Samara chats with the UK author, comedian, and pod icon who says “be your own version of what you think an adult should look like and sound like, and only you get to decide what that is.”

They talk the Buddhism of speaking in public, surprising lessons everyone can take from standup and improv, and tips for owning all the rooms, which, spoiler: is about the sizzle, not the composition of the sausage. 

Follow Viv: @vivgroskop, vivgroskop.com/

Her latest books:

penguin.co.uk/books/111/1117056/how-to-own-the-room/9781787631120.html

penguin.co.uk/books/1118966/lift-as-you-climb/9781787633049.html

abramsandchronicle.co.uk/book/9781419742989-au-revoir-tristesse/

Her masterclass on How to Cope with Uncertainty at Work:

youtube.com/watch?v=Og7ZAdenTaI

Follow Jameela Jamil: @jameelajamilofficial

Mary Portas’ book, Work like a Woman: penguin.co.uk/books/111/1115457/work-like-a-woman/9781784163624.html

Mary Beard’s book, Women & Power: wwnorton.com/books/9781631494758

Tig Notaro’s standup: 

youtube.com/watch?v=LSo380S8Dng

youtube.com/watch?v=V97lvUKYisA&t=102s

More on honoring native lands: usdac.us/nativeland

****What’s going on with your voice these days? Send Samara a question for our next mailbag episode at PermissiontoSpeakPod.com or on Instagram @permissiontospeakpod****

And of course, please leave us a review and rate us on Apple Podcasts or the iHeartRadio app, and subscribe for your weekly dose of Permission to Speak :)