On this episode of Quiet Please! Mel and Kira catch up on all the things— from Mel’s hiking adventure (and struggles) in Colorado to Kira turning her empty house into a private concert venue.

They’re also joined by Dave Phillips, co-founder of TPI, Titleist Performance Institute. They talk about golf fitness, fueling, the differences between male and female training and how custom programs can seriously boost your game. Plus, Mel, Kira and Dave weigh in on the great golf ball rollback debate and why coaches’ messaging needs to be much simpler when trying to reach players, especially the amateur golfers who just wanna have fun.