It's January 26. And on this special episode of Mamamia Out Loud, we are passing the mics to three First Nations women from different parts of the country - Tanya Orman, Maddie Richey and Karla Grant - to tell us what  'Australia Day' means to them.

Your host is Jessie Stephens. 

With thanks to...

Maddy Richey

Karla Grant

and Tanya Orman. 

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It's January 26. And on this special episode of Mamamia Out Loud, we are passing the mics to three First Nations women from different parts of the country - Tanya Orman, Maddie Richey and Karla Grant - to tell us what&nbsp; 'Australia Day' means to them.
Your host is Jessie Stephens.&nbsp;
With thanks to...
Maddy Richey
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/karlag28/">Karla Grant</a>
and <a href="https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/person/tanya-denning-orman">Tanya Orman</a>.&nbsp;
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Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

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One of the world’s biggest superstars has let a film crew record some her most vulnerable moments and we can't stop talking about it. I Am: Celine Dion, reveals a raw insight into the singers life, living with an incredibly rare progressive autoimmune neurological disorder called stiff person syndrome. We discuss the details from the moving documentary and unpack Dion's motivation to share her most personal moments with the world.

Plus, your weekly recommendations, which include an eye-opening podcast, something to do with three generations and the best kind of shopping - it’s free.  

And, a very messy Mia, a lesson never learned and Jessie’s big Saturday night, it's our best and worst of the week.

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One of the world’s biggest superstars has let a film crew record some her most vulnerable moments and we can't stop talking about it. I Am: Celine Dion, reveals a raw insight into the singers life, living with an incredibly rare progressive autoimmune neurological disorder called stiff person syndrome. We discuss the details from the moving documentary and unpack Dion's motivation to share her most personal moments with the world.
Plus, your weekly recommendations, which include an eye-opening podcast, something to do with three generations and the best kind of shopping - it’s free.  
And, a very messy Mia, a lesson never learned and Jessie’s big Saturday night, it's our best and worst of the week.
What To Listen To Next: 
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<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jessie-therapy-dilemma/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Jessie's Unexpected Therapy Dilemma</a></li>
<li>Listen to Monday's episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/joe-biden-donald-trump-presidential-debate">Is This All Jill Biden's Fault?</a></li>
<li>Listen to Wednesday's episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/american-sweethearts-dallas-cowboy-cheerleaders">A Morality Checklist For Cheerleaders</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/dallas-cowboy-cheerleaders-netflix/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Every Thought We Had About 'America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders'</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/seasonal-colour-analysis-kim-crowley">Which Season Are You? The Colour Rules That Changed Our Wardrobes</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/germaine-greer-louis-theroux-podcast/">“Shut Up, You’re Too Old” </a></li>
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<li>Listen to No Filter: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/jimmy-and-nath">The Bromance The World Needs - Jimmy &amp; Nath</a></li>
<li>Listen to Cancelled:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/cancelled-podcast/katy-perry"> Katy "Feud With Taylor Swift" Perry</a></li>
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<li>Read Em Vernem's piece: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/what-day-of-the-week-are-you/">What day of the week are you? Your answer reveals a lot about you.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/celine-dion-documentary-reaction/">Read: A scene from Celine Dion’s new documentary has fans in tears.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/celine-dion-john-farnham-friendship/">Inside Celine Dion and John Farnham’s unexpected 6-year-long friendship.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/celine-dion-documentary-scene/">One 'intense' moment in Céline Dion's doco was almost cut out. The singer fought to keep it in.</a></li>
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Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Assistant Producer: Tahli Blackman 
Audio Production: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

The Celebrity Who Let Us See Her Worst Moment

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Forget the Poms poms, tiny white shorts and high kicks from hell, the biggest takeaway from America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders is the pink economy. This episode we unpack the pay situation highlighted in the new Netflix hit show and how it compares to cheerleaders in our own backyard. 

Plus, the UK election has brought Kier Starmer's work/life boundaries into question. So are world leaders allowed to have Friday nights off? We have thoughts. 

And, according to one rogue writer, Taylor Swift is not a "good" role model because she is unmarried and doesn't have kids...*sigh*... strap in because we need to have a word. 

The End Bits: 
Listen to our latest episode: Every Thought We Had About 'America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders'
Listen to Monday's episode: Is This All Jill Biden's Fault?
Listen to The Quicky: Dallas Cheerleaders Do It For Love While Everyone Else Makes Money
Read: Lack of respect and minimal pay: What it's really like to be an NRL cheerleader.
Read: I had to stop watching the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders doco after the third episode.'
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Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Assistant Producer: Tahli Blackman 

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Forget the Poms poms, tiny white shorts and high kicks from hell, the biggest takeaway from America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders is the pink economy. This episode we unpack the pay situation highlighted in the new Netflix hit show and how it compares to cheerleaders in our own backyard. 
Plus, the UK election has brought Kier Starmer's work/life boundaries into question. So are world leaders allowed to have Friday nights off? We have thoughts. 
And, according to one rogue writer, Taylor Swift is not a "good" role model because she is unmarried and doesn't have kids...*sigh*... strap in because we need to have a word. 
The End Bits: 
<ul>
<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/dallas-cowboy-cheerleaders-netflix/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Every Thought We Had About 'America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders'</a></li>
<li>Listen to Monday's episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/joe-biden-donald-trump-presidential-debate">Is This All Jill Biden's Fault?</a></li>
<li>Listen to The Quicky: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/cheerleaders-dallas-cowboys">Dallas Cheerleaders Do It For Love While Everyone Else Makes Money</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/nrl-cheerleaders-in-australia/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Lack of respect and minimal pay: What it's really like to be an NRL cheerleader.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-opinion/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">I had to stop watching the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders doco after the third episode.'</a></li>
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Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Assistant Producer: Tahli Blackman 
Audio Production: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

A Morality Checklist For Cheerleaders

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We can all agree that the American presidential debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump was a hard watch. Some people think one woman is to blame for the bin fire. We explain. 

Plus, does any bride think she looks good in her wedding photos? One bride has taken to TikTok to complain, so we're unpacking wedding photo culture and the pressure it puts on women. 

And, Australian politicians’ sons appear to have a group chat. And it’s in all major newspapers near you. We discuss the ethics surrounding when children of public figures are brought into media scrutiny. 

The End Bits: 
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Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Assistant Producer: Tahli Blackman 

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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We can all agree that the American presidential debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump was a hard watch. Some people think one woman is to blame for the bin fire. We explain. 
Plus, does any bride think she looks good in her wedding photos? One bride has taken to TikTok to complain, so we're unpacking wedding photo culture and the pressure it puts on women. 
And, Australian politicians’ sons appear to have a group chat. And it’s in all major newspapers near you. We discuss the ethics surrounding when children of public figures are brought into media scrutiny. 
The End Bits: 
<ul>
<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/seasonal-colour-analysis-kim-crowley">Which Season Are You? The Colour Rules That Changed Our Wardrobes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/free-colour-quiz/">What season are you? Take our colour analysis quiz.</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/new-etiquette-rules">Shoes Off, No Flowers, Fast Goodbyes. The New Etiquette Rules</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/intergenerational-wealth/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">The Conversation That Blew Up The Podcast</a></li>
<li>Listen to The Quick: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/brisbane-paris-olympics">The Paris Games Are 31 Days Away, Why Are Parisians Pooping In The River?</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/brisbane-paris-olympics">The Paris Games are 31 days away, why are Parisians pooping in the river?</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/sepia-bride-tiktok-controversy/">The bride rioting over her wedding photos.</a></li>
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Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Assistant Producer: Tahli Blackman 
Audio Production: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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