try go for it. Live your life, fuck around, find out Actually when I say naughty thoughts around in the bedroom, what comes up for you?

Yeah, this was the main part of this episode is more on the sexual side of things. What thoughts come up for us where we've shamed ourselves. I know for me growing up, I thought most things were just naughty and bad and dirty and slutty. Yeah, it's why I didn't sleep around. It's why I waited till I only had boyfri friends. Why I just didn't experiment and do much because I just thought that was the wrong thing to do. I thought it was gross and you should save yourself, you know, people that care about you. Yeah, and on reflection now, I definitely do not have that opinion. I'm like, you, live your life. Yeah, I want to go fuck around and try go for it. Live your life, fuck around, find out Actually when I say naughty thoughts around in the bedroom, what comes up for you?

So when I think of naughty, I think of things that are almost like forbidden fruit taboo.

So when I think of naughty, I think of things that are almost like forbidden fruit taboo.

Yeah, like a.

Yeah, like a.

Big taboo where I'm like, say, for example, like I have dabbled in like a little bit of anal play, right, not much, not have had sex with like that way or anything, but to me that feels taboo. And so when I think of like naughty thoughts, I think almost like things that I shouldn't want to do or that aren't really allowed or socially acceptable to talk about or to actually do, but feels like, oh, I could see how in an intimate relationship with your partner, when you have like the ultimate level of trust, if you're into that, that might be something that you want to explore. Yeah, And so I've definitely had moments I love that was the first place that I went.

Big taboo where I'm like, say, for example, like I have dabbled in like a little bit of anal play, right, not much, not have had sex with like that way or anything, but to me that feels taboo. And so when I think of like naughty thoughts, I think almost like things that I shouldn't want to do or that aren't really allowed or socially acceptable to talk about or to actually do, but feels like, oh, I could see how in an intimate relationship with your partner, when you have like the ultimate level of trust, if you're into that, that might be something that you want to explore. Yeah, And so I've definitely had moments I love that was the first place that I went.

Well, my first place is totally different to yours, so it's all welcome bringing in so good.

Well, my first place is totally different to yours, so it's all welcome bringing in so good.

I'm like no lube for this conversation. We've got straight in. And that's kind of something that comes to mind is like it's naughty. It's almost not allowed. It's like you're not really supposed to want that or supposed to like that. But I do have moments where I do get curious where I'm like, oh, I wonder what a little bit of like anal play with my partner would feel like, or yeah, things like that, And I do think those things, but then immediately I notice myself close up and be like, no, we haven't been together long enough, or I shouldn't want that, Like it just feels like I don't give myself permission to want to like that.

I'm like no lube for this conversation. We've got straight in. And that's kind of something that comes to mind is like it's naughty. It's almost not allowed. It's like you're not really supposed to want that or supposed to like that. But I do have moments where I do get curious where I'm like, oh, I wonder what a little bit of like anal play with my partner would feel like, or yeah, things like that, And I do think those things, but then immediately I notice myself close up and be like, no, we haven't been together long enough, or I shouldn't want that, Like it just feels like I don't give myself permission to want to like that.

When you hear someone else talk about it. This isn't me, by the way, But if it was one of your friends it was like, oh my god, I had a best anal sex last night. Would that dissolve that shame pretty quickly that you'd be like, oh, yeah, it's okay that I want that for me, yeah, Or would you still hold onto it look at her like, oh fuck you like that? No.

When you hear someone else talk about it. This isn't me, by the way, But if it was one of your friends it was like, oh my god, I had a best anal sex last night. Would that dissolve that shame pretty quickly that you'd be like, oh, yeah, it's okay that I want that for me, yeah, Or would you still hold onto it look at her like, oh fuck you like that? No.

I don't look at anybody who enjoys those things in that way. It's more of a curiosity. I'm like, oh, cool, like I'd love to hear your experience kind of thing. But then for me, it's a different story. I feel like I have made more limitations on myself than I do other people because maybe my own sexual shame that I carry. I'm like, oh, like maybe I shouldn't, you know. Yeah, or expectations of society where it's like, oh, you're not a good girl if you like those things.

I don't look at anybody who enjoys those things in that way. It's more of a curiosity. I'm like, oh, cool, like I'd love to hear your experience kind of thing. But then for me, it's a different story. I feel like I have made more limitations on myself than I do other people because maybe my own sexual shame that I carry. I'm like, oh, like maybe I shouldn't, you know. Yeah, or expectations of society where it's like, oh, you're not a good girl if you like those things.

Yes, people will think you're dirty or saty or whatever.

Yes, people will think you're dirty or saty or whatever.

Yeah. Yeah, that was where my mind went.

Yeah. Yeah, that was where my mind went.

Mm. If I think of naughty, mine more thinks of like threesomes, yeah, or like sex parties or something. Yeah, okay, Like I've never been to a sex party, like that would seem very quote unquote naughty to me, Like it's so unknown and just people to not talk about that and it's not the norm thing to go and do. I don't really know anyone that even goes to those, yeah, you know, and it's not something I see myself going to in the near future. Who knows in fifty years time, I'm not sure, but it's not something I see myself going to. So for me, that feels quite naughty. It's more curiosity too, but I do think they're definitely a darker energy, not in a bad way, but they're very curious and adventurous people. But for me, that's very outside my comfort zone. It's naughty.

Mm. If I think of naughty, mine more thinks of like threesomes, yeah, or like sex parties or something. Yeah, okay, Like I've never been to a sex party, like that would seem very quote unquote naughty to me, Like it's so unknown and just people to not talk about that and it's not the norm thing to go and do. I don't really know anyone that even goes to those, yeah, you know, and it's not something I see myself going to in the near future. Who knows in fifty years time, I'm not sure, but it's not something I see myself going to. So for me, that feels quite naughty. It's more curiosity too, but I do think they're definitely a darker energy, not in a bad way, but they're very curious and adventurous people. But for me, that's very outside my comfort zone. It's naughty.

Yeah, and also as well with things like that, it's very hush hush. I feel anything that comes to sex.

Yeah, and also as well with things like that, it's very hush hush. I feel anything that comes to sex.

And it makes you feel like it's naughty.

And it makes you feel like it's naughty.

Yeah, it does, because it's not really openly spoken about it. No, it's not a common conversation that most people have, even if they were to go, yeah, you don't really hear about it.

Yeah, it does, because it's not really openly spoken about it. No, it's not a common conversation that most people have, even if they were to go, yeah, you don't really hear about it.

When I asked you, if you hear other people talk about anal, does it help you soften, because for me it does. If I ever hear someone talk about threesomes and experiences that hard makes it feel so normal then because they're so freely about it, like, oh, it's not so naughty. Yes, everyone does this, like in a group setting, once one person opens up, everyone else has got stories to them like, oh, this is so much more common than what people think.

When I asked you, if you hear other people talk about anal, does it help you soften, because for me it does. If I ever hear someone talk about threesomes and experiences that hard makes it feel so normal then because they're so freely about it, like, oh, it's not so naughty. Yes, everyone does this, like in a group setting, once one person opens up, everyone else has got stories to them like, oh, this is so much more common than what people think.

That's so true.

That's so true.

Just don't talk about it.

Just don't talk about it.

That's very true.

That's very true.

So it's not so naughty. It's just them exploring their sexuality. It's just them having fun. It's just got a sex toy in human form, Like it's normalized it. It doesn't seem was naughty when people talk about it.

So it's not so naughty. It's just them exploring their sexuality. It's just them having fun. It's just got a sex toy in human form, Like it's normalized it. It doesn't seem was naughty when people talk about it.

It's not naughty, it's just that people don't talk about it. Yes, the people are doing it, that's whether she just wouldn't know about it. I think that you're alone in it because you're not having the conversation. Yeah, even the conversations we've had open conversation around anything that we'd want to explore, open to what we wouldn't be open to, even that normalized it. Yes, for us, I did like just having the dialogue of being like, would we explore this? Probably not? But do we want to talk about it?

It's not naughty, it's just that people don't talk about it. Yes, the people are doing it, that's whether she just wouldn't know about it. I think that you're alone in it because you're not having the conversation. Yeah, even the conversations we've had open conversation around anything that we'd want to explore, open to what we wouldn't be open to, even that normalized it. Yes, for us, I did like just having the dialogue of being like, would we explore this? Probably not? But do we want to talk about it?

Absolutely? Do we fantasize about it?

Absolutely? Do we fantasize about it?

Absolutely?

Absolutely?

Yes? Are we going to do it?

Yes? Are we going to do it?

Do I have the balls?

Do I have the balls?

No? Do I have dreams about it? Yes? Yeah, let's talk about dreams because I love talking about sex dreams. Oh my gosh. A couple of like, oh, maybe like six months ago, Steve he asked me, I had this sex dream about I don't know who he was, but he was hot. We did end up having sex in the dream, and I was devastated. Anyway, the next night, Steve had a dream about this girl.

No? Do I have dreams about it? Yes? Yeah, let's talk about dreams because I love talking about sex dreams. Oh my gosh. A couple of like, oh, maybe like six months ago, Steve he asked me, I had this sex dream about I don't know who he was, but he was hot. We did end up having sex in the dream, and I was devastated. Anyway, the next night, Steve had a dream about this girl.

Oh, wow.

Oh, wow.

Oh wow. Yes. My reaction to like, who is this motherfucker? It was like a healthy jealousy. I was like, tell me about her. She was like brunette, and he said she was smoking hot. And then he was like, we just fucked all night. And I was like, oh my goodness, and I got a bit jealous, but like laughing because it's a dream. Like it's a dream. He hasn't not anything wrong. Yeah, he had the same dream four nights in a row. I'm like, okay, this is reoccurring. I was like, have you scrolled on Instagram and this gorgeous brunettes popped out? And now she's in your subconscious He's like, honestly, babe, I would tell you if that happened, if it was like what the name? Oh my god, he's obsessed with her. If it was her, he goes, I could just tell you, you know. Yeah, He's like, it's no one I've ever seen before. Yeah, but I could describe to you what she looks like. I don't need the details, babe. Yeah, like that's enough. But to me, that was like, oh, this feels a bit naughty. And when I wake up from a dream of having sex with someone, else, I feel so guilty. Yeah, that feels really naughty to me because I wake up, I'm like, oh I've cheated. Yeah, it makes you like you've done something wrong. I don't have an orgasm? Am I wet? Okay, I'm good.

Oh wow. Yes. My reaction to like, who is this motherfucker? It was like a healthy jealousy. I was like, tell me about her. She was like brunette, and he said she was smoking hot. And then he was like, we just fucked all night. And I was like, oh my goodness, and I got a bit jealous, but like laughing because it's a dream. Like it's a dream. He hasn't not anything wrong. Yeah, he had the same dream four nights in a row. I'm like, okay, this is reoccurring. I was like, have you scrolled on Instagram and this gorgeous brunettes popped out? And now she's in your subconscious He's like, honestly, babe, I would tell you if that happened, if it was like what the name? Oh my god, he's obsessed with her. If it was her, he goes, I could just tell you, you know. Yeah, He's like, it's no one I've ever seen before. Yeah, but I could describe to you what she looks like. I don't need the details, babe. Yeah, like that's enough. But to me, that was like, oh, this feels a bit naughty. And when I wake up from a dream of having sex with someone, else, I feel so guilty. Yeah, that feels really naughty to me because I wake up, I'm like, oh I've cheated. Yeah, it makes you like you've done something wrong. I don't have an orgasm? Am I wet? Okay, I'm good.

How do you fet like that?

How do you fet like that?

I don't know. I don't like it. I think so so good. So he's like, was I there? Yeah, like that kind of stuff feels naughty, but like fun.

I don't know. I don't like it. I think so so good. So he's like, was I there? Yeah, like that kind of stuff feels naughty, but like fun.

Isn't it funny though when that happens. I've had that before, feeling guilty after having a moment like that, Because you do, you feel like it almost like a guilty conscience, Like I know I haven't physically done anything, yeah, but my psyche is running out. Yeah, it just feels edgy.

Isn't it funny though when that happens. I've had that before, feeling guilty after having a moment like that, Because you do, you feel like it almost like a guilty conscience, Like I know I haven't physically done anything, yeah, but my psyche is running out. Yeah, it just feels edgy.

It does feel edgy and a bit naughty. Yeah. Yeah, So we had a DM come through. She wants to know how to uncover what is worth exploring with fantasies and what's worth leaving as a fantasy only. I think it's up to the individual. Yeah, but I do love talking about fantasies with Steve because some of them are just that. Yeah, Like sometimes I'm like, oh that sounds so hot and sexy or I'll see something in a movie and he's like, is that something you want to do? I'm like, oh, hell no, not for me. Like I don't want to have a mass orgy, but this movie seems really sexy right now, But no, way, that's not for me. I don't want to be in a room with ten people having sex like that. No, that's not for me. But the movie scenems enjoyable. So yeah, it's a little bit of a fantasy, But I don't actually think I would ever want to go through with that or even entertain that. Yeah, I think it's up to the individual. If you feel like that's actually something you would like to try, then I think that's okay to explore that fantasy.

It does feel edgy and a bit naughty. Yeah. Yeah, So we had a DM come through. She wants to know how to uncover what is worth exploring with fantasies and what's worth leaving as a fantasy only. I think it's up to the individual. Yeah, but I do love talking about fantasies with Steve because some of them are just that. Yeah, Like sometimes I'm like, oh that sounds so hot and sexy or I'll see something in a movie and he's like, is that something you want to do? I'm like, oh, hell no, not for me. Like I don't want to have a mass orgy, but this movie seems really sexy right now, But no, way, that's not for me. I don't want to be in a room with ten people having sex like that. No, that's not for me. But the movie scenems enjoyable. So yeah, it's a little bit of a fantasy, But I don't actually think I would ever want to go through with that or even entertain that. Yeah, I think it's up to the individual. If you feel like that's actually something you would like to try, then I think that's okay to explore that fantasy.

Yeah, I think what you just said is so true. It really is so uniquely independent on the individual and also depends on how you feel about it yourself, because like you could maybe watch something like what you just said and be like, oh, I really enjoyed that, but in real life be like no, or you could really watch it and be like I feel like I shouldn't do that, but I want to do, you know what I mean. So it depends on the shame around that. Yeah, it depends how you feel about it, what feels safe to do, what feels safe to explore, whether you feel like you have people safe enough to do those things with. Like, I feel like there's so many different parts to that to consider.

Yeah, I think what you just said is so true. It really is so uniquely independent on the individual and also depends on how you feel about it yourself, because like you could maybe watch something like what you just said and be like, oh, I really enjoyed that, but in real life be like no, or you could really watch it and be like I feel like I shouldn't do that, but I want to do, you know what I mean. So it depends on the shame around that. Yeah, it depends how you feel about it, what feels safe to do, what feels safe to explore, whether you feel like you have people safe enough to do those things with. Like, I feel like there's so many different parts to that to consider.

And you've got to be honest with yourself. Like, let's use that situation as an example. If you watch an orgo threeism or something on TV and you're like, oh, that would be really fun. Oh no, no, I don't want to do that. Is that truth for you? Or do you not want to do it because you're scared of what your husband might think of you, or you're scared of what your friends will say, you're scared that you won't be accepted, or you're scared you'll be shamed about it. You're going to shame yourself for it. Have you told yourself that that's dirty? Or do you actually just not want to do it because to me, there's no shame around it. I don't want to have an orgy, yes, I just know that's not for me. Yeah, but for other people it might be fine. So it's very personal preference. Yeah, personal preference.

And you've got to be honest with yourself. Like, let's use that situation as an example. If you watch an orgo threeism or something on TV and you're like, oh, that would be really fun. Oh no, no, I don't want to do that. Is that truth for you? Or do you not want to do it because you're scared of what your husband might think of you, or you're scared of what your friends will say, you're scared that you won't be accepted, or you're scared you'll be shamed about it. You're going to shame yourself for it. Have you told yourself that that's dirty? Or do you actually just not want to do it because to me, there's no shame around it. I don't want to have an orgy, yes, I just know that's not for me. Yeah, but for other people it might be fine. So it's very personal preference. Yeah, personal preference.

So that's a hard question to answer because it really is the only person who can really answer that is you, yes, you know, for you specifically, because even for the woman who DMS like, we don't have context of what her personal fantasies are, what her desires are, what her intimacy level is, like you know, those sorts of things that we don't know those things.

So that's a hard question to answer because it really is the only person who can really answer that is you, yes, you know, for you specifically, because even for the woman who DMS like, we don't have context of what her personal fantasies are, what her desires are, what her intimacy level is, like you know, those sorts of things that we don't know those things.

At least that's a good example. So for me, I clearly know I do not want to have an orgy, but say there's a show called I've shared it on here before. It was like me, you and her, I think it was, and it was about a thruple relationship. I don't want to thrupple relationship, but I loved the dynamic of another girl. It was really playful and fun and I haven't really explored with the girl, but I'm maybe a little bit more curious on that, whereas an orgy is a hell no for me. Yeah, there was definitely a bit of a fancy and curiosity with another woman, yeah and Steve, but an orgy is a hell no for me. So there's just two different examples of what we left as like, oh, that's hot to watch on TV compared to oh maybe one day yeah, yeah, yeah.

At least that's a good example. So for me, I clearly know I do not want to have an orgy, but say there's a show called I've shared it on here before. It was like me, you and her, I think it was, and it was about a thruple relationship. I don't want to thrupple relationship, but I loved the dynamic of another girl. It was really playful and fun and I haven't really explored with the girl, but I'm maybe a little bit more curious on that, whereas an orgy is a hell no for me. Yeah, there was definitely a bit of a fancy and curiosity with another woman, yeah and Steve, but an orgy is a hell no for me. So there's just two different examples of what we left as like, oh, that's hot to watch on TV compared to oh maybe one day yeah, yeah, yeah.

See it's funny when you say that, and when I've heard friends of ours who have been in relationships with the throple, I'm like, oh my god, I'm so curious about that. But then when I think about me being in that, I'm like, I'm way too jealousy. Shit, I'm like, I just would not be a good partner because I'm like, I already have jealousy traits and like natural insecurity is just like anyone, and sometimes it can be quite strong, my jealousy. So I'm like, I imagine having to do it with three people instead of like being an intimate. You know, if there's ever anything that does pop into my mind, they're usually fleeting moments, yeah, like fantasies or things that I might want to experience, or you know, even thoughts of being like, oh would I want to explore that with him one day in the future, you know, and then it's just a fleeting thought. Yeah.

See it's funny when you say that, and when I've heard friends of ours who have been in relationships with the throple, I'm like, oh my god, I'm so curious about that. But then when I think about me being in that, I'm like, I'm way too jealousy. Shit, I'm like, I just would not be a good partner because I'm like, I already have jealousy traits and like natural insecurity is just like anyone, and sometimes it can be quite strong, my jealousy. So I'm like, I imagine having to do it with three people instead of like being an intimate. You know, if there's ever anything that does pop into my mind, they're usually fleeting moments, yeah, like fantasies or things that I might want to experience, or you know, even thoughts of being like, oh would I want to explore that with him one day in the future, you know, and then it's just a fleeting thought. Yeah.

What about when you were single verse in a relationship. I can't really speak on this because I'm in single since it's freaking like eighteen, but did you have naughtier thoughts or different fantasies when you're single compared to when you're in a relationship. Yes, Yeah, absolutely, Okay.

What about when you were single verse in a relationship. I can't really speak on this because I'm in single since it's freaking like eighteen, but did you have naughtier thoughts or different fantasies when you're single compared to when you're in a relationship. Yes, Yeah, absolutely, Okay.

Yeah, so I would say that the fantasies are more frequent when I'm single.

Yeah, so I would say that the fantasies are more frequent when I'm single.

Yes, that would make more sense.

Yes, that would make more sense.

You'll think a bad It's like when I'm single, it's more of like a fantasy things that I hear that I read, you know, It's like the Dynamics and the smart books and stuff like that, where I'm like, well, that'd be fun. But because I don't have that in my close immediate so I'm like, oh, I wonder what that would be like. So there's a lot more curiosity when I'm single. Makes so much sense, But I also never had the balls to explore stuff like.

You'll think a bad It's like when I'm single, it's more of like a fantasy things that I hear that I read, you know, It's like the Dynamics and the smart books and stuff like that, where I'm like, well, that'd be fun. But because I don't have that in my close immediate so I'm like, oh, I wonder what that would be like. So there's a lot more curiosity when I'm single. Makes so much sense, But I also never had the balls to explore stuff like.

That and the taste for it, I suppose because when you're in a relationship, you are satisfied in getting so many needs met. Yes, you don't really look outside of that, whereas when you're single, it's like fucking the world's my oyster. Yeah, I can do anything I want with whoever I want, Like literally, what do I feel like today?

That and the taste for it, I suppose because when you're in a relationship, you are satisfied in getting so many needs met. Yes, you don't really look outside of that, whereas when you're single, it's like fucking the world's my oyster. Yeah, I can do anything I want with whoever I want, Like literally, what do I feel like today?

But I totally didn't even do that. Like for me, I've always wanted to be in a relationship or have an emotional connection with somebody before I do that stuff. And it's not shaming anybody who does otherwise still.

But I totally didn't even do that. Like for me, I've always wanted to be in a relationship or have an emotional connection with somebody before I do that stuff. And it's not shaming anybody who does otherwise still.

Had the fantasies about it. I still had the fantasies about it. That's what we're talk about. Suppose it's more naughty thoughts. Yeah, not necessarily actions. It was just like the thought went there. Oh, the thoughts definitely went there. Yeah, Yeah, that's cool.

Had the fantasies about it. I still had the fantasies about it. That's what we're talk about. Suppose it's more naughty thoughts. Yeah, not necessarily actions. It was just like the thought went there. Oh, the thoughts definitely went there. Yeah, Yeah, that's cool.

Coming back to what you were saying about, like the sex parties and stuff like, speaking of like naughty connotations around the word naughty. I always used to think that that was quite naughty. But I remember thinking and feeling when I was younger, wanting to explore that, but almost like feeling like I shouldn't. Like it was like that, oh, no, you're not allowed to do this because what if people judge you?

Coming back to what you were saying about, like the sex parties and stuff like, speaking of like naughty connotations around the word naughty. I always used to think that that was quite naughty. But I remember thinking and feeling when I was younger, wanting to explore that, but almost like feeling like I shouldn't. Like it was like that, oh, no, you're not allowed to do this because what if people judge you?

Yeah, you know.

Yeah, you know.

But there was always a curiosity there of just wanting to experience it, even just once to just be like, I wonder, I wonder what it looks like because I've never seen it. I can't fathom what it looks like. Not that i'd even like play or interact or any of that stuff. It's always just been a curiosity. I've been quite a curious moment from a young age. Like I started self pleasuring at a young age because I'm just so curious about my body and learning things and feeling things. Yeah, you know, so that kind of like has rolled on as an adult, and yeah, I just remember thinking around those things, like I would wonder what it feels like to be in that environment.

But there was always a curiosity there of just wanting to experience it, even just once to just be like, I wonder, I wonder what it looks like because I've never seen it. I can't fathom what it looks like. Not that i'd even like play or interact or any of that stuff. It's always just been a curiosity. I've been quite a curious moment from a young age. Like I started self pleasuring at a young age because I'm just so curious about my body and learning things and feeling things. Yeah, you know, so that kind of like has rolled on as an adult, and yeah, I just remember thinking around those things, like I would wonder what it feels like to be in that environment.

I can't imagine. Yeah, Like, is it like the movies whereveryone puts their key? Oh no, that'd be swinging, wouldn't When they put their keys in a bowl and then they pick out another key, and whoever's keys that is, they have to go with that partner.

I can't imagine. Yeah, Like, is it like the movies whereveryone puts their key? Oh no, that'd be swinging, wouldn't When they put their keys in a bowl and then they pick out another key, and whoever's keys that is, they have to go with that partner.

They switch partners.

They switch partners.

Yeah, yeah, but that's not a sex party, is it. I'm getting a sex party is different.

Yeah, yeah, but that's not a sex party, is it. I'm getting a sex party is different.

I think that would be a swing much about it? Really really heard of a friend of a friend who's been like, I don't even know anyone that's been, no, neither of I. We need to get someone on.

I think that would be a swing much about it? Really really heard of a friend of a friend who's been like, I don't even know anyone that's been, no, neither of I. We need to get someone on.

Yeah, I know, if anyone's listening, you've been to a sex party.

Yeah, I know, if anyone's listening, you've been to a sex party.

And you know what as well, even with this conversation, for anyone who's like potentially listening and maybe even getting triggered at the topics that we're talking about. This is supposed to be a place where we come and we open up the floor to anything to be strip about we don't even know what we're talking about here. Yeah, I don't know about a sex No, I'm like, we have no idea. But it's just that nothing is off limits when we open up this conversation. We do that in our friendship, we do that on the podcast, like we want to create that space for you to know that nothing is off limits. No, you know, it just creates a really safe place within yourself and also here with us that you know you can explore anything that's coming up for you in the moment without needing to make it wrong exactly.

And you know what as well, even with this conversation, for anyone who's like potentially listening and maybe even getting triggered at the topics that we're talking about. This is supposed to be a place where we come and we open up the floor to anything to be strip about we don't even know what we're talking about here. Yeah, I don't know about a sex No, I'm like, we have no idea. But it's just that nothing is off limits when we open up this conversation. We do that in our friendship, we do that on the podcast, like we want to create that space for you to know that nothing is off limits. No, you know, it just creates a really safe place within yourself and also here with us that you know you can explore anything that's coming up for you in the moment without needing to make it wrong exactly.

And one of our words this year is curiosity, like always to lead with curiosities that something's on your mind or you're curious about it, research it, look it up, talk to people, ask questions, try things like you literally get one life.

And one of our words this year is curiosity, like always to lead with curiosities that something's on your mind or you're curious about it, research it, look it up, talk to people, ask questions, try things like you literally get one life.

Live it and just reiterating that, like we can talk about anything, but it doesn't mean that you have to act on it. No. It's a huge part of what we do here is just being like, oh, you want to talk about it, cool. If you don't want to act on it, that's absolutely fine. We support you.

Live it and just reiterating that, like we can talk about anything, but it doesn't mean that you have to act on it. No. It's a huge part of what we do here is just being like, oh, you want to talk about it, cool. If you don't want to act on it, that's absolutely fine. We support you.

Literally even all of these fantasies like probably never will act on them. Yeah, they're fun to talk.

Literally even all of these fantasies like probably never will act on them. Yeah, they're fun to talk.

About and probably read them in smart books.

About and probably read them in smart books.

Literally, I was just gonna say in books. It's similar. People on social media always talk about how much books turn them on, like their fantasies there. That's highlighting for you, that that turns you on. That's okay, that's not naughty or bad. Yeap, fun It isn't funny. How we get shamed for being turned on by these things. Yeah, it's such a shame and just denying yourself with pleasure though when you bring shame into it and you're denying someone else of potentially feeling that pleasure.

Literally, I was just gonna say in books. It's similar. People on social media always talk about how much books turn them on, like their fantasies there. That's highlighting for you, that that turns you on. That's okay, that's not naughty or bad. Yeap, fun It isn't funny. How we get shamed for being turned on by these things. Yeah, it's such a shame and just denying yourself with pleasure though when you bring shame into it and you're denying someone else of potentially feeling that pleasure.

And how cool as well. Even if they there is shame there or fear, it's like, oh, this is an opportunity for me to heal through that so I can access deeper levels of intimacy, Like, oh, if shame is here, that means I'm being blocked from experiencing something on a deeper level because I feel like I shouldn't be doing that. I feel like it's wrong or someone's going to judge me for it.

And how cool as well. Even if they there is shame there or fear, it's like, oh, this is an opportunity for me to heal through that so I can access deeper levels of intimacy, Like, oh, if shame is here, that means I'm being blocked from experiencing something on a deeper level because I feel like I shouldn't be doing that. I feel like it's wrong or someone's going to judge me for it.

And if you're already feeling that too, like if your friends ever bring anything to you as well, don't feel shamed by you as well. Yeah, I's think it's super weird to just be open minded and accepting and explore, be curious, ask questions. Yeah, it doesn't have to be in anything, or you don't have to do anything not bad or good. Just is it just is. So this is a bit of a shorter episode, but we just want to chat about it because it's come up for us. I've got a couple of dms. I thought we'd talking about naughty thoughts. We love it, love it. Thanks for joining us. We'll see you on Friday.

And if you're already feeling that too, like if your friends ever bring anything to you as well, don't feel shamed by you as well. Yeah, I's think it's super weird to just be open minded and accepting and explore, be curious, ask questions. Yeah, it doesn't have to be in anything, or you don't have to do anything not bad or good. Just is it just is. So this is a bit of a shorter episode, but we just want to chat about it because it's come up for us. I've got a couple of dms. I thought we'd talking about naughty thoughts. We love it, love it. Thanks for joining us. We'll see you on Friday.

Bye, ladies.

Bye, ladies.