When Pestle & Mortar first started, it was a traditional brick and mortar business, focused simply on building a brand. Today, it is about keeping the hype up and customers wanting more. We meet with Co-Founder Hugh Koh, who talks us through some of the ups and downs of the last decade - and how the P&M brand has pivoted to stay relevant. 



Check out the entire Wisdom From The One-Ders series below:



- Roshan Thiran, Leaderonomics

- Bryan Loo, Loob Holdings

- Joel Neoh, Fave

When Pestle &amp; Mortar first started, it was a traditional brick and mortar business, focused simply on building a brand. Today, it is about keeping the hype up and customers wanting more. We meet with Co-Founder Hugh Koh, who talks us through some of the ups and downs of the last decade - and how the P&amp;M brand has pivoted to stay relevant.&nbsp;

Check out the entire Wisdom From The One-Ders series below:

- <a href="https://www.bfm.my/podcast/enterprise/open-for-business/ent-ofb-wisdom-from-the-one-ders-roshan-thiran" target="_blank">Roshan Thiran, Leaderonomics</a>
- <a href="https://www.bfm.my/podcast/enterprise/open-for-business/ent-ofb-wisdom-from-the-oneders-bryan-loo" target="_blank">Bryan Loo, Loob Holdings</a>
- <a href="https://www.bfm.my/podcast/enterprise/open-for-business/ent-ofb-wisdom-from-the-one-ders-joel-neoh" target="_blank">Joel Neoh, Fave</a>

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Wisdom From The One-Ders: Hugh Koh

Debbie Soh started her career as a home tutor before pivoting to an online model during the pandemic. By leveraging free, short-form math content on social media, she built a massive organic funnel that has propelled her bootstrapped company, Debbie Soh Education, into the seven-figure revenue range. Today, she’s expanding her revenue streams into e-commerce, publishing, and branded content.



Debbie joins us to talk about the unfiltered reality of scaling an education business. We discuss the profit margins of digital tuition, the challenge of building a team that can keep up with a founder-led brand, and the hidden burnout that comes with trying to balance purpose with profitability.

Debbie Soh started her career as a home tutor before pivoting to an online model during the pandemic. By leveraging free, short-form math content on social media, she built a massive organic funnel that has propelled her bootstrapped company, Debbie Soh Education, into the seven-figure revenue range. Today, she’s expanding her revenue streams into e-commerce, publishing, and branded content.Debbie joins us to talk about the unfiltered reality of scaling an education business. We discuss the profit margins of digital tuition, the challenge of building a team that can keep up with a founder-led brand, and the hidden burnout that comes with trying to balance purpose with profitability.

How a TikTok Math Tutor Built a Seven Figure Business

Adrian Goh has been in the pet care game since 2004, eventually launching Wet Nose in 2011 to create a completely bootstrapped, neighborhood pet hub. 



Currently generating up to RM800,000 in annual revenue, the business relies on localized word-of-mouth customer acquisition and specialized pet care knowledge to retain its client base against the heavy discounts of online competitors.



Adrian joins us to discuss the financial realities of running a service-based retail shop. We explore the unit economics of pet grooming versus product sales, the occupational hazards and liability of handling aggressive pets, and the strategic pivot toward opening a daycare facility to stabilize post-pandemic cash flow.



Image Credit: Shutterstock

Adrian Goh has been in the pet care game since 2004, eventually launching Wet Nose in 2011 to create a completely bootstrapped, neighborhood pet hub.&nbsp;Currently generating up to RM800,000 in annual revenue, the business relies on localized word-of-mouth customer acquisition and specialized pet care knowledge to retain its client base against the heavy discounts of online competitors.Adrian joins us to discuss the financial realities of running a service-based retail shop. We explore the unit economics of pet grooming versus product sales, the occupational hazards and liability of handling aggressive pets, and the strategic pivot toward opening a daycare facility to stabilize post-pandemic cash flow.Image Credit: Shutterstock

Why Good Pet Groomers Are Harder to Find Than Customers

Virunthu at KL Town is currently recognised as Malaysia’s largest Indian food court, operating a vibrant, community-driven dining ecosystem. The platform was created to solve the high barrier to entry for small F&B entrepreneurs by removing the burden of standalone restaurant costs. Hosting over 17 diverse local and international food vendors under one roof, Virunthu combines authentic dining with live entertainment and cultural experiences.



The business generates revenue through a mix of fixed stall rentals, revenue-sharing agreements, and in-house beverage sales, recently scaling into the mid-to-high six-figure revenue range.



Founder Gopal Rajandren joins us to discuss the financial mechanics of running a multi-vendor hospitality hub. We also explore the unit economics of revenue-sharing versus fixed rental, the operational challenge of maintaining strict quality control across 17 independent chefs, and the strategy to scale this cultural dining destination into a nationwide brand.

Virunthu at KL Town is currently recognised as Malaysia’s largest Indian food court, operating a vibrant, community-driven dining ecosystem. The platform was created to solve the high barrier to entry for small F&amp;B entrepreneurs by removing the burden of standalone restaurant costs. Hosting over 17 diverse local and international food vendors under one roof, Virunthu combines authentic dining with live entertainment and cultural experiences.The business generates revenue through a mix of fixed stall rentals, revenue-sharing agreements, and in-house beverage sales, recently scaling into the mid-to-high six-figure revenue range.Founder Gopal Rajandren joins us to discuss the financial mechanics of running a multi-vendor hospitality hub. We also explore the unit economics of revenue-sharing versus fixed rental, the operational challenge of maintaining strict quality control across 17 independent chefs, and the strategy to scale this cultural dining destination into a nationwide brand.

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