NEWSTALK ZBEEN: Remembering Grizz

Published Mar 23, 2025, 3:54 PM

FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) From Player to Coach/How Winston Sees It/Luxon Peddling Hard/The Man Who Made Me Fall Off My Chair/Lucy Drops Herself In It

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Hello, my little beanies, and welcome to the Bean of the Weekend edition. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, which are the most common days for weekends to happen. On Wood Saint Peter's has a State of the Nation. Lots of people have States of the Nation, don't they. That's funny how they don't always match up anyway. How does Jack Taying recon Luxeon went in India? Or with India? Ben Elton pops into the studio for a chat, and Lucy Lawless is giving directing a go. But before any of that, yes, grizz Wiley passed away. He was great. Exactly how great was he? Let's find out from one of the greatest rugby commentators there ever, was John macbeth.

What do you remember about Gris Wiley as a player.

As a player, I always thought to myself, I'm pleased I'm not playing against them. You know, he was so hard and there were so many stories about him. Jason about the fact that he was physical, he didn't take a backward step. There's many an inside back in New Zealand who were playing their early games and representative player and they came up against Alex Whyley Alec Whyley and they just knew that. They come off remembering that for all the wrong reasons. He was a tough player. He was really rugged of that Canterbury mold. He played in the Canterbury teams which were renowned for being hard forward players. The back's got the ball occasionally. So it always surprised many people when he became a coach that he encouraged and developed such wonderful backplay within the Canterbury team.

When he was a player and then went on to become a coach. You talked about his coaching philosoph John, but but when he became a coach, was did that seem to you like a like a natural progression. Did he always seem like he would go into coaching.

I was.

I was always surprised about that, because you know, he was busy man on the farm and things, and they'd played two hundred plus games for Canterbury. He'd spent so much time with rugby and he took a bit of time out, but then he immediately got that well. I soon got back into his Glenmark club and and and then his immediate success I think just inspired him to go a bit further.

I always remember that ad where they showed his different emotional reactions to things, and it was obviously just the same quaint base because he wasn't really known for expressing himself outwardly. That was a great dead d I can't remember what it was for, but it was a great ad news talk has it been right? Much doubt about how Winston Peters is feeling about things? So he certainly made his feelings really clear out with his State of the Nations speak. And there were protesters there apparently certainly some people don't like the way he states the nation.

You love a good protest?

What was that?

What?

What was that like?

Look?

What matter?

It was that we packed the place so d and some couldn't get in, and then there were some protesses outside, but we fully expected that and we made sure that they weren't going to win in terms of a democratically lawful meeting.

Is there a part of you that, just as a politician, when you see those protests it sort of gives you a bit of a launching pad something to push back on to get cracking with his speech. You sort of is there a part of you that's sort of like, oh good, let's get into these guys no more.

You know what I mean? Oh, you're quite right. I mean I say, it's like Elvis the staying the trouble. You've come to the right place.

What do you want people to take from your speech? You did you into It was a lengthy speech, covering a lot of ground. I noticed that the first thing was you really wanted to put labor in their places to maybe do you feel some frustration that they are doing so well on the polls despite, as you would say, being the author of our misfortunes.

Well, the reality is that getting away with a lie. For example, in the months before the Phy three election, they put out a forecast back by a treasury that was a litany of lies. And we've proven that, and we've taken all this time to turn the economy from recession into recovery. And that's why we are looking at a gross an hour of almost three percent.

A bit confused when Winston Peter says we are he talking about New Zealand first specifically or the mish Mesh government. A fear of me to call a miss Mesh government. I don't think it.

Is, is it?

And when Laxon gets a good press for his gellings in India last week, which I think is general, what happened there? Do you think when S Peter's has taken credit for that as well?

He was probably only on the ground for forty eight hours. There were breakfasts and dinners, There were official meetings, multiple bilaterals, all across town, twenty or so different leaders to meet. And I remember that when he landed, before he even went to his hotel or had a shower, after seventeen or eighteen hours in the year, Luxon insisted on swinging past the Australian delegation so he could catch up in an impromptu way with Anthony Albanisi. By anyone's measure, it was a grueling schedule, a seriously grueling schedule, no downtime, and Luxon always had to be on. And I asked him, just before he flew home how he was feeling. He must be exhausted. I said, honestly, it was as though the possibility had never even crossed his mind. Huh, he said. No, I love this, he said, and I believed him. Look, there are plenty of levers that governments can pull that impact economic conditions. This government's critics will argue that a part of New Zealand's current economic malaise is as a result of their policies. Nonetheless, at a time when the world's biggest superpower is spraying tariffs all over the show and speedily retreating from its international role, I do think there's value symbolic or otherwise. And a Prime minister overtly hustling for his company.

Yeah, always be hustling. Somebody said that, I think I think somebody said, I'm pretty sure I've can't be the first person because it's said that. I mean, why would I say that that way? I must have heard it somewhere.

Now.

I find this next person very funny, indeed, actually the person after the next person. I mean, I find Trancesca relatively funny, but not as funny as Ben elf.

What is it about stand up that brings you back to it time and time A well?

I think as a writer, I mean, I've made my entire life writing comedy in various genrery and musical sitcoms. The theater plays novels, many novels, sixteen novels. But stand up is the only area of my works as a comic artist. For what it's worth, that's what I am, I guess, which is entirely subjective. It's where I get to tell, you know what the new youth phrases, to stand in your truth. That's what I say, stand in your truth and share what you know, which is I think modern talk for in my opinion. But I'm standing in my truth and that's what I do as a stand up because I think good comedy is about sort of exploring your own bewilderment, your own your own fears, your own delights. And that's what I've been doing for forty five years. But I'm doing it from a perspective of some venerability now. I mean that's in a way why I think stand Up's got more more invigorating for me than it ever was when I was a young man. Because when I was a young comic, as with all young people, I'm very sure of myself. And you know what I thought, I laid down the law. Young people, that's their job, it's their job to be the change to be vigorously forthright about everything they feel and believe. And I was, and I used that as part of my comedy. And now forty five years later, I'm sort of two generations since I was personally the change, and you know, my bewilderment has been growing ever since. And so that's what I lean into these days, my ongoing bewilderment, and it makes for great stand up. And yeah, I've just found I'm more committed to the art of stand up comedy than I ever was, even when I was in my kind of vaguely hip pomp back in the eighties.

I I don't think it was quite a bit long ago that I saw being out from doing sixteen up, but it was a long time ago, but I remember it quite clearly because I literally fell off my cheer because I was laughing at him so hard.

He's pretty big news talks.

It been.

Yeah, somebody asked, who's pretty clever as Lucy Laws and talk about creating a reality reality distortion field, And somebody rings her up, asks her if she wants to get involved with a movie, and she goes, yeah, let's do it. And then he has to figure out how to do it. After that it tends auctually been off a little bit more than she could do. It turns out she could actually chew it and direct it.

Who is Margaret Moth?

Margaret Moth was a kick ass woman from New Zealand who ran off and became a CNN camera person at the at the start of twenty four to seven News and found her place.

In the world.

Unfortunately, the world that she chose meant that she was on the receiving end of a sniper's bullet in Sarayeva and got her face blown off and then things get really crazy. So she did not die.

No, she didn't die. And I mean she is I mean she's someone and I can say that's working in the news business, you know, like she is a legend of an absolute bona fide, top of the pyramid legend in New Zealand news. But obviously you have worked over the years in different parts of television. So how did you come across her story?

Well? I was approached by her best friend, Joe Duran, who's in the film, and he said, hey, do you want to make a film about my friend Margaret Moth? And I was so swept up in this crazy sensation of this woman who many years before, in nineteen ninety two, when she was shot by that bullet in Sarajeva. The news report was so captivating that everything that I know about Margaret Moth had to have happened in that report in that week when they were, you know, not sure whether she was going to survive or not. I hadn't thought about her since, But in that moment that I received the email, I wrote back immediately, I mean, within ninety seconds, making all these crazy promises which I had no business doing. So I will find the money, I will find the producers. The story has to be told. And I didn't realize that what I was now participating in was actually bringing Margaret home in a way.

She's pretty cool, isn't she Losey Lawless. I think the next time I want to make a movie about somebody's life, I'm going to call her first. She seems to be a get things done kind of a woman by the sounds of things, and I'm not really In fact, I'm not get things done person, nor am I a woman. So don't come to me what I'm saying unless you want a podcast done. Because I do a couple of those every day. I'll be back with this one the same time again tomorrow, and then a little bit later in the day I'll have the rewrap for you, which is kind of the same as this, except that's mostly about microskings. I'll see you at the end.

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