Point God is a production of I Heart Radio. Bro, we have some killer young guards. You understand me, Like I remember growing up, I'm like eighth grade or something like that, and I used to stay around and watch y'all play ladies, channel, man, boys, girls, people, my people. We are back. Point God podcast show presented by Slick. Shout out to I Heart Media. I am your host, Baron Davis, a K A Boom Diesel a K A Boom a K A b D. And The Point God's Show is the show excuse me, my fumble. No. That is a show that goes into the minds of all the great Point Guards, their story, their journey, what makes them them, what makes them one of ones. Point God's happened on all levels. Point Gods exists in all shapes and forms, and on this show we all get the privilege of meeting some of the most incredible minds, incredible visionaries, an incredible one of the ones. Ladies and gentlemen, you already know if I'm moving this slow, something is coming another one. Like DJ Kelly would say this episode, it's very near and dear to me because I got two guests today. I have the culture of l A basketball, I have the pioneers and footprints that planeted the seeds for the Hardens, for the Westbrooks, the gatekeepers, the pioneers, the amplifiers, the soldiers, the Warriors, by any means necessary, these two young men are what dreams are made of. These two young men are what leaf and goals and love for the game of basketball is made of. In their DNA bleeds basketball, in their professionalism breeds basketball. And then their pioneering right in their journey to make it to the NBA, to play overseas, to win championships overseas, to play in the Olympics for another country, to go back to the league, to go back overseas. The love, the dedication, the time, the energy that it takes for l A to remain the point guy capital of basketball. You need the gate keepers, ladies and gentlemen. First young man Helling out of Los Angeles, California, actually Guardina, California, Guar Sarah High School legend. Real men, watch this young man grow up and just always be the smallest dude, always around the game on the Portland's cracked right and then took this journey overseas Little G League or D League what it was called back overseas, landed with the Sacramento Kings, balled in the league, came back home to start lace in the middle of his basketball career. Los Angeles creates, endless dreams, the founder of the Black Coaches Association, the man who moves with love. He loves the game, the game loves him and everyone else. I've watched him or been a part of his life and his journey, and I'm inspired by him. Ladies and gentlemen, and you will to the almanac, the Encyclopedia of l a basketball Pooh Jetta, and I don't see pool without seeing this young man. Similar journey, different journey out of Los Angeles, California, west Chester High School. Grew and grew and grew and stay patient. I've never seen this dude without a basketball as a kid. He waited his turn, the example of patience, the example of confidence, the example of creativity, and the brother to all the brothers. And his love took him the fuller teon ball. There overlooked you know what I mean, stayed on his journey, got in the league, ball with the rockets. Crack Pooh cracked me with uh Sacramento. This food cracked me in New Orleans, you know what I mean, and really became the sauce behind a lot of your great point guys, Chris Paul's the Hardens. Everybody needs a sauce maker, Everybody needs somebody to cook up with. We played together on the Clippers. He was he was, he was my sault. We was cooking up sauce together, right, stay patient in his journey a champion of international, champion of international m f baller. I don't know if I don't even been cussing on I know GP be cussing on the show with a motherfucking baller. Laziness, gentlemen, none other there, Bobby, where your ones app? Okay pooh lb okay man. This is this is like, this is incredible. This is incredible. This is the point guy show. You know what I mean. This is like my childhood, my my, my, uh like my whole life. So it's like and and now I get to like, let y'all talk and so with that, right, I mean, it's a lot to talk about when we talk about l A basketball and just like talk about the era and the time of basketball you grew you both grew up in because you you same same age, um, same age, similar age and really like that era right and what it was like, you know growing up in in l A as a young basketball player, you know what I mean, Um, like on this circuit and in the mix, and then just like tell us a little bit about your story. Start with you, Poe Bro. That was amazing and come on, especially coming from somebody who you know, really gave us the blueprint. You feel me like you know every time, like you know when we are around you like you the reason of course you know God, of course you feeling. But God planted you in our lives at an early age. It's like you know, we all, you know, we all grew up with Darth. You know, we got a salute dark stamps of my history with you, you know. Um but you know me being from Guardina of course you know, Uh I played my parking record Denker Park, you know because of my my neighbor across the street. You know, really Booby rest in peace. You know his dad was the parking rector director at Dinker Park and our pops. You know, once we found out level, it was like we were gonna, We're gonna play in this hood. Big Jane shout out to Big Jane Hey, hey, hey, big Jene, come on, man, poo big Jane. At the games, he was the he was the entertainment in the stands. Oh my god, shout out to Coach Bell. Listen, man, come on man, Coach Bell. You got you got, you got, you got a big gene over there. You got Coach Bill. What is it like as a kid, right for real? What like what is it like playing you know what I mean in that environment with a dad like that and for a coach like you know what I and you got to explain how they are because I think it's the funniest ship in the world. So my dad, of course, and I would say, coach bet are the loudest, like everybody in the gym knew that not only that they love their kids, but they loved every kid on the on the team and that and that was and that's a great you know as be like looking back at it now, it's like dang, like amazing dads, you know, yeah, me, Dad, Like Dad's with presents you know around this top, you know. And and it's a father too. A lot of the kids who didn't have a pops, so doing it during that time, as you know, like especially once we got up and start playing with Dart. I was a think LB what you was Tim when you started playing with Dark Yeah? Yeah so um and that was that was top Prospects one at the top BB yep BB yeah yeah. I use for a better American, for a better America a hard bed. Were you part of p t I at first or not? I was never a part of pt I. That was Kay Swiss about this. We was Kate Swiss early. Yeah, we was Kate Swiss because Coach Ball was like, you know, we're gonna play with Kay Swiss. That was my first time seeing keeling that Ali. I was like, man, this yo, yo yo, we gotta tap in real quick with let's hear a quick word from our sponsors. Yeah you uh uh a little bit yeah, b b J all right bro, we had some killer young guards. You understand me. Like I remember growing up, I'm like, what was I like? I had to be in like eighth grade or something like that, and I used to stay around and watch y'all play. Right, y'all were so good. All of y'all. Y'all were so good. Doug with p WC Panthers, like y'all was like I was like Damn dude, these these little dudes are going at it right you kiling b J LB. Who else is in that? Wesley Stokes is he owner than y'all? Williams, Marcus Williams. Lord have mercy, j Lord have mercy. Bro l A was like a hot bed. Yeah. L A was like a hot bed for town. And you got V B A ran By Dark Stamps, p t I, Pat Barrett, Uh that had k swiss is he had uh slamming jam yeah? Uh? And then what was the dudes with Walter Smalls and tam four d Yes people A R. C. Be Ball was hard and who was the gingerbread man? Yeah? Yeah, yeah he played playing against him him and yeah. So the thing is as you had to bring it because even when I was at Banker, uh, coach was like, man, you you you really want to see I'll tell you are you better go to Ran show. So when I went to ran Show for that year and played with e J and that's where I've seen l being everybody, I was like, oh this is I can't in here. And then from K S Wests of course, then we go over there to with with Dart and then uh then you know patting Dark, you know, split up and my pops is right now, we're gonna stay with Dark. And by us staying with Dart, that was a whole environment because you already know how Dart is. Dart is on something like yo, like, Homie, ain't no busters over here, Homie ain't doing ain't doing that. How is Dark talking to the kids when y'all was at the Nationals? Dude? What was Dark saying that y'all? When y'all was what was it tending? Under eleven? And under it? Uh? Not with Dart? And I was like eleven at Nationals custing us out, plants off against par and do it like against chic, you know, just playing just not what we're supposed to be doing. Is it that week? Hey? Did I have the funniest story? Uh? Hey, you with Dark? Because we have. I used to have it and you team remember with nug and all them dudes. So I go to the North Carolina Bob Giving shootout right and we play against DC assault and it's a it's a dude out there. He is playing slow as hell, bro, and he scores the ball every time. Every time. The dude had like forty five. And I'm like damn dude, Like, you're gonna let this dude just punk y'all. He ain't even doing nothing. I was like, this dude can't be that nice. Dark said, beat Beatty. I'm going off on the kids right now. This is my first time seeing him playing. I'm going off, like, y'all gotta wrap l a how we get down that Dark said, hey, Beatty, let me stop you in front of all the kids. That was Michael Beasley. It's cool, he said. He said, it's cool. They can't funk with Michael Beasley. It's cool. So Dart was like that type of air you coach like you feel me. But you know, with Dart being under that exam going to West Stepster like, Dart was able to definitely teach us the fundamentals of hoop, you know, because he likes, you know, coaches. Damn so us being around Dart like from sixth you know, like eighth grade around that time, he was ready. But then the beauty that I always tell people is you in high school around this time, being the number one player in the world, but still coming back to the community really coaching us too. I'll never forget when we went to us a camp throw when your first year at us l A are a second year, we all go to use like camp because that's when like the best players in the city would go. We was this the first day we were supposed to be on the tour with the USA, like coaches, we wish you you showing us around the campus because how your mind was you was on something like, first of all, y'all have to be better than me. So like having that example early with somebody that was McDonald's best player in the world and giving us this is um like yo, like I'm I'm gonna give y'all a blueprint. So that's why you see like a lot of us at like what's coming out because it wasn't married who else like as pro players would like that was in the community with us being the best in the world. Be like, I always gotta salute you on that because you like you gave us a vision. But but y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all was a sauce, you know what I mean? It was like it was almost like anything that I found that was out there, you know what I mean. I like y'all were the only people I could bring it back to because you'd be excited, you know what I mean, Like when I came with the UH. I remember when Mark Carter showed me the UH the High Baltimore across the slow one, and then remember were all doing that, and we started all doing the iverson then we started all doing the neck bat of axel Man talk about there is something about l A Guards right, Like what is it? Yo? You know what time it is? You know this show wouldn't be where it is if it wasn't for our sponsors. Let them have it, LB. I think you need to answer that, like what what what is the ism? Like? Can you define what the ism is like with just being like, uh, l A are whether you are the m v P of the league or you frank nitty you know what I mean? You know because it's it's, it's and it's and it's no kind of like real hierarchy, you know what I mean? Because everybody is cold in their own right talking about that. I just feel like, I mean l A Guards, I mean our isn't we all got that? Like? Uh, like I don't give a like I don't give a funk attitude, Like who we're playing against? Who was this guard from here? Who's this guard from Like we all got that mindset, so we're all right, we're not about to like you got we got this like you said, frank NTI, we got guys. But he don't never start his like beef on the corporate people. They always started with him. So it's like we all were the guards that you know, they always labeled us like oh they laid back, you know they you know they sometow they say that people are soft, and this is that. But it's like when we're playing, we already know that we we got all this in our game, and then once that that engine gets turned on by something like an opponent or somebody, and then it's just like take sense to that next level, like I'm about to destroy you and I'm about to have fun doing it because I got a whole lot of like you said, we just saw. We got a whole lot of that, you know a game. It's like we don't back down from nobody. We're trying to take any anybody, any guards, like head off, like we come in with that mindset. No matter if you nba U, m v P or nothing like you said, come to the Julie, all that don't matter at all. So I mean that's our game. I mean l A Guards is this week got a lot of everything, Like we got a lot of guards that you got guards in New York that all they can do us break people down. We got guards that down issue they don't. They don't got people that got score at like we got it all. So talking about not being able to shoot and being an l A guard, you gotta be cold bloody, you gotta you gotta be like you gotta be Kenny Bruner, you gotta be man straight think like. But but the thing is, the thing is you wasn't allowing no busters around you. So like so us having that mentally earlier, we over there going at each other crazy because so we want to We we pushed each other to the fullest, especially going against l being bottoms being bottoms every day and we all will like we all want to do like we're always trying to be like I'll have more wins and all y'all. It's always been that. It's like, yeah, so I feel like I know that's that's what made it, made it made us you know how we are right now as well? For sure, like our close you know, a group of you know people that we hang out with every day, and it's going to battle with him every day and being in competition. When we all went to college, like after the game, we're gonna check the games. You know, they like you trying to push each other like that. It was never no jealousy between all of us, none of that like we've all come and talk about. It was never that. It was everybody motivating each other because we knew our common goal. We all want to go to the league and just be successful, whether it's NBA Europe like we didn't know nothing about no year. We're trying to go to the right right. I mean, it's like I'm I feel like I'm living all that in real life with y'all, you know at the time, because y'all cracking in college, you know what I mean, you both playing at you know, smaller D one right, and a lot of times it's like you're busting Pete. You know, you're busting people. Ask who who who are? They're saying our bona Fide pros right from bona Fide programs talk about like you know, yeah, yeah, go ahead, no, and then I mean basically like you know, you're saying, like our error, Like in college, you know, it was always about going to the big schools. Dude, you cons Carolina, U, C, A C. Like all of that was the era for us. It's like the era now it's like all all the people want to be majors and pregnant. So you know, our schools was like frowned upon back then. But you know when it was frowned upon, that made us don't hard because it's like, all right, well, I want to look at the footas and you want to look at Porta like this, why should we do to this school? Right? Because and we and while we was at college, Yeah, they wanted to they want to need to transfer atter my sophomore year. But I was like no, I mean it's the school gave me the keys. You know, they're letting me. You know, do you know what I want to do? You know, playing at my high potential, Like why would I go to UK? Why want to go to UH? Or say I don't know about the transfer stay right, yeah, talk about that because a lot of kids like and even as saying our ara, a lot of kids get caught up in you know, I'm at a small school and now I'm going to you know, a bigger school and you know, we saw that with uh one of the little one of our little hommies who was like, you know, it's like talk about how being a man at a small school and like like and holding that down, like the responsibility, you know what I mean versus like running to find a bigger school. It may not work out, you know what I'm saying, yeah, because I mean for it's like, all right, I'm gonna do my situation with me. Obviously in high school, like you said, I had to wait my time. I was patient. Um, I don't really get a chance to play into my senior year. So my senior year I played. You know, I have a seven team. I was with Trevor, a big grid um obviously when they were getting all the follow looks and all the scholarship offers and this and that U C. L A, Kent States and or whatever, and you know, I'm you know, I'm the PG of the team. You know, I'm holding my own. I'm playing good. It's my senior year is my only time I've got to really boot. And then going into you know, after my senior years over we one CD and sake. I had no offers, no nothing. So in my mind on my mind. You know, I always had the ship since I was since I started going shipping my shoulder and Ben Whold my whole life. So it's like seeing you know, Trim go grigging this offer go to kid's sake. I had to play Summer A You to get my deal. So it was like, all right, I gotta go even harder. So when they used to be calling me like yo, what you wrong, what you're doing? My mom be like y'all know he downstairs to jump overall know he's downstairs and driven, like going to sleep at eight o'clock every night. Like I'm trying to grow. I'm trying to I'm doing all this like it's in my mind, like no, I ain't got no scholarship, but I gotta. I gotta figure it out. So I played Summer A you for listing, gave you offered uh game a scholarship, and I just said to myself like, bro, like I'm about to make this school of basketball school and I'm turning into something. Because it was baseball, all baseball. They one, you know, the World Series. My freshman year just shout out to Justin Turner um, and you know my first year, I just destroyed as a as a as a freshman, and then you know, like the buzzes out like had twenty seven on USC as a freshman, and it was just like damn, who was this? Like why why is he a fulishing? Why is he you know, why when are they looking at this ging? And it was just like I like that, Like I don't want people to be talking like that. So now I can just short all these point guards that yall had ahead of us, all these other you know teams that you know, got these players. It was like, I'm gonna just do my thing here. And then once how I got the keys and the coach believed in me, it was like, well I'm not transferring like they was loyal to me, like I'm not reading. And I just every every single year and just continued to like be you know, bring ad some to my game and just be better and try to ring. We we we've been a stilled the winning culture since you were dark and that took us through high school when it was in who he gave us all all advice and all the twos and run a great coach, you know, he he got all of us you know playing you know, and learn the fundamentals early. So once we got to college, it was it was easy for us. So he made the easy closes to go with that. And then you know, I just four years of schoon and I had you know, big red transfer the Fullers in the hire transfer Fullas and so it's like these guys will be the georgiatown Kent States to come to Fullist. So it's like, damn, I must be doing something good over here. I must be doing something right. So it's like now that the kids, you know, I want to go to you can I want to go to do man, go to where they want you to be and they want you to who and you can play comfortably. You ain't gotta play like a robot or none of that. Like you play, you over watch your game. So for me, you know, that was you know that, that's always been like the thing that pushed push me every every season, whether I'm in Europe or China or whatever, like I always had in the back of my mind. So I didn't get to play it to my senior year. So all this, all of this like it was out the mud for real. So like man, and it was like you finally got a chance to play. So it's like your senior year, you know, like you didn't play, you didn't play your junior your sophomore year. He was. Yeah, Westchester was a hard school to crack open, you know what I mean, And that they always had guards from Jay Hart Danny. It was just always like a dope guard school. And you know, especially for the people on this show, like Westchester in l A. Is one of the prominent high schools, you know that took the torch from Crenshaw because Crenshaw had for a while in Westchester, and Crenshaw always had this rivalry Guardena and Sarah. You know, Sarah was like the c I F school, So Sarah Crossroads used to go at it back in the day. Point Guard is a production of I Heart Radio for More podcast from my Heart Radio. Is it the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. H

Point God is a production of I Heart Radio. Bro, we have some killer young guards. You understand me, Like I remember growing up, I'm like eighth grade or something like that, and I used to stay around and watch y'all play ladies, channel, man, boys, girls, people, my people. We are back. Point God podcast show presented by Slick. Shout out to I Heart Media. I am your host, Baron Davis, a K A Boom Diesel a K A Boom a K A b D. And The Point God's Show is the show excuse me, my fumble. No. That is a show that goes into the minds of all the great Point Guards, their story, their journey, what makes them them, what makes them one of ones. Point God's happened on all levels. Point Gods exists in all shapes and forms, and on this show we all get the privilege of meeting some of the most incredible minds, incredible visionaries, an incredible one of the ones. Ladies and gentlemen, you already know if I'm moving this slow, something is coming another one. Like DJ Kelly would say this episode, it's very near and dear to me because I got two guests today. I have the culture of l A basketball, I have the pioneers and footprints that planeted the seeds for the Hardens, for the Westbrooks, the gatekeepers, the pioneers, the amplifiers, the soldiers, the Warriors, by any means necessary, these two young men are what dreams are made of. These two young men are what leaf and goals and love for the game of basketball is made of. In their DNA bleeds basketball, in their professionalism breeds basketball. And then their pioneering right in their journey to make it to the NBA, to play overseas, to win championships overseas, to play in the Olympics for another country, to go back to the league, to go back overseas. The love, the dedication, the time, the energy that it takes for l A to remain the point guy capital of basketball. You need the gate keepers, ladies and gentlemen. First young man Helling out of Los Angeles, California, actually Guardina, California, Guar Sarah High School legend. Real men, watch this young man grow up and just always be the smallest dude, always around the game on the Portland's cracked right and then took this journey overseas Little G League or D League what it was called back overseas, landed with the Sacramento Kings, balled in the league, came back home to start lace in the middle of his basketball career. Los Angeles creates, endless dreams, the founder of the Black Coaches Association, the man who moves with love. He loves the game, the game loves him and everyone else. I've watched him or been a part of his life and his journey, and I'm inspired by him. Ladies and gentlemen, and you will to the almanac, the Encyclopedia of l a basketball Pooh Jetta, and I don't see pool without seeing this young man. Similar journey, different journey out of Los Angeles, California, west Chester High School. Grew and grew and grew and stay patient. I've never seen this dude without a basketball as a kid. He waited his turn, the example of patience, the example of confidence, the example of creativity, and the brother to all the brothers. And his love took him the fuller teon ball. There overlooked you know what I mean, stayed on his journey, got in the league, ball with the rockets. Crack Pooh cracked me with uh Sacramento. This food cracked me in New Orleans, you know what I mean, and really became the sauce behind a lot of your great point guys, Chris Paul's the Hardens. Everybody needs a sauce maker, Everybody needs somebody to cook up with. We played together on the Clippers. He was he was, he was my sault. We was cooking up sauce together, right, stay patient in his journey a champion of international, champion of international m f baller. I don't know if I don't even been cussing on I know GP be cussing on the show with a motherfucking baller. Laziness, gentlemen, none other there, Bobby, where your ones app? Okay pooh lb okay man. This is this is like, this is incredible. This is incredible. This is the point guy show. You know what I mean. This is like my childhood, my my, my, uh like my whole life. So it's like and and now I get to like, let y'all talk and so with that, right, I mean, it's a lot to talk about when we talk about l A basketball and just like talk about the era and the time of basketball you grew you both grew up in because you you same same age, um, same age, similar age and really like that era right and what it was like, you know growing up in in l A as a young basketball player, you know what I mean, Um, like on this circuit and in the mix, and then just like tell us a little bit about your story. Start with you, Poe Bro. That was amazing and come on, especially coming from somebody who you know, really gave us the blueprint. You feel me like you know every time, like you know when we are around you like you the reason of course you know God, of course you feeling. But God planted you in our lives at an early age. It's like you know, we all, you know, we all grew up with Darth. You know, we got a salute dark stamps of my history with you, you know. Um but you know me being from Guardina of course you know, Uh I played my parking record Denker Park, you know because of my my neighbor across the street. You know, really Booby rest in peace. You know his dad was the parking rector director at Dinker Park and our pops. You know, once we found out level, it was like we were gonna, We're gonna play in this hood. Big Jane shout out to Big Jane Hey, hey, hey, big Jene, come on, man, poo big Jane. At the games, he was the he was the entertainment in the stands. Oh my god, shout out to Coach Bell. Listen, man, come on man, Coach Bell. You got you got, you got, you got a big gene over there. You got Coach Bill. What is it like as a kid, right for real? What like what is it like playing you know what I mean in that environment with a dad like that and for a coach like you know what I and you got to explain how they are because I think it's the funniest ship in the world. So my dad, of course, and I would say, coach bet are the loudest, like everybody in the gym knew that not only that they love their kids, but they loved every kid on the on the team and that and that was and that's a great you know as be like looking back at it now, it's like dang, like amazing dads, you know, yeah, me, Dad, Like Dad's with presents you know around this top, you know. And and it's a father too. A lot of the kids who didn't have a pops, so doing it during that time, as you know, like especially once we got up and start playing with Dart. I was a think LB what you was Tim when you started playing with Dark Yeah? Yeah so um and that was that was top Prospects one at the top BB yep BB yeah yeah. I use for a better American, for a better America a hard bed. Were you part of p t I at first or not? I was never a part of pt I. That was Kay Swiss about this. We was Kate Swiss early. Yeah, we was Kate Swiss because Coach Ball was like, you know, we're gonna play with Kay Swiss. That was my first time seeing keeling that Ali. I was like, man, this yo, yo yo, we gotta tap in real quick with let's hear a quick word from our sponsors. Yeah you uh uh a little bit yeah, b b J all right bro, we had some killer young guards. You understand me. Like I remember growing up, I'm like, what was I like? I had to be in like eighth grade or something like that, and I used to stay around and watch y'all play. Right, y'all were so good. All of y'all. Y'all were so good. Doug with p WC Panthers, like y'all was like I was like Damn dude, these these little dudes are going at it right you kiling b J LB. Who else is in that? Wesley Stokes is he owner than y'all? Williams, Marcus Williams. Lord have mercy, j Lord have mercy. Bro l A was like a hot bed. Yeah. L A was like a hot bed for town. And you got V B A ran By Dark Stamps, p t I, Pat Barrett, Uh that had k swiss is he had uh slamming jam yeah? Uh? And then what was the dudes with Walter Smalls and tam four d Yes people A R. C. Be Ball was hard and who was the gingerbread man? Yeah? Yeah, yeah he played playing against him him and yeah. So the thing is as you had to bring it because even when I was at Banker, uh, coach was like, man, you you you really want to see I'll tell you are you better go to Ran show. So when I went to ran Show for that year and played with e J and that's where I've seen l being everybody, I was like, oh this is I can't in here. And then from K S Wests of course, then we go over there to with with Dart and then uh then you know patting Dark, you know, split up and my pops is right now, we're gonna stay with Dark. And by us staying with Dart, that was a whole environment because you already know how Dart is. Dart is on something like yo, like, Homie, ain't no busters over here, Homie ain't doing ain't doing that. How is Dark talking to the kids when y'all was at the Nationals? Dude? What was Dark saying that y'all? When y'all was what was it tending? Under eleven? And under it? Uh? Not with Dart? And I was like eleven at Nationals custing us out, plants off against par and do it like against chic, you know, just playing just not what we're supposed to be doing. Is it that week? Hey? Did I have the funniest story? Uh? Hey, you with Dark? Because we have. I used to have it and you team remember with nug and all them dudes. So I go to the North Carolina Bob Giving shootout right and we play against DC assault and it's a it's a dude out there. He is playing slow as hell, bro, and he scores the ball every time. Every time. The dude had like forty five. And I'm like damn dude, Like, you're gonna let this dude just punk y'all. He ain't even doing nothing. I was like, this dude can't be that nice. Dark said, beat Beatty. I'm going off on the kids right now. This is my first time seeing him playing. I'm going off, like, y'all gotta wrap l a how we get down that Dark said, hey, Beatty, let me stop you in front of all the kids. That was Michael Beasley. It's cool, he said. He said, it's cool. They can't funk with Michael Beasley. It's cool. So Dart was like that type of air you coach like you feel me. But you know, with Dart being under that exam going to West Stepster like, Dart was able to definitely teach us the fundamentals of hoop, you know, because he likes, you know, coaches. Damn so us being around Dart like from sixth you know, like eighth grade around that time, he was ready. But then the beauty that I always tell people is you in high school around this time, being the number one player in the world, but still coming back to the community really coaching us too. I'll never forget when we went to us a camp throw when your first year at us l A are a second year, we all go to use like camp because that's when like the best players in the city would go. We was this the first day we were supposed to be on the tour with the USA, like coaches, we wish you you showing us around the campus because how your mind was you was on something like, first of all, y'all have to be better than me. So like having that example early with somebody that was McDonald's best player in the world and giving us this is um like yo, like I'm I'm gonna give y'all a blueprint. So that's why you see like a lot of us at like what's coming out because it wasn't married who else like as pro players would like that was in the community with us being the best in the world. Be like, I always gotta salute you on that because you like you gave us a vision. But but y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all was a sauce, you know what I mean? It was like it was almost like anything that I found that was out there, you know what I mean. I like y'all were the only people I could bring it back to because you'd be excited, you know what I mean, Like when I came with the UH. I remember when Mark Carter showed me the UH the High Baltimore across the slow one, and then remember were all doing that, and we started all doing the iverson then we started all doing the neck bat of axel Man talk about there is something about l A Guards right, Like what is it? Yo? You know what time it is? You know this show wouldn't be where it is if it wasn't for our sponsors. Let them have it, LB. I think you need to answer that, like what what what is the ism? Like? Can you define what the ism is like with just being like, uh, l A are whether you are the m v P of the league or you frank nitty you know what I mean? You know because it's it's, it's and it's and it's no kind of like real hierarchy, you know what I mean? Because everybody is cold in their own right talking about that. I just feel like, I mean l A Guards, I mean our isn't we all got that? Like? Uh, like I don't give a like I don't give a funk attitude, Like who we're playing against? Who was this guard from here? Who's this guard from Like we all got that mindset, so we're all right, we're not about to like you got we got this like you said, frank NTI, we got guys. But he don't never start his like beef on the corporate people. They always started with him. So it's like we all were the guards that you know, they always labeled us like oh they laid back, you know they you know they sometow they say that people are soft, and this is that. But it's like when we're playing, we already know that we we got all this in our game, and then once that that engine gets turned on by something like an opponent or somebody, and then it's just like take sense to that next level, like I'm about to destroy you and I'm about to have fun doing it because I got a whole lot of like you said, we just saw. We got a whole lot of that, you know a game. It's like we don't back down from nobody. We're trying to take any anybody, any guards, like head off, like we come in with that mindset. No matter if you nba U, m v P or nothing like you said, come to the Julie, all that don't matter at all. So I mean that's our game. I mean l A Guards is this week got a lot of everything, Like we got a lot of guards that you got guards in New York that all they can do us break people down. We got guards that down issue they don't. They don't got people that got score at like we got it all. So talking about not being able to shoot and being an l A guard, you gotta be cold bloody, you gotta you gotta be like you gotta be Kenny Bruner, you gotta be man straight think like. But but the thing is, the thing is you wasn't allowing no busters around you. So like so us having that mentally earlier, we over there going at each other crazy because so we want to We we pushed each other to the fullest, especially going against l being bottoms being bottoms every day and we all will like we all want to do like we're always trying to be like I'll have more wins and all y'all. It's always been that. It's like, yeah, so I feel like I know that's that's what made it, made it made us you know how we are right now as well? For sure, like our close you know, a group of you know people that we hang out with every day, and it's going to battle with him every day and being in competition. When we all went to college, like after the game, we're gonna check the games. You know, they like you trying to push each other like that. It was never no jealousy between all of us, none of that like we've all come and talk about. It was never that. It was everybody motivating each other because we knew our common goal. We all want to go to the league and just be successful, whether it's NBA Europe like we didn't know nothing about no year. We're trying to go to the right right. I mean, it's like I'm I feel like I'm living all that in real life with y'all, you know at the time, because y'all cracking in college, you know what I mean, you both playing at you know, smaller D one right, and a lot of times it's like you're busting Pete. You know, you're busting people. Ask who who who are? They're saying our bona Fide pros right from bona Fide programs talk about like you know, yeah, yeah, go ahead, no, and then I mean basically like you know, you're saying, like our error, Like in college, you know, it was always about going to the big schools. Dude, you cons Carolina, U, C, A C. Like all of that was the era for us. It's like the era now it's like all all the people want to be majors and pregnant. So you know, our schools was like frowned upon back then. But you know when it was frowned upon, that made us don't hard because it's like, all right, well, I want to look at the footas and you want to look at Porta like this, why should we do to this school? Right? Because and we and while we was at college, Yeah, they wanted to they want to need to transfer atter my sophomore year. But I was like no, I mean it's the school gave me the keys. You know, they're letting me. You know, do you know what I want to do? You know, playing at my high potential, Like why would I go to UK? Why want to go to UH? Or say I don't know about the transfer stay right, yeah, talk about that because a lot of kids like and even as saying our ara, a lot of kids get caught up in you know, I'm at a small school and now I'm going to you know, a bigger school and you know, we saw that with uh one of the little one of our little hommies who was like, you know, it's like talk about how being a man at a small school and like like and holding that down, like the responsibility, you know what I mean versus like running to find a bigger school. It may not work out, you know what I'm saying, yeah, because I mean for it's like, all right, I'm gonna do my situation with me. Obviously in high school, like you said, I had to wait my time. I was patient. Um, I don't really get a chance to play into my senior year. So my senior year I played. You know, I have a seven team. I was with Trevor, a big grid um obviously when they were getting all the follow looks and all the scholarship offers and this and that U C. L A, Kent States and or whatever, and you know, I'm you know, I'm the PG of the team. You know, I'm holding my own. I'm playing good. It's my senior year is my only time I've got to really boot. And then going into you know, after my senior years over we one CD and sake. I had no offers, no nothing. So in my mind on my mind. You know, I always had the ship since I was since I started going shipping my shoulder and Ben Whold my whole life. So it's like seeing you know, Trim go grigging this offer go to kid's sake. I had to play Summer A You to get my deal. So it was like, all right, I gotta go even harder. So when they used to be calling me like yo, what you wrong, what you're doing? My mom be like y'all know he downstairs to jump overall know he's downstairs and driven, like going to sleep at eight o'clock every night. Like I'm trying to grow. I'm trying to I'm doing all this like it's in my mind, like no, I ain't got no scholarship, but I gotta. I gotta figure it out. So I played Summer A you for listing, gave you offered uh game a scholarship, and I just said to myself like, bro, like I'm about to make this school of basketball school and I'm turning into something. Because it was baseball, all baseball. They one, you know, the World Series. My freshman year just shout out to Justin Turner um, and you know my first year, I just destroyed as a as a as a freshman, and then you know, like the buzzes out like had twenty seven on USC as a freshman, and it was just like damn, who was this? Like why why is he a fulishing? Why is he you know, why when are they looking at this ging? And it was just like I like that, Like I don't want people to be talking like that. So now I can just short all these point guards that yall had ahead of us, all these other you know teams that you know, got these players. It was like, I'm gonna just do my thing here. And then once how I got the keys and the coach believed in me, it was like, well I'm not transferring like they was loyal to me, like I'm not reading. And I just every every single year and just continued to like be you know, bring ad some to my game and just be better and try to ring. We we we've been a stilled the winning culture since you were dark and that took us through high school when it was in who he gave us all all advice and all the twos and run a great coach, you know, he he got all of us you know playing you know, and learn the fundamentals early. So once we got to college, it was it was easy for us. So he made the easy closes to go with that. And then you know, I just four years of schoon and I had you know, big red transfer the Fullers in the hire transfer Fullas and so it's like these guys will be the georgiatown Kent States to come to Fullist. So it's like, damn, I must be doing something good over here. I must be doing something right. So it's like now that the kids, you know, I want to go to you can I want to go to do man, go to where they want you to be and they want you to who and you can play comfortably. You ain't gotta play like a robot or none of that. Like you play, you over watch your game. So for me, you know, that was you know that, that's always been like the thing that pushed push me every every season, whether I'm in Europe or China or whatever, like I always had in the back of my mind. So I didn't get to play it to my senior year. So all this, all of this like it was out the mud for real. So like man, and it was like you finally got a chance to play. So it's like your senior year, you know, like you didn't play, you didn't play your junior your sophomore year. He was. Yeah, Westchester was a hard school to crack open, you know what I mean, And that they always had guards from Jay Hart Danny. It was just always like a dope guard school. And you know, especially for the people on this show, like Westchester in l A. Is one of the prominent high schools, you know that took the torch from Crenshaw because Crenshaw had for a while in Westchester, and Crenshaw always had this rivalry Guardena and Sarah. You know, Sarah was like the c I F school, So Sarah Crossroads used to go at it back in the day. Point Guard is a production of I Heart Radio for More podcast from my Heart Radio. Is it the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. H