In this episode of HELLO FUTURE, host Kevin Cirilli sits down with Mattie Duppler to cut through the hype and examine what the data actually says about AI’s impact on jobs, productivity, and the future of work.

While generative AI is boosting productivity and accelerating learning curves (especially for less experienced workers), the picture is more complicated than “robots taking all the jobs.” Mattie breaks down why early-career employment in AI-exposed fields has already declined 16% relative to pre-AI trends, why college graduate unemployment for ages 23–27 has risen from 3.25% in 2019 to 4.59% in 2025, and why heavy AI users are paradoxically more likely to quit their jobs than light users.

She also explores what isn’t changing: employee values around meaningful work, flexibility, and career development remain remarkably stable. Mattie offers a clear-eyed fiscal and labor market perspective on how organizations and policymakers should respond — and why simply reskilling workers without rethinking early-career pathways and incentive structures won’t be enough.