Jamila Rizvi returns to the podcast for a week of spills and magazine thrills. How are the ladies of Australia coping without their Minister For Women? Should men get a Minister too? Why First Lady Lucy Turnbull is kick arse. And the Kerri-Anne bikini body dilemma.  

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Kerri-Anne in her bikini.

Lucy Turnbull is one kick arse woman.

Jess Irvine writes why marriage equality will be a massive boost to the economy For more Turnbull, Jamila recommends reading Robert Manne in The MonthlyWhy was Prince Phillip knighted? Because the Queen said so.  Jamila is getting into Country Music, y'all. And all because of Nashville Mia loves the kids book Fearless by Colin ThompsonMonique recommends this episode of All In The Mind about The Truman Show Details for the Mamamia Writer's Competition are here. Enter!  Contact the show on @mamamiapodcastsemail us podcast@mamamia.com.auOr join the conversation on the Facebook Page The show is presented by Monique Bowley, Mia Freedman and Jamila Rizvi This podcast is produced by Monique Bowley for the Mamamia Podcast Network. Support from this podcast came from audible.com.auGet your first book free by signing up at audible.com.au/mamamia

Jamila Rizvi returns to the podcast for a week of spills and magazine thrills.&nbsp;How are the ladies of Australia coping without their Minister For Women? Should men get a Minister too? Why First Lady Lucy Turnbull is kick arse. And the Kerri-Anne bikini body dilemma. &nbsp;
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<a href="http://www.mamamia.com.au/entertainment/kerri-anne-kennerley-bikini/">Kerri-Anne in her bikini.</a>
Lucy Turnbull is<a href="http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/lucy-turnbull-malcolm-turnbull-wife/"> one kick arse woman.</a>
Jess Irvine writes why&nbsp;m<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/comment/malcolm-turnbull-should-pursue-free-vote-on-gay-marriage-to-boost-economy-20150915-gjmygd.html">arriage equality will be a massive boost to the economy</a>
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<div class="message avatar" data-ts="1440496584.000082">For more Turnbull, Jamila recommends reading <a href="https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2012/april/1337744204/robert-manne/one-morning-malcolm">Robert Manne in The Monthly</a></div>
<div class="message avatar" data-ts="1440496584.000082">Why was Prince Phillip knighted? <a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/tony-abbott-loyal-to-a-fault-why-philip-was-knighted/story-e6frg76f-1227529397192">Because the Queen said so.&nbsp;</a></div>
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<div class="message avatar" data-ts="1440496584.000082">Jamila is getting into Country Music, y'all. And all because of <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2281375/">Nashville</a>&nbsp;</div>
<div class="message avatar" data-ts="1440496584.000082">Mia loves the kids book&nbsp;<a href="http://www.booktopia.com.au/fearless-colin-thompson/prod9780733330872.html?source=pla&amp;gclid=CIn4r-H3-scCFVglvQod2JQJfg">Fearless</a> by Colin Thompson</div>
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<div class="message avatar" data-ts="1440496584.000082">Monique recommends this episode of <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/allinthemind/the-truman-show/6740292">All In The Mind about The Truman Show</a></div>
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Dolly Parton has died at 80, and the world has lost one of its most beloved icons. Mia, Amelia and Em unpack what made Dolly so universally loved. From her music and iconic look to her extraordinary business brain and the millions of books she&rsquo;s given to children.
Plus, would you have a baby for $75,000? Singapore is offering new parents a huge cash incentive to tackle its declining birth rate.&nbsp;
And is the humble &lsquo;pop-in&rsquo; officially cancelled? Is turning up at someone&rsquo;s house unannounced rude or even, controversial?
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> today. You hot? Same.
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The Sydney Swans scandal has left fans devastated, but what does it mean for a club that built its identity around being progressive, inclusive and different from other sporting codes? Mia Freedman, Em Vernem and Amelia Lester unpack the fallout and why so many female fans feel betrayed by a team they thought was a safe place to belong.
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'I watch movies for a living, but this is where I draw the line.'

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Acting Group Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray
Video Producer: Michael Kean
Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.&nbsp;

Would You Go Topless In Front Of Your Dad? 

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