Pod of RebellionFrom Vizago to Imperial Walkers to Pee Wee Herman to the very special appearances of 3PO & R2D2 to Rebels tying into the Skywalker Saga; and did everyone know what Chopper was actually saying? The group discusses this and much more on today's episode!
I don't remember you.
How were those lines written out with RTD two and Chopper going back and forth like where their act was actually dialogue?
Vanessa correct me if I'm wrong with Chopper's lines were never written out.
Yeah, I think it was like beeple boot bop, and then parenthetically there was something like what he was actually saying.
I need to then give a massive apologies.
Hey everybody, I'm Vanessa Marshall, the voice of Harrison Doula, and welcome to the Pod of Rebellion.
We have a few family members here today.
Hi, I'm TSR car Sabine Rind Specter five.
Hey, what's up. I'm Taylor Gray spect six.
I'm Johnley Brody, not nonspector but moderator for this fine podcast, and we are obviously still very very dialed in and organized with our introduction. Hi everybody, how is everybody doing? Great?
Good?
Yeah, nice to see you guys.
I love doing this. I know we're only we're on episode three, but it's just I got so excited before recording because I know we get to hang released a little bit so and this is I like being around friends, so this is just great for.
Me for us as well.
Yeah, but how is everybody? Everybody's good? I'd like to do little check ins and I want to check in with our listeners too, like I always believe in checking in is important, especially with friends are just in general and checking in with yourself too. So how is everybody awesome?
All as well? Yeah?
Yeah, not much too, not much to report, which is good?
All right? Well on that, I believe while we're here, we might as well go over an episode of Star Wars Rebels. I mean right, I mean, wow, we're here, yeah, I mean we came all this way to Zoe meeting and computer So Droids and Distress original air date October thirteenth, twenty fourteen, so crazy, like that was such a long time ago. We have incredible guest stars on this, incredible characters that make some guest appearances which we will get into here. Our recap of Droids and Distress, we get a sense of what rebel lifestyle entails for the Ghost crew. Ezra is now fully ingrained into the Ghost family and more eager than Daniel LaRusso in nineteen eighty four to get his force training going. We also see that outrunning the Empire takes its toll, and unfortunately being in the Rebel alliance isn't a salary position, so we see the harsh reality of the rebel lifestyle, which can entail running low and supplies money and even morale. So with their backs against the wall, the Ghost Crew takes on a job from the Sketchy Vizago and throughout this journey we meet some very special folks from the Star Wars universe, so Being continues to show her Zeno linguistic skills. We learn a little bit more about Callus and its tied to Lossots, which are Zeb's people, which thus then ignites the fire for what will be their ongoing rivalry. And as we get to see more of what makes the Ghost Crew so special, we also get more info as to how they and the Star Wars Rebels continuity all tiesing to the Star Wars Skywalker Soca continuity. But a lot of us know and love. So that is my quick recap for everybody. What is everybody? What are initial thoughts after watching this episode?
By anyway, that was fantastic, so so safe jeez, Yeah.
And I love Coret Kaid references. So one of the things you will hear a lot of Cobraka and Karated represents throughout that podcast.
Yeah, no issues with that. I loved it. It has both been a long time since we've done that, but it's also doesn't feel like that it could possibly have been ten years ago, or actually I guess we would have recorded it eleven years ago, right, but yeah, I just I'm I'm it's reminding me like, oh right, right when we recorded this one, because it's been such a long time since I actually saw this thing. It's been since it aired, So it's a nice little walk down memory lane, which this whole thing will be I realized, but we're just getting started, so it still feels fresh and new to me.
I'm trying to remember when you spoke aqualish? Was that was that spelled out?
Like, yes, yeah, it was spelled phonetically. This is this is trying to remember what we did. I cringed hard when I when I watched that, I was like, oh geez, he's great, Well, thank you. I will say that I this was my first time. You know, obviously I do it much more throughout the series, but this was my first time having to speak a language that I've never seen or heard before. And I remember wanting Dave to like, tell me, how does it sound? You know I talked before about like being a perfectionist and being a type A and needing to know like the right way or wanting to do it correctly, and him, I remember, this was like one of the first times that he was like, you say it how you say it? And I'm like, no, but that's not if I if I speak all these languages, I would say. He was kind of like, what you're you you got this, and I was like, but I don't got it. I don't know this language. So anyway, I hope, I hope it makes me cringe less in future. But this one, thankfully, it was only like a three or four word sentence, but we got through it.
I thought you'd think great, and I thought it was amazing.
Yeah, and JC can fact check us on this, but I believe aqualish is like adjacent to like hot tease or Rodian language, and you had the cadence down, so to me, like, that's what I gravitated towards you.
Yeah, that was that was completely on purpose, very planned out.
Yeah, of course it was because you're you're awesome.
Thank you.
It's fun that we had Suko and Archie. Yeah, going at it with Chopper. This is the first episode I hadn't seen because the first episode we saw that. I feel like a couple of times when they showed just this, I was like, wait, they were on the show.
I think that was.
Pretty incredible, And I looked it up.
It says that that Anthony Daniels did it.
Yeah, yeah, wait, Taylor, you might not have seen this episode, but we did record the episode.
Yeah, but I'm now blown away my short to memory. I'm trying to wipe away last week. Honestly, yeah, ten years ago. Trust me that that is in a capsule flying off in space somewhere. But sure, I thought it was so fun that Chopper was going back and forth with I was like, how were those I don't remember you? How were those lines written out? With RTD two and Chopper going back and forth? Like, were there act was actually dialogue?
No, I but as to correct me if I'm wrong, but there was no. Chopper's lines were never written out. It would just say right then, I.
Said, yeah, I think it was like people boot bop And then parenthetically there was something like what he was actually saying exactly? Then That's what I believe, And of course C three pos lines were.
I need to then give a massive apology. It's not the mandelific. But I've told everyone at every convention that I was like, yeah, I was always reading Chopper's lines, like you don't know what they said, but it was this, this and this.
I thought they were always written out there.
I believe in English, right, I thought.
They were written out and then I can check pop boo boo boo.
Yeah, I can check on a script I'll look for next time. I'll double check. But I recall even if I believe that there was like chirp, chirp, chirp or bebop bop or something along those lines, and then parenthetically, what was inferred, however, you could sort of tell from like Chopper, like whatever came after the beat bop boo boop, it was pretty clear that Chopper had said or done something adversarial or otherwise, and it was indicated as to what they were saying.
I'm yeah, I think I might have just written out stuff so that I had a specific thing to real because I'm like, I know I saw on my script words, but I think.
It's so interesting to me because I remember no beat boop ups. I don't remember any beat boot Bop Britain. Now I feel like I feel like it was words. But what if we just what if we just sort of like projected what we Oh my gosh, how.
We Why don't we see if I can find it and I've got a grip hold on, let me try and find it here.
You're all just a fluent and astromic and it's like it's just easily like you look at the carrias like, oh, like that's just what do you remember?
Well?
The reason being is that when the first time we actually watched an episode and we heard Chopper for the first time, I was like, oh, that's funny, that's not what I you know I did. There was a surprise to me. I don't know. Maybe maybe that's because I'm not as being.
Wise but not Dave. Dave didn't tell us that he was Chopper for a while.
No, no, he know, Yeah, we know that for a very long time, which is interesting because everyone else knew once it came out, but we did.
And also when you say he didn't tell us for a long time, I don't recall him ever telling us. It was just sort of like it came to be known and we were all like Dave, but.
At the end we knew because I remember I had made it a little mission in my head. I was like at one point, like we're all here, we should all record together. Like I remember asking him through the very last two episodes, like just do it with us, like do one line, because you've never done it with us, and I don't think he did.
He didn't, He didn't do it all.
He never recorded with us there.
I watched the episode with some of my friends as well, and did you any feedback?
They yeah, they said, don't let this go a second season. No, no exactly.
They were like, hope you don't make it through this. Yikes, they were. They were really impressed by the music. They're like who scored this? And I went back and I was like, it's an I think Ken kind of did it with like an orchestra, right. It is so good and you will even think through these episodes like because I remember it standing out in other episodes in a big way, and I was like, dang, even in these type of Dutchess like beside quests and ways, it stands out how unique and beautiful the music is. Where I then just started paying attention to that at times, and I was really really impressed.
I'm so glad you brought that up because I'm I feel the exact same way, like I know that like through season two and then three and then four, like the music just gets better and better and better and like this like orchestral amazing sort of like just really impressive score. But in this episode, episode three, I was.
Like, Shopper, I found it. Sorry, go on, sorry, I'm sorry.
What I was gonna say, I'm so sorry just that that I remembered that army. It went hard, like right from the job, like it's so good, it's so impressive. Are you okay?
I found it? It was in little there was no there's no beatop boop. It's just it's in like Circom Grave. What are the what are those arrows? It says Chopper found the door.
Yeah, I thought it was just right.
Oh thank god, my apology.
Guys. Yeah, what I've been saying at convention.
I don't know why I remember seeing I must be confusing different droids, but I thought there was beatop boop and then found the door anyway, so uh yeah, there's no.
Share that stuff. Like we maybe we can make that a social clip or maybe we can.
I don't think. I don't think you should be doing that.
What they've already seen the episode.
It's not it's not privileged.
Yeah, we signed an NDA before it came out, but if you showed someone the script today, they've already seen the episode.
I don't think.
There There's always ways. I've seen other people do it. We can double check. Obviously, I don't want to speak out of turn, but I've seen people do the script the screen stuff, so I feel like maybe that could be something cool we can do. So we'll look into that. No promises, but thank you for finding that, because I was wondering myself because I know on Guardians of the Galaxy when they do the group lines, obviously all we hear is Ion group, but they also tell Vin Diesel what he's actually saying with the Ion group. So I'm glad to know that there was some sort of translation for you all to get the context of what cho Yeah.
It was very organic because he was just another member of the I mean, he is obviously another member of the crew, but in the dialogue, his dialogue is his responses and where you know, we're responding to something ridiculous he said, and we knew exactly what he was saying, so it wasn't until you know much and Dave never recorded with us like that, never. Yeah, So like it was, it was. It was fun to watch it after the fact, knowing what the intention is behind that particular beep up boob and what he was actually saying at the time, or you know.
What what Chop was saying.
I honestly cannot believe I found that script, So I forgive me for my outburst interrupting your thoughts.
I'd I'd be stoked too if I saw that. So, like Benu at the top of the show, of this episode, incredible guest stars, I believe he's night it's Sir Anthony Daniels. So I'm guessing he wasn't in the booth of you. I'm guessing he recorded separately in England. He was in England, which they do. I know what Frank, cause when Frank ozos Yoda, he's been doing remotely since the prequels, so I know that. But also we had the late great Paul Rubins as a guest voice RX.
Twenty four Wait wait not pee wee.
Yeah, yeah, he's on this episode. He's X twenty four in the space. So you have not only Archie D two in C three PO, which, first of all, it's hard for me to say three Po not as Mark hamllon a new help like in the trash Conpactory, I would have to say it like that. But you have three PO, RX twenty four, Paul Rubins and our due to end Chopper. You got a lot of great droid action in one scene.
Droid action. I like that.
Yeah, the droids are so cool and they're such a fun They're not even a side's that.
They're so like pivotal to Star Wars.
So it was fun that there was a whole thing centered on them and the antics of like because C three PO and RG D two are so well known that Chopper I feel like, kind of stepped in and sort of bullied them in a certain way. It made Chopper really come to prominence in my mind where I was like, oh, yeah, this this droid is like.
Here he was like Chopper was like the series where I was like, oh, no, I.
Guess exactly, which is so funny. This is my show and we're guest star.
I felt I don't know about you guys, but like I felt like kind of got some feels like when the door goes up and it's them, I of course had forgotten. I don't remember what each of these. There are very few episodes just by the name of the episode that I remember what happens in the episode since it's been so long, so I didn't remember, you know, who is in this episode. And as soon as that door opened, I got like, I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot yes, yes, yes. And also I really love like the beef Chopper like gives no fs and like like this is this is like the episode where we the audience get to really get a sense of like who Chopper is, what his his sass and his like mischievousness and all of that.
Yeah, something that stood out to me that was so funny is I don't know, I haven't seen this before, how casually they're talking while moving through hyperspace.
He just blue blue all outside of the ship, and I'm like, they're just having a regular conversation and not regular there are stakes to it, but like they're talking very normally for moving at hyperspace.
To me, I was laughing so hard at that. I thought it was incredible.
Yeah, because especially in contrast to like Spaceballs, where going through ludicrous speed, you can't inform a sentence, so really you all are doing about doing something right there exactly. And also like to see three PO and R two D two I believe, and again luckily we had the great JC to fact check everything. I believe they're the only two characters to appear in every single one of the Skywalker Saga movies. I think, so I know they for sure have. I don't know if they're the only ones. But and little fun trivia for everybody for those who don't know George Lucas. When he wrote A New Hope, he based it off the Kudasawa movie Hidden Fortress, which sent it down on the two like, you know, lowliest characters for lack of a better term, like the unlikely characters, which is what A New Hope was. You centered on three PO and R two D two. So then for those two to be carrying on through the Skywalker Saga being in every single one. But then come to your show on Star Wars Rebels as like the second broadcast episode. My I remember seeing that in real times, Like, holy I gotta bleeve myself because a family friendly show. Uh, And I just love the dynamic of those two, like they're two of the greatest duos. It's up there with like Shaq and Kobe. You know, uh, I have a.
Question for probably Vanessa and John if you know that it's it? Are how old or are droids ageless? Or is it from when they were created?
Like how old?
I mean JC might know this actually have to do everything, but like how old would r T D two and C three PO be or is age not a fact? Age not a thing for droid?
But they were created?
Are they getting creates like like because you know like iPhones, motherboards.
Software, jades and like that might barnware.
Yeah, that might be a j C question.
All right, let's let's let's put a pin in that good question.
That's a great question because I know, like I mean, the funny thing Anakin built three PO and Phantom menace. So it's like, are we doing the math of that's how many years before? Yamen? And would that be it? You know, I don't Our two has been around for a minute. I feel like our two has more of a backstory than three PO as far as I know, as far as what I've seen. But again, luckily you've got JC to help us out there.
Well, if we could, if we could translate the beeps and the boots and the box, we would probably hear R two being like who is this little whipper snapper could come in to me like you know, who's like an old sage old droid and this like Chopper is this like upstart?
R two is like you know what I've been through many.
Seriously my story, you know idea, it's.
Like, dude, you don't let me tell you the stuff that I have seen? Yeah, probably be like you know what, actually, probably Chopper wouldn't back.
Off, Chop Chopper would have no yeah, no regard.
I had a quick question for you all because I know how it works on live action episodic with guest casts. I know it could be tough for guest cast to come in because you've got to find the ribbon of the show really really quickly. Is it like that with voiceover? But essentially you all are kind of in a way guest cast too, because Star Wars is so huge. So I was just wondering if at all any kind of insight you can give in terms of I don't know, I don't want to put as like the weight of that responsibility, but what that dynamic is like in the booth, because I don't think a lot of people think about that or know about that.
I think that this question is actually more applicable to us than probably a lot of other you know, animated series, which is probably why you asked. But yeah, because you know, normally it's kind of a non issue, wouldn't you guys say, like, you go in the booth and you I've worked on shows where I might record with like the people in the people most in the scenes I'm in, and you know, so maybe there's like one two more people in the booth with me and we're doing a scene. But because we recorded every single episode as a cast, as our crew, I guess it does actually apply here because then we would have guest stars like David the Great David o'yelowo, who came in as callous and sort of we were like kind of already a fan pretty quick, pretty viet like it happened organically, but quite quickly. I would say, I don't know if you guys would agree with that, but so yeah, I think, but I also think that we're all like pretty nice, friendly, personable people. So I hope we felt I hope we made our guest stars feel welcome, and you know, it was I also kind of feel like we were all like, holy crap, we're working on Star Wars altogether. Look at us, like look at us. How much fun we're having, Like, look at what we get to do. So it always felt kind of just like a fun gathering of friends, even like new friends. You know.
I remember Leam O'Brien laid an Imperial officer, and he came I think somewhere in season one, and I'm not remembering exactly where, but we were so much more sort of you know, trying to honor the Star Wars saga, and like you mentioned, the sort of pressure that perhaps we had more than any cartoon that was, although maybe for Marvel cartoons you are sort of upholding a tradition of sorts, but we had a bit of pressure. And then I think he comes back in season two and we were like throwing bananas, and you know, I remember he looked at me and he goes, wow, you guys really settled in and found your rhythm here, and I was like, what do you mean.
He's like, well, the last time.
I was here, you were all like, oh hello, I couldn't possibly oh, you know, we were so timid and now we're like, you know, we were definitely and I remember with them with Catless, there was something I can't I don't know if if Steve was joking around or it was something.
To do with the episode, with with what someone was wearing, and maybe it's something that happens later on. But I used the term ginch and he looked at me with his very British mind like I'm sorry, what and ghinch is your undergarment? And I was this like really strange moment with a guest star where I'm teaching him an American slang word for an undergarment, and I was like, hr, you know.
I don't think I've ever heard that term ghinch really ginch?
Oh, Okay, I don't. Maybe it's a Canadian thing.
I'm Andrew used to say it all the time, like don't forget an extra pair of ginch. He doesn't sound like that, but.
Right now, yeah, we'll talk.
So maybe he didn't look at me with his British mind. He just looked at me like any civilian who would say, what on earth are you talking about?
But that was that does it say?
Sorry? I just I ginch? Is a Canadian slang term for men's underweares oh in Alberta.
Well, so if you marry a Canadian you'll refer to it as ghinch. And if you then talk to Americans or those from the UK, they will also look at you like your nuts.
So and furthermore it I guess related terms are getch gaunch and got cheese.
Hey.
Anyway, you know this is actually an educational podcast. We go under the educational podcast. This is not entertainment, it's not start. We're learning things here.
We're a genre bending podcast where we're not limiting ourselves to one.
Can David's like a legend, and I was like, oh god, if his takeaway is what a horrible cost only talk about underwear, it's really quite.
I wasn't like a Cambridge. I don't need those, you.
Know, filthy Yeah, anyway, but it was apropos to probably a story that Steve was telling.
I don't know, you know, he sounds.
Right, so actually going you're probably right in that, Like I'm remembering it ten years down the line or eleven years down the line, thinking oh, we were all just having the best time, you know, right out the gate. And now that you say that I'm remembering that. I was absolutely terrify the first several I mean, we'll get to this, John when we do, are like those interstitials because I have some stories for you for that, but because that was the very, very very first thing I ever did. It's when I met Vanessa and Freddie. I don't think Taylor and Steve had been cast yet anyway, we'll get to that. But yes, and now I'm like looking back with rose colored glasses, and now that you bring that up, I'm like, oh, yeah, No. I was absolutely shaking in my boots for the first many episodes with like crippling imposters syndrome because I had never done anime, you know, I'd never done voiceover, passed on this and I was like, amongst you know, giants such as Vanessa Marshall and Steve Bloon, you know, and I'm like, I hope, to goodness, gracious, no one realizes that I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
Thank you to you for sharing that too. And I would have never known you hadn't done voiceover, just because I was just fully invested when I remember watching like I have a very I think y'all know I have a very elephant brain. My memory is kind of crazy. I'm very like Mike Ross on suits. It's like not that extreme, but Mike, Mike Ross is going to win that battle. But I'm right there. You bring up an interesting point with the script thing that I want to throw to you because now looking at your script and I would imagine the copious notes or just things you want to do, did you find that was transferable over when you were going back to on camera stuff? And I'm just curious about that, Like what things like help the other Like did voiceover complement you're on camera? Did on camera.
Helped my on camera? I look at it's all just like the who you are as an actor. It is helped immensely because, like I was always saying, I thought it was so much harder being in the booth because like all of your training is sort of on stage and using your body, and you have the fact that these that you can just with a look tell an entire page of text.
And I was like, oh wow, I have to.
I would listen back to some of it and be like, I don't think it's coming across as strong as I think, because I'm inhabiting with my whole body, whereas it's just going to be heard with my voice. And I feel like it enhanced that so so much that everything I've done since then, I feel like, now I have this much stronger weapon in my arsenal of my voice and how I can use it. But I found it so much more difficult, And I think I admire people who've really mastered their voice in a way that they're telling stories with now. I'll listen to an audiobook and I'm like, oh God, this person is an incredible story. So they're just using their voice. So I think it's a really good point in question. I'm curious, like Vanessa, what you think with yeah, how oh?
I also like to take a script and I read it through once. Then i'll read it again on the treadmill or something at the gym, where I like to get it in my body as well. It's interesting to me that that's part of your process. I remember when I was in drama school, and you know, we would have to memorize Chekov, Shakespeare or whatever. I would go on runs with it. I would take myself saying it, and I would, you know, whatever the monologues were, I would run and listen to them. And then it just organically would come out of me and I would forget all the prep work. And I think that's also why I think I mentioned before that for the first shorts, I never got the script and was reading it live and I literally called my agent after. I was like, well, I'm most likely going to get fired because I have no idea what I just did. Because of my process is so I don't know. Maybe I'm type A as well, but I love to sort of dive into it in that way. But I will say I have so much respect for your ability to be on camera. They're in drama school. When I would do mask work Committee de l'arte mask work, I felt so free being invisible, and I could do things with my body that even the teacher was like, the hell are you doing like Martha Graham styles, like crushing it, like my teachers like where have you been? But it was because I had the mask on, it gave me permission to fully embody. And that's how I feel with voiceover, and it is my preference. And when I go back to doing on camera things, I'm like, how the hell are on camera people?
So still?
It takes so much. I understand people think oh, on camera actors are so grandiose, like look at me, but no, you're actually you have a level of grace and humility to be vulnerable enough to allow yourself to be seen that I you know, I sometimes I wonder like, what does this even look like? You guys have a sense of not only living from the inside out, but also what how that's you know, which how you want to be captured? Like Tia, for example, when we're on red carpets, Yo, her red carpet game is impectable, and I'm like a sprinkler system, Like I just don't like.
Social.
That's going to be a social She's like she knows exactly which side looks incredible and so on and so forth. And I literally am like, I have no clue what I look like right now. I don't know what I'm doing, but that level of attention to a willingness to be seen. I prefer invisibility, so I feel freedom when no one can see me. But that, you know, we can talk about that in therapy later. But I have so much more respect for on camera actors that use all parts of themselves and are willing to take that risk.
To be seen in that manner.
It's really lovely to watch on camera performance and I appreciate that you guys are also doing that.
So thank you.
Well, if I may, I just want to say that I have like, uh, maybe five hundred photos in my phone right now of Vanessa Marshall brushing it on red carpets and various study the best, so I you know, we can roll that tape as.
Well, but that's also going to be a social clip, roll that beautiful being.
But thank you, but thank you for that. I'm not is it all? If I could blush, I'd be blushing.
I loved when we had on camera and we'll talk about them as as they appear, but like, uh, you know, we've had some serious celebrities come in and join. Was it Brett Speiner who came in and was telling stories about his experience on set and we were like, you're on camera because they had cameras like they were recording all us. He was telling some some insane stories and we were like, this is being recorded, and he did not care.
I love that. I love that data gave no FS when he was and that's it. Yeah, he was hilarious.
And my jobby head was Jimmy Smith's in this episode or no.
Okay, so we can get there. YEAHL voice that, so let's get there because we because they were.
Showing my friends and they were like, how sick is it? It is Jimmy Smiths though like his on camera? Oh yeah, And I was like, it's so sick. Can you imagine?
I want to see like a John Brody animated and rebels would be incredible me too.
I mean, yeah, Phil, Phil Lamar, he was.
He plays Oran Freeta in and Kit Fisto in Clone Wars. Sorry deep dive guys, give me one second. And originally Harrah's father was going to be Oran Freeta, who is the big blue tweet you know. I don't know if you remember him from of course movies. But then they made Chom Sindula her father obviously, and that's, you know, another story. But Harro was meant to rebel against Orn free Ta and I remember telling Phil like, oh dude, you get to play my dad, blah blah blah. And obviously they went a different direction. But I'm grateful that he was able to show up as Bail Organa, which he also did in the Clone Wars.
That's a heavy hitter. Too, and especially in the voice over wall Phil Lamar. I mean we're talking like Futurama. There's so many credit.
Phil would come on here Justice, Yeah, yes, you have some young Justice people on.
Here to ye, that's right fiction.
Yeah, just uh Phil Lamar also happens to be just like the loveliest Man.
Yeah, well he'll come on. We'll have him, come on, let's let's invite him on. Let's have him.
You are always invited. And I love that Bail Organa made a appearance here because I did allude to my quick recap. This is how it all ties in because remember Canaan and the Ghost group, they don't know who C three PO and R two D two are like we do. That's the fun thing about this episode, Like we had the information, we're waiting for them to figure out that no, these aren't Imperial Joys, these are the good guys. And then we meet Bail Organa and he quotes he quotes like the Jedi phrase, which kana goes, oh wait, hold on, like there's more rebels out there. And I love that final shot because it's mirroring Leah Organa the first meet her in a New Hope with R two D two. I thought that was just so cool and like, what a great way to bridge that gap between people like myself and everybody here who loves Star Wars but anybody who's never seen Star Wars before. It's just like, I feel like a great starter kit to get into the world.
You know, Yeah, it's this episode especially for that, because I feel like in the ten years since I'm sure you guys have heard this too, that like a lot of people that I've gotten to meet at you know, out in the real world have told me that Rebels was their introduction to Star Wars or like, oh, this is how I got you know, I like bonded with my daughter and my son, like this was their first Star Wars or intro to Star Wars, and this is how we you know, we watched it as family, which is so wonderful to hear. But I feel like this episode was like the beginning of that, like nudge, nudge, wink wink to all to all of those folks who you know already knew and loved Star Wars and that like, Okay, no, this is a show for you. But also you don't need to know those things you don't need to have of that like extra you know, info to be able to like get into this world and like meet these characters and go on the journey with them.
Yeah, which is how it should be. And let's we brought up David. Let's talk about Callus really quick, because David's a recurring guest star and there's that that arc between especially the thing between him and Zeb, is so incredible and it's one of the greatest arcs that I've ever seen in television honestly in terms of character work. And one, let's talk about his look. We talked about is like face. He's got like the wolverine facial hair, but he also has like a magneto helmet.
It looks like g I Joe with Wolverine, and like, I love it.
I love it.
It's so strong and what a great reveal of what his ties are to the Lisa because when Zeb sees his bow rifle, he's like wait a minute, He's like, that's right, because I'm not gonna do initial statements, so I'm not going to attempt that. I just you're planning so many seeds, but like we talked about in the last two episodes, it's never like overwhelming. You're getting a lot of information, Like it's almost like you're leaning in, which I always say that storytelling one on one. I think a lot of movies and TV shows they try to give you too much in your leaning back, like who whoa WHOA hold on, I don't even know and I have ADHD, so I'm like, that's too much stimuli for me. Stop. But this one, even with my ADHD, I'm like, I'm leaning away, hold on and I know this world. But at the same time, like, wait, he kilt a lassat Honor Guard to get the bull rifle. What's going on here? But it's the correct balance, like Goldilocks and Three Bears. It was like just right, it wasn't too much, wasn't too little, and the balance like Miagi do Karate. There's my other Karate kid reference. It's very evident with this episode.
And also not that you you might have you might be planning to bring us up John, but shout out to Steve Bloom Yes, yes, just like yeah, that guy, I love him dearly. But also I just think like that just gives you like a little a little taste of what's to come, and just like that peek into his vulnerability and man, that guy. There is nothing that man can't do. I am sure of it.
Yeah, and then that's why I love that callous as like the Wolverine facial here, because as you know, Steve was the voice of Wolverine. That's right, circle, It would be great he was here to talk about this episode. But I think, yeah, now that the listeners are hearing our recaps and insights, having Steve come on after that, I think would be a really cool thing.
So Steve, Yeah, we'll get him for the next the next round here.
I I also love it.
I just want to say that I feel like we when I was rewatching this and I see Ezra sort of play around with Sabine, you.
Know, hey, how you doing over?
And You're like, I literally rather die like the two just seeing that. And then you know, and I'm maybe because I watched the episodes back to back, forgive me if I'm blurring into the next one, but you know, when he says, when's my Jedi training? Or you know, he gets punched by Canaan and Hanah just mom was like, yeah, we'll see about that, like she's going to fix that. I love how they take care of each other. I love how they go to each other and that their connections are earned, right, Like Ezra and Zeb, you know, they they fight, but Haarah has the insight to sort of put them together and make them work it out, and so that I feel like we watch them earn each other's respect and affection and they organically we become more and more invested in them as they let each other in a bit more and are more vulnerable with each other with a common enemy, with you know, the potential loss, like with Zeb's character being sort of in harm's way eventually with Callous. I don't know, it just it's so it's so lovely to see that. And remember, I know we were a little bit more cautious or sort of we needed to get to know each other obviously, But I think what great casting that they just knew that we would kind of fall together as this little motley crew that I just I was dying laughing, like Ezra when you're fighting it out with Chopper, like get off me, you know, And obviously Chopper is not in the room with us, But I felt that I loved Chopper's personality and the way we all sort of manipulated that situation with the Imperials obviously you translating aqualish and sending them to.
The wrong Bay area or whatever. I don't know.
I just was like, I just love this group of characters so much. I fell in love with them again rewatching, and I want to.
Start a tally of how many languages Sabine is going to be speaking. I think we're up to three now because there was Wookie and yeah, Suger rebellion. We have aqualish and she was doing ASTRONMCT. She was translating what Art two was seeing. So we're gonna j C. Jacy and I talked about this yesterday. We're going to start keeping some tallies and we'll total them up at the end of each season and see what we're looking at. I think we go to hyper space three times this episode. I was like, just for fun counting, it's like, how many times does the ghost like punch it to hyperspace? Because y'all are on the run quite a bit in this series, so that'd be a fun little tally we can have. And we the first time we see ATSDS, I know they call them ad ads for the Big Walkers. I don't know if it's do we see ATSC or ATS I want to pronounce it wrong, but I'm calling ATSD. But I thought that was a cool sequence as well, when we got to see some Imperial Walkers, because for some people that's the first time they're going to see those walkers on the ground.
I think it's twee like Twilight. It depends on where you're from. Both are correct or all it? Yeah, you're fine? Okay, good, And that's what I seem to recall when I asked that of Dave as well.
I love it, love it, and I'll we get our first mention of Governor Price in this episode. It's really quick. Yes, Governor Price comes into play later when the someone tells Callous that there's a call intercepted. But we will make Governor Price later. Who has you know? The voice of Governor Price, of course, has many many times to this cast. We'll get there, Yes, indeed, we'll get there. And Steve Bloom a little bit, a little bit.
I think they're familiar with each other.
Yes, yes, I think they're friendly. You know, let's say that. So if there isn't anything else, I think it's almost time for Dare I say one of our if not our favorite, let's go, So JC my man, you got the floor what we got for fact check?
Maybe all right, I got I got a lot of stuff for you guys this week. No, no, no, just just providing some background. I think you guys got everything right. I just wanted to provide some background. One of the things that I loved, and as you guys introduced yourselves at the beginning of the podcast, is Specter. Obviously, Specter is a ghost to the ghost Ship. I think I watched all of season one without putting that together. So I'm just going to put that on front Street right now. Maybe I'm the only person on Earth who didn't pick that up until episode ten, but.
I'm sure you're not, Jason.
This is also the first canon appearance of the RX twenty four droid, which we know from Star Tours and that you know he has appeared in a book of Boba Fat and a bunch of other media since. But I believe this is the first canon appearance of that droid, which is kind of cool. One of the things I love watching, especially the Star Wars Animated, is that I site read the arabsh language, so anytime it pops up on screen, I like to read, like the Little Easter eggs that whoever's putting in not that exciting. But in this episode, there in Bay two C is written on the docking bay wall and the crate that they're hiding behind says Storage Rental on it.
You just can read that.
Yeah, wow, this at NYU.
I missed out on that. They've clearly like that.
What you mean? I'm so nerdy that I taught myself. I bought a monopoly game that had like a cipher on it that like corresponded to the letters. I think it was from the old West End Games book. And in high school I took all of my class notes in Arabesh. So even though it's been twenty six years, I plus twenty six plus years, I still remember it. I can still see it.
Jesse, your brain is a expressive No, you should be like a codebreaker.
Yeah, you could be.
I thanks.
So.
I wanted to point out Visago rides in a V thirty five Courier land Speeder, which is the same land Speeder that Luke's aunt and uncle have on tattooing.
Too soon, So it's always too soon.
The other things from the podcast today, John pointed out the Aqualish language is similar to Rodian and hatise and he is correct. That's right. And I actually I will show this. We can drop this in show notes on social media and stuff, but I wanted to show you, guys. I wanted to show you guys. So this is the map of the Star Wars galacy h of the Star Wars Galaxy. And then if we zoom in on it here you can see the circles. The top circle is circled around now Huddah, which is the home world of the Huts. And then we have and is kind of the middle circle there, and then Rodia and O is aqualish uh, and then Rodia is the uh the bottom circle there, so they're all in about the same point.
Of For those who can't see, we're looking at basically Miami Tallahassee.
And yeah, so bush Guard is Disney World and uh.
And j C's mohawk is really giving you the worst to live. I wish you could see it. We're gonna have to put that in bonus content, y'all, because that could heal all all of humanity.
We're gonna all have trading cards and for sure we're gonna be pasturing JC and is awesome like Warhawk Mohawk it's it's in your hair last episodes too, like, so it's like that's gonna be a recurring thing. Jason past j R two D two and C three PO.
John, you mentioned that they're the only characters to appear across all nine Skywalker Saga films. They're also in Rogue one. That is correct. We talked about the age of R two D two and C three PO, and there's a little bit of I always like to refer back to Star Wars Legends as well, because there's so many people who loved that. According to Star Wars Legends, C three PO was built one hundred and twelve years before the Battle of Yaven. But as we found out in episode you Know one, Episode two, Episode three, Anakin bought built C three so he is about, you know, thirty two years before the Battle of Yavin thirty two to thirty four. It's ambiguous when Anakin actually brought him to life. We also talked about droids being rebuilt and destroyed. Of course, we know C three PO was destroyed on Cloud City and rebuilt by Chewbacca, so yeah, that does happen. R two D two was thirty two years before the Battle of Yavin, so as we see him in this episode, I think he's around twenty eight ish years old. He apparently was destroyed in his twelfth year of being a droid and was rebuilt on the planet Carrida, which was an Imperial stronghold planet. And another little tidbit, R two D two continues to get passed down throughout the Skywalker family. In the future books and comic books, Cade Skywalker, which's one hundred and thirty seven years after the Battle of Yavin, still has R two D two and he's still going strong.
And he looks great.
That's amazing.
And then we last thing, was you guys mentioned ad at or at a t at st I know this is a really fun debate amongst Star Wars fans. I am firmly in the at At camp because I believe the first time that that was ever mentioned was in a toy commercial in the nineteen eighties for Kenner Toys, and the kids in the toy commercial call it ad At, not at a t see.
I couldn't back it up, but I'm with you, so.
I don't add at us. I guess at.
Luckily we keep this for the end so people stick around.
So that's all we got for fact check. You guys, you guys nailed it this week.
Yes, all right, well that wraps up this one. Thank you again JC for we love this fact check so much, and thank you the Vanessa Tea and Taylor for sharing stories because I love getting insight. I know what listeners do too, And speaking of our listeners, thank you for listening. Remember the rate us and leave a five star review, leave a nice comment, and follow us at Potter Rebellion on Instagram. We're going to post a lot of the bonus content we're talking about, like the social clips and Vanessa and Tia killing it on the red carpet like stuff like that. So if you want to catch to that, you go to Potter Rebellion and you can also write to us at Potter Rebellion podcast at gmail dot com because we would love to hear from you anything else. I think this is when we push off.
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