Ruby Franke, the family vlogger mum, is behind bars for child abuse -- but what about her husband Kevin? We dive into the forgotten family member in this disturbing story and ask whether this case should make us rethink how we share our children's lives online.

Plus, from Meghan Markle's vision board to the surge in The White Lotus hotel bookings, why is everyone suddenly feeling aspirational?

And, everyone’s lonely, but no-one wants to make plans. Why we’re in the Year of the Flake - unless you’re Mia Freedman who's top of the leaderboard for mastering the pre-flake. 

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• Read: Ruby Franke's husband claimed he never knew of her abuse. He's just spoken again.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.