Harvey Mason Jr. has worked with some of the most influential artists in history — and now leads the Grammys.

In this conversation, the Recording Academy CEO reflects on what he learned from working closely with icons like Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, and Mariah Carey, and how those lessons shaped the way he thinks about excellence, pressure, and creative longevity.

He also opens up about the Grammys: how voting actually works, why it remains peer-led, what changed after public criticism, and what most people never see in the weeks leading up to music’s biggest night.

This episode is about greatness — how it’s built, how it’s sustained, and how it’s judged — from someone who has lived on both sides of it.