I knew this one was going to be an absolute ripper, but I was so not prepared for just how much I'd laugh.

If you've ever wanted to learn about Yucatan micro pigs... and the breast implants Dr. Chris Winter gave them in the name of groundbreaking sleep research... then, boy oh boy, you're in luck. Because, as it turns out, when I hunted down one of the most reputable sleep experts I could find, little did I know he's also the world's foremost expert on the sleep habits of said pigs. Naturally.

Somewhere amongst all the glorious shenanigans and completely unnecessary detours that unfolded, we actually did manage to unpack an absolute stack of sleep gold. So hold off on the melatonin, kids, and stick with us...

We talk about why chasing the 'perfect' night's sleep often backfires, why one rubbish night doesn't mean tomorrow's ruined, what actually changes in women's sleep as our hormones start doing their thing, and why so many people spend years trying to fix their sleep, when what really needs fixing is the panic they feel about not sleeping.

Chris has a brilliant capacity to make complicated science feel ridiculously simple and remove the unnecessary overwhelm that often comes with this whole 'optimisation' saga. 

I reckon you might just come away from this chat wanting to sleep better... but caring a whole lot less about trying to get it perfect. And lo and behold, I dare that's the magic sleep elixir right there.

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