All right, Runner Gang, Welcome back to Post Run High. Today's episode is a fun one. I went on a one mile run through Los Angeles with the insanely talented Meg Donnelly, who, by the way, absolutely crushed the run. You guys might know Meg from her role in Disney's Zombies franchise, High School musical The Musical, or maybe even from her own personal music. Meg and I both grew up in New Jersey, so naturally we had to bond over that before sitting down for our full conversation, because you guys know, I love my Jersey girls. But we got into acting how she deals with the highs and lows of growing up in the public eye, her music, her life in LA and so much more. But before we get into the episode, I want to give you guys a quick reminder.

All right, Runner Gang, Welcome back to Post Run High. Today's episode is a fun one. I went on a one mile run through Los Angeles with the insanely talented Meg Donnelly, who, by the way, absolutely crushed the run. You guys might know Meg from her role in Disney's Zombies franchise, High School musical The Musical, or maybe even from her own personal music. Meg and I both grew up in New Jersey, so naturally we had to bond over that before sitting down for our full conversation, because you guys know, I love my Jersey girls. But we got into acting how she deals with the highs and lows of growing up in the public eye, her music, her life in LA and so much more. But before we get into the episode, I want to give you guys a quick reminder.

Hello Hello.

Hello Hello.

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If you are a loving post Run High with me Kate Max, make sure you subscribe to my YouTube channel at Kate Max, where you can watch all of our video podcast episodes. And if you want to watch my run with Meg that we filmed before sitting down for the conversation you are about to hear, you can of course find it across my socials at Kmax. But for now, let's get into today's episode. What is up Brunner Gang. Welcome back to post run High today. I am here with Meg Donnelly, Meg and I just ran a couple blocks, probably almost a mile. If we look oily, it's because we just ran, so, you know, keep that in mind.

How are you feeling post run good? I feel really good. Yeah.

How are you feeling post run good? I feel really good. Yeah.

I really didn't think I was gonna last that long. I had to walk a couple of times. Not gonna lie, but I yeah, I didn't know what to expect.

I really didn't think I was gonna last that long. I had to walk a couple of times. Not gonna lie, but I yeah, I didn't know what to expect.

But I'm happy that I made it.

But I'm happy that I made it.

I know. Pass out, Yeah, it's always a funny ice breaker, like starting with the run. Yeah, and I love asking people in the beginning of my interviews about kind of what they do for working out, And we talked about it a little bit on the run. But break it down for us, like are you an active person? Do you like working out? It's definitely important for me.

I know. Pass out, Yeah, it's always a funny ice breaker, like starting with the run. Yeah, and I love asking people in the beginning of my interviews about kind of what they do for working out, And we talked about it a little bit on the run. But break it down for us, like are you an active person? Do you like working out? It's definitely important for me.

I think it's taken a while to figure out what I like to do because I love dancing so much. So that's like a really easy workout because you're you're just working everything out but while dancing, and it's just.

I think it's taken a while to figure out what I like to do because I love dancing so much. So that's like a really easy workout because you're you're just working everything out but while dancing, and it's just.

A really fun activity to do.

A really fun activity to do.

I've tried doing pilates and like hot yoga and hot sculpt all that stuff really hard.

I've tried doing pilates and like hot yoga and hot sculpt all that stuff really hard.

So like the heated room stuff is really hard for me.

So like the heated room stuff is really hard for me.

But I've been trying because like my best friend does it a lot, and so, yeah, but it's mostly dance, I would say, and like you know, nice walks and hikes. Yeah. I'm trying to get into running because my dad. I think I said this before too, but my dad has been running for like he hasn't missed a day in like thirty years, and he's ran so many marathons and so it's like definitely my blood somewhere hasn't reached yet. But I'm trying to like do like like mile, like a mile at a time.

But I've been trying because like my best friend does it a lot, and so, yeah, but it's mostly dance, I would say, and like you know, nice walks and hikes. Yeah. I'm trying to get into running because my dad. I think I said this before too, but my dad has been running for like he hasn't missed a day in like thirty years, and he's ran so many marathons and so it's like definitely my blood somewhere hasn't reached yet. But I'm trying to like do like like mile, like a mile at a time.

I like that. Yeah.

I like that. Yeah.

No, I feel like dance, as you said, is such a good cardio workout. And I feel like what's cool about you too, is that you've done a lot of musical dance singing roles and you have to have such an insane amount of stamina in order to do that.

No, I feel like dance, as you said, is such a good cardio workout. And I feel like what's cool about you too, is that you've done a lot of musical dance singing roles and you have to have such an insane amount of stamina in order to do that.

What do you do to get ready for a role.

What do you do to get ready for a role.

Is there a routine that you strictly follow or is it more like the dance rehearsals that get you, you know, ready to go, because that it is hard being able to sing and dance.

Is there a routine that you strictly follow or is it more like the dance rehearsals that get you, you know, ready to go, because that it is hard being able to sing and dance.

Yeah at the same time, one hundred percent.

Yeah at the same time, one hundred percent.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think especially for stuff like Zombies, like we have so much rehearsal time. Ye Like we have like a month before we start shooting and we're just doing dancing all the time. So I think you get into the routine of.

I think especially for stuff like Zombies, like we have so much rehearsal time. Ye Like we have like a month before we start shooting and we're just doing dancing all the time. So I think you get into the routine of.

Like, oh, okay, I'm out of shape, Like let's get into it.

Like, oh, okay, I'm out of shape, Like let's get into it.

So you have like kind of a month to prepare and on the dancing days, like there's specific days where you're like, oh, we're just shooting musical today, and then it's like okay, cool, and then you can kind of in the morning prepare like okay, today I'm going to be doing it.

So you have like kind of a month to prepare and on the dancing days, like there's specific days where you're like, oh, we're just shooting musical today, and then it's like okay, cool, and then you can kind of in the morning prepare like okay, today I'm going to be doing it.

So like how do I rest? How do I eat properly?

So like how do I rest? How do I eat properly?

You know? But yeah, now like moving into like the music world, I feel like I've just been trying to sing as much as possible, like terribly singing on the treadmill and trying to like build up stamps in that way.

You know? But yeah, now like moving into like the music world, I feel like I've just been trying to sing as much as possible, like terribly singing on the treadmill and trying to like build up stamps in that way.

But it is really difficult. Yeah.

But it is really difficult. Yeah.

I love knowing, And ever since I started the running interview show and we interview a lot of artists, It's so fun knowing that you guys do train a lot while singing on the treadmill.

I love knowing, And ever since I started the running interview show and we interview a lot of artists, It's so fun knowing that you guys do train a lot while singing on the treadmill.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The first time I heard about that was actually before kind of the news came out that like Taylor Swift does it. You know. I was interviewing Mary Kate Morrissey and she's the girl that plays Alphaba on Wicked, right, and she was saying she often trains like that because Wicked is the Gershwin Theater has a break stage, which means it's kind of on an incline.

The first time I heard about that was actually before kind of the news came out that like Taylor Swift does it. You know. I was interviewing Mary Kate Morrissey and she's the girl that plays Alphaba on Wicked, right, and she was saying she often trains like that because Wicked is the Gershwin Theater has a break stage, which means it's kind of on an incline.

So you have to like have that extra level of breath control. Yeah.

So you have to like have that extra level of breath control. Yeah.

But I can't imagine singing alphabet songs every night. I can't even being suspended in the air Like that must be so hard.

But I can't imagine singing alphabet songs every night. I can't even being suspended in the air Like that must be so hard.

Yeah, I can't fathom that. Are you a Wicked fan?

Yeah, I can't fathom that. Are you a Wicked fan?

Yes, Oh my gosh, I'm a huge musical theater nerd. I loved Wicked, Love the movie.

Yes, Oh my gosh, I'm a huge musical theater nerd. I loved Wicked, Love the movie.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I literally have like a rent quote on my bracelet. I it's yeah, I'm pretty deep in it.

I literally have like a rent quote on my bracelet. I it's yeah, I'm pretty deep in it.

I love meeting kids that are in that we're into musical theater too, because I agree, I am see you. Yes, no, no, like I didn't do musical theater growing up, And yes, like I did a couple of school plays in middle school, but I do I did, like you know how in middle school they would do random kind of hodge podges of different yeah, like recital, yes, exactly, like a recital or it would be like bits of Annie and bits of like all these.

I love meeting kids that are in that we're into musical theater too, because I agree, I am see you. Yes, no, no, like I didn't do musical theater growing up, And yes, like I did a couple of school plays in middle school, but I do I did, like you know how in middle school they would do random kind of hodge podges of different yeah, like recital, yes, exactly, like a recital or it would be like bits of Annie and bits of like all these.

I did that too.

I did that too.

Yeah it was cute, but yeah, I always liked it.

Yeah it was cute, but yeah, I always liked it.

I think performing is so cool.

I think performing is so cool.

But I mean, growing up, you were super into musical theater and performances.

But I mean, growing up, you were super into musical theater and performances.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought that that was what I was going to do, like completely. I also was a huge fan of Disney Channel, so like as a really like young kid, I started like auditioning professionally when I was like seven or eight, so really young. Yeah, and a lot of it was for Broadway, but then it was always for Disney Channel too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought that that was what I was going to do, like completely. I also was a huge fan of Disney Channel, so like as a really like young kid, I started like auditioning professionally when I was like seven or eight, so really young. Yeah, and a lot of it was for Broadway, but then it was always for Disney Channel too.

It was always you know, kind of like.

It was always you know, kind of like.

Generals for that world because that was something that I was like such a huge fan of. But yeah, musical theater, I was like, oh yeah, Broadway's the dream, That's what I'm gonna do.

Generals for that world because that was something that I was like such a huge fan of. But yeah, musical theater, I was like, oh yeah, Broadway's the dream, That's what I'm gonna do.

And so.

And so.

Yeah, so I was like a huge musical theater nerd and that's kind of all I listened to and what I loved. And then it kind of just like transitioned to TV and film when I was like like eleven or twelve, I just started outsing for commercials and TV for like you know, like why not, and then that kind of just open another door.

Yeah, so I was like a huge musical theater nerd and that's kind of all I listened to and what I loved. And then it kind of just like transitioned to TV and film when I was like like eleven or twelve, I just started outsing for commercials and TV for like you know, like why not, and then that kind of just open another door.

So yeah, it's crazy. It's so wild.

So yeah, it's crazy. It's so wild.

It's wild to know how young you were when you got into the industry because it's like every kid's dream, right that's interested in musical theater. What was your childhood like growing up? Like I know you grew up in New Jersey and you know, like breaking down. Were your parents into acting or was this this world new to them as well?

It's wild to know how young you were when you got into the industry because it's like every kid's dream, right that's interested in musical theater. What was your childhood like growing up? Like I know you grew up in New Jersey and you know, like breaking down. Were your parents into acting or was this this world new to them as well?

It was completely new to them. Yeah, I think my love for music definitely came from them. Like they listened, like there was always music playing in the house. It was never quiet, and there were huge concert growers, so like I was always at concerts and music playing. So they're huge like music people, but like actual creatives. Like they were like jocks in high school and kind of went into the corporate world, so they were not like creative like that, but music wise, they were, if that makes sense. So yeah, going into musical theater and like they put me into sports, I was terrible at all of them, like I like playing soccer. I did not want to run on the field. I just wanted to play goalies so that I didn't have to run. And I was doing like cartwheels and singing and like whatever, and they were like, oh, okay, maybe she should do something like more like musical like theatery kind of thing. So then I went to like a musical theater school in Jersey Annie's Playhouse shout out, and yeah, then that's when I started. But they had no idea, and like even when like there was a workshop at the theater school that it was like a Broadway manager I like, and I just like sang in front of her just for whatever. And then when she was like, oh, like we want to sign your daughter and she'll start auditioning in the city. And like, my parents had no idea what that meant. I hater to die because I was like eight, but yeah, and then that's like what moved me into the city and everything.

It was completely new to them. Yeah, I think my love for music definitely came from them. Like they listened, like there was always music playing in the house. It was never quiet, and there were huge concert growers, so like I was always at concerts and music playing. So they're huge like music people, but like actual creatives. Like they were like jocks in high school and kind of went into the corporate world, so they were not like creative like that, but music wise, they were, if that makes sense. So yeah, going into musical theater and like they put me into sports, I was terrible at all of them, like I like playing soccer. I did not want to run on the field. I just wanted to play goalies so that I didn't have to run. And I was doing like cartwheels and singing and like whatever, and they were like, oh, okay, maybe she should do something like more like musical like theatery kind of thing. So then I went to like a musical theater school in Jersey Annie's Playhouse shout out, and yeah, then that's when I started. But they had no idea, and like even when like there was a workshop at the theater school that it was like a Broadway manager I like, and I just like sang in front of her just for whatever. And then when she was like, oh, like we want to sign your daughter and she'll start auditioning in the city. And like, my parents had no idea what that meant. I hater to die because I was like eight, but yeah, and then that's like what moved me into the city and everything.

But yeah, it was crazy, No, it is, And it's.

But yeah, it was crazy, No, it is, And it's.

So wild how one interaction like that can change the trajectory of your life, right, Like that woman noticing you really did transform your life, right, because it's hard, especially having parents that don't know the industry, you know, it's hard to know, Okay, like how do we get her to audition for stuff? And where what should she be doing if this is what she's interested in?

So wild how one interaction like that can change the trajectory of your life, right, Like that woman noticing you really did transform your life, right, because it's hard, especially having parents that don't know the industry, you know, it's hard to know, Okay, like how do we get her to audition for stuff? And where what should she be doing if this is what she's interested in?

Right, So that's so cool to know that. Yeah, it is really cool. And they did the best job.

Right, So that's so cool to know that. Yeah, it is really cool. And they did the best job.

I don't know how they navigated it the way they did, but they did.

I don't know how they navigated it the way they did, but they did.

A great job.

A great job.

So well, I feel like it was a good situation because you were getting casted for roles, right and you very quickly started working and yad of it. What was it like in those early days going to auditions in the city. Was it intimidating? Were you too young to really know if it was scary or not?

So well, I feel like it was a good situation because you were getting casted for roles, right and you very quickly started working and yad of it. What was it like in those early days going to auditions in the city. Was it intimidating? Were you too young to really know if it was scary or not?

You know what was terrified.

You know what was terrified.

The first audition I ever did was an open call for Billy Elliott. But it was like just dance, and like I was not a dancer at all, So like I went in with all these girls from all over the country and they were so good, and I just like had like a number on like on my stomach, and I was just like and like the first dish, I like got caught immediately because I was just like, I don't know what I'm doing. So it was like, yeah, it was so nerve wracking because it was like just such a big pool of kids that all have the same dream and it was just like really eye opening of like whoa, Like, this is not what I thought it was. But the first thing I ever did was an episode of Sesame Street where we taught kids how to say hands headed feet in Spanish.

The first audition I ever did was an open call for Billy Elliott. But it was like just dance, and like I was not a dancer at all, So like I went in with all these girls from all over the country and they were so good, and I just like had like a number on like on my stomach, and I was just like and like the first dish, I like got caught immediately because I was just like, I don't know what I'm doing. So it was like, yeah, it was so nerve wracking because it was like just such a big pool of kids that all have the same dream and it was just like really eye opening of like whoa, Like, this is not what I thought it was. But the first thing I ever did was an episode of Sesame Street where we taught kids how to say hands headed feet in Spanish.

Mmm. So we were dancing manosca this Yeah.

Mmm. So we were dancing manosca this Yeah.

That's hands wait, hands, head and feet right, and it was like Haun was singing it and so we were just like dancing in the background with like Elmo.

That's hands wait, hands, head and feet right, and it was like Haun was singing it and so we were just like dancing in the background with like Elmo.

So that was the first song I ever had and that was.

So that was the first song I ever had and that was.

Really cool, just like being on set and being like, wow, it's so cool. Yeah, and they filmed in Queens, so shout out Queens.

Really cool, just like being on set and being like, wow, it's so cool. Yeah, and they filmed in Queens, so shout out Queens.

It was great. That's amazing. I love knowing that you were on Sesame Street. What was what would you say it was your breakout role? Oh?

It was great. That's amazing. I love knowing that you were on Sesame Street. What was what would you say it was your breakout role? Oh?

Was it Zombies or I mean I would say, yeah, like a year before that, I was on American Housewife, which is like a sitcom for ABC, and so that was like the first That's what moved me out to LA And that was like whoa, Like it was like on a lot in La and I was like it was so cool, and like I had just turned sixteen, so it was just like so wild and new. And and then like while I was filming, I was auditioning for Zombies, and then that kind of happened.

Was it Zombies or I mean I would say, yeah, like a year before that, I was on American Housewife, which is like a sitcom for ABC, and so that was like the first That's what moved me out to LA And that was like whoa, Like it was like on a lot in La and I was like it was so cool, and like I had just turned sixteen, so it was just like so wild and new. And and then like while I was filming, I was auditioning for Zombies, and then that kind of happened.

So it kind of happened pretty fast right in that way.

So it kind of happened pretty fast right in that way.

But before that, it was just really funny because like for six years before that, it was just like constant auditions. So I think a lot of people, like I feel like a lot of times on social media you see somebody kind of book something and then go from there, but you don't see everything else in the background, and like it never happens that way, Like everybody is working so hard and like, but you only see like the good parts. So I just think that's really that was kind of tangent, But it's just really interesting that it is.

But before that, it was just really funny because like for six years before that, it was just like constant auditions. So I think a lot of people, like I feel like a lot of times on social media you see somebody kind of book something and then go from there, but you don't see everything else in the background, and like it never happens that way, Like everybody is working so hard and like, but you only see like the good parts. So I just think that's really that was kind of tangent, But it's just really interesting that it is.

It is no and I think too, like I do know how hard it is to get these roles, and it does make so much sense. Yeah, you audition for so much and then it's like you kind of get that big break and it's so exciting and you're like, yes, like I'm what they were looking for. But what is it like dealing with rejection when you're going through all these auditions and you were so young, and you know, I'm sure it still happens, right.

It is no and I think too, like I do know how hard it is to get these roles, and it does make so much sense. Yeah, you audition for so much and then it's like you kind of get that big break and it's so exciting and you're like, yes, like I'm what they were looking for. But what is it like dealing with rejection when you're going through all these auditions and you were so young, and you know, I'm sure it still happens, right.

Yeah, oh yeah, so much rejection. I feel like it definitely doesn't get any easier. I think you just learn how to deal with it more, take it less personally. It's really a lot easier than done because you know, you still take it personally, but but you try not to, you know. I think, yeah, now it's kind of more like, okay, you know, I just didn't fit the role, or like I wasn't what they were looking for, and that's okay, like just kind of rationalizing it that way. But as a kid, yeah, I think that's definitely where like a lot of times in my life, like if I feel like I'm like, you know, not good enough or you know, a lot of my insecurities, I feel like probably are rooted in like that rejection all the time, because you never feel like you're good enough in that way, especially being a young kid, because you're like wait, why you know? So, I think that is like a really hard thing. I think everybody deals with that in their life no matter what. But I think in this industry it's really interesting and you're also expected to be an adult at like eight years old. So you're like on set working and like everybody is working in nine to five and all the adults have like families and they're going home to your kids, and you're just like goofing off on set and then everyone is kind of like no, like you need to be an adult kind of thing.

Yeah, oh yeah, so much rejection. I feel like it definitely doesn't get any easier. I think you just learn how to deal with it more, take it less personally. It's really a lot easier than done because you know, you still take it personally, but but you try not to, you know. I think, yeah, now it's kind of more like, okay, you know, I just didn't fit the role, or like I wasn't what they were looking for, and that's okay, like just kind of rationalizing it that way. But as a kid, yeah, I think that's definitely where like a lot of times in my life, like if I feel like I'm like, you know, not good enough or you know, a lot of my insecurities, I feel like probably are rooted in like that rejection all the time, because you never feel like you're good enough in that way, especially being a young kid, because you're like wait, why you know? So, I think that is like a really hard thing. I think everybody deals with that in their life no matter what. But I think in this industry it's really interesting and you're also expected to be an adult at like eight years old. So you're like on set working and like everybody is working in nine to five and all the adults have like families and they're going home to your kids, and you're just like goofing off on set and then everyone is kind of like no, like you need to be an adult kind of thing.

It's it's really strange.

It's it's really strange.

Yeah, it is a hard it's a really hard dynamic, and I feel like it forces you to grow up so fast. Like, yeah, on our run, we were talking about how, you know, it's so cool that you've you know, on Disney and Disney movies like Zombies, and it makes me think back to Hannah Montana and we were talking about how growing up like Hannah Montana Wizards of Wave really placed. They were just our favorite shows to watch, and it's so weird to like think back on them and be like, Miley was so young when you were watching them, just like you were so young when you first started. But at the same time, you know, growing up, you look up at them and you're like they're you know, they're so young, but they at the same time are so mature for their age.

Yeah, it is a hard it's a really hard dynamic, and I feel like it forces you to grow up so fast. Like, yeah, on our run, we were talking about how, you know, it's so cool that you've you know, on Disney and Disney movies like Zombies, and it makes me think back to Hannah Montana and we were talking about how growing up like Hannah Montana Wizards of Wave really placed. They were just our favorite shows to watch, and it's so weird to like think back on them and be like, Miley was so young when you were watching them, just like you were so young when you first started. But at the same time, you know, growing up, you look up at them and you're like they're you know, they're so young, but they at the same time are so mature for their age.

Like did you feel like you had to grow up really quickly. It definitely. Yeah, well was that, Like.

Like did you feel like you had to grow up really quickly. It definitely. Yeah, well was that, Like.

It's crazy that like when I saw Hannah Montana on tour like Massive Square Garden, she was literally like thirteen fourteen years old. In my mind she was like this like adult, like amazing. She was literally a kid, Like that's crazy to me. But because I was like seven eight, like that was so old to me, you know, and like return, yeah, it is crazy. And even on the first Zombies, like I can't believe that I was only sixteen, Like.

It's crazy that like when I saw Hannah Montana on tour like Massive Square Garden, she was literally like thirteen fourteen years old. In my mind she was like this like adult, like amazing. She was literally a kid, Like that's crazy to me. But because I was like seven eight, like that was so old to me, you know, and like return, yeah, it is crazy. And even on the first Zombies, like I can't believe that I was only sixteen, Like.

I felt so much more mature and like I was like I.

I felt so much more mature and like I was like I.

Know everything and so old like whatever, and it's like I didn't know anything, right, So it's really fun.

Know everything and so old like whatever, and it's like I didn't know anything, right, So it's really fun.

I still don't know anything now now you'd be like you see high schoolers and you're like, oh my god, they're so young.

I still don't know anything now now you'd be like you see high schoolers and you're like, oh my god, they're so young.

I oh, it's weird.

I oh, it's weird.

Yeah, it's so weird, no, I I yeah, So I really did feel like I grew up pretty old. I think also just being in New York as well, like you kind of have to as well.

Yeah, it's so weird, no, I I yeah, So I really did feel like I grew up pretty old. I think also just being in New York as well, like you kind of have to as well.

I absolutely kids in the city grow up fast, Yeah for sure.

I absolutely kids in the city grow up fast, Yeah for sure.

Yeah, yeah, I think.

Yeah, yeah, I think.

But when I was younger, I think even being in this industry, and I think a lot of people can relate to this, even if they're not.

But when I was younger, I think even being in this industry, and I think a lot of people can relate to this, even if they're not.

I really wanted to be.

I really wanted to be.

Old, like older, and so when adults were like, oh, you're so mature for your age, like that was the biggest compliment. And now I wish I could go back and like tell my young my eleven year old self, like just be a kid, like laugh a little, come on, because I just wanted to be so adult and mature and like cool and with the older kids. But I think I still was a kid for sure, and I had great kid experiences, but at the same time, like I didn't as well, and so that is really interesting to grapple with. But being on the New Zombies movie, there are so all the kids are like fourteen to eighteen years old, and so it's almost like I'm reliving like the first Zombies over again and seeing how young and excit did they are. Like it was the craziest thing for like me and the older cast to like deal with, like, wow, we are not that age anymore, like we are like in our like early to mid twenties, and like that's crazy.

Old, like older, and so when adults were like, oh, you're so mature for your age, like that was the biggest compliment. And now I wish I could go back and like tell my young my eleven year old self, like just be a kid, like laugh a little, come on, because I just wanted to be so adult and mature and like cool and with the older kids. But I think I still was a kid for sure, and I had great kid experiences, but at the same time, like I didn't as well, and so that is really interesting to grapple with. But being on the New Zombies movie, there are so all the kids are like fourteen to eighteen years old, and so it's almost like I'm reliving like the first Zombies over again and seeing how young and excit did they are. Like it was the craziest thing for like me and the older cast to like deal with, like, wow, we are not that age anymore, like we are like in our like early to mid twenties, and like that's crazy.

It is.

It is.

I feel like it's so fun though, to be on that set and to be with at that age and be able to kind of be a mended right, you get to like be a mentor to them and a little bit of like the big sister role, and that's such a cool place to get to.

I feel like it's so fun though, to be on that set and to be with at that age and be able to kind of be a mended right, you get to like be a mentor to them and a little bit of like the big sister role, and that's such a cool place to get to.

What do you think was the biggest.

What do you think was the biggest.

Challenge when you were younger, just starting out having gotten this big role, Like what was the hardest thing for you to overcome that When you did overcome it, you were.

Challenge when you were younger, just starting out having gotten this big role, Like what was the hardest thing for you to overcome that When you did overcome it, you were.

Like, Okay, damn, I can do anything now.

Like, Okay, damn, I can do anything now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think.

I think.

I think when like the first like zombies came out, I don't think any of us really expected what was going to happen. I don't like even people at Disney, like it was such a niche Like it was like cheerleaders versus zombies.

I think when like the first like zombies came out, I don't think any of us really expected what was going to happen. I don't like even people at Disney, like it was such a niche Like it was like cheerleaders versus zombies.

There's music.

There's music.

It was kind of just like okay, like hopefully this does well whatever, And then when it did, I just don't think we expected it to happen like so fast, And so I think just facing a lot like just having a lot of eyes really fast and just facing like just reading comments and you know all those things. Like I think overcoming that of like dealing with other people's opinions, Like I think it really like stunted me for a while. And then it like kind of went into my social life, like I just cared so much about what people thought all the time, right.

It was kind of just like okay, like hopefully this does well whatever, And then when it did, I just don't think we expected it to happen like so fast, And so I think just facing a lot like just having a lot of eyes really fast and just facing like just reading comments and you know all those things. Like I think overcoming that of like dealing with other people's opinions, Like I think it really like stunted me for a while. And then it like kind of went into my social life, like I just cared so much about what people thought all the time, right.

And I still do.

And I still do.

I think you still have to in this industry at some point, you know, like if things do well and then they don't, you like want to follow that because you're like, Okay, something is connecting, something's not. But I think to the point where it like starts, like you know, debilitating you is when you should be like, Okay, maybe I need to like you know, figure something out. And I think I've like what I said before, I was like I'm trying not to care about what people think.

I think you still have to in this industry at some point, you know, like if things do well and then they don't, you like want to follow that because you're like, Okay, something is connecting, something's not. But I think to the point where it like starts, like you know, debilitating you is when you should be like, Okay, maybe I need to like you know, figure something out. And I think I've like what I said before, I was like I'm trying not to care about what people think.

Now I get it.

Now I get it.

I love that for you, but it is so important, Like this industry is so hard in that sense. Yeah, especially and people think that you don't see the comments or you know, because there's so many. Sometimes there's so many, Like it's you know, some people think that you don't notice, but it's like you notice the negative stuff so much more than the positive stuff.

I love that for you, but it is so important, Like this industry is so hard in that sense. Yeah, especially and people think that you don't see the comments or you know, because there's so many. Sometimes there's so many, Like it's you know, some people think that you don't notice, but it's like you notice the negative stuff so much more than the positive stuff.

Oh yeah, there could be like a thousand positive comments and then one person can say something negative and that you like ruined your day. Because I feel like in my head, I'm always like and especially in this industry as well, it's you're constantly like, because of the rejection everything, you're like, I'm not good enough. You have like this imposter syndrome of like maybe I don't belong here, maybe I'm not a good.

Oh yeah, there could be like a thousand positive comments and then one person can say something negative and that you like ruined your day. Because I feel like in my head, I'm always like and especially in this industry as well, it's you're constantly like, because of the rejection everything, you're like, I'm not good enough. You have like this imposter syndrome of like maybe I don't belong here, maybe I'm not a good.

Singer or whatever.

Singer or whatever.

And then if one person says that, you're like, oh, they got me, they found me out, like I'm not you know, But that's just not true.

And then if one person says that, you're like, oh, they got me, they found me out, like I'm not you know, But that's just not true.

And people will just say.

And people will just say.

Stuff just to say it because it's all anonymous, like you're never like you know, so it's just kind of like it is what it is. But I think that like not going on social media or like posting is important for like music and career, but like not looking at you know, a lot of the stuff has been like the biggest lesson is just like post and just like put it away.

Stuff just to say it because it's all anonymous, like you're never like you know, so it's just kind of like it is what it is. But I think that like not going on social media or like posting is important for like music and career, but like not looking at you know, a lot of the stuff has been like the biggest lesson is just like post and just like put it away.

No, that's such good advice. I feel like that.

No, that's such good advice. I feel like that.

I was actually just talking to a singer yesterday on the interview show She'll be her video we posted next week, Rachel Platten. She's the singer of the like the fight song Oh My God, Yes, and she's been in the industry for years, and she was saying the hardest thing is now adapting to social media because when she first started out social media wasn't really a thing.

I was actually just talking to a singer yesterday on the interview show She'll be her video we posted next week, Rachel Platten. She's the singer of the like the fight song Oh My God, Yes, and she's been in the industry for years, and she was saying the hardest thing is now adapting to social media because when she first started out social media wasn't really a thing.

In the way that it is now. Yeah, I can't imagine.

In the way that it is now. Yeah, I can't imagine.

I know you are launching music, do you feel like social media is super important when you're putting out new things?

I know you are launching music, do you feel like social media is super important when you're putting out new things?

Yeah, I definitely think with music it really is because I think, at least me personally, like I find so much new music on like Instagram or TikTok and because and I think kind of like posting is important. Yeah, And I definitely know that, and I definitely, you know, it's cool to post about stuff that you're proud of. But at the same time, I'm not a huge fan of social media because, like I, I feel like there's so many pros, but I think the cons are kind of just like you know, just like scrolling and comparing yourself to other people and kind of just like wasting a lot of time scrolling.

Yeah, I definitely think with music it really is because I think, at least me personally, like I find so much new music on like Instagram or TikTok and because and I think kind of like posting is important. Yeah, And I definitely know that, and I definitely, you know, it's cool to post about stuff that you're proud of. But at the same time, I'm not a huge fan of social media because, like I, I feel like there's so many pros, but I think the cons are kind of just like you know, just like scrolling and comparing yourself to other people and kind of just like wasting a lot of time scrolling.

At least I do that. I'm just speaking personally from my side of things. We all are chronically online, what I gay.

At least I do that. I'm just speaking personally from my side of things. We all are chronically online, what I gay.

And so, but I think for like work, and I think it is really important and I think it makes people feel connected to you. And I think now I've just been trying to post stuff that I feel like is authentic to me and like trying not to be. It's so weird because like I feel like social media is not very genuine in the way that you're like posting something, but it's all curated. So I'm trying to find a balance right now. I haven't figured it out yet, figuring it out now of like how to be more authentic and more myself and just like not again not care about what people think. And and I feel like that will It's just really fun that way because it's like, Okay, like this is just me and like, and I think people really connect to stuff that's authentic, you.

And so, but I think for like work, and I think it is really important and I think it makes people feel connected to you. And I think now I've just been trying to post stuff that I feel like is authentic to me and like trying not to be. It's so weird because like I feel like social media is not very genuine in the way that you're like posting something, but it's all curated. So I'm trying to find a balance right now. I haven't figured it out yet, figuring it out now of like how to be more authentic and more myself and just like not again not care about what people think. And and I feel like that will It's just really fun that way because it's like, Okay, like this is just me and like, and I think people really connect to stuff that's authentic, you.

Know, definitely, I think so too.

Know, definitely, I think so too.

I feel like it's so important on social media just to be posting content for your people because at the end of the day, it's just like your friend, your close friend group on there, you know.

I feel like it's so important on social media just to be posting content for your people because at the end of the day, it's just like your friend, your close friend group on there, you know.

But it's hard not to like curate stuff or like be like, oh, like I really like this photo, so I'm gonna post it. But it's like, you know, yeah, it's hard not to for everything to always look perfect, like where your feed looks like and all that stuff like that always gets in my head.

But it's hard not to like curate stuff or like be like, oh, like I really like this photo, so I'm gonna post it. But it's like, you know, yeah, it's hard not to for everything to always look perfect, like where your feed looks like and all that stuff like that always gets in my head.

Why.

Why.

I don't know. It's literally just Instagram, but like it like night.

I don't know. It's literally just Instagram, but like it like night.

Yes, Instagram is a different beast. It really is.

Yes, Instagram is a different beast. It really is.

It really takes more fun because it's like you can do whatever you want on there. Yeah, it's basically a ramp page.

It really takes more fun because it's like you can do whatever you want on there. Yeah, it's basically a ramp page.

Yes, But why is that? I don't know.

Yes, But why is that? I don't know.

I don't know when it comes to Instagram, Like I open it up and I'm like, oh, like does this look okay?

I don't know when it comes to Instagram, Like I open it up and I'm like, oh, like does this look okay?

Like I don't know why. I don't know why either.

Like I don't know why. I don't know why either.

I feel like Instagram historically has always felt like mm almost like a magazine of somebody's life in a way.

I feel like Instagram historically has always felt like mm almost like a magazine of somebody's life in a way.

And the Pinterest board.

And the Pinterest board.

Yeah, I don't know, but I'm not an aesthetic person, so I'm I just do my thing on that app amazing.

Yeah, I don't know, but I'm not an aesthetic person, so I'm I just do my thing on that app amazing.

I'm going to take after you, take after that. Just do your thing. Yeah, you still love it. Let's talk about Disney princesses. Okay, okay, so we kind of alluded to this on the run.

I'm going to take after you, take after that. Just do your thing. Yeah, you still love it. Let's talk about Disney princesses. Okay, okay, so we kind of alluded to this on the run.

But growing up, I know, you know, you do a lot of stuff with Disney Disney Channel. I feel like, growing up, every little girl has a princess that they love that they see themselves in. Is there a princess, a Disney princess that you love that you would want to maybe play in a movie.

But growing up, I know, you know, you do a lot of stuff with Disney Disney Channel. I feel like, growing up, every little girl has a princess that they love that they see themselves in. Is there a princess, a Disney princess that you love that you would want to maybe play in a movie.

She's like I can't say that.

She's like I can't say that.

Well. I mean a movie that I really loved growing up was Tangled. So Rapunzel is one of my favorite princesses. And I also really love Elsa. Yeah, and I think Elsa would also be a character. I feel like Rapunzel and Elsa are two characters that I would love to play in some capacity somehow.

Well. I mean a movie that I really loved growing up was Tangled. So Rapunzel is one of my favorite princesses. And I also really love Elsa. Yeah, and I think Elsa would also be a character. I feel like Rapunzel and Elsa are two characters that I would love to play in some capacity somehow.

I love Elseidriypunzel.

I love Elseidriypunzel.

I totally see that for you, you went from zombies to playing a role in the Winchester Yes, yeah, yeah, what is it like, kind of switching genres? You know?

I totally see that for you, you went from zombies to playing a role in the Winchester Yes, yeah, yeah, what is it like, kind of switching genres? You know?

Is that a challenge to do or was it super fun for you?

Is that a challenge to do or was it super fun for you?

It was so much fun. Yeah, I had the best time. It was really funny though, because one of the first episodes we did of Winchester's we were like like brutally murdering zombies and I was like, wow, this is very different from something that I did before, where I was falling in love and singing with the zombies. So very different projects, but it was so much fun. It's really fun doing both. I think drama is something that I've always been really like not scared of, but I think comedy and theater like that, that's like something I grew up in and so drama has been like harder for me. So I've been working on that more and it's honestly become like more of a passion these days of like figuring out like drama and like kind of the emotional stuff because when I watch things, it's not necessarily I cannot watch like horror or like really sad movies, like I have to be in a mood for that. But I'm so sensitive when it comes to like like when I'm watching a movie, like.

It was so much fun. Yeah, I had the best time. It was really funny though, because one of the first episodes we did of Winchester's we were like like brutally murdering zombies and I was like, wow, this is very different from something that I did before, where I was falling in love and singing with the zombies. So very different projects, but it was so much fun. It's really fun doing both. I think drama is something that I've always been really like not scared of, but I think comedy and theater like that, that's like something I grew up in and so drama has been like harder for me. So I've been working on that more and it's honestly become like more of a passion these days of like figuring out like drama and like kind of the emotional stuff because when I watch things, it's not necessarily I cannot watch like horror or like really sad movies, like I have to be in a mood for that. But I'm so sensitive when it comes to like like when I'm watching a movie, like.

It feels so real for me.

It feels so real for me.

So most of the time I'll do like animate like SpongeBob or like Bluey or like stuff because I think about two stuff weight too much in my life anyways, So I like like cartoons and happy movies. So yeah, so drama has been something really cool to get into. So yeah, Winchesters was definitely very different but also really fun.

So most of the time I'll do like animate like SpongeBob or like Bluey or like stuff because I think about two stuff weight too much in my life anyways, So I like like cartoons and happy movies. So yeah, so drama has been something really cool to get into. So yeah, Winchesters was definitely very different but also really fun.

Yeah, I feel like it is fun.

Yeah, I feel like it is fun.

It's also cool like as you grow up to start playing like different types of roles and you know, throw yourself into different settings. And it was so cool to see you in the Winchester Yeah. What is it like getting into character for that type of a role. What is your kind of getting into character process.

It's also cool like as you grow up to start playing like different types of roles and you know, throw yourself into different settings. And it was so cool to see you in the Winchester Yeah. What is it like getting into character for that type of a role. What is your kind of getting into character process.

For that, I feel like it was a lot of like prep because the role that I Addison in Zombies or like Taylor in American Nasa is pretty much just me, just with like you know, there's some differences but whatever. Then but this character was so different and then, but the cool thing is in every character you play, you get to find similarities of like of how they relate to you, And so I ended up did relating to Marry a lot. But on paper she was so different from me, like very dark and like, you know, a strong leader and opinionated and like that is just not me at all. So I think it was just you know, trying to make it as natural as possible, and so that took a little time at the beginning, but it was so worth it.

For that, I feel like it was a lot of like prep because the role that I Addison in Zombies or like Taylor in American Nasa is pretty much just me, just with like you know, there's some differences but whatever. Then but this character was so different and then, but the cool thing is in every character you play, you get to find similarities of like of how they relate to you, And so I ended up did relating to Marry a lot. But on paper she was so different from me, like very dark and like, you know, a strong leader and opinionated and like that is just not me at all. So I think it was just you know, trying to make it as natural as possible, and so that took a little time at the beginning, but it was so worth it.

It was so fun. Yeah. No, I find that so interesting.

It was so fun. Yeah. No, I find that so interesting.

Whenever I talk to actors, that is what they say, like you have to find the commonalities with yourself and that character, or if you can't, you have to try your best to just understand that character as a person and how they would act exactly. Yeah.

Whenever I talk to actors, that is what they say, like you have to find the commonalities with yourself and that character, or if you can't, you have to try your best to just understand that character as a person and how they would act exactly. Yeah.

I find the whole thing so interesting.

I find the whole thing so interesting.

Yeah, Yeah, I feel like you always take a part them with you.

Yeah, Yeah, I feel like you always take a part them with you.

No matter what. Yeah, and you like.

No matter what. Yeah, and you like.

Kind of always will have like how they think or feel like with you at some point.

Kind of always will have like how they think or feel like with you at some point.

It's really weird.

It's really weird.

I don't even know how to describe it. It's like a really weird feeling. Yeah, what part of Mary do you feel like you have taken with you? That reminds me of method acting, Like I feel like a lot of people that method act kind of sometimes adopt certain traits. I know, like Ariana Grande playing Glinda for real, her voice has changed.

I don't even know how to describe it. It's like a really weird feeling. Yeah, what part of Mary do you feel like you have taken with you? That reminds me of method acting, Like I feel like a lot of people that method act kind of sometimes adopt certain traits. I know, like Ariana Grande playing Glinda for real, her voice has changed.

Yeah, I know, and I think that happens a lot with like creatives like you kind of just like take on or like when I it's like those those tiktoks where it's like like me walking out of a movie theater with my new personality.

Yeah, I know, and I think that happens a lot with like creatives like you kind of just like take on or like when I it's like those those tiktoks where it's like like me walking out of a movie theater with my new personality.

Like you know when you watch a movie. Well maybe I.

Like you know when you watch a movie. Well maybe I.

Don't know, maybe it's just me, but like you walk out of a movie theater and you like see like a character and you think they're so cool or whatever, and you walk out and you're like, like, this is my new character. When I was younger, I used to do that all the time. I think that's what makes you an actress. Yeah, seriously, we're walking out of the first Avengers movie, and I like thought I was black widow, and like, for the rest of the night I was walking around, I was like, wait, that's something I've always done.

Don't know, maybe it's just me, but like you walk out of a movie theater and you like see like a character and you think they're so cool or whatever, and you walk out and you're like, like, this is my new character. When I was younger, I used to do that all the time. I think that's what makes you an actress. Yeah, seriously, we're walking out of the first Avengers movie, and I like thought I was black widow, and like, for the rest of the night I was walking around, I was like, wait, that's something I've always done.

I could totally see you casted for a Marvel type of movie.

I could totally see you casted for a Marvel type of movie.

Oh my god, that'd be so incredible. Really would that be? Yeah, that'd be a cool role.

Oh my god, that'd be so incredible. Really would that be? Yeah, that'd be a cool role.

Yes, superhero anything would be so cool, especially like that whole Marvel face, Like that was my whole upbringing.

Yes, superhero anything would be so cool, especially like that whole Marvel face, Like that was my whole upbringing.

I just I loved it so much.

I just I loved it so much.

I recently just rewatched all of them in chronological order. So good, so good. Yeah, I'm so grateful to have grown up with all of those movies. So the Marvel stuff, the Marvel stuff is so interesting too.

I recently just rewatched all of them in chronological order. So good, so good. Yeah, I'm so grateful to have grown up with all of those movies. So the Marvel stuff, the Marvel stuff is so interesting too.

Because it was funny because we were at the Captain America. Uh, I had ran with Danny Ramirez, and then we went after the run to the premiere because our uber driver that picked us up happened to be this like big Marvel fan and he and I don't know that much about Marvel, and he was saying how it's like when you get casted for a Marvel movie, you really become a part of the Marvel universe in a way, and your your careacter evolves yeah, and I never knew that. I was like, it's so interesting. So, yeah, that Anthony Mackie is Captain America. It's a very big deal for Oh yeah, the so cool, Like I had no idea.

Because it was funny because we were at the Captain America. Uh, I had ran with Danny Ramirez, and then we went after the run to the premiere because our uber driver that picked us up happened to be this like big Marvel fan and he and I don't know that much about Marvel, and he was saying how it's like when you get casted for a Marvel movie, you really become a part of the Marvel universe in a way, and your your careacter evolves yeah, and I never knew that. I was like, it's so interesting. So, yeah, that Anthony Mackie is Captain America. It's a very big deal for Oh yeah, the so cool, Like I had no idea.

No, yeah, it's so cool.

No, yeah, it's so cool.

I feel like in Marvel and also in DC, like they introduce characters like two three movies ahead and they're like in a couple of scenes and then they like it like all intertwines together and like everything is for a reason.

I feel like in Marvel and also in DC, like they introduce characters like two three movies ahead and they're like in a couple of scenes and then they like it like all intertwines together and like everything is for a reason.

It's so cool.

It's so cool.

And yeah, and Anthony Mackie has been a part of the universe for oh my god, so long, like right, so it's so cool to see like where his character has progressed.

And yeah, and Anthony Mackie has been a part of the universe for oh my god, so long, like right, so it's so cool to see like where his character has progressed.

And yeah, Marvel is really cool for that. I need to go down a deep dive of Marvel because what the hell.

And yeah, Marvel is really cool for that. I need to go down a deep dive of Marvel because what the hell.

Yeah, I was like, are from like in chronological order, like and watched all of them.

Yeah, I was like, are from like in chronological order, like and watched all of them.

It's so good. It's really really well done.

It's so good. It's really really well done.

Maybe I'll switch from White Looatus to to to Marvel.

Maybe I'll switch from White Looatus to to to Marvel.

We're talking about whiteloads.

We're talking about whiteloads.

Yeah, okay, let's talk about singing. So you just released a new single. How was the release. Are you feeling about it? Are you excited? Yeah, I'm really excited.

Yeah, okay, let's talk about singing. So you just released a new single. How was the release. Are you feeling about it? Are you excited? Yeah, I'm really excited.

I just released a new song, Picky, like last week and it's doing like I'm really happy with it, I think.

I just released a new song, Picky, like last week and it's doing like I'm really happy with it, I think.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I started releasing music in November of twenty no, February, wait in like twenty twenty four. Kind of recent, yeah, super recent.

I started releasing music in November of twenty no, February, wait in like twenty twenty four. Kind of recent, yeah, super recent.

Wow.

Wow.

Yeah, it's been a long journey.

Yeah, it's been a long journey.

I feel like I've always been like writing music and loving songwriting and everything since I was younger. But because I was a theater kid, I thought you just like perform on stage, and that was kind of it.

I feel like I've always been like writing music and loving songwriting and everything since I was younger. But because I was a theater kid, I thought you just like perform on stage, and that was kind of it.

My imagination kind of didn't expand there.

My imagination kind of didn't expand there.

I didn't realize that you could, like, you know, learn how to do it on like produce on your computer or go into a recording studio. Like I really did not know that world at all or how it worked. And so when I was working on Zombies, like there's a producer of every song, and so I just started working with one of the producers and kind of just starting music from there. But it's just been a really long journey because a lot of the music I've released, even though I love it so much, it's always been kind of in like it never was through Disney, but it was always like keeping the Disney Channel audience in mind and it being like geared towards the younger audience, and like, honestly, at the time when I was younger, like my music taste is so eclectic and all over the place. Like when I was eighteen, I wanted to do like pure R and B and like that was like my vibe, which is like not necessarily what I wanted, but I just as a kid, like you're just figuring out yourself and who you want to be. And I had no idea what I wanted my music to sound like. It was more just like the artists that I loved, I just wanted to be like them. And so now I feel like I finally figured out like who I am or starting to and kind of like blending all of my influences and kind of like on sound.

I didn't realize that you could, like, you know, learn how to do it on like produce on your computer or go into a recording studio. Like I really did not know that world at all or how it worked. And so when I was working on Zombies, like there's a producer of every song, and so I just started working with one of the producers and kind of just starting music from there. But it's just been a really long journey because a lot of the music I've released, even though I love it so much, it's always been kind of in like it never was through Disney, but it was always like keeping the Disney Channel audience in mind and it being like geared towards the younger audience, and like, honestly, at the time when I was younger, like my music taste is so eclectic and all over the place. Like when I was eighteen, I wanted to do like pure R and B and like that was like my vibe, which is like not necessarily what I wanted, but I just as a kid, like you're just figuring out yourself and who you want to be. And I had no idea what I wanted my music to sound like. It was more just like the artists that I loved, I just wanted to be like them. And so now I feel like I finally figured out like who I am or starting to and kind of like blending all of my influences and kind of like on sound.

So anyway, it's long story short.

So anyway, it's long story short.

I've started releasing music because I feel like I'm at a good place now to like actually be like one hundred percent proud of the stuff that I'm releasing. And yeah, so it's all working towards an EP in the spring, which is really fun, and yeah, I'm really excited about it. Like I just feel like what we were talking about earlier with social media, Like it feels really authentic and just me, and I think that's why I'm so proud of it, because it's just me so exactly.

I've started releasing music because I feel like I'm at a good place now to like actually be like one hundred percent proud of the stuff that I'm releasing. And yeah, so it's all working towards an EP in the spring, which is really fun, and yeah, I'm really excited about it. Like I just feel like what we were talking about earlier with social media, Like it feels really authentic and just me, and I think that's why I'm so proud of it, because it's just me so exactly.

It's different than playing a part where you're playing a character. It's like you are showcasing yourself and what you love. How would you describe your sound and who are your influences?

It's different than playing a part where you're playing a character. It's like you are showcasing yourself and what you love. How would you describe your sound and who are your influences?

Oh goodness, there's so many influences I feel like right now, like in my Bag and Picky, and then the next one coming out as well is very inspired by like early two thousands, like R and B and hip hop.

Oh goodness, there's so many influences I feel like right now, like in my Bag and Picky, and then the next one coming out as well is very inspired by like early two thousands, like R and B and hip hop.

It's still very pop.

It's still very pop.

I feel like the melodies are very poppy because I also love pop as well, but it's yeah, really inspired by that kind of like Y two K era, because that's I feel like, like the late or just all of nineties, Like early two thousands is like the golden age of R and B and hip hop.

I feel like the melodies are very poppy because I also love pop as well, but it's yeah, really inspired by that kind of like Y two K era, because that's I feel like, like the late or just all of nineties, Like early two thousands is like the golden age of R and B and hip hop.

So yeah, it's really cool.

So yeah, it's really cool.

And then I also love yacht rock, so a lot of the songs upcoming have a lot of like yacht rock influences.

And then I also love yacht rock, so a lot of the songs upcoming have a lot of like yacht rock influences.

What is yacht rock? Why do I not know what that is? It's like.

What is yacht rock? Why do I not know what that is? It's like.

It's like eighty like eighties synths, like kind of like like what would be like a yacht rock song like Africa by Toto.

It's like eighty like eighties synths, like kind of like like what would be like a yacht rock song like Africa by Toto.

I don't know, Oh my god, yes, yes, are like, oh.

I don't know, Oh my god, yes, yes, are like, oh.

That's so cool to do magic then or like Steely Dan vibes, Like it's all very like it's basically rock that you'd play.

That's so cool to do magic then or like Steely Dan vibes, Like it's all very like it's basically rock that you'd play.

On a yacht in the middle of the ocean, and you're.

On a yacht in the middle of the ocean, and you're.

Just kind of like, Okay, now I'm getting the Bob Marley shit right.

Just kind of like, Okay, now I'm getting the Bob Marley shit right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Also, I mean my number one influence is Bob Marley. I love that none of my songs really have like reggae influence in there, but his like just life philosophy, just like struggling with a lot of anxiety growing up, he was like the only music and like I would watch his interviews and like he's like the only thing that would like help me get through just a lot of like hard times growing up as a kid, because like everything he says is just that everything's gonna be okay, everything's gonna be all right.

Also, I mean my number one influence is Bob Marley. I love that none of my songs really have like reggae influence in there, but his like just life philosophy, just like struggling with a lot of anxiety growing up, he was like the only music and like I would watch his interviews and like he's like the only thing that would like help me get through just a lot of like hard times growing up as a kid, because like everything he says is just that everything's gonna be okay, everything's gonna be all right.

So I was like, you're right, Bob, I need to go back and watch his interviews because I feel like I've never seen a Bob Marley interview. Yeah, And I could imagine how that's calming when you're feeling anxious about something. Because I feel like he was so successful and just had this really calm demeanor to him.

So I was like, you're right, Bob, I need to go back and watch his interviews because I feel like I've never seen a Bob Marley interview. Yeah, And I could imagine how that's calming when you're feeling anxious about something. Because I feel like he was so successful and just had this really calm demeanor to him.

I was like, it's all good. Oh yeah, no, it's incredible.

I was like, it's all good. Oh yeah, no, it's incredible.

Like I feel like reggae is like the most amazing and also a lot of like Island Gay listened to, like like like Polynesian reggae so incredible, and like it just instantly soothes you and calms you down and like puts you at ease, especially if you're feeling stressed or anything like that. So like, I think reggae is a huge part of my life in that way because it just really helps with just you know, my stress level.

Like I feel like reggae is like the most amazing and also a lot of like Island Gay listened to, like like like Polynesian reggae so incredible, and like it just instantly soothes you and calms you down and like puts you at ease, especially if you're feeling stressed or anything like that. So like, I think reggae is a huge part of my life in that way because it just really helps with just you know, my stress level.

So that's so cool.

So that's so cool.

Yeah, I feel like I know you're an East Coast girl, yes, growing up huh. But being in LA, we're here for you know, we've been here for the past month, We're gonna be here for a little bit longer. And I feel like every time I come here from New York, I instantly feel calmer. Yeah yeah, right, Like having grown up in New York, do you feel like now living in LA.