Pod of RebellionWe start where it all began in 2014 when Star Wars Rebels entered the pop culture chat, sparking the beginning of The Ghost Crew being a mainstay in Star Wars fans' hearts.
Jon sets the stage of where Star Wars and the world were when she show debuted back in 2014 as Vanessa, Tiya and Taylor reminisce about their first day in the booth, the weight of expectations entering a universe as prolific as Star Wars and share many other behind the scenes stories. It's a trip down memory lane revisiting the series premiere and it's all tied together at the end with fact checks from our in house Star Wars guru, J.C!
This is where the fun begins....
Coming off of Clone Wars, which is such a beloved series, and I love Clone Wars and I love how there are ties into Clone Wars throughout Rebels. Did you feel pressure from that? And also was there any sort of, for lack of a better word, like orientation of somebody saying, hey, FYI, this might happen because I know that you're stepping into a world with so many fans, with so many opinions. On the one hand, it could be great when they love you, but if they don't, it cannot be great.
Dave told us something that when he said it, I didn't know what he meant. He was like, here's how Star Wars fans are.
Hi everyone, or as Obi-Wan would say hello there, Hello there. Don't we sound so polished and love rehearsed for our first episode to debut on iHeartRadio for our Star Wars Rebels rewatch podcast. How is everybody so good?
I'm so excited about this.
Yeah, I'm it's hard to believe it's been well now a little more than ten years, because we are in like twenty twenty five now, which is crazy. But I'm excited to get into this and I love you all as people and performers, and I think this is just going to be fun and we're for anyone listening. We're just we're kind of figuring it out as we go. But what we want to do is like when you see a comic com Panels or in hall h we want to just bring that to you each in every week. And that's going to be the general idea of this. So I guess should we officially like introduce the show like maybe, yeah, sure, absolutely, Well, I can't think of anyone better. I'm not that anyone's better. I'm not comparing to anybody, but I feel like the most appropriate, I think appropriate to throw to Vanessa first, because you are Captain Hera, the Captain of the Ghost, our fearless leader. So do you want to kick it off for our intro that we may or may not have rehearsed. I don't know.
Well, yes, absolutely. My name is Vanessa Marshall. I'm the voice of Hera Syndulla from Star Wars Rebels. This is our very special ten year reunion Rebels rewatch, and I am, of course Spectre two, and I will hand it off to the next spectre.
Hi.
Hi, everyone, This is Tiya Sircar Sabine Wren specter five. I'm very excited to be here with my friends and colleagues. And we've got one more spectre for you.
Taylor Gray, Ezra Bridger Specter six, and this is Oh Well.
I I am Jon Lee Brody nonspector. I did not voice anyone in Star Wars Rebels. I wanted to say yet, but the show is not on anymore. So that one. Thanks everybody you are listening to Pot of Rebellion. This is our Star Wars Rebels rewatch podcasts. I'm going to be serving as the moderator to try to push some of the discussions along, and we have three of the amazing cast members here to give some insider info that I'm going to try to pull out of you a little bit. That's what you're in for. And with this we're going to go over episode start. The course of this podcast, we're also going to bring on some friends, some guests. We're gonna have some bonus episodes down the line where we'll explore the whole zeitgeist of Star Wars, like video games and other TV shows, other movies, and how it influenced the entire pop culture world. But today we are going to be focused on Spark of Rebellion Part one. We are going by the Disney Plus sequencing because that's how we're rewatching it, and that's how you can rewatch it along with us. So when you hear let me say season one, episode one, even though technically that was Spark of Rebellion, the TV movie, we're just going by the sequencing once again on Disney Plus. So a few fun facts as we go into this. This first episode is going to be a little bit more expositional for you all, but I just want to set the stage of what we're getting into. This was a year before The Force Awakens release, so in twenty fourteen. Clone Wars and ended previously March seventh, twenty fourteen. We have a when you're gonna hear me talk about someone named JC and when I say that, that's our awesome producer, Jasee Reifenberg, who is also going to be our fact checker at the end of episodes. It's not jaz Chaise from in Sick at least not yet, at least not today, but maybe eventually. So Clone Wars will we've ended March seven, twenty fourteen. Disney had purchased Lucasfilm two years prior to that, and timeline wise, I believe fourteen years after the events of Clone Wars, four or five years before the battle, and it's definitely before Rogue one. And as far as a fish original air date, there's a few here that I see. September twenty sixth was for verified users on Disney XD dot com, which was not me. The rest of the world sat on October third, twenty fourteen on Disney XD, which was also Mean Girls Day, so Aaron Samuels was being asked what day it was from Katie Heron, while we were also introduced to Star Wars Rebels and fun fact, I believe Clone Wars also debuted on Mean Girls Day back in two thousand and eight. And before we get into the episode, I want also, because I know this is a long time ago for you all you recorded in twenty thirteen, right and then released in twenty fourteen, I want to take the three of you and our listeners back to what was going on in the year twenty fourteen, which is a lifetime ago.
Uh.
The average price of gas in California was two dollars and twenty eight cents, just not what it is now. Unfortunately, the President of the United States of America was Barack Obama the Ice Bucket Challenge for als, when people were putting buckets of ice and more than on themselves for als, awareness was like the thing on social media. Jimmy Fallon took over The Tonight Show and Taylor Swift this is pre Travis Kelcey dropped her nineteen eighty nine album and we were all shaking it off to tab So that was just taking it back to twenty fourteen. And we didn't even need Doc Browns Delrion to do it.
We've never even heard of COVID.
I know, which is dude, Which is going to be an interesting point we can bring up, I think throughout the course of this entire podcast is you were on the booth together, which doesn't happen as much anymore, right because remote became the norm out of necessity during COVID.
Well not just anymore. I mean, I think a lot of shows and animated films they don't have the luxury or they don't give their actors the luxury of recording together. We just we're super fortunate.
I know.
Clone Wars did the same thing. We got to record as a cast every single episode, which is why we like each other so much because we hung out every.
Week for years, and which is why the chemistry is so genuine and special when you listen, when you watch these episodes, there's something like organic there and you're not sure what it is, but I feel like there's a direct correlation between when the cast is in one verom recording for animation versus if it's been for lack of better term, like Frankenstein together and piece together when people do it separately. So that is really what makes one of the many reasons why Star Wars Rebels is special. So shall we get into this first episode and then to our discussions? Do it so U for our listeners and people who may consume a lot of podcasts like me, you'll notice a lot of rewatch podcasts, they like to just go beat by beat with the story and that becomes the focal discussion point. And I enjoy that for what it is. But we are the pot of rebellion, so we're going to rebel against that a little bit. So what we're going to do is I'm just going to do a bit of a one to two minute recap of the general idea of the episode, and then from there We're going to just get an open discussion and then whatever happens happens. If you all would be so kind to listen to my recap, and then if you hate the recap, then we can always scrap it. But this is just the general idea. We'll see what happened to them.
I have at j are good.
I'm glad you're not doing the hantle. I have a bad feeling about it.
I didn't want to speak up, but.
Let's stay on Brandon. At least it's so body is saying that we got a bad mealing box. Okay, So here comes to recap for season one, episode one, Spark Rebellion, Part one. The episode begins with an ominous image of multiple star destroyers, and we are then face to face with Darth Vader, aka the most powerful villain to ever have asthma and whose voice sounds a lot like Eddie Murphy's dad, and coming to America. He is warning an inquisitor of a possible Jedi youth uprising known as the Children of the Force. We then moved to the planet with Thal, where the Galactic Empire's reign appears to be in full force. We get a glimpse of how day to day life is for citizens of the Fall, and among those citizens is young Ezra Bridger, who has one of the best heads of hair in Star Wars history. After Ezra shows a neck for helping fellow citizens while also helping himself and a pastor for Yogan Fru, we also meet another mysterious group of rebels who have no problem being destructors to the Empire, and Ezra has no problem being a destructor to this group of rebels. After a speeder by showdown that would make Luke Skywalker on the Forest mood of end or proud, Ezra ends up on a VCX one hundred light freighter with these band of rebels, stolen cargo and all after Ezra, whit is his crew in action fighting off Imperial tie fighters, swoops around the ship and finds mysterious artifacts, including a holocron and lightsaber, and having a couple of fleeting conversation with crew members, it becomes clear to Ezra that this group he has come to contact with are a group of do gooders and are like the Transformers, and that there's more than MEETSTI. Though his curiosity intrigue are peaked, he still wishes to return home to Lathal, But before that can happen, this group of do good rebels must first embark on a mission to free Wookies from an Imperial star destroyer. Ezra hangs back with Hara, the ship's fearless leader and captain, while the others infiltrate the star destroyer. Ezra and US viewers then get to get the privilege of witnessing Harrah's boss Lady's stads when she puts an Imperial officer in his place over the commps in a way that would make Jessica Pearson on Suits both envius and proud, and thus that sets the stage for the others to start the rescue mission. However, it soon becomes evident that this whole mission was actually a setup. Harah urges Ezra to go and board the others, which is a foreign concept to this loner who's used to looking out for himself. Ezra is now faced with a Jean brey and like paradox where he has two choices in front of him and he's not sure which direction to go. The episode then leaves us hanging like Sylvester Stillone in nineteen ninety three in the movie cliffhanger. What's the bernny question? Will Ezer Bridger make like the title of a Spike Lee movie and do the right thing?
I was wrong? That was incredible, Taylor, Wow, that was amazing.
I mean closing, Uh, the best villain with asthma never incredible?
Question?
Is cliffhanger from this the Vester Stalone movie? Is that where we get a cliffhanger? Yeah?
I mean from ninety three you know, no way, no, from ninety three.
We've had cliff You mean like the it's the.
Term oh no no oh, I'm saying I got it from the no no no.
You saying like, is that word originated into the zeitgeist?
J c Uh. Maybe he can tell us at the end of the episode.
A cliffhanger, But I'm saying, like, did it be calm? You know what I mean?
Did it become relevant where every TV show and film says clothing?
Oh, I'm going to say, listen. I know JC and I know Jason allow us with some facts at the end, But I mean think about like Hitchcock films and like, that's what I'm saying.
If that's a antacritistic but I don't know.
Yeah, well, well I guess we'll find out at the end of this episode. Stay tuned, y'all.
That's incentive for people to tune in.
An education. It's an education.
Our edutainment, I believe, is what it's referred to now because we're educating and being entertaining.
Yeah, I love that.
So thoughts everybody, because I know it's been a minute this So this wasn't the first thing you recorded, though. There was these four shorts that were released, and that, technically, right, was the first thing you recorded, as your character is correct.
That's correct.
Yeah, the shorts. I think my first session that I remember, I for some reason did not receive any lines via email, so I had no idea what we were doing. And I was also told to prepare whatever that was with a French slash ryloth accent, just in case. And when I got there, I met Tia, I met Freddie. Steve Bloom was in the UK doing a convention and he joined us from some kind humanitarians closet somewhere in the middle of nowhere, and that's when he discovered that it was Star Wars, but.
Taylor hadn't been cast yet.
Yeah, and we didn't have an Ezra at that point. But I just remember being so thrilled to be present. I'm a huge Clone Wars fan, and I felt the responsibility and the honor of having this first foray into Disney owned property. You know, people were drawing pictures of Donald Duck with lightsabers and stuff, sort of curious to see how this would all come together. But I knew, I felt from the moment I walked in that there was a rever for the IP and a passion for it that especially, you know, with Filoni at the helm and all the great minds everyone that we met. The first day, there was a huge book with all the sets, like this is your ship, this is your bed. I mean, it was really enriching. It was soul food. I don't know what your experience was.
TA Well, I'm only going to share the story because Freddy is not here and I he all can never repeat this to him. I've actually never told him, of course I haven't. But so I had absolutely no idea what I was doing, what I was in for this was I had. I had done an animated film once before I did. I did an made a film called Walking with Dinosaurs. If you love dinosaurs, check it out, and then I did like an episode of Phineas and Burg that was the very first voiced over gig I ever had. So I had no I had such a so little experience in uh, you know, voice acting, the voice acting realm that I showed up to our first session, I didn't know anything. I didn't know who I was going to meet. And I remember walking in the door. We recorded at the same place for you know, all four seasons, which was great. It fell like second home. And I walked in the door door and one of our producers was there to greet me, and she said, hi to you. We're so happy you're here. This is Vanessa Marshall. And I shook Vanessa's hand and said Hi, nice to meet you. And then I was like, oh my god, what is Berdie Prince Junior doing here? Like my fourteen year old self was like fully freaking out, like why why, why, why? Why is Freddie Prince Junior here? What's he doing? So yeah, I totally had like a moment of like panic, like my you know, I know what you did last summer. All my Teamy Bomber self was fully trying to keep it cool. Then you know, soon after, quickly after I realized that Partie's like my big brother, and that that feeling passed quite quickly. Initially, I was like totally starstruck and freaked out. But yeah, my experience is probably a little different than Vanessa's because Vanessa is like that was I mean, not that you'd done Star Wars before, but you you know, Vanessa is a prolific, incredible voice actor and has done this, could do this in her sleep. And so my experience was very much like having absolutely no idea what I was doing there and hoping no one would realize that they've made a grave mistake, recaps me or something. I know you don you want to talk about these interstitials later, so I'll save the rest for another conversation. But that was my initial I was just trying to like hope no one noticed that I probably shouldn't be there.
I was only going to add and then you showed Freddy that you were all that. But you know, right, all.
Right, my teeny bomber self appreciates that reference. Thank you.
No, I mean, I grew up on those nineties wrong comes to believe me, like and when Freddy and I first, and for people who know like Freddie's like a friend of all. He's pretty much the big brother too, like everyone to y. Yeah, very much so. And we also have another podcast together that was pretty scary that we do together. But it's when we first met. It's like, you couldn't help but think about that. And that's kind of the magic of our industry. You don't ever think that you're going to be face to face the people you grew up with. If you don't watchkeep and go, I'm going to be friends with this person, It just you know, when it happens, he's like, oh wow, and then you realize that they're also they're real people. Yeah.
And the good thing about it's Freddy And anyone who knows Freddy would I think attest to this. It's like he has no heirst about him. He's totally unimpressed with his celebrities. So it makes you It puts you at ease. You're like, oh, he doesn't care, why would I care? Yeah, I don't know, Taylor, do you?
Yeah?
Yeah, No, I.
Didn't know.
I didn't know much of anything coming in, to be honest, I just kind of shoot from the hip.
I do remember I came in off book.
To do this this short because I was like that's what I did for everything, and that, like off Book is like being memorized. I had to which you don't need to do in voiceover because they have to script in front of you.
But when I did the short, it was oh man.
There was one person who was playing like a tie Fighter pilot and he ended up doing other episodes later on. But it was just like a long session with Felony and the Disney and lucasfilm people as they like talked through what we were going to be doing. I remember the only thought in my head was just like fake it till you make it, buddy, Like no one here has to know that you don't know a thing that's going on. But yeah, I was ready to lightsaber dual anyone and I grabbed a pen and they're like, you don't have a lightsaber. It was like, okay, that's what Jedi have. But it was fun and everyone was so great. Once we got moving with the show and into the first episode, I think we all sort of had that feeling of like this is going to be fine.
We're all trying to take our cue off of someone.
But I've everyone was in that same boat, and so I don't know you feel that energy in the show though, like watching it, I remember the feeling that I had that felt pretty palpable.
Taylor, I don't know how much of the show you've seen, if it I almost like, I think the joke in our group chat was I think it's a rewatch podcast minus the ree for a couple of guys.
Oh yeah, I can. I can admit to this pretty quickly.
I think I've just seen the episodes that they like they had premieres for like the season, the season premieeres and then finales, and then a couple of like the big episodes throughout the show they would screen for us at Disney that they wanted to show us. One that I remember in particular is way towards the end is a world between worlds. They showed us in the theater, so I saw those. But outside of that, it's a it's a fresh watch.
I'm excited we'll have fresh eyes, perspective, a different perspective on the show.
So did it invoke any memories of being in the booth or was it just like, because you know, I don't everythink memories and completely lost. I think they're just kind of dormant and then something will spark like they tells of a spark, it'll spark your memory. Go oh wait, yeah I remember saying that line. Was there anything like that or or was it pretty much like you're watching like a casual like any other fan, and just in consuming it like somebody would consume the show. I'm just curious about that because for me, it's like I watch as a fan. Now I'm watching through the eyes of somebody who wants to help drive a discussion on this podcast. But for you, while you were in it, like this was a big part of your lives and careers.
Well, I, like I said, I did not receive the voiceover copy for the shorts, so when they handed them to me, I was like, well, we're gonna water ski through this bad boy, you know, And I literally on the way home, was like, well, if I get fired, you know, it would have been great to have the lines in advance, but no, what just happened it But it actually made it more sort of real and in the moment, much like you know, Taylor is new to voiceover was and Freddie sort of guided him like a Jedi would guide a padawan.
You know.
Sometimes out of these happy accidents would come sort of the magic that where life was mirroring art or art mirroring life. Hara had no idea what she was doing either, so but she did have this sort of shorthand with Chopper, and I just kind of plugged into that. I was happy in watching the shorts. I was like, thank goodness that worked for the scene, you know, But I was kind of flying by the seat of my pants, as it were, and so was Harrah. So luckily it served the scene, but I was pretty terrified. I like to prepare my lines. I like to read the script ones through. I like to go through and highlight it. I like to get on a treadmill and you know, read the say the things out loud, get the words in my body, and then forget all of that and show up and be in the moment and listen. Did not do any of that for the short, So watching the shorts it was a lot of relief for me. And then watching the episode. I can remember watching it on I think it first aired on ABC, and I just I was blown away. I was just blown away. And I also had discovered this thing called Twitter at the time, so I was watching it in real time with new friends that I had made Teresa Delgado. She had a Star Wars podcast, and I ended up meeting her and we were tweeting back and forth live. I had never experienced anything like this at all, and so began all my friendships with all these Star Wars fans, and I count myself as one of the fans. But when that episode aired on ABC, it was like the first day of the rest of my life.
I feel like watching it again this time. I mean, I haven't watched these I have seen these before. I've seen all the episodes, but I haven't watched them in ten years. I mean, the only time I've ever seen them is either, like Taylor said, when you know, Lucasfilm and Disney wand screened them for us certain episodes, or when they first aired on television. And then so it's been a really long time since I've seen these, and so rewatching these first two episodes first couple, you know, it's the television movie or whatever. Gosh, it was like such a kind of delightful blast from the past. I mean, I see, luckily, we are all still very close, and so I am fortunate to get to see these guys, you know, semi regularly, and we get together and do dinners and things like that. So it's not like we've been out of touch, but I haven't sort of thought about like I haven't actually watched the show and so to get to watch it again, and I guess the first time I watched these episodes, all of these episodes, it's you know, very much. I don't know if you guys are like this, Taylor and Vanessa, but you know, I'm like watching like through like that my holding my fingers in front of my eyes, like with you know, just the tiny space to kind of like I'm like watching my performance and critiquing my performance and going like oh to youa well, you know, or like oh that could have been this or whatever. And this time I was just able to sort of enjoy it, and you know, it felt like nostalgic and sweet and I was able to watch the show for the storyline or rather than like sitting there and just I mean I still critique my performances, of course, but yeah, it was enjoyable in a different way and really just like a lovely walk down memory lane.
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree with all of that. I have a hard time. I'm actually not bad. We have a lot of friends who are artists and actors. There are people and you have two camps. Some people who just pick apart everything's gone because they know how the sausage is made. I can actually delude myself and be like, you know, I'm easily entertained, but I have a hard time watching myself. But I found watching this to like something animated a lot, a lot easier.
But also I'm hearing so many things and I'm like.
Oh, buddy, you had no idea what you were doing, Like, I mean, what we're watching. That's my first time ever speaking into a mic for character, you know what I mean. So there are times where I feel that I'm like, oh, you thought you really had to tell people you were running, as opposed to just like inhabit what that might be. And so it's fun. It's really fun watching and it makes me laugh. And I've been watching it with some of my friends, so it's sweet to hear their take on it all.
But it is such an entertaining show.
Totally.
I never ever watch my cartoons. I have the same perhaps the way you feel about on camera. I half the time I don't even know what I've done because everything has such an nda that I'm like, oh, I was in that. Oh cool? But this The only way I could say is that on the page, it's one thing. And I remember taking a class and called called from the page to the stage. And what happens when the art direction and the director in the art when when you know, the animated version of all those titles, when they imbue these words with the visuals that are beyond anything I could ever imagine. I don't even remember recording it half the time because it's so other than what I had imagined that I'm able to also enjoy it as a fan and by like wow, that's oh wait I said that, Oh you know, it was impressive twice reading it and then seeing it.
The other thing that struck me. I mean, I remember this, but because I haven't seen it in so long, it was sort of like, oh yeah, maybe to tie to tie into what you were saying, Taylor, Like, when I'm doing on camera work, if I end up watching something, I am very much like critical or yes, let's just say critical of my own performance, and so I have a hard time sort of like oh but what lovely cinematography? Like you know what I mean, Like I'm just I'm really sort of nitpicky again, But as y'all know, I'm quite type A and perfectionist. So but watching this I'm able to sort of like step back and go like, oh man, this music is I mean, the music just never fails to just blow my mind. And you know, the animation is so beautiful and like I love even from this stage. I know it like progresses as we go on throughout the seasons, but even at these nascent stages of the show, the animators using our uh, you know, facial expressions during the recording sessions, I don't for some of you guys. Some of you guys listening might know this and others might not. But as we said, we recorded all of our sessions together. But we also they had cameras set up at each one of our stations, I guess our microphones, and so they would record our performances and then send our performances to the animator. So the animators were actually like sort of infuse or sort of incorporate our gestures and facial expressions and reactions into the animation, which is so cool but so it's so fun to see that stuff, and people like you.
Guys feel that it that's an interesting thing.
I'm glad you brought up because I forgot that, Like I thought they were putting.
The cameras on us to be like, Okay, you at least have to show up.
Like I thought it was like a gesture of being sweet, like you can't come in your pajamas and you got to try and put it, you know what I mean. And then when I watched the show, I'm like, I see your guys's face, and even my friends they were like, oh, whoa, that's you. You smirk like that, like everyone starts in a different way. I'm like, oh, whoa, I see everyone in their character. It's so funny. Did you think it was like a ring cam for the lucasfilm? Like seriously, in the back of my mind, I was like, very sweet, guys, you don't need to turn the camera.
I thought they were off.
I was like, yeah, right, But they really did send it and they look amazing.
I think, Vanessa, what do you think? I think that the most, I think that Ezra is the like like, as far as those gestures and vacial expressions and smirks and grins, I feel like Taylor is all up in that animation of Ezra and the rest of us.
I agree, I agree, and Taylor, You've always been an old soul, but I feel like the earlier episodes capture you were intrinsic innocence to the to the medium that made you so authentic and vulnerable and in the moment and uh, I mean it was fun to watch you work, but it was also amazing to listen to. But I can hear knowing you now, and we've gone to so many conventions together, and you know, struggle to airports together. I'm telling you, this dude was like, do it like Heisman through the Dallas Airport, Like this guy is no joke. He led me like a Jedi through Gate A to Gate E. But but I have come to respect you more and more with every trip that we take, and so when I hear who you were then, I mean we've all changed to some extent. I mean it's ten years, y'all. I mean, we're at different phases in our lives. But I I just have so much more respect for you watching it this time around ten years later, For how you've always been the same person, but you have afforded me the honor of getting to know all of who you are. And I hear who I thought you were then and who I know you are now, and I see glimpses of it in the performance, and I just I felt so proud and same with you, Tia. I felt like, oh, you know, there was an innocence there that you guys were sort of learning the world of Star Wars in real time, and you know now we go to conventions and this and that. But I just I had such a warm feeling that it just kind of brought back. I could feel the past sage of time and how much everyone has matured and achieved excellence, you know with on camera stuff. You guys have really gone on to do such amazing things. I just feel so proud. I guess I'm space momming. Sorry, thank you.
Space Space Mom is real, you guys, and she's Vanessa Marshall.
And Taylor Gray apparently is the he's a Travis Hunter of our podcast Chris Black. The Heisman theme right there. See why I play you absolutely you will you pretty much are because Taylor, you and I met through Freddy Boxing, through our our because we had the same boxing coag wayn mccaugh and so that's how tailor that met. Yeah, we met punching each other in the face. Like literally, sure, it's true.
We took off our head care I'm like, okay, man, Like Star Wars, Freddie was funny, he was so good about I think you mentioned this, like he just took on that role outside of the show as well. I mean through that whole first two seasons. I think, like every other night you would, we would just be sending each other the dumbest selfies, Like the amount of ridiculous photos we must have of each other is a joke.
Yeah, I got quite the archive of that. I want to go into a couple of story things here. And here's the funny thing. When I watch Ezra in this first episode, and whether it's by design or just coincidental, but like I mentioned at the top of the show, Disney had bought Lucasfilm two years prior to the release of this And when I see Ezra, and maybe this crosses over to Taylor a little bit in terms of the beginning of his voiceover career. I see Aladdin because Aladdin was known as like the Diamond and the rough, like he doesn't understand his greatness yet, he just has to dig deep and understand it's there. But somebody has to help bring it out. And that's what I felt with Ezra and all the way down to hustling for Yogan Fruit and then hopping away, and I'm waiting for somebody to do a musical version of Ezra Bridger, like with that song a one Jump from Aladdin, but he's like one jump the Empire, one jump ohut of the Empire. Because even Caanan refers to you as a street rat in the episode, it's like he's a street ran. What do you mean you can help Boston. That's when I would love to have a cutaway of as we're walking on the ghost going rear for half Hello threat.
So I feel like I feel like we should put your hat in the ring because I'm not doing it too amazical era.
But I think, I mean, you guys might know.
It's one of those things that's weird, especially looking back my memories like Swiss cheese and like, uh, I don't know which parts informed the other, but I think the description said a lot of space or people online started writing it and then I read it and I was like spacelined because I honestly no idea, no idea people were saying it.
I saw an image or something.
You're You're absolutely right. I mean I don't think it was in the description, but I do remember there was some uproar about like wait a minute, this is just Aladdin and you know another really good head.
Of hair, right, so yeah, champion, champion and stuff.
So like the the.
You know, like a rapscallion loner has to like you know, self preservation and like Wiliness, Like I see the similarities, but Space Aladin is cooler.
I like Space Alabit. And speaking of everyone, first of all, in our cast here in real time has great hair, but this cast of Star Wars rebels. I mean collectively if it's top three for sure, if not the greatest collective ensemble of great heads of hair. Because between Canan's like Jedi ponytail, like Haras like Twilight, and Sabines like multi colored, you know, showing her artsy side. And then you know Taylor Ezra despite living alone in this communications tower where it doesn't look like he has access to a salon, like it's like he's a mirror. It's just like the volume is just perfect, like he's walking like walking talking Bedel Sassoon commercial And I want to bring up something else too, because and this is something we had talked about in previous discussions, or for whatever reason, voice acting seems to be looked at by some people. I'm not saying this is uniletta by some people like, oh, it's voice acting, it's a cartoon. It's easy, you get to show up to work in your pajamas or whatever. But from where I'm saying, and I've done a very small handful of voiceover work, I have such respect for it because in some ways it is so much more difficult than on camera. And I know, Tia, Taylor, Vanessa, you can all speak to this as well, because you know, when you have the super the close up, you can rely on subtleties. You can like de Niro is known to be right here. He's like very soft, but his facial movements are so subtle, you know what he's trying to get across. You can't do that necessarily with your voice when you're trying to get a certain message across. And I feel like this is the other goal of our podcast that hopefully people would just look at voiceover through a different lens and understand that, yes, on camera has its difficulties, its challenges, but in voiceover there is that as well, and I want to commend all three of you, but there's one scene in particular, and I know we sidebarred on this. My favorite scene in this first part is when Ezra's talking to Sabine and Sabine saying, this is kind of like family, and we don't know anything about Sabine's backstory. If you're rewatching like myself and you know how it ends like to me, it hit much different scene this time around versus when I first saw it. But when Ezra asked Sabine, what happened to your real family? And there's this whole there's this beat, and then Sabine says the empire, and there's so much like pain and backstory behind that, but it's two words and then quickly you shift it back to what happened to yours and it sounds like you're almost throwing the line away, but it's really again, we'll get to it in terms of where that comes from. And I know Tia, you can speak to this. I don't think the entire story of Sabine is fully fleshed out or known to you at that point, but you're setting the stage that there's so much more to this story, which is very on brand for Star Wars, because when you watch a new Hope, you know it's already part of a bigger story even without them saying it. And I'd love that scene. It's again, it's two three lines of dialogue, but so much thought and so much meaning behind it, and I just wanted to highlight that, and hopefully other people will see that, and I want to rewatch it after listening to this and going, oh wow, like you can really feel the pain, the sorrow, everything on the backstory of that. So I just wanted to highlight that.
Well, thank you, that's kind. I didn't know. I mean, it's been such a long time, but I mean I remember Dave Filoni telling me that I think she had said that Sabine was sort of the least flushed out character when we started this thing, and so you know, we kind of found her together. I mean, I don't mean like I had anything to do with storyline, but you know, she kind of got developed as we went along and or backstory and stuff. So when we recorded that scene, I didn't know anything about what was to come and see some three and onward, but you know, he Dave Filoni works on a need to know basis, and he tells you something when he feels that you need to know, and most of the time you don't need to know until you do, and do you absolutely do. We would get our scripts the night before our recording sessions. Sometimes we would get them at our recording sessions.
Part of a script.
Totally, totally, but yeah. So like he had given me, you know, he had given me background, and I knew something terrible had happened. And I knew, uh, something terrible had happened with her family and with her people. You know, there was a schism or a rift or whatever. So I don't remember exactly what I knew, but I know I definitely didn't know the specifics that we get into like two seasons later. But thanks, I'm glad that scene was impactful.
For you well.
And also it just shows that you know, you do have a very thorough and effective acting process because you probably had to fill in those blanks by yourself and make sure that that line carried weight, which it did. And I have no doubt and I can't speak for anybody. I'm sure it inspired the creators and the writers being oh, like there's something else there let's let's really get into that, which even in this first season you get the hints of what Sabin's backstories. And again, we're going to get there because we got what seventy six more episodes to go, so we got plenty of time to get there. But again, like voice acting, voice acting is acting. It's not theater acting is acting. TV film that's acting. It's all under that same umbrella, but just the different intricacies are going to be required for each specified sense of acting.
Yeah, when you're telling your mom waiting here, homeworked down, that's acting.
We're always sort of acting, is what I've realized.
No anyone that says like, oh, well, it's just voice acting or we have to like qualify it as voice acting and not just acting, I think it's silly because as a primarily on camera actor, coming to voice acting was wildly challenging because I don't have the facilities at my disposal, like you know, physical gestures, you know physicality, and you know you can't use your face, you can't use your body. You literally can just use your voice and emotions. And so it was a real exercise and I guess sort of flexing a muscle that I had somewhere, but you know, had been relying on so many other faculties tailor. I'm sure you felt the same. I'm assuming you felt the same way.
Yeah, I have the utmost respect. I'm so impressed.
I think it's much harder genuine because you've you've cut off all these other resources that you would use, like just facial awareness, Like you said, a look where you're putting your attention. None of that is there, and it's just all on the mic. And it's how rich can you make those choices just through your voice? And I mean, I thought it was huge and it was the best vocal training that I ever could have imagined. But I've also gone back and forth because early on I remember hearing like Vanessa and Steve and being so so impressed with like, oh my god, I can close my eyes and I feel everything that they are channeling through their voice and being like I need to gradually work up to layering more and more. But then there are moments too where I was like, I don't we all have different approaches, and like nuance is something, especially when you're young. I started acting so young, I was like, oh, kids are just precocious. I'm going to be serious and real, and so you would be looking for nuance And now that's like a silly thought as a child, but it was always there.
And then watching this show.
And I haven't seen too many other animated shows, but like, nuance does play so much well, like to the point this the lines that you picked out, that's just very nuanced simplicity, you know what I mean, And it's it's kind of beautiful to see that juxtaposed to some of the like bigger choices that I know Dave would encourage out of us, because I remember there was some line where he's like it was in our first episode I'm in space and he's like freaking out and Dacob going like, go bigger.
I'm like, dude, what this is insane? But then it does play and it is fun.
But when you juxtaposed to very just honest takes, I don't know, I'm enjoying the entire spectrum of all of our performances, and it's really sweet to see.
I was just gonna say, not just not to blow up your spot here, Vanessa, but when we're talking about like voice acting and versus not really versus acting, I mean, you know, Taylor and I were kind of newbies and we get to be we're like flung into this situation with absolute like legends, legends like sorry even as you're right here, but Marshall, Steve Bloom, d Bradley Baker, like if you're gonna learn from anyone, you learn from these guys, like there is I don't I think between the three of you, or even just any one of you, like there's nothing that these guys can't do. And to get to watch it in real time, right in front of you know, our faces, was so I mean inspiring and humbling and just so impressive. Like you know, you can ask de Bradley, you can give de Bradley Baker like, okay, D, you're a puffer fish, but you're being buried in quicksand and you're also smoking a cigar and you're like, what what on earth would that possibly sound like? And then D goes okay, and then he makes some sound and you're like, I didn't learn. I tried to learn. I didn't learn that much.
The voice I think exercise of our podcast.
Everybody you know, D or Vanessa or Steve like they do it and you're like, holy cow, that is exactly what that would sound like. That's absolutely right, you know, it's just I mean, thank goodness that we got to learn from the best. I just tried to be like a sponge and try and soak up as much knowledge and as much, you know, just as much as I could from these like just superbly talented voice actors slash just actors.
Well, I was going to say that y'all flourished, so bravo. I can remember being in graduate acting school and we studied Committia de larte and you could put a mask on, and when I put the mask on, I suddenly was doing these Martha Graham moves all over the place, and the teacher was like, good lord, all we had to do is put a bag on your head, you know, because I felt so free, that I felt invisible, and that invisibility gave me permission to play fully out. And I know a lot of people say, oh, actors, they're narcissists, they're so full of themselves. No, for you to be seen on camera and let your soul be seen through your eyes is a kind of It takes a humility to tell those stories on cameras. So equally, if you threw me on a set, I'd be like, Hi, how you doing? You know, or I don't know what it would be like, but it would be equally challenging. I my personality type, I think thrives in the invisibility and it's it's only my imagination is the only thing that limits me. And so when you when you say you close your eyes and you can see it, That's exactly what the process is and always has been like for me at the microphone, and I delight in that, I you know, I can play any age and this and that that the only thing that limits me is my imagination. But I was very impressed with your ability to just transition into it, given that you also excelled previous to this, you know, with on camera stuff. But I also want to say, you know, we were talking about watching the art and sort of seeing the animation and how that landed on us. I just one thing I really want this podcast to do is to celebrate the people behind the scenes. Killian Plunkett was a genius, Joel Aaron. I mean they still are geniuses, but I mean the writing team that we had, Simon Kinberg, we had Carrie Hart, Carrie Beck, Greg Weisman, Steve Melching, Henry Gilroy, Christopher Yost, Kevin Hopps. I mean, there were so many incredible people that were, you know, giving us the words to say, and then of course, you know, filling in and making all of these sentences breathe with color in a way that was at once powerful but also a lot of times hilarious. Like when the Stormtrooper falls, you know, it's just classic Star Wars comedy and the epitome of us Stormtrooper excellence right there, Like good job, buddy. But I do hope that we can. We had talked about perhaps going up to the ranch and having interviews with some of the people behind the scenes. Amy Beth Christensen is another incredible talent. I hope that we get to celebrate them in the course of this podcast. And really, you know, obviously some of them are not available there, you know, Stem and Kinberg is the you know, doing all sorts of stuff at the moment. But I do hope that we get to sort of amplify and lift them up and celebrate them, because I don't know that they are afforded that as often as I would love to see that happen, so in our Rebellious pod here, I hope that we can do sort of special highlight features like that, and if if fans have any requests or ideas, please let us know, because we would we would love to. Yes, we want to bring hall h to everybody, and if you can't get to a comic con, you can go to this podcast instead. But also, like, I never see any of those people at Comic Gods really, so it would be fun to hear sort of their perspective when they hear our words and see our performances on camera, to then translate that into what we all had the pleasure of experiencing and still can on Disney Plus.
Hey, I love that that's so well said. Yeah, because we definitely want to have this inclusive atmosphere, which is what we're trying to have for everybody, a safe space if he will. And so one other voice I want to give a NodD to and I feel like pay of respects to because this episode opens two things. This I don't believe this first scene that I talked about with Dark Vader was in the original broadcast. I think this is the prologue edition we're getting on Disney Plus. And jac again, can I'm just throwing stuff at JC. So we can have a really cool fact check and when we get to it, but rest in power to the late great James Earl Jones, who passed last year. I mean not just Tart Vader, but like I said, I mentioned coming to America. I love him as Prince of King's dad and come to America and just he's moved Fassa, he's everything. There's this movie in the nineties called Sneakers that he shows up in the end and not a lot of people know about it, and he's just he was the actor's actor Sam, Like I always thought everything, oh Henry, yes, but I went blind. So it's like we want to just like pay respects to the late great James Earl Jones, because when you think you know Star Wars, you can't not mention the James Earl Jones in the same sentence. A question I want to throw up to the three of you, and I feel like I just as your friend and as a fan of the show, curious about coming off of Clone Wars, which is such a beloved series. And I love Clone Wars and I love how there are ties into Clone Wars throughout Rebels, But was there any sort of one did you feel pressure from that because knowing that fan base and knowing how fandoms can be, and also was there any sort of, for lack of a better word, like orientation somebody saying, Hey, FYI, this might happen. I'm just curious about that because I know that you're stepping into a world that is so vast, with so many fans, with so many opinions, and on the one hand, it could be great when they love you, but if they don't, it cannot be great. So I was just curious about that.
Well, yeah, yeah, ahead, yeah, I mean, but to the extent that I also have a Star Wars collection upstairs, and I have my original Chewi that's off card, and I played with my toys too. I am one hundred percent in alignment with most of those viewers and know what they demand, and so I felt like I was getting to take my toys out of the room upstairs and bring them to the record. I didn't actually do that, but what I'm saying is I felt that the loving energy that was in the group, Freddy's vast knowledge of the dude, he's one hundred percent like the Lord Jedi of all I mean, next to Sam wit Or, I don't know. It's a it's a toss up between the two of them. But I felt that we were in great hands with Dave Filoni and all the writers that I mentioned, I mean, and there are even more than Nicole Dubuck. I mean, there were so many people that were as big a fans as we are, and felt some of them had worked on the Clone Wars. We were given all the best possible tools to accomplish the task at hand. I will say when I met Ashley ex Stein, I one hundred percent ugly cried, not professional at all. I was like, oh, where you up the Jedi order though, you know? And she's like, well here and she give me a sweatshirt. I was not anyway, I got it together for the record, But I do remember d Bradley Baker at were we I think I was at Buzzy's record and he said are you ready? And I said what do you mean? He goes, welcome to the rest of your life? So what does that mean? He said, your life is going to change? And I think he did not mean that in sort of a oh in terms of notoriety or this or that. But when you become a part of the hashtag Star Wars family. That's not just a hashtag. It is a very real thing. I think the bond that the Clone Wars actors have Dee Bradley Baker, James Arnold Taylor, Ashley x Steyin, Sam Witward, Nika Futterman, all. I mean, there are so many more incredibly talented actors in that cast, you know, and you have bad Batch that came from that. I think what he spoke of is sort of the I don't need circle of life is the wrong term, but there is just a very real bond that you step into the center of and sort of humbly offer up your best storytelling abilities, whether you're visible or invisible. And I just remember, I'll never forget him saying that to me, And and that sentence meant more to me with every session that we did, and I came to see what he meant by that, especially when we did go up to the ranch and he hit a bottle of bourbon in the fireplace, you remember, I do.
Remember, anyway, And I went again about a year later, and I went and tried to find it and it was not there. It was not where he had had had hidden it. And I was like, somebody just got hand covered. I handed up, Yeah, like it happened upon a really nice bottle of burdon. I will say I had. I mean, I had no idea, like there's no there's nothing to really prepare you. But I do remember Dave kind of giving us sort of like a pep talk I guess you might say, like an orientation slash pep talk of like, well, guys, this is kind of what you know, what what is lies in your future? And we were I was excited and sort of, you know, not really apprehensive, just excited and didn't really know. I kind of conceptually understood what he was saying. But nothing prepares you, because I remember we did our first we did San Diego Comic Con, all five of us. We did a panel. We had I don't know, five thousand people in our audience, and not one second of our show had aired yet, no one had seen our show. And so that was like the first inkling I had of like, oh wow, this is something much bigger and so much greater, grander than I had ever than I could have imagined.
And it was so.
Incredible because people were you know, the artwork had been released and people were dressed up. You know, they were already cosplaying our characters, and I was like, what is this? What is happening? And it was incredible in the best way people. You know, I don't know about you guys, but my initial sort of experience was that there is this sort of you know, global or like intergalactic Star Wars family and they just right out the gate open like welcomed me and welcomed us and welcomed our show with open arms. And it was really kind of overwhelming and so touching. And you know, that's continued on, like we're so lucky that we still get to do stuff like this, We get to do this, we get to like go to comic cons and meet fans and they're still cause playing our characters, which is just amazing. But yeah, that first San Diego Comic Con was my first inkling of what was to come. And like Vanessa the Mandalorian Merx, Vanessa and I as honorary members, and they presented us both with these like handmade Sabine Bren helmets. Oh yeah, there it is right there on Vanessa's wall.
In my live stream room, and I have the Sabine helmet hanging on the wall. For those of you who are listening. We are recording video, and we're going to figure out how to let you see all these fun things.
We'll make a social clip. We'll make a social clip so people can see.
Yeah, but that was that was one of the most spectacular nights of my life. For sure.
That was pretty incredible.
Yeah, how about you, Taylor, because you were nineteen when you started on this show.
Right, Yeah, I was telling people I was on Clone Wars. I was like, I'm doing the animated STO show the Clone Wars.
Was like, I don't think so, maybe right, yeah.
Could be.
I remember Dave saying something to us early on of that was just at the right time to be jaded, where I was like, I don't know shows i've been I don't get canceled, and I was like, I don't believe anything until I see it, Like who knows. But Dave told us something that when he said it, I didn't know what he meant. He was like, here's how Star Wars fans are. We're gonna we're gonna put something new out. They're gonna flock to it, They're gonna complain about it, tear it apart, and then they will love it. And he was like, it happy with everything if we put a trailer off for a film, a video game, and he wasn't entirely wrong. I remember going to I mean still conventions you'll hear early on people were like, I didn't want us to watch the show because I was such a Clone Wars fan, and I get it. You're like they were scared that Disney might mess it up, like why put a bad taste in your mouth? The animation looked different, and they're like, then I gave it a shot. A lot of people haven't even seen the show until Disney Plus. They were like, or yeah, Disney Plus. They were like, I came to it later, and now I've realized how great it was in fun and I think that's cool, like it's a testament to the show. But there was definitely an apprehension I think with people at first.
I was just oblivious to it.
Like they were saying stuff about it, and I was like, yeah, cool, sounds good, want you give it a shot.
But I remember going to these were they called Star Wars weekends.
Set the show hadn't come out, and we I wish they still did that. That was fun out in Disney World. They would bring us out like different weekends, and there would be like an actor from Clone Wars, acts from Rebels, acts from the movie, acts from a movie, like a different disparate group each time. And I remember we would go in this like parade like what they have at Disneyland at the back of the car, and like I see pictures now of that.
There's just this look.
In my eye being like what am I doing, like just waving to be able to be like you haven't seen the show.
I could have really just screwed all this up.
But I remember thinking like, oh my god, there's a cause playing character in the park of our characters, like walking around with you, and I remember being like, oh man, I screwed everything up.
This character is not going to be what people want.
And it was just such a funny thing because you realized, oh, this is way way bigger than we could have imagined. You feel like this, this small pebble on this beach that is Star Wars, and it's just so.
Cool to be a part of it.
The fact that it's still lasting and it's going to be forever, and like Vanessa said, this Star Wars family and that's what's so special.
I think my first Ugly Cry was at the Star Wars weekend. The weekend I went. I was there with Peter Mayhew, and as I said, I have Chewy was my first action figure, and so there's that. I couldn't even look him in the eye. I was freaking out. I luckily had never seen any of Freddy's movies, so I was like, who's this guy? I mean, no offense, but no, sorry, bro, I don't know. I don't know how I missed the whole train. I think I was in college and my brain was I was in the library. I don't know. Not to denigrate anything he's done, and forgive me for not seeing it. I'll go home and watch it right now.
But I was the target demographic. Yeah, I watched all of this stuff on your behalf.
Yeah. I just was like, are you a good person? Oh? Cool, We're good And he is. He's an incredible man and an incredible father and a great husband and just an all around great guy and very direct and I love it. But Star Wars Weekends there was a woman who had waited out in the cold Well, Florida. But still, you know, it's dewey out. She slept outside to give me a gift of Lecou. Now the show hadn't aired. I started sobbing immediately, like an any form of human kindness like that that exhibits that, like there is goodness in humanity. I just wept. And I'm still friends with her. And that was my first experience of this hashtag Star Wars family. And that's what I'm saying. That was what ten years ago, over ten years ago, because I think that was before the show even aired. But it was times like that that I realized, Wow, we are really stepping into the world that Dee Bradley Baker had mentioned. It's another dimension of human interaction where there's kindness. And yes they may complain at first and fall in love and this and that, but we all managed to come together at the end of the day with our various collections. But yeah, it was. It was a very moving experience that has not been lost. And I have the le cou upstairs and I might wear them next episode. I don't know.
Please do thank you and thank you for sharing that. And I know that our listeners and eventually our viewers are going to be really appreciative of it because your three years so open. You're very generous through knowledge of Jemmy generous with the stories, and I think that just adds to why people love the show so much, and it almost fills in the blanks like, oh yeah, I already loved the show, but like them, get to know you as people and hearing these stories is a true for me too. I get the front row seat to some of the best information in the house. So we are a part of a show that I want to induce the three of you, and also our listeners were also going to officially introduce j C Reifenberg, our producer and resident fact checker. So, Jc, what do you have for us today on our pilot episode A Pot of Rebellion?
All right, I got all sorts of fun stuff. I just want to start by saying, last night I rewatched these two episodes on an oculus in a virtual movie theater, and they play like a movie. I mean, it feels like you're watching a Star Wars movie. I sat down in the virtual front row, so like the screen was you know, I had to turn my head to watch everything. And so it is very cinematic in a way that like a lot of cartoons and TV shows aren't. So if anybody has an Oculus at home. Highly recommend watching this on Disney Plus in a movie theater.
Or if Oculus wants to sponsor ros And because that. Yeah, I just just found out their Oculus because endorsement from JC.
I guess it's called meta no meta quests, So yeah, sorry, sorry Oculus, or sorry meta fact checking myself in real time. John, you mentioned the show takes place five years before the Battle of Weaven.
That was correct.
You also mentioned that Clone Wars was released on October third, which is also correct, so at least the same day. In two thousand and eight, there was some debate about Ezra's hair. I just want to put out there that, like I mean, all the seventies hair in the original Star Wars is pretty magic. When when a little bit of wind hits Luke Skywalker looking out at the twin sun setting. I don't want to start controversy at the first episode, so I just want to recognize that moment and that hair. Talked a lot about the term cliffhanger that became a coined term kind of in the serials of the nineteen thirties, which relates to Star Wars, because that was kind of where George Lucas pulled his inspiration for a new hope to begin with is he wanted to create something like You Know That and the opening crawl, which he pulled from those as well. Going a little bit deeper, the first credited cliffhanger was to a magazine story called A Pair of Blue Eyes, which was written by a guy named Tom Hardy, not the guy who plays Venom, but different Tom Hardy that was published in either or eighteen seventy two or eighteen seventy three, where at the end of the article the hero is literally left hanging off a cliff, so you'd have to buy the magazine next month to see what happens to the hero. If you're rewatching US, Taylor, you mentioned watching World Between Worlds is one of the few episodes you actually watched. Stick with us. World Between Worlds is season four, episode thirteen, so we'll hear more about that in some episodes. Vanessa, you mentioned watching it on ABC. Just to give everybody the complicated release timeline of Star Wars Rebels. We also mentioned the San Diego Comic Con panel that happened on July twenty fourth, twenty fourteen. I guess apparently there is a screening on July twenty six, ty fourteen, which is the first time anybody in the public actually saw Star Wars levels. Then on September twenty seventh, twenty fourteen, there was an official premiere at Century City, which I was actually at the press conference for, so that's where I first saw all of you guys. October third, twenty fourteen was the Disney Channel. October sixth, twenty fourteen was Disney XD. Then it was released on DVD. Remember that, that's how long ago this was. There was a thing, kid, It's called DVDs that was a shiny diss that you could watch movies on. That was October fourteen, twenty fourteen, and then finally on ABC on October twenty six, twenty fourteen for a time.
Thanks JC, I've got more.
You guys talked about voice acting and delineating it between on camera acting and how it's really the same and in some ways more difficult, I wanted to point out. Famously, on the set of A New Hope, Peter Cushing hated the writing boots that he had to wear, so a lot of his scenes were filmed waste up because he literally was wearing slippers on the bottom half, so even on camera. Actors have a long tradition in Star Wars of showing up to work in their pajamas.
And then those boots.
Actually, or those slippers that he wore on set of the Desk Star actually went up for auction in twenty and twenty three, listed for between fifteen and twenty thousand pounds. It does not look like they actually sold. So if you guys are going to sell your pajamas, price them a little bit better, but you might be able to get.
A vacation out of it.
Vanessa, you mentioned taking a college class putting on a mask or your teacher said, Oh, I just had to put a bag on your head to draw this out. Reminded me of a famous Oscar Wild quote, which is something to the effect of give a man a mask and he'll tell you the truth. Or I think the actual quote was a mask tells us more more than a face. And then John, you mentioned the Darth Vader prologue on this In it he mentions children of the Force, which is also a reference to a Clone Wars episode in which Cad Baine goes after Jedi kids. That was season two, episode thirteen of the Clone Wars. And then going back even further to nineteen ninety five, there was an expanded universe novel by an author named Barbara Hambley called Children of the Jedi, in which Luke goes out looking for clues to pass Jedi as he's trying to rebuild the second coming of the Jedi Knights. And then you guys mentioned how the animation style was a little bit different in Rebels than it was Clone Wars. I remember from the press conference back when the show was released, and also just cross reference. A lot of that comes from original Ralph mcquarie art, So a lot of what you see in Chopper can be point pointed back to some of the crazy Ralph McQuary stuff of R two D two. The Stormtroopers are lifted almost directly from that famous Ralph mccruary painting with the stormtrooper with the shield and the lightsaber and a lot of that. So if you like the animation style Rebels, you don't know who Ralph McQuary is, look him up because there's a wealth of information there as well.
I'm here for the fact check. That's great a little in there too.
I loved it. I love an Oscar wild reference. Who we're talking about Star Wars.
Yeah, we're very academia here on the Power clearly because I'm Jeandan and you're mentioning Oscar Wild. So thank you, jac and I think you're going to quickly become everyone's favorite part of the podcast because I love learning.
I would like to give one more hair shout out to Canaan's mullet in all its glory when he makes the ultimate sacrifice. We'll get there spoiler alert, but Canaan's mullet. Please, if we're gonna like note fine hair in the Star Wars Rebels universe, I think that deserves a special mention.
Oh yes, we'll do a standalone episode just on that, just.
On his mullet. I appreciate that. But I also want to make mention I did Wonder Con before the show had even aired, and I met the Rogue Rebel family Sal and Liz Prowess and their two kids, Lizzie and Axel, and I just want to give them a shout out because they were I couldn't. I saw the five Oh first, you know, okay, great Darth Vader, the whole nine. But I looked over and saw the Rogue Rebels, this entire family, and they even had a chopper, like a little Teddy Bear chopper, and the show hadn't even aired yet. I just want to give a special shout out to them as well, because they really are very much a part of the the core friends that I have made in the Star Wars universe. In fact, I hope to go to Star Wars Celebration with them in April. So I just I could not talk about the first part of this sort of blowing up without mentioning that they have become very much a part of my life and I love them very very much.
I love that, of course, and you're talking about Star Wars family, so that very much is including that. So thank you for sharing that, Branessa. So to our listeners, thank you for tuning into our first episode of Potter Rebellion. You can follow us on socials. It's just Potter Rebellion on Instagram, where we will post those social clips and hopefully we're gonna have a lot of good stuff there. Please remember to rate subscribe five star rating please. Okay, here's the thing. If you, for whatever reason don't like our podcast, you can give us a five star rating and say whatever you want in the comments. I think that's a to find enough thing, because at least then we're up in the algorithm, we keep our bosses that iHeart happy. I think that's a fair trade off. You can also write to us Potter Rebellion Podcasts at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you if you have like fan theories, fan art, fan suggestions, or maybe there's a guest you would like us to have on. We want to hear from you because, like we're alluding to, we are an inclusive podcast. We want to include you in this whole journey we're on. It's not just limited to us talking into our microphones. So Potter Rebellion podcast at gmail dot com. Please, we would love to hear from you. And I guess I'll see you all next week, right, Well, we should probably keep going because there's a part time this episode. Yeah all right then if if anything, we're going to come up with some sort of an outro. I don't know what that is yet because again we're clearly so lowerhears, but if uh, I'm just gonna say we will see you all next week for Spark Rebellion Part two, and.
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