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Used Talk said, be you Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being the Weekend edition, first of yesterday's News. I am Glen Hart, and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday because those are the most weekend the sort of days there are.

Used Talk said, be you Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being the Weekend edition, first of yesterday's News. I am Glen Hart, and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday because those are the most weekend the sort of days there are.

Do we care about the America's Cup? Are we going to care about the America's Cup? Interesting questions?

Do we care about the America's Cup? Are we going to care about the America's Cup? Interesting questions?

Who will be on the All Blacks End of Year Tour? Rina Owen goes back to her roots and some personal, really personal feelings about the Chagos silence, which England have given up apparently last week.

Who will be on the All Blacks End of Year Tour? Rina Owen goes back to her roots and some personal, really personal feelings about the Chagos silence, which England have given up apparently last week.

Did you notice that?

Did you notice that?

But yeah, and we've got a navy ship that burnt up and sank.

But yeah, and we've got a navy ship that burnt up and sank.

Is it really ours though? What was it doing there?

Is it really ours though? What was it doing there?

It was doing survey work for that reef. So, as you will be aware, some more like many other Pacific nations, has been subject to tsunami and earthquakes and all sorts of other things, and those reefs that resk was last surveyed in nineteen eighty seven. So therefore, what there is, it's very little information it's put it's not safe at the moment, and so that's what it was doing, was trying to surveying that reef as in doing other places as well.

It was doing survey work for that reef. So, as you will be aware, some more like many other Pacific nations, has been subject to tsunami and earthquakes and all sorts of other things, and those reefs that resk was last surveyed in nineteen eighty seven. So therefore, what there is, it's very little information it's put it's not safe at the moment, and so that's what it was doing, was trying to surveying that reef as in doing other places as well.

Is that what Manawanoui's principal purposes.

Is that what Manawanoui's principal purposes.

It's also been involved with helping to deal with ammunitions, you know, World War two ammunitions, diving all those sorts of things that you need around the Pacific. I mean, we've still got a lot of that stuff in the Pacific, and so it's been working on that recently. I think the last place it was somewhere was Vanuatu dealing with those sorts of issues. So it's not a warship. It was then not as a warship. It was a it was an all tender for Norway and it was fifteen years old when the Government of the day brought it about five years ago. But it's not worship but it is you know, it's painted gray and it's pretty much it.

It's also been involved with helping to deal with ammunitions, you know, World War two ammunitions, diving all those sorts of things that you need around the Pacific. I mean, we've still got a lot of that stuff in the Pacific, and so it's been working on that recently. I think the last place it was somewhere was Vanuatu dealing with those sorts of issues. So it's not a warship. It was then not as a warship. It was a it was an all tender for Norway and it was fifteen years old when the Government of the day brought it about five years ago. But it's not worship but it is you know, it's painted gray and it's pretty much it.

So if I have a boat and I painted gray, does it become part of the New Zealand Navy's fleet.

So if I have a boat and I painted gray, does it become part of the New Zealand Navy's fleet.

Seems like a low bar. The whole thing's very curious, isn't it. I'm sure we'll hear a littit more about that. As the week progresses, news talk, has it been right?

Seems like a low bar. The whole thing's very curious, isn't it. I'm sure we'll hear a littit more about that. As the week progresses, news talk, has it been right?

Are you absolutely fizzing about the America's can't know me either.

Are you absolutely fizzing about the America's can't know me either.

Next weekend we actually we get to the actual Cup after a long winded regatta which has peaked my interest some weeks, well other weeks it's just completely passed me by. But regardless of what I think about the Cup, where it's held, how it's run, I will be truly invested in Team New Zealand when the Cup kicks off next New Zealand time. There is little in sport more exciting than watching the start of these races. And while a result of races is sometimes decided by who wins the start, we've seen enough to know that anything can happen out on the course. It's been four years of hard work for Team New Zealand. Let's hope it's all been worth it.

Next weekend we actually we get to the actual Cup after a long winded regatta which has peaked my interest some weeks, well other weeks it's just completely passed me by. But regardless of what I think about the Cup, where it's held, how it's run, I will be truly invested in Team New Zealand when the Cup kicks off next New Zealand time. There is little in sport more exciting than watching the start of these races. And while a result of races is sometimes decided by who wins the start, we've seen enough to know that anything can happen out on the course. It's been four years of hard work for Team New Zealand. Let's hope it's all been worth it.

Bring it on the Sunday session.

Bring it on the Sunday session.

So you all.

So you all.

Engaged yet with the America's Cup? With you bit like me? Yousider only really getting on board now that we're at the business end. A lot of keywis have told me they're not interested, but I reckon come this Sunday, we're all going to get on board.

Engaged yet with the America's Cup? With you bit like me? Yousider only really getting on board now that we're at the business end. A lot of keywis have told me they're not interested, but I reckon come this Sunday, we're all going to get on board.

You reckon, She's right about that.

You reckon, She's right about that.

I mean, I'm I'm in no position to judge because I've always hated the America's Cup. I've always considered it to be a thing that sort of retch and tigled people get to do, and it really has no connection to New Zealand And and somehow there was this big sort of marketing thing and they sold us red.

I mean, I'm I'm in no position to judge because I've always hated the America's Cup. I've always considered it to be a thing that sort of retch and tigled people get to do, and it really has no connection to New Zealand And and somehow there was this big sort of marketing thing and they sold us red.

Socks and people seem to get excited about it.

Socks and people seem to get excited about it.

But to win this thing, which traditionally was the Heart had never been one since the first one, and nobody had ever taken it off America, and then you know, the Aussies did, and then we got it off them, and then to just go to give up the right to host it here, I mean, do you not find that as gaoling as I do?

But to win this thing, which traditionally was the Heart had never been one since the first one, and nobody had ever taken it off America, and then you know, the Aussies did, and then we got it off them, and then to just go to give up the right to host it here, I mean, do you not find that as gaoling as I do?

Maybe you don't. Maybe Francesca doesn't.

Maybe you don't. Maybe Francesca doesn't.

I've got more hot sporting takes, And like, I don't ever ever ever want to see TJ Pire and Aara in and all that jersey ever again.

I've got more hot sporting takes, And like, I don't ever ever ever want to see TJ Pire and Aara in and all that jersey ever again.

Do you think TJ. Pettinata will go on this Northern tour?

Do you think TJ. Pettinata will go on this Northern tour?

No? I don't I think that With Royguard coming back, I believe that it's time possibly to take some risks. TJ's been amazing signed with Japan. I put him in the same category as Sam Kane at some stage, I think we've got to give some of these younger guys a bit more of an opportunity, you know. So for me, both Samkin and TJ Perrin are just might miss out and it might be time to move on.

No? I don't I think that With Royguard coming back, I believe that it's time possibly to take some risks. TJ's been amazing signed with Japan. I put him in the same category as Sam Kane at some stage, I think we've got to give some of these younger guys a bit more of an opportunity, you know. So for me, both Samkin and TJ Perrin are just might miss out and it might be time to move on.

So is that that that's your view? What do you think Razor will do? Because if he doesn't take TJ, He's got camera. I guard five test matches, Cortez eight test matches. No, I hope in one game off the bench. Does he leave himself a little bit light at halfback?

So is that that that's your view? What do you think Razor will do? Because if he doesn't take TJ, He's got camera. I guard five test matches, Cortez eight test matches. No, I hope in one game off the bench. Does he leave himself a little bit light at halfback?

Yeah, totally. I don't think he leaves himself light. He leaves himself light on experience. So you know, I think it's a massive question if he decides to take them. I get that as well, because what he's trying to do is you know that by the end of the seedon, this is an incredibly difficult Northern tour. You know, you start with Japan, which they're not going to take some of the more experienced guys, They're going to send them straight to the UK. Then You've got England, Ireland, France and Italy. So you know, I think I would understand if he took them. But then, so you know, what did you mentioned roy guards?

Yeah, totally. I don't think he leaves himself light. He leaves himself light on experience. So you know, I think it's a massive question if he decides to take them. I get that as well, because what he's trying to do is you know that by the end of the seedon, this is an incredibly difficult Northern tour. You know, you start with Japan, which they're not going to take some of the more experienced guys, They're going to send them straight to the UK. Then You've got England, Ireland, France and Italy. So you know, I think I would understand if he took them. But then, so you know, what did you mentioned roy guards?

Five?

Five?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Rather eight?

Rather eight?

Yeah?

Yeah?

No?

No?

One? Yeah?

One? Yeah?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So when they get back from Europe, what do you want their numbers to be? You know, do you want them to have seven? Ten? You know they sort of say that to win World Cups you need to have sort of twenty eight to thirty test matches under your belt to understand what it's all about.

So when they get back from Europe, what do you want their numbers to be? You know, do you want them to have seven? Ten? You know they sort of say that to win World Cups you need to have sort of twenty eight to thirty test matches under your belt to understand what it's all about.

Yeah, I'm so glad, sir John sees it the same way I do. I mean, if you're not going to put new players in the team, now, when are you going to do it?

Yeah, I'm so glad, sir John sees it the same way I do. I mean, if you're not going to put new players in the team, now, when are you going to do it?

And I don't know that I really have anything against Japier and Arra as a person. It's just as playing days are done.

And I don't know that I really have anything against Japier and Arra as a person. It's just as playing days are done.

He spends more time complaining to the rest than he does passing the ball these days, just like Dasin Marshall we used to when they still keept putting him in the team when he was passes from Okay, so you know, Iwan perhaps best known for her role than once We're Worries, but of course has had plenty of roles in twenty of other things is talking about.

He spends more time complaining to the rest than he does passing the ball these days, just like Dasin Marshall we used to when they still keept putting him in the team when he was passes from Okay, so you know, Iwan perhaps best known for her role than once We're Worries, but of course has had plenty of roles in twenty of other things is talking about.

Was talking about the with Jack on.

Was talking about the with Jack on.

Saturday, the theater where she really all got started for it.

Saturday, the theater where she really all got started for it.

For all of our listeners who might not have heard of it before or maybe recognize the name, tell us a little bit about Tucky.

For all of our listeners who might not have heard of it before or maybe recognize the name, tell us a little bit about Tucky.

Door Tucky Doer Theater was in its prime heyday, was in Wellington and it's where, for those who may not know, I did a film call once We're Warriors thirty years ago and this theater space, which was first called Depot Theater, provided us with a space where that nurtured Maldi talent, writers, actors. I first got involved when I was invited down by Jim Moriarty to do the first ever theatm at I season, which was in nineteen ninety. We were going through one hundred and fifty year celebration of teddyt Or White Tonguey So and it was Maldi doing everything acting, writing, producing, directing, drama. And I thought, oh, I've got to come and live in Wellington because this is where theater is and as an actor you've got to learn your craft. And so this space was there during that time of pivotal changes which we had a wonderful fabric of comatur who were mostly women, so I called them the founding mothers. Kiddy Cartunia Baker, Sunny Amy Roner, all of these women who literally most creative artists have a space for humanity rather than politics. So they're not afraid, they're not thinking about political things. They're thinking, hey, we need to this is a season where we need to start creating and dedicating the space to the Maldi voice, to Maldi Store. And the following year, nineteen ninety one is when they did the renaming ceremony of changing the depot is what it was called to Takidua, the weaving of two. That same year, play Market published a book Here to her Hoe, which is five plays by Maldi playwrights. So a lot of us came out of that stable, a lot of us learned our craft there.

Door Tucky Doer Theater was in its prime heyday, was in Wellington and it's where, for those who may not know, I did a film call once We're Warriors thirty years ago and this theater space, which was first called Depot Theater, provided us with a space where that nurtured Maldi talent, writers, actors. I first got involved when I was invited down by Jim Moriarty to do the first ever theatm at I season, which was in nineteen ninety. We were going through one hundred and fifty year celebration of teddyt Or White Tonguey So and it was Maldi doing everything acting, writing, producing, directing, drama. And I thought, oh, I've got to come and live in Wellington because this is where theater is and as an actor you've got to learn your craft. And so this space was there during that time of pivotal changes which we had a wonderful fabric of comatur who were mostly women, so I called them the founding mothers. Kiddy Cartunia Baker, Sunny Amy Roner, all of these women who literally most creative artists have a space for humanity rather than politics. So they're not afraid, they're not thinking about political things. They're thinking, hey, we need to this is a season where we need to start creating and dedicating the space to the Maldi voice, to Maldi Store. And the following year, nineteen ninety one is when they did the renaming ceremony of changing the depot is what it was called to Takidua, the weaving of two. That same year, play Market published a book Here to her Hoe, which is five plays by Maldi playwrights. So a lot of us came out of that stable, a lot of us learned our craft there.

And she's got great voices, and she that's a cool voice. That a natural thing.

And she's got great voices, and she that's a cool voice. That a natural thing.

Is that a thing that happens from you know, years of experience and acting or is it just a thing that happens from years of smoking at some stage or another, or a combination of all those things.

Is that a thing that happens from you know, years of experience and acting or is it just a thing that happens from years of smoking at some stage or another, or a combination of all those things.

News talk has been we're going to.

News talk has been we're going to.

Finish up here talking about the Chagos Islands, which perhaps most people had never heard of until last week when England gave them back.

Finish up here talking about the Chagos Islands, which perhaps most people had never heard of until last week when England gave them back.

It's good of them in.

It's good of them in.

The middle of nowhere, apparently, And then and then Jack's always wanted to go to one of them, or has always been obsessed with one, in particular Diego Garcia.

The middle of nowhere, apparently, And then and then Jack's always wanted to go to one of them, or has always been obsessed with one, in particular Diego Garcia.

Who knew that Jack knew so much about the Jago Silence.

Who knew that Jack knew so much about the Jago Silence.

My dad first told me about d G. Diego Garcia when I was a kid. So imagine a point, a little atoll in the middle of the Indian Ocean, below India and about halfway between Tanzania and Bali. For decades, Diego Garcia has been home to one of the most mysterious and secretive military bases on the planet. Its strategic location, it's military runway, its fleet of long range bombers, and its ability to reload submarines with weapons make it hugely important to the US and the UK. But of course that base only came about via a brutal history. Although Diego Garcia had no indigenous population, enslaved people were brought there to work on the atoll on coconut plantations, and over several centuries developed their own language and culture. In the nineteen sixties, the Brits decided to kick them out in order to develop the military base. They forcibly evicted all of the local population to Mauritius and the Seychelles. For decades since, Mauritius has fought for the island and its surrounding islands, the surrounding archipelago. Chagosians, as people from the Chagos Islands are known, have fought to return to their home, but I've always assumed that I would never be able to go. The island is rumored to be a CIA black site, and according to a recent BBC report, only three journalists have ever visited. One pretended to have a boat problem and was only there for an hour and a half, another stopped to refuel while traveling in a presidential plane, and the most recent visitor had to agree to incredible restrictions on her reporting and was barred from numerous areas and accompanied by minders at all times. But yesterday came news from Diego Garcia. After years of terse negotiations and an ongoing legal dispute regarding a group of Tamil asylum seekers being detained on the island, the UK and Mauritius announced that sovereignty of Diego Garcia and the other Chagos Islands is going to be passed to Mauritius. So will it mean the Chagosians as people from the Chagos Islands are known, will it mean they can return home? Probably not. Under the deal, the long range bombers, the submarines, the base will remain for at least the next century. Its official status might have changed, but for those of us who trace the atoll across the world on our office wall, Diego Garcia will be no more accessible and no less mysterious.

My dad first told me about d G. Diego Garcia when I was a kid. So imagine a point, a little atoll in the middle of the Indian Ocean, below India and about halfway between Tanzania and Bali. For decades, Diego Garcia has been home to one of the most mysterious and secretive military bases on the planet. Its strategic location, it's military runway, its fleet of long range bombers, and its ability to reload submarines with weapons make it hugely important to the US and the UK. But of course that base only came about via a brutal history. Although Diego Garcia had no indigenous population, enslaved people were brought there to work on the atoll on coconut plantations, and over several centuries developed their own language and culture. In the nineteen sixties, the Brits decided to kick them out in order to develop the military base. They forcibly evicted all of the local population to Mauritius and the Seychelles. For decades since, Mauritius has fought for the island and its surrounding islands, the surrounding archipelago. Chagosians, as people from the Chagos Islands are known, have fought to return to their home, but I've always assumed that I would never be able to go. The island is rumored to be a CIA black site, and according to a recent BBC report, only three journalists have ever visited. One pretended to have a boat problem and was only there for an hour and a half, another stopped to refuel while traveling in a presidential plane, and the most recent visitor had to agree to incredible restrictions on her reporting and was barred from numerous areas and accompanied by minders at all times. But yesterday came news from Diego Garcia. After years of terse negotiations and an ongoing legal dispute regarding a group of Tamil asylum seekers being detained on the island, the UK and Mauritius announced that sovereignty of Diego Garcia and the other Chagos Islands is going to be passed to Mauritius. So will it mean the Chagosians as people from the Chagos Islands are known, will it mean they can return home? Probably not. Under the deal, the long range bombers, the submarines, the base will remain for at least the next century. Its official status might have changed, but for those of us who trace the atoll across the world on our office wall, Diego Garcia will be no more accessible and no less mysterious.

There you go.

There you go.

He's spent a lot of time thinking about that. Either nobody else has ever heard of before, isn't he? So it's halfway between Tanzania and Bali?

He's spent a lot of time thinking about that. Either nobody else has ever heard of before, isn't he? So it's halfway between Tanzania and Bali?

Is it what he said?

Is it what he said?

I was in Bali a few months ago on the south coast, and I'd watch these even now and again as sort of a big cargo ship would go out and I'd think into the Indian Ocean and I think, where is that going? I don't know anything about this place. Really, I'm sitting there having my happy hour cocktail. Maybe it was going off to the Diego Garcia.

I was in Bali a few months ago on the south coast, and I'd watch these even now and again as sort of a big cargo ship would go out and I'd think into the Indian Ocean and I think, where is that going? I don't know anything about this place. Really, I'm sitting there having my happy hour cocktail. Maybe it was going off to the Diego Garcia.

You never know.

You never know.

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