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John.

John.

How you feeling man?

How you feeling man?

It was good man.

It was good man.

I'm super excited man, Just happy to be back for another episode. See it back chain on a LEXI see I got that UK gear own self.

I'm super excited man, Just happy to be back for another episode. See it back chain on a LEXI see I got that UK gear own self.

You know what's going on today?

You know what's going on today?

It's a it's a very special episode. I mean, I don't think it was our intention to be like a Kentucky pop but like you're your your history with the with the school is so rich. And then you know Boogie was on last week, and I wanna, I wanna tease our guests coming up in the show, our third episode, but we already got Basketball Hall of Famer the legend himself, Kentucky head coach John Caliperry joining us. How excited are you to talk to John today?

It's a it's a very special episode. I mean, I don't think it was our intention to be like a Kentucky pop but like you're your your history with the with the school is so rich. And then you know Boogie was on last week, and I wanna, I wanna tease our guests coming up in the show, our third episode, but we already got Basketball Hall of Famer the legend himself, Kentucky head coach John Caliperry joining us. How excited are you to talk to John today?

Super exciting man.

Super exciting man.

You know he's a coach I played for, somebody that I enjoyed played for, enjoy my time at get Tech. You I always had a great relationship with him, talking to him throughout the years of him coaching, And like I said, you see me in a lot of games this year, just trying to cheer on the guys and be able to support him. And I know how much it means to him to be able to have a relationship with all his old guys that used to play for him, and we have that kind of connection where we laugh and mill you know, I mean, we stick together. We're a brotherhood, and we all try to support each other throughout the NBA, college, overseas, wherever we're at.

You know he's a coach I played for, somebody that I enjoyed played for, enjoy my time at get Tech. You I always had a great relationship with him, talking to him throughout the years of him coaching, And like I said, you see me in a lot of games this year, just trying to cheer on the guys and be able to support him. And I know how much it means to him to be able to have a relationship with all his old guys that used to play for him, and we have that kind of connection where we laugh and mill you know, I mean, we stick together. We're a brotherhood, and we all try to support each other throughout the NBA, college, overseas, wherever we're at.

Yeah, he's got already so many alumni or so many alumni in the league. So I know we got March Maddness coming up and we're going to talk a little bit about that. But like it's crazy his influence on some of the biggest players in the league right now. So I'm really excited about that interview. But I wanted to talk about this past week in the NBA. You said, I just want to remind people how much are you watching the NBA. What's your setup, like at the crib right now.

Yeah, he's got already so many alumni or so many alumni in the league. So I know we got March Maddness coming up and we're going to talk a little bit about that. But like it's crazy his influence on some of the biggest players in the league right now. So I'm really excited about that interview. But I wanted to talk about this past week in the NBA. You said, I just want to remind people how much are you watching the NBA. What's your setup, like at the crib right now.

I got this big TV in my man cave and I split the screen into four, so I'm watching four games at a time. It kind of prepared me for me and March Maddens, you know, me March Madden's coming out, maybe to see all the games that when they had multiple games going on, especially like football Sunday, we get to watch all the games.

I got this big TV in my man cave and I split the screen into four, so I'm watching four games at a time. It kind of prepared me for me and March Maddens, you know, me March Madden's coming out, maybe to see all the games that when they had multiple games going on, especially like football Sunday, we get to watch all the games.

So you know, the NBA is different.

So you know, the NBA is different.

No mean, they don't really have too many games at the same time throughout the playoffs. But I may have this sit already and last night I was locked in watching games and stuff like that. So it's super exciting me and I just love watching the games. All my friends like, bro, how are you watching four games at one time? How are you paying attention? But that's all I care about, man, I just love watching the game of basketball.

No mean, they don't really have too many games at the same time throughout the playoffs. But I may have this sit already and last night I was locked in watching games and stuff like that. So it's super exciting me and I just love watching the games. All my friends like, bro, how are you watching four games at one time? How are you paying attention? But that's all I care about, man, I just love watching the game of basketball.

Yeah, this past week was crazy. It was a big Lebron week. And I know you have some stories with Lebron, but you played at his camp and we'll talk a little bit about that later, but you played at his camp. But this past week it was like the dude is like thirty nine, right, and he had that comeback against the Clippers. He just got the scoring record forty thousand points. So I know everyone always talks about this, but I would love your opinion on it. Do you think Lebron is the goat to.

Yeah, this past week was crazy. It was a big Lebron week. And I know you have some stories with Lebron, but you played at his camp and we'll talk a little bit about that later, but you played at his camp. But this past week it was like the dude is like thirty nine, right, and he had that comeback against the Clippers. He just got the scoring record forty thousand points. So I know everyone always talks about this, but I would love your opinion on it. Do you think Lebron is the goat to.

Each his own? You know what I mean?

Each his own? You know what I mean?

Like to whatever era, if you watch basketball or seen like you know what I mean, it's who you are, like you. I mean, a lot of people that played against Jordan called Jordana goat, you know, I mean, people that played against Kobe and seen like how dominating special Kobe were, they called Kobe the goat. And then some people put Kobe in a place where he's not even in the top five. I don't understand that because if that's the closest thing you see in Jordany has to be right there. And then Lebron, you know what I mean, he came in as a kid that I think had to live up to the most hype ever. I mean, coming in as projected to be this at eighteen years old and to Whistan and got to the point of, yeah, it's been special, you know what I mean, and being able to see it, It's like it don't make no senceany still be playing at this high level at this age I think the most somebody average at twenty one was probably like four points or five points, So I'm not mistaken. It's damn there's still averaging twenty eight to thirty points, and it just shows how much of he take care of himself, put the work in, and better itself. But some people you see young guys to day called Paul George, they go, you know what I mean? So I think it's all about the era you watched and who you watched and grew up playing. But the historic records he's breaking in the pedestal he's been on in the bar, he's set so hard for a lot of people have been a special you know, you can't do nothing but appreciate his greatness while he's here.

Like to whatever era, if you watch basketball or seen like you know what I mean, it's who you are, like you. I mean, a lot of people that played against Jordan called Jordana goat, you know, I mean, people that played against Kobe and seen like how dominating special Kobe were, they called Kobe the goat. And then some people put Kobe in a place where he's not even in the top five. I don't understand that because if that's the closest thing you see in Jordany has to be right there. And then Lebron, you know what I mean, he came in as a kid that I think had to live up to the most hype ever. I mean, coming in as projected to be this at eighteen years old and to Whistan and got to the point of, yeah, it's been special, you know what I mean, and being able to see it, It's like it don't make no senceany still be playing at this high level at this age I think the most somebody average at twenty one was probably like four points or five points, So I'm not mistaken. It's damn there's still averaging twenty eight to thirty points, and it just shows how much of he take care of himself, put the work in, and better itself. But some people you see young guys to day called Paul George, they go, you know what I mean? So I think it's all about the era you watched and who you watched and grew up playing. But the historic records he's breaking in the pedestal he's been on in the bar, he's set so hard for a lot of people have been a special you know, you can't do nothing but appreciate his greatness while he's here.

Yeah, I think your first year you came in right when it was his first year in Miami. Yeah, and so did you have any like specific stories of some of those battles are playing against the dude you had watched on TV in your first year he was Miami Bron.

Yeah, I think your first year you came in right when it was his first year in Miami. Yeah, and so did you have any like specific stories of some of those battles are playing against the dude you had watched on TV in your first year he was Miami Bron.

I think it was like the first year was kind of difficult or kind of different because they were still trying to figure out like d Way still the alpha dog, is Bron taking it over to the Alpha dolt. You know, Me and d Wade had already won one in those six and then they ad Chris Bosh to their team.

I think it was like the first year was kind of difficult or kind of different because they were still trying to figure out like d Way still the alpha dog, is Bron taking it over to the Alpha dolt. You know, Me and d Wade had already won one in those six and then they ad Chris Bosh to their team.

So I think they were trying to figure all that out.

So I think they were trying to figure all that out.

But they still was a great team in highlight, waiting to happen every time figure out the ball got on the fast break. For me, I just wanted to play well because I knew playing them, everybody was going to be at the building. Everybody's will come watch and see. I remember coming to Miami, they had some fire food. I mean before the game, they had some fire food.

But they still was a great team in highlight, waiting to happen every time figure out the ball got on the fast break. For me, I just wanted to play well because I knew playing them, everybody was going to be at the building. Everybody's will come watch and see. I remember coming to Miami, they had some fire food. I mean before the game, they had some fire food.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I think when Bron left the food menu changed because I went back one year. It was like, man, I want this order right here. They're like, man, hey, Bron gone, this ain't the same order no more. I'm like, but it was definitely some great battles, and uh there was a special team.

I think when Bron left the food menu changed because I went back one year. It was like, man, I want this order right here. They're like, man, hey, Bron gone, this ain't the same order no more. I'm like, but it was definitely some great battles, and uh there was a special team.

Man, it was definitely a special team.

Man, it was definitely a special team.

You know.

You know.

Shit, they went to four straight finals, so they'll let you know how special they was and got him going to eighth straight finals, so you know how good they was and how specially they was. And I think the first year they lost to the Mas and the finals when I'm mistaken. And then the next year they came back. There was a lockout year we played sixty six games. I think that's one of it. It was like, all right, were giving Bron to towards Bron as a franchise guy. Now d Wade took a back seat. Uh, and you see where the rest was history from there.

Shit, they went to four straight finals, so they'll let you know how special they was and got him going to eighth straight finals, so you know how good they was and how specially they was. And I think the first year they lost to the Mas and the finals when I'm mistaken. And then the next year they came back. There was a lockout year we played sixty six games. I think that's one of it. It was like, all right, were giving Bron to towards Bron as a franchise guy. Now d Wade took a back seat. Uh, and you see where the rest was history from there.

Dump all right, well, let's move on another big story that happened this past week. Caitlyn Clark, and I would love you know your thoughts. One, We're going to see if she's just declared for the w NBA Draft, so I'd love to hear if you have any advice for the future number one pick. We all know she's going one. But what was your reaction when you know when you watch her overall and then if you watched her, you know, get the scoring record on Sunday? What are your thoughts on Kaitlyn Clark special?

Dump all right, well, let's move on another big story that happened this past week. Caitlyn Clark, and I would love you know your thoughts. One, We're going to see if she's just declared for the w NBA Draft, so I'd love to hear if you have any advice for the future number one pick. We all know she's going one. But what was your reaction when you know when you watch her overall and then if you watched her, you know, get the scoring record on Sunday? What are your thoughts on Kaitlyn Clark special?

I think she's special man, one of a con for sure.

I think she's special man, one of a con for sure.

I mean, like we've seen so many people come in and be so special in its sport of basketball, women or men. I love the recognition these women basketball players are getting. From last year when I started watching Kaitlyn Clark, you know who she really was and the battle between Angel Reach and LSU and all these It's great that they getting that type exposure. I don't think they needed it. They deserve it. I mean, they're just as talented as us. They just do it more fundamental. They're not really dunking as much and things like that, but they bring incitement to the game. And that's what I was saying. On Sunday, I had ford screen split. One of those screens was Kaitlyn Clark. She broke it front the free throw line. So I kind of talked to you a little bit through Instagram last year and we exchanged numbers and trying to get the opportunity to try to go to a game and support you know what I mean. But she's definitely a talented bro like she has everybody locked in. She broke a record and nobody thought would be broken. It's crazy because Pistol Pete broke it without shooting threes, but that's just the era he was in to average forty.

I mean, like we've seen so many people come in and be so special in its sport of basketball, women or men. I love the recognition these women basketball players are getting. From last year when I started watching Kaitlyn Clark, you know who she really was and the battle between Angel Reach and LSU and all these It's great that they getting that type exposure. I don't think they needed it. They deserve it. I mean, they're just as talented as us. They just do it more fundamental. They're not really dunking as much and things like that, but they bring incitement to the game. And that's what I was saying. On Sunday, I had ford screen split. One of those screens was Kaitlyn Clark. She broke it front the free throw line. So I kind of talked to you a little bit through Instagram last year and we exchanged numbers and trying to get the opportunity to try to go to a game and support you know what I mean. But she's definitely a talented bro like she has everybody locked in. She broke a record and nobody thought would be broken. It's crazy because Pistol Pete broke it without shooting threes, but that's just the era he was in to average forty.

It's crazy in three years, but.

It's crazy in three years, but.

For her to come and do it, like not only break the women's record, but come and break the men record that we didn't think was going to be broken up. That just lets you know how special people are advancing and changing. The game is evolved, you know what I mean, Like she has killer step back going left. She's but it ain't just scoring for me, Like she's helping her team win. She's getting triple double, so she's getting eight or nine sister nights. So she's just not only looking to score for herself. She's trying to make her team better. And look at a small town like I'm a small state like Ayua, and then look at the school like nobody expect them to have a player like that 'll be on a mark like that. So just to see how amazing the fan base being throughout their tournament run last year and what they're doing this year, it's very special and it's like to see.

For her to come and do it, like not only break the women's record, but come and break the men record that we didn't think was going to be broken up. That just lets you know how special people are advancing and changing. The game is evolved, you know what I mean, Like she has killer step back going left. She's but it ain't just scoring for me, Like she's helping her team win. She's getting triple double, so she's getting eight or nine sister nights. So she's just not only looking to score for herself. She's trying to make her team better. And look at a small town like I'm a small state like Ayua, and then look at the school like nobody expect them to have a player like that 'll be on a mark like that. So just to see how amazing the fan base being throughout their tournament run last year and what they're doing this year, it's very special and it's like to see.

John, can you speak on just like what she might be going through what you went through from you know, being that top dog in college and then coming to the pro game, Like were there some things that you had to change up or were there some surprises that you had making that transition from being a college star and then you know, eventually becoming an NBA star.

John, can you speak on just like what she might be going through what you went through from you know, being that top dog in college and then coming to the pro game, Like were there some things that you had to change up or were there some surprises that you had making that transition from being a college star and then you know, eventually becoming an NBA star.

Oh, one thing, I.

Oh, one thing, I.

Think she has more media spotlight, you know what I mean, like I always had a little bit, but social media was not at the place it is now, you know. I mean, like you always, like I always tell somebody it's a gift and the curse to be who you are when you're on that spotlight in pedal stool, because it's always a camera or somebody watching you twenty four to seven. And uh, that's something we'd have to get adjusted to and learn from. But I think for her, she did four years of college, so she's very, very experienced, you know. I mean it's a difference for me where I did one year. I had to get adjusted to the speed of the game, the physicality of the game, just understanding like what the NBA was all about, you know. I mean, you get a lot of free time to yourself that you probably don't get in college, and it's like what do I do with this free time?

Think she has more media spotlight, you know what I mean, like I always had a little bit, but social media was not at the place it is now, you know. I mean, like you always, like I always tell somebody it's a gift and the curse to be who you are when you're on that spotlight in pedal stool, because it's always a camera or somebody watching you twenty four to seven. And uh, that's something we'd have to get adjusted to and learn from. But I think for her, she did four years of college, so she's very, very experienced, you know. I mean it's a difference for me where I did one year. I had to get adjusted to the speed of the game, the physicality of the game, just understanding like what the NBA was all about, you know. I mean, you get a lot of free time to yourself that you probably don't get in college, and it's like what do I do with this free time?

And so I think her she's.

And so I think her she's.

Like develop into a grown woman already, so she knows how to handle herself and stand like that. I came in in eighteen turning nineteen basically, so I'm trying to figure everything out, make sure I have a good team around me, you know, all those type of things. So I think she's been a good headspace and I think she'd do fin It was a little bit.

Like develop into a grown woman already, so she knows how to handle herself and stand like that. I came in in eighteen turning nineteen basically, so I'm trying to figure everything out, make sure I have a good team around me, you know, all those type of things. So I think she's been a good headspace and I think she'd do fin It was a little bit.

Of more justment for me.

Of more justment for me.

Yeah, I'm excited to see her in the tournament coming up.

Yeah, I'm excited to see her in the tournament coming up.

But yeah, I can't wait to see the tournament.

But yeah, I can't wait to see the tournament.

And so let's talk about that because I feel like in the last few years the women's tournament has gotten a little bit, you know, way, not way more attention but than the men's but definitely people are really tuning out. I think there were some TV ratings that got broke.

And so let's talk about that because I feel like in the last few years the women's tournament has gotten a little bit, you know, way, not way more attention but than the men's but definitely people are really tuning out. I think there were some TV ratings that got broke.

So what is that?

So what is that?

Like the women's game is just super exciting right now, but the tournament itself is garnering a lot of attention. What has changed is it? You know, we're knowing about some of the players more specifically, what do you think is leading to the success of the women's college tournament growing?

Like the women's game is just super exciting right now, but the tournament itself is garnering a lot of attention. What has changed is it? You know, we're knowing about some of the players more specifically, what do you think is leading to the success of the women's college tournament growing?

Oh, I think I hit it on the nose Earlier's just social media. I mean social media. Everybody has a spotlight on you. You know what I mean, if it's a big highlight, it's going up on the internet. People able to watch and see. And uh, I think last year when are resent them made that run and Kaitlyn Kart made a run, she made and uh, you know doing this right here. I think that similated a lot of controversy between both sides, and they was like it wasn't a problem when Kart did it, but then when Aurie did in a championship game, it's her problem. Like she showed both but for both of them to say it's nothing but competitives, you know what I mean, Like there's nothing against each other, And I think that's what you built up, you know what I mean, just having two great stars compete at a high level and not judging them by what color they are, you know what I mean, Like they both for talent, they both for great what they are and put that on the pedals through. I think that helped them get to a level they didn't think they was gonna get to. And I think they had like the biggest rated of all time. I think c double a history if I'm not mistaken, I don't want to when I was Rerumber, I think like it was the most watched game ever, like for a championship game, and you wouldn't expect that from a women's game. You expect it from a men's game. And that just let you know how much our game is evolving. For the women, and I love every bit of it because I think they deserved that a ten that deserved that spotlight because it's been so many greats before them, and those greats paved the way for them, and now the younger generation is being able to put it on the pedal, stal on the platform.

Oh, I think I hit it on the nose Earlier's just social media. I mean social media. Everybody has a spotlight on you. You know what I mean, if it's a big highlight, it's going up on the internet. People able to watch and see. And uh, I think last year when are resent them made that run and Kaitlyn Kart made a run, she made and uh, you know doing this right here. I think that similated a lot of controversy between both sides, and they was like it wasn't a problem when Kart did it, but then when Aurie did in a championship game, it's her problem. Like she showed both but for both of them to say it's nothing but competitives, you know what I mean, Like there's nothing against each other, And I think that's what you built up, you know what I mean, just having two great stars compete at a high level and not judging them by what color they are, you know what I mean, Like they both for talent, they both for great what they are and put that on the pedals through. I think that helped them get to a level they didn't think they was gonna get to. And I think they had like the biggest rated of all time. I think c double a history if I'm not mistaken, I don't want to when I was Rerumber, I think like it was the most watched game ever, like for a championship game, and you wouldn't expect that from a women's game. You expect it from a men's game. And that just let you know how much our game is evolving. For the women, and I love every bit of it because I think they deserved that a ten that deserved that spotlight because it's been so many greats before them, and those greats paved the way for them, and now the younger generation is being able to put it on the pedal, stal on the platform.

We're gonna take a break here on Point Game. When we come back, we're gonna get John's former coach, basketball legend Kentucky head coach John cali Perry joining us here on Point Game.

We're gonna take a break here on Point Game. When we come back, we're gonna get John's former coach, basketball legend Kentucky head coach John cali Perry joining us here on Point Game.

Will be right back.

Will be right back.

We are back on Point Game with John Wall and CJ Toldono, presented by DraftKings. We are so excited right now we're joined by legendary Kentucky head coach, basketball Hall of Famer, one of the most influential coaches in the game. Everyone, please welcome coach John cali Perry. John, how you doing man.

We are back on Point Game with John Wall and CJ Toldono, presented by DraftKings. We are so excited right now we're joined by legendary Kentucky head coach, basketball Hall of Famer, one of the most influential coaches in the game. Everyone, please welcome coach John cali Perry. John, how you doing man.

I'm doing good. I get to speak with John Wall. Jay Wall, Yay.

I'm doing good. I get to speak with John Wall. Jay Wall, Yay.

I'm so excited because we had Boogie on last week and it was different. I see Boogie on podcast and he comes on here with John and he's a different guy his real self. So I'm excited to see you coaching and your interactions here with your former player John Wall. So I guess I wanted to start things off by saying, what was your reaction when you first saw John play? Was after video? Was it in person? What was your reaction when you met John?

I'm so excited because we had Boogie on last week and it was different. I see Boogie on podcast and he comes on here with John and he's a different guy his real self. So I'm excited to see you coaching and your interactions here with your former player John Wall. So I guess I wanted to start things off by saying, what was your reaction when you first saw John play? Was after video? Was it in person? What was your reaction when you met John?

Well, the first thing was, oh my gosh, is he fast?

Well, the first thing was, oh my gosh, is he fast?

And you also looked at him. He had a toughness to him. He had a chip on his shoulder. I didn't know why, but you could tell he had a chip on his shoulder.

And you also looked at him. He had a toughness to him. He had a chip on his shoulder. I didn't know why, but you could tell he had a chip on his shoulder.

But the best moment was when I had his mom.

But the best moment was when I had his mom.

That was the best moment because when she and I got together, there was no chance he was going anywhere else.

That was the best moment because when she and I got together, there was no chance he was going anywhere else.

Just a good lady, that really smart.

Just a good lady, that really smart.

I asked John when he came with me, I said, you don't leave here by you. You live here, You take people with you. I was basically saying, be great teammates. He took five him and four others. My whole team he took. I didn't want to take my team, but that's never happened in the history of the NBA. Five first round draft picks, and he led. He came to my office one time, coach, we gotta have Eric, he remembers. He laughs, and I go, why we have to. He doesn't think he's a first round draft pick. I go, what, Well, then we got to convince him and by the end of the year he had what a seventeen year NBA career he was and the greatest kid.

I asked John when he came with me, I said, you don't leave here by you. You live here, You take people with you. I was basically saying, be great teammates. He took five him and four others. My whole team he took. I didn't want to take my team, but that's never happened in the history of the NBA. Five first round draft picks, and he led. He came to my office one time, coach, we gotta have Eric, he remembers. He laughs, and I go, why we have to. He doesn't think he's a first round draft pick. I go, what, Well, then we got to convince him and by the end of the year he had what a seventeen year NBA career he was and the greatest kid.

So I've given you another story.

So I've given you another story.

So I said that Eric LEDs how fast is John Wall? He said, oh my gosh, And I said, he's faster than you.

So I said that Eric LEDs how fast is John Wall? He said, oh my gosh, And I said, he's faster than you.

Oh no, he's not faster than me, but he's fast.

Oh no, he's not faster than me, but he's fast.

Hey, coach Booge and I chopped it up last week. We had so many memories. Honestly, we want to thank you for those. You brought us together. None of this would have happened to realize how much we needed each other. I just want to know, like when you're recruiting a player, like what are y'all looking for you in your staff? Like what you're looking for when you recruiting a player, Like look at a guy like Boogie Flaying y'all y'all just recruited and signed.

Hey, coach Booge and I chopped it up last week. We had so many memories. Honestly, we want to thank you for those. You brought us together. None of this would have happened to realize how much we needed each other. I just want to know, like when you're recruiting a player, like what are y'all looking for you in your staff? Like what you're looking for when you recruiting a player, Like look at a guy like Boogie Flaying y'all y'all just recruited and signed.

First of all, I gotta make sure they can be great teammates, because you know what we're doing here.

First of all, I gotta make sure they can be great teammates, because you know what we're doing here.

John. It wasn't just you.

John. It wasn't just you.

I was trying to coach everybody and give everybody a chance to go do stuff. Now, the better players, they're still gonna be the better players. They're going to be the number one pick, the number two, the number six. That's how it is. But you got to be great teammates. Really, you got to be a five star player who has some stuff with you.

I was trying to coach everybody and give everybody a chance to go do stuff. Now, the better players, they're still gonna be the better players. They're going to be the number one pick, the number two, the number six. That's how it is. But you got to be great teammates. Really, you got to be a five star player who has some stuff with you.

Let me explain what.

Let me explain what.

When you're a three star player, No disrespect, I think it's great when those kids bust through, but they're used to chasing their three star They're trying to chase the five. The minute you step on this campus, John Wall, you're being chased. Would you say everybody's super Bowl being chased?

When you're a three star player, No disrespect, I think it's great when those kids bust through, but they're used to chasing their three star They're trying to chase the five. The minute you step on this campus, John Wall, you're being chased. Would you say everybody's super Bowl being chased?

Am I right? John?

Am I right? John?

We everybody's super Bowl. You told us that when we stepped on campus. It's like your radars on your back, Like, don't care if you're a number one player, number two player, if you're a five star like we did, team that everybody want to be. So we go play somebody. They make every shot like bank shots, hook shots. I'm like, bro, why they not missing it?

We everybody's super Bowl. You told us that when we stepped on campus. It's like your radars on your back, Like, don't care if you're a number one player, number two player, if you're a five star like we did, team that everybody want to be. So we go play somebody. They make every shot like bank shots, hook shots. I'm like, bro, why they not missing it?

Gains?

Gains?

Hey how about this though, John, Every player tried to make their name at your expense. And if you haven't been that guy your whole life, it's hard to be that guy than a three star, maybe a four star, and all of a sudden it the roles flipped.

Hey how about this though, John, Every player tried to make their name at your expense. And if you haven't been that guy your whole life, it's hard to be that guy than a three star, maybe a four star, and all of a sudden it the roles flipped.

And that's why I say, yeah, we got to get talented guys, but.

And that's why I say, yeah, we got to get talented guys, but.

That everything we're trying to do, the process means really good players come together, learn to be great teammates, and then challenge each other and they grow, and then every game you play is a war.

That everything we're trying to do, the process means really good players come together, learn to be great teammates, and then challenge each other and they grow, and then every game you play is a war.

You figure out who can play in wars than who.

You figure out who can play in wars than who.

Can't, but coach that It's insane that you hit on one of the most historic like players in Kentucky history your first year. And I had heard some stories doing my research that you know, John was interested in John was interested in playing with you when you're at Memphis because he was watching d Rose so and then you went to Kentucky and you had to.

Can't, but coach that It's insane that you hit on one of the most historic like players in Kentucky history your first year. And I had heard some stories doing my research that you know, John was interested in John was interested in playing with you when you're at Memphis because he was watching d Rose so and then you went to Kentucky and you had to.

Make that call.

Make that call.

Like I've heard the general story, but I would love to hear the specific. It's like, you decide you're going to Kentucky and you're like, man, I had my guy commit to Memphis. So what did you call John? Like how did that go down?

Like I've heard the general story, but I would love to hear the specific. It's like, you decide you're going to Kentucky and you're like, man, I had my guy commit to Memphis. So what did you call John? Like how did that go down?

You know, I don't remember, but John will tell you he was never promised starting minute shots that I'm going to be here for you and I'm going to challenge you.

You know, I don't remember, but John will tell you he was never promised starting minute shots that I'm going to be here for you and I'm going to challenge you.

I've got you back, but you're gonna have to earn everything.

I've got you back, but you're gonna have to earn everything.

And and you know it was different, and then the Eric bledsoe, it's a great story. I go down to recruit Eric, and now John had committed already, and his high school coach says, well, John Wall and Eric, why would you recruit Eric if.

And and you know it was different, and then the Eric bledsoe, it's a great story. I go down to recruit Eric, and now John had committed already, and his high school coach says, well, John Wall and Eric, why would you recruit Eric if.

You have John Wall? And I said, and how would you deal with this?

You have John Wall? And I said, and how would you deal with this?

And I go, coach, if your s two players are the same position, what would you do?

And I go, coach, if your s two players are the same position, what would you do?

Said? I play the booth. I said, well that's what I'm gonna do. I'm play both.

Said? I play the booth. I said, well that's what I'm gonna do. I'm play both.

And Eric whispered in my ear as I walked out of the school and said, coach, I want to play for you. And the two players that were like that were Jamah and Eric Blazae and they basically were the same scoring point guards, and they got along and they covered for each other. I got a team this year that's really similar in that they celebrate each other. And we all look the Marcus. You know, I love the Marcus, but he was a handful. He was an handful and you know his his mother moved here back when the families.

And Eric whispered in my ear as I walked out of the school and said, coach, I want to play for you. And the two players that were like that were Jamah and Eric Blazae and they basically were the same scoring point guards, and they got along and they covered for each other. I got a team this year that's really similar in that they celebrate each other. And we all look the Marcus. You know, I love the Marcus, but he was a handful. He was an handful and you know his his mother moved here back when the families.

Weren't moving to the schools. She was a nurse. She brought grandma to his two siblings by the month.

Weren't moving to the schools. She was a nurse. She brought grandma to his two siblings by the month.

Here she pulls up the van and I'm where you're going, Ms Cush, I'm going back to Alabama? And I go why because my son trusts you and you're not afraid of him, and he's gonna be fine.

Here she pulls up the van and I'm where you're going, Ms Cush, I'm going back to Alabama? And I go why because my son trusts you and you're not afraid of him, and he's gonna be fine.

And she left and he was fine. Now he wanted to.

And she left and he was fine. Now he wanted to.

Shoot every ball and everything. I should have had everything and all this. But at the end of the day, I loved him then and I love him now. I still think he has some time left in his body. But John, how great was he here?

Shoot every ball and everything. I should have had everything and all this. But at the end of the day, I loved him then and I love him now. I still think he has some time left in his body. But John, how great was he here?

He was special. He was my roommate, so you know I knew him. I knew him very well.

He was special. He was my roommate, so you know I knew him. I knew him very well.

We had the funny story, he said, stopped telling the story when his feet caught on fire when he was running suicide that day. But it was great, man, like I said, like the whole time there was just so special. Like you made it easy for everybody because, like I said, we always five stars. We could have went to any school and just tried to be the man byselves. But for you to be able to get five five stars a returning player in Patrick Patterson and come there and all come to be like locking million, learn how to play with each other.

We had the funny story, he said, stopped telling the story when his feet caught on fire when he was running suicide that day. But it was great, man, like I said, like the whole time there was just so special. Like you made it easy for everybody because, like I said, we always five stars. We could have went to any school and just tried to be the man byselves. But for you to be able to get five five stars a returning player in Patrick Patterson and come there and all come to be like locking million, learn how to play with each other.

It was special. So my question I want to ask you was what makes what makes Big Blue Nations so special to you?

It was special. So my question I want to ask you was what makes what makes Big Blue Nations so special to you?

Well, it's a blessing and it's also a curse because the blessing is our fans are engaged. They support, but if you struggle, they're still engaged. So you lose a couple, they're still engaged. You didn't live through social media like these guys have to live. Can you imagine what they did when John was here the game ended. We had to have police horses beside the lodge so that they could go in without getting accosted. Now it's more social media driven and all that kind of stuff. You got media trying to get clicks, so they'll say anything, even not true.

Well, it's a blessing and it's also a curse because the blessing is our fans are engaged. They support, but if you struggle, they're still engaged. So you lose a couple, they're still engaged. You didn't live through social media like these guys have to live. Can you imagine what they did when John was here the game ended. We had to have police horses beside the lodge so that they could go in without getting accosted. Now it's more social media driven and all that kind of stuff. You got media trying to get clicks, so they'll say anything, even not true.

He's not coming back, he's not here. It would have been crazy with you, you know that. Else would have been crazy and I l oh and I l would have made it crazy.

He's not coming back, he's not here. It would have been crazy with you, you know that. Else would have been crazy and I l oh and I l would have made it crazy.

Because do you think you would have had these guys longer if you had nil back?

Because do you think you would have had these guys longer if you had nil back?

Then I would have told John Wall you're nuts, you're the number one pick, you go, You're not coming back. I would have tore up a scholarship. But there were other guys that I would have said, you're making a lot of money. Near what you're going to say. But if they chose to lose, John, Okay, I would have helped them and done whatever. But you know back then, Yeah, let me say the greatest thing in all this, every one of these kids, the first thing they did is they took care of them. Every one of them took care of them. Mom, That's the first thing they did. So you know it would have been different. They would have all how about this, John, None of you had a car. None of you had got cars. They got a parking lot of cars.

Then I would have told John Wall you're nuts, you're the number one pick, you go, You're not coming back. I would have tore up a scholarship. But there were other guys that I would have said, you're making a lot of money. Near what you're going to say. But if they chose to lose, John, Okay, I would have helped them and done whatever. But you know back then, Yeah, let me say the greatest thing in all this, every one of these kids, the first thing they did is they took care of them. Every one of them took care of them. Mom, That's the first thing they did. So you know it would have been different. They would have all how about this, John, None of you had a car. None of you had got cars. They got a parking lot of cars.

Are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me?

They lit, man, They lit. Now that's one question I wanted to ask you to a coach.

They lit, man, They lit. Now that's one question I wanted to ask you to a coach.

I was going to ask you, has it ever been a player that you wanted to stay one more year that you possibly would have won a championship with but you let him go? And at the same time, have you ever had a player that wanted to take the next step but you knew it's probably better for him to come back for another year, but you let him do it, make his own choice.

I was going to ask you, has it ever been a player that you wanted to stay one more year that you possibly would have won a championship with but you let him go? And at the same time, have you ever had a player that wanted to take the next step but you knew it's probably better for him to come back for another year, but you let him do it, make his own choice.

Well, I tell you one guy that I think would have changed a team. One guy that I wanted to go and I wasn't sure. Yeah, Daniel needed to stay, and I think if he stayed, it would have helped him in his career and it would have helped them team. You know, I've had other guys that I talked to parents and I don't want to mention names, but I talked to parents and I said, are you sure? And the thing came back with, well, they're all leaving, and he feels he has to now that young man didn't have the career that you guys had, like he needed another year. I got a couple of guys on this year's team that probably could use another year. But you know, I'm going to support whatever their decision is. But I'll tell them are you sure, because there's two things you have to be NBA no boys allowed, NBA no boys allowed. Are you mentally ready? And are you physically ready? You think of all you guys, Jay Walk, you were all physically and mentally ready to go. That's why you all did well. But if you're not mentally ready, what will happen in that league? If you're not physically ready.

Well, I tell you one guy that I think would have changed a team. One guy that I wanted to go and I wasn't sure. Yeah, Daniel needed to stay, and I think if he stayed, it would have helped him in his career and it would have helped them team. You know, I've had other guys that I talked to parents and I don't want to mention names, but I talked to parents and I said, are you sure? And the thing came back with, well, they're all leaving, and he feels he has to now that young man didn't have the career that you guys had, like he needed another year. I got a couple of guys on this year's team that probably could use another year. But you know, I'm going to support whatever their decision is. But I'll tell them are you sure, because there's two things you have to be NBA no boys allowed, NBA no boys allowed. Are you mentally ready? And are you physically ready? You think of all you guys, Jay Walk, you were all physically and mentally ready to go. That's why you all did well. But if you're not mentally ready, what will happen in that league? If you're not physically ready.

It's like a bully taking something front of your hospital. Is over, and then what.

It's like a bully taking something front of your hospital. Is over, and then what.

Would the other coach do every you're out there physically you can't handle it attacking you every time you are you saying every time or ready other time, every play, every place, they'll put you in a switch, they'll scream, they'll do something to where you're the guy. So if you're not mentally or physically ready, you shouldn't leave. And now then I help. It's all ego. Sometimes we family ego. Some of them, well man, because he played more.

Would the other coach do every you're out there physically you can't handle it attacking you every time you are you saying every time or ready other time, every play, every place, they'll put you in a switch, they'll scream, they'll do something to where you're the guy. So if you're not mentally or physically ready, you shouldn't leave. And now then I help. It's all ego. Sometimes we family ego. Some of them, well man, because he played more.

He should have played more. He was better than your son. But your son is fine. Maybe take a little more time. And so that's the thing I worry about that some kids may leave when now there's no reason to no reason too if you want to stay, and you need to say. Look, Willie Carley Stein came to me.

He should have played more. He was better than your son. But your son is fine. Maybe take a little more time. And so that's the thing I worry about that some kids may leave when now there's no reason to no reason too if you want to stay, and you need to say. Look, Willie Carley Stein came to me.

Kind of like Patrick did and said I want to stay another year. And you know me like, why would you want to stay another year? And Willie Coley said, I'm not mentally ready to do this yet. And the second thing, I couldn't believe he said it, and I think he might have been lying, but he said, and I'm enjoying school right now, and coach, you know.

Kind of like Patrick did and said I want to stay another year. And you know me like, why would you want to stay another year? And Willie Coley said, I'm not mentally ready to do this yet. And the second thing, I couldn't believe he said it, and I think he might have been lying, but he said, and I'm enjoying school right now, and coach, you know.

I need boss.

I need boss.

So I said, Okay, Patrick's thing was I haven't shot a three point shot. I've not played in an NCAA tournament game, and I'm gonna graduate in three years.

So I said, Okay, Patrick's thing was I haven't shot a three point shot. I've not played in an NCAA tournament game, and I'm gonna graduate in three years.

All right, those are I'm glad.

All right, those are I'm glad.

I'm glad you let him come back. We needed to.

I'm glad you let him come back. We needed to.

I know.

I know.

I wish Jody would have came back too, though that would have been specially.

I wish Jody would have came back too, though that would have been specially.

We wouldn't have lost that game where we went one for twenty two because I don't let him shoot it stepping over half court.

We wouldn't have lost that game where we went one for twenty two because I don't let him shoot it stepping over half court.

Coach you, I mean, the numbers don't lie. With this last All Star game. I think the number is you coach thirty percent of them. And then we also had Daron Fox snubbed, we had Jamal Murray snubbed, Tyler Hero. So what are you doing different You.

Coach you, I mean, the numbers don't lie. With this last All Star game. I think the number is you coach thirty percent of them. And then we also had Daron Fox snubbed, we had Jamal Murray snubbed, Tyler Hero. So what are you doing different You.

Had John Wall, you had DeMarcus Cousin, right, but like this year's also guys that were in that game.

Had John Wall, you had DeMarcus Cousin, right, but like this year's also guys that were in that game.

What do you so?

What do you so?

What are you doing differently that leads as a as a college head coach, that leads to the success of these NBA players.

What are you doing differently that leads as a as a college head coach, that leads to the success of these NBA players.

I would hope they would say their first year in the NBA was with us, with the terminology how they're trained. And I bet to John Wall didn't get coached one more play the way I coached them, And I'm not saying I'm good. I'm saying I'm hard. They go to the NBA. It is an exchange. We're paying you to do this. If you don't do it, we'll go get somebody else. My thing was, no, I'm voting you to a high standard, John Wall. If you're my best player, I'm harder on you than everybody else. You want to tell him the story. You came in and told me you loved me. In the locker room, I was breaking it down to him. I told him, I said, I came tomorrow like, man, coach, I love you, said, man, what happened?

I would hope they would say their first year in the NBA was with us, with the terminology how they're trained. And I bet to John Wall didn't get coached one more play the way I coached them, And I'm not saying I'm good. I'm saying I'm hard. They go to the NBA. It is an exchange. We're paying you to do this. If you don't do it, we'll go get somebody else. My thing was, no, I'm voting you to a high standard, John Wall. If you're my best player, I'm harder on you than everybody else. You want to tell him the story. You came in and told me you loved me. In the locker room, I was breaking it down to him. I told him, I said, I came tomorrow like, man, coach, I love you, said, man, what happened?

What's going on? I was like, man, I ain't having fun and you can tell and then you can tell them. So so he comes in.

What's going on? I was like, man, I ain't having fun and you can tell and then you can tell them. So so he comes in.

I'm sitting in after a game. He said, coach, you know I love you. What you do? What you're saying, he said, I said, I'm not having fun. You know what, You're not having fun because they're guarding you under the basket and you're missing shots. That ain't fun.

I'm sitting in after a game. He said, coach, you know I love you. What you do? What you're saying, he said, I said, I'm not having fun. You know what, You're not having fun because they're guarding you under the basket and you're missing shots. That ain't fun.

Yeah, So you got to get in it.

Yeah, So you got to get in it.

And then he makes his game winner against Miami. We're getting deep by eighteen. My first game in Kentucky, they're saying, Cow's a bust.

And then he makes his game winner against Miami. We're getting deep by eighteen. My first game in Kentucky, they're saying, Cow's a bust.

You can't coach. This is crazy. John Wall runs down the floor and makes a buzzer beater.

You can't coach. This is crazy. John Wall runs down the floor and makes a buzzer beater.

You remember that, John, And my first game win I ever made. Remember you said you never see me do that. You see you do everything else. I haven't seen myself do that. I never had to be in that position, But that's what But that's what I was saying, Like it's like it's just different, like when you get there. It's like I felt like I had to be a pro, you know what I mean, Like high school, you work out, you do those type of things.

You remember that, John, And my first game win I ever made. Remember you said you never see me do that. You see you do everything else. I haven't seen myself do that. I never had to be in that position, But that's what But that's what I was saying, Like it's like it's just different, like when you get there. It's like I felt like I had to be a pro, you know what I mean, Like high school, you work out, you do those type of things.

But we held to a standard.

But we held to a standard.

I remember just in the summer time, we had to be on the line at six am for twenty suicides in twenty minutes. Remember that, I told her. I went back to my dorm. I said, ma, I think I picked the wrong school.

I remember just in the summer time, we had to be on the line at six am for twenty suicides in twenty minutes. Remember that, I told her. I went back to my dorm. I said, ma, I think I picked the wrong school.

I ain't never did no.

I ain't never did no.

Conditioning like this ever, but it prepared us to another level to make us feel like we was in college students.

Conditioning like this ever, but it prepared us to another level to make us feel like we was in college students.

Like we felt like we was pros, Like we had to be pros every day.

Like we felt like we was pros, Like we had to be pros every day.

And that's why I feel like you have so many great guys that have life familiar, so many guys that is selling so well in the league. My question I want to ask you is this, because I know everybody used to hate you about this. You started this one and done thing, and we talked about this before. Now everybody wants to do the one it done? Like, how do you keep your confidence so strong that you knew you was doing what's right for the kids and what's best for you and now everybody want to follow your train?

And that's why I feel like you have so many great guys that have life familiar, so many guys that is selling so well in the league. My question I want to ask you is this, because I know everybody used to hate you about this. You started this one and done thing, and we talked about this before. Now everybody wants to do the one it done? Like, how do you keep your confidence so strong that you knew you was doing what's right for the kids and what's best for you and now everybody want to follow your train?

Now?

Now?

Well, what.

Well, what.

What I knew? Start with Dewaan Wagner.

What I knew? Start with Dewaan Wagner.

I knew that the way I played him, he would be in the best draft position and coming back would not help him.

I knew that the way I played him, he would be in the best draft position and coming back would not help him.

It would have helped me, but not him.

It would have helped me, but not him.

And what we found out when we started doing it, Tyreek Evans came in, should I go or stay? And I said to him what I said to DeMarcus, if you want to do what's right for me and my family, you should stay. If you want to do what's right for you and your family, you should leave. And it never hurt us. You guys all left and we went to the final four. That group all left, and you know we went to won the national title. If one kid would have came back from that room the national title. We'd have been a sweet sixteen, Elite eight, and then we won thirty eight straight before we lost the I mean, it never hurt us as long as we were getting five star players that understand you're gonna be chased.

And what we found out when we started doing it, Tyreek Evans came in, should I go or stay? And I said to him what I said to DeMarcus, if you want to do what's right for me and my family, you should stay. If you want to do what's right for you and your family, you should leave. And it never hurt us. You guys all left and we went to the final four. That group all left, and you know we went to won the national title. If one kid would have came back from that room the national title. We'd have been a sweet sixteen, Elite eight, and then we won thirty eight straight before we lost the I mean, it never hurt us as long as we were getting five star players that understand you're gonna be chased.

You're not chasing anymore. You're gonna be chased. And you know what I.

You're not chasing anymore. You're gonna be chased. And you know what I.

Just said, Look, I'm doing it. I knew I took heat. I took he here at Kentucky.

Just said, Look, I'm doing it. I knew I took heat. I took he here at Kentucky.

We can't do it this way.

We can't do it this way.

You care too much about the kids, and I get it, but after they saw it for five or six years, it's like kind of exciting, and these kids are all doing well. I just didn't want to do anything at the expense of the kids. And I'm trying to do the same. You know, one year I had to play two groups that I want to do it now. But that's the only way I could take care of ten kids. That meant they were all really good. By the way, we have Alex Portras got a belch palsy, So all the people listening he's over in Europe.

You care too much about the kids, and I get it, but after they saw it for five or six years, it's like kind of exciting, and these kids are all doing well. I just didn't want to do anything at the expense of the kids. And I'm trying to do the same. You know, one year I had to play two groups that I want to do it now. But that's the only way I could take care of ten kids. That meant they were all really good. By the way, we have Alex Portras got a belch palsy, So all the people listening he's over in Europe.

He's gonna have to take some time. But pray for him if you get a chance.

He's gonna have to take some time. But pray for him if you get a chance.

Coach, I don't want to relive bad memories here, but I wanted to ask you if you remember in twenty ten tournament times coming up, So if you remember that who you fell to, the specific player. I know we all know the team, but the specific player that you fell to in twenty ten, and how much that that loss sort of bothers you still?

Coach, I don't want to relive bad memories here, but I wanted to ask you if you remember in twenty ten tournament times coming up, So if you remember that who you fell to, the specific player. I know we all know the team, but the specific player that you fell to in twenty ten, and how much that that loss sort of bothers you still?

Well, First of all, I always knew.

Well, First of all, I always knew.

We could dominate you physically athletically, but we weren't an execution team. We just bowled you over and went matter of fact, I called John coach, woulden't And I said, you watched us? He said, yeah, coach, And I said we're not a great execution team.

We could dominate you physically athletically, but we weren't an execution team. We just bowled you over and went matter of fact, I called John coach, woulden't And I said, you watched us? He said, yeah, coach, And I said we're not a great execution team.

What do you think?

What do you think?

You know what he told me, John, You play too people. You have to play six guys and all that. Well, I couldn't do that with this team. And he also said, but I understand why you're doing it, because kids will transfer and all that.

You know what he told me, John, You play too people. You have to play six guys and all that. Well, I couldn't do that with this team. And he also said, but I understand why you're doing it, because kids will transfer and all that.

He said. When I was doing this, I played six or seven seventh man played a little bit.

He said. When I was doing this, I played six or seven seventh man played a little bit.

If you wanted to earn it, you earned it in practice. But that game we played a really good team the game before and beat them really good. But we missed almost every three and then we come in the next game, they go one three one and we're like one for sixteen, what you're gonna lose on that?

If you wanted to earn it, you earned it in practice. But that game we played a really good team the game before and beat them really good. But we missed almost every three and then we come in the next game, they go one three one and we're like one for sixteen, what you're gonna lose on that?

And it was the one Achilles heel we had.

And it was the one Achilles heel we had.

There were times in the season where Whether and Eric got in foul trum that killed us. So he was in foul trouble which made the game close, and they played Westerrgin.

There were times in the season where Whether and Eric got in foul trum that killed us. So he was in foul trouble which made the game close, and they played Westerrgin.

You played the heck of a game. Heck of a game. I think if we got by that one, John been kind of.

You played the heck of a game. Heck of a game. I think if we got by that one, John been kind of.

Been kind of scary because I think we would have most teams wouldn't have tried to play one three one.

Been kind of scary because I think we would have most teams wouldn't have tried to play one three one.

Now, I think I think coach Huckins did a great job because he started off. He started off in man and probably after the first two three minutes he said no, I can't do this no more, and we just we just were like, oh for twenty to start off. Like I watched the game the other day, we started off like overtween, I'm like this one be his Like.

Now, I think I think coach Huckins did a great job because he started off. He started off in man and probably after the first two three minutes he said no, I can't do this no more, and we just we just were like, oh for twenty to start off. Like I watched the game the other day, we started off like overtween, I'm like this one be his Like.

It was stunning that we missed that many. But you know what, if it were best to seven, what John, we.

It was stunning that we missed that many. But you know what, if it were best to seven, what John, we.

Would definitely win that series. Indeed got it. It was Yeah, it was one game, one game.

Would definitely win that series. Indeed got it. It was Yeah, it was one game, one game.

Coach do you remember the player whose idea was to play that one three one.

Coach do you remember the player whose idea was to play that one three one.

Well, I wasn't in their huddles, so I don't know. It may have been the coach of the Celtics.

Well, I wasn't in their huddles, so I don't know. It may have been the coach of the Celtics.

Yep, that's all he's going for it.

Yep, that's all he's going for it.

Joe Missoula.

Joe Missoula.

Yeah, but let me say this, Joe Mazzuola was shooting about fifteen percent from the three.

Yeah, but let me say this, Joe Mazzuola was shooting about fifteen percent from the three.

Yeah, and we were saying, let him go, We're gonna help off him. What he do?

Yeah, and we were saying, let him go, We're gonna help off him. What he do?

John Man, he made like four or five and Man, David, they was like the first half they didn't make a two point basket.

John Man, he made like four or five and Man, David, they was like the first half they didn't make a two point basket.

I'm like, what in the world.

I'm like, what in the world.

These guys aren't supposed to make threes? But you know they were the players like everybody. We played them again and Brandon I beat them pretty good. We played them again with that thirty eight no team and beat them pretty good. But they beat us on that night.

These guys aren't supposed to make threes? But you know they were the players like everybody. We played them again and Brandon I beat them pretty good. We played them again with that thirty eight no team and beat them pretty good. But they beat us on that night.

Yep, they won the best night because I remember the next year y'all beat them and DeAndre Liggins was walking shaking hands.

Yep, they won the best night because I remember the next year y'all beat them and DeAndre Liggins was walking shaking hands.

He's like, do the John wall dance, Neill, do to John wad dance, Neil.

He's like, do the John wall dance, Neill, do to John wad dance, Neil.

I remember that, but I'm glad they got some get back, But that still is like the game that haunts because we had a special team and we wanted to go.

I remember that, but I'm glad they got some get back, But that still is like the game that haunts because we had a special team and we wanted to go.

But like you said, in that tournament, it takes one game. It's just one game and it's over with yes, and it's.

But like you said, in that tournament, it takes one game. It's just one game and it's over with yes, and it's.

You gotta We were prepared for the game, but it's just something happens, foul trouble and injury. You hit a bad spell, which is what happens in that tournament at times. And like I said, my teams have done well. We I've had one blip, but just about every coach that's coached in this even they've had one or two blips.

You gotta We were prepared for the game, but it's just something happens, foul trouble and injury. You hit a bad spell, which is what happens in that tournament at times. And like I said, my teams have done well. We I've had one blip, but just about every coach that's coached in this even they've had one or two blips.

You have.

You have.

Hey, I got this last question for you, coach. Your team has so many weapons this year, right, I know this is the hardest part is like you say, you got to go t D Like, how do you decide who to play, who to rotate at time? Because you know I'll be at the games. I come and see and I'll be like, well, I wonder what he gonna do here because I wouldn't know what to do with the town you have. I was telling the CJ, I feel like this might be your deepest team with bigs that could all be versatile, a lot of guards, and I think it's probably your best shooting team, I think, with how y'all can shoot the ball to hot clip.