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Plus, Em’s phone update has been quietly sabotaging her alarm and a dream about a cockroach has ruined her entire day. Then Holly shares the cockroach story that proves dreams can come true.

Also, why Jessie wakes one of her twins at 3am on purpose and which baby has just learned to crawl like a drooling little snail.

And, Holly confesses to sneaking into a hotel car park hours before check-in plus the one part of her week she refuses to give up.



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Three coffee machines. A 3am bottle. A 5am stealth mission in the dark. Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Em Vernem walk you through everything that happened before they sat down for our 9am meeting.
Plus, Em&rsquo;s phone update has been quietly sabotaging her alarm and a dream about a cockroach has ruined her entire day. Then Holly shares the cockroach story that proves dreams can come true.
Also, why Jessie wakes one of her twins at 3am on purpose and which baby has just learned to crawl like a drooling little snail.
And, Holly confesses to sneaking into a hotel car park hours before check-in plus the one part of her week she refuses to give up.
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SUBS: Everything Jessie Stephens Did Before Getting To Work

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A blue wave just swept across America, with Democrats seizing both houses of Congress and flipping states like Texas and Kansas that haven’t voted that way in decades.

Our very own Amelia Lester joins The Quicky to unpack what it means for Trump’s final two years, from the Iran war to AI, and the voters who abandoned him. Plus, we meet the half-Aussie senator some are tipping as the Democrats’ best shot at the White House in 2028.

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A blue wave just swept across America, with Democrats seizing both houses of Congress and flipping states like Texas and Kansas that haven&rsquo;t voted that way in decades.
Our very own Amelia Lester joins The Quicky to unpack what it means for Trump&rsquo;s final two years, from the Iran war to AI, and the voters who abandoned him. Plus, we meet the half-Aussie senator some are tipping as the Democrats&rsquo; best shot at the White House in 2028.
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THE QUICKY: Amelia Lester On The Blue Wave

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Yesterday was a big day in Australia. You may or may not have known that it was the Melbourne Cup and there's a specific link between King Charles and Bec Judd that has them not as worried about the interest rates rise as the rest of us.

On Monday, author Craig Silvey was sentenced to seven months in prison. The same day, he published a 9,000-word ‘apology’ on Substack. We unpack what's in it, what's missing from it and how he was even able to publish it.

Plus, last year we were all told to ‘Let Them’. Now, a character on Nobody Wants This says we should ‘Make Them’. We ask why men and women are given such different self-help advice.

Also, Kim Kardashian's authorised biography is out, and Holly has a question: if someone wrote the story of your life, what would you make them take out? 

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Yesterday was a big day in Australia. You may or may not have known that it was the Melbourne Cup and there's a specific link between King Charles and Bec Judd that has them not as worried about the interest rates rise as the rest of us.
On Monday, author Craig Silvey was sentenced to seven months in prison. The same day, he published a 9,000-word &lsquo;apology&rsquo; on Substack. We unpack what's in it, what's missing from it and how he was even able to publish it.
Plus, last year we were all told to &lsquo;Let Them&rsquo;. Now, a character on Nobody Wants This says we should &lsquo;Make Them&rsquo;. We ask why men and women are given such different self-help advice. Also, Kim Kardashian's authorised biography is out, and Holly has a question: if someone wrote the story of your life, what would you make them take out?&nbsp;
If you have experienced sexual assault and are in need of support, please call&nbsp;<a href="https://www.1800respect.org.au/">1800 RESPECT</a>&nbsp;on 1800 737 732. Help is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week. You can also contact&nbsp;<a href="https://bravehearts.org.au/">Bravehearts</a> for counselling and support for survivors of sexual abuse on 1800 272 831 and <a href="http://www.lifeline.org.au/">Lifeline</a> for 24-hour crisis support and suicide prevention.
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Jennifer Lawrence has launched a hair care line called Mes°, and she’s told the world she wants to be a “sexy mum at drop off”. Amelia had to do some serious soul-searching to work out why she’s so furious about it. Jessie thinks we only have ourselves to blame, and Holly needs a word invented for one very specific feeling.

Plus, how many tins of baked beans are in your pantry right now? Amelia found out who started the stockpiling panic and we explain why most of it can be ignored.

Also, a husband-and-wife podcast, a portrait tattoo and an old clip that has aged very badly. Jessie explains the H3 cheating scandal to two people who have never heard of it.

Plus Martha Stewart has issued a statement about her Halloween costume. It is not an apology. It’s so Martha.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

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Jennifer Lawrence has launched a hair care line called Mes&deg;, and she&rsquo;s told the world she wants to be a &ldquo;sexy mum at drop off&rdquo;. Amelia had to do some serious soul-searching to work out why she&rsquo;s so furious about it. Jessie thinks we only have ourselves to blame, and Holly needs a word invented for one very specific feeling. Plus, how many tins of baked beans are in your pantry right now? Amelia found out who started the stockpiling panic and we explain why most of it can be ignored. Also, a husband-and-wife podcast, a portrait tattoo and an old clip that has aged very badly. Jessie explains the H3 cheating scandal to two people who have never heard of it. Plus Martha Stewart has issued a statement about her Halloween costume. It is not an apology. It&rsquo;s so Martha.
We&rsquo;re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We&rsquo;re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at<a href="http://apple.co/creatorsweloveau."> apple.co/creatorsweloveau.</a>
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Should you love your partner exactly as much as they love you? Holly, Jessie and Em can’t agree, and one of them has a bedtime ritual that might settle it. Then they name the famous couples who aren’t quite equally in love. All speculation of course. Tom and Zendaya, we're looking at you.

Plus, it started with an Amazon dish rack and a broken wine glass, and ended with a 30-part TikTok series and nine million views. Em unpacks the New York roommate war the internet couldn’t stop picking sides on, and Holly reveals some of the wild stories of her old sharehouse.

Also, Taylor Swift says Brad Paisley once released thousands of live crickets onto her tour bus. Jessie has questions about men and pranks.

And, in this week’s reccos, a TV show that’s almost too obvious to recommend (but we couldn’t help ourselves), a book people keep thinking is full of typos and a hair product Em didn’t know she needed.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

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Recommendations

Em recommendsBouffe Hair Gloss and Perfume.

Jessie recommends Lost Lambs by Madeline Cash.

Holly recommends TV Show The Diplomat, season 4. 

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Emily Vernem

Acting Group Executive Producer: Georgie Page

Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit

Video Producer: Matt Perry

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. 

Should you love your partner exactly as much as they love you? Holly, Jessie and Em can&rsquo;t agree, and one of them has a bedtime ritual that might settle it. Then they name the famous couples who aren&rsquo;t quite equally in love. All speculation of course. Tom and Zendaya, we're looking at you.
Plus, it started with an Amazon dish rack and a broken wine glass, and ended with a 30-part TikTok series and nine million views. Em unpacks the New York roommate war the internet couldn&rsquo;t stop picking sides on, and Holly reveals some of the wild stories of her old sharehouse.
Also, Taylor Swift says Brad Paisley once released thousands of live crickets onto her tour bus. Jessie has questions about men and pranks.
And, in this week&rsquo;s reccos, a TV show that&rsquo;s almost too obvious to recommend (but we couldn&rsquo;t help ourselves), a book people keep thinking is full of typos and a hair product Em didn&rsquo;t know she needed. We&rsquo;re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We&rsquo;re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at<a href="http://apple.co/creatorsweloveau."> apple.co/creatorsweloveau.</a>
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Em recommends <a href="https://bouf.com/collections/hair-perfume?utm_source=google&amp;amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;amp;utm_campaign=pmaxnon-brand&amp;amp;tp_gid=&amp;amp;tp_cid=22975449570&amp;amp;tp_id=&amp;amp;tp_pid=&amp;amp;tp_source=google&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=24390779652&amp;amp;gbraid=0AAAAA_myOropi2C6Mx-DFt7o15J3uT50f&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwuobXBhBXEiwAYUaIlQ_lrFM21_AZxr45t4cW-F5xNffYibIdqA35fkIiiiQOKOTveNsmdRoCiZUQAvD_BwE">Bouffe Hair Gloss and Perfume</a>.
Jessie recommends <a href="https://www.bigw.com.au/product/lost-lambs-by-madeline-cash/p/6076074?utm_source=google&amp;amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;amp;utm_id=21753682927&amp;amp;utm_campaign=BIG+W+%7C+Play+%7C+PMax+%7C+Books&amp;amp;utm_term=&amp;amp;gclsrc=aw.ds&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=21753684868&amp;amp;gbraid=0AAAAADkZkLi9u-JZ1bYmcoJY_a0YJrXtD&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwuobXBhBXEiwAYUaIldDaT8RyeX0P8sArv6BfyUSCxGUZnI-SlrQ6_ueLciexh89fU3Lo9BoCgzoQAvD_BwE">Lost Lambs</a> by Madeline Cash.
Holly recommends TV Show <a href="https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81288983?source=35&amp;amp;fromWatch=true">The Diplomat</a>, season 4.&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/zendaya-and-tom-holland-relationship/">There's a reason why you won&rsquo;t be seeing any Zendaya and Tom Holland wedding photos.</a></li>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens &amp; Emily Vernem
Acting Group Executive Producer: Georgie Page
Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit
Video Producer: Matt Perry
Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.&nbsp;

Love Gap Relationships & It Started With An Argument About A Dish Rack

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Out Louders, Dr Carter from ER is all grown up and officially the Sexiest Man Alive. Em Vernem has the tea on how the winner actually gets chosen, and it starts with a very grumpy Mel Gibson. Was Noah Wyle your pick, or was someone robbed?

Plus, Holly Wainwright saw her first “word of the year” post this week and felt her neck tense up. It isn’t even November and Christmas decorations are already on sale. We ask why this is the exact week the end-of-year panic sets in.

Also, indoor skydiving, trampoline parks, adult LEGO and now... petting zoos? One Mumsnet mum reckons grown-ups are taking over kids’ days out, and she’s not happy about it. Em will be patting the baby goat regardless.

And Meghan is coming back to film Junior MasterChef. If she’s in Melbourne for a few weeks, where is she living? Toorak is the early favourite. Melbourne Out Louders, we need your expert opinion.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

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Out Louders, Dr Carter from ER is all grown up and officially the Sexiest Man Alive. Em Vernem has the tea on how the winner actually gets chosen, and it starts with a very grumpy Mel Gibson. Was Noah Wyle your pick, or was someone robbed? Plus, Holly Wainwright saw her first &ldquo;word of the year&rdquo; post this week and felt her neck tense up. It isn&rsquo;t even November and Christmas decorations are already on sale. We ask why this is the exact week the end-of-year panic sets in.
Also, indoor skydiving, trampoline parks, adult LEGO and now... petting zoos? One Mumsnet mum reckons grown-ups are taking over kids&rsquo; days out, and she&rsquo;s not happy about it. Em will be patting the baby goat regardless.
And Meghan is coming back to film Junior MasterChef. If she&rsquo;s in Melbourne for a few weeks, where is she living? Toorak is the early favourite. Melbourne Out Louders, we need your expert opinion.
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<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-questions-you-need-to-ask-your-friends/">The Case Against Being Nice</a></li>
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Holly Had A Breakdown This Time Last Year. It's Happened Again.

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Mia asked whether two of her kids’ friends were dating. The answer? No, they’re “talking”. Em and Keeshia try to explain the difference between talking, hooking up and dating, and somehow make it worse.

Plus, Keeshia confesses she’s the friend who never checks in. With the internet now saying that’s a red flag; she's asking whether the weekly “how are you?” text is a kindness or really a chore?

Today, each of our three hosts brings a dilemma to the table. We’re woefully unqualified, but we give it a red hot go.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

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Mia asked whether two of her kids&rsquo; friends were dating. The answer? No, they&rsquo;re &ldquo;talking&rdquo;. Em and Keeshia try to explain the difference between talking, hooking up and dating, and somehow make it worse.
Plus, Keeshia confesses she&rsquo;s the friend who never checks in. With the internet now saying that&rsquo;s a red flag; she's asking whether the weekly &ldquo;how are you?&rdquo; text is a kindness or really a chore?
Today, each of our three hosts brings a dilemma to the table. We&rsquo;re woefully unqualified, but we give it a red hot go. We&rsquo;re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We&rsquo;re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at<a href="http://apple.co/creatorsweloveau."> apple.co/creatorsweloveau.</a>
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<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-questions-you-need-to-ask-your-friends/">The Case Against Being Nice</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/elon-musk-new-documentary?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Elon Musk &amp; The 4 Hour Documentary We Can&rsquo;t Watch</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/helen-haines-mp-attack/">What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us &amp; The Russell Brand Strategy</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/andy-lee-rebecca-harding-wedding/">Andy Lee &amp; Bec Harding&rsquo;s Royal Wedding &amp; &ldquo;Can I Crash On Your Couch?&rdquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/perimeopause-special-episode/">Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud</a></li>
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SUBS FREE TASTER: "Am I A Bad Friend?" Our Team's Personal Dilemmas

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For years, the most damning thing anyone could say about Meghan Markle was that she doesn’t speak to her dad. This week, that story took a very dark turn. Holly, Jessie and Amelia unpack the allegations against Thomas Markle (which he denies), Meghan’s response and the role the tabloids have played in all of this.

Plus, if you’re having a rubbish start to the week, it could be because Mercury is now in retrograde in Scorpio! If that sentence gave you the maths-lady meme face, Amelia explains why the next ten days could change the world.

Also, Leigh Campbell, host of You Beauty, posted a very serious Instagram carousel over the weekend announcing a big life decision. We break down our thoughts.

And, Margot Robbie is back on Ramsay Street. Sort of. Yes even though Neighbours has vanished from our screens, it seems it could be coming back in a very different way.

Plus, if you’re in our wonderful Mamamia Outlouders Facebook group, Holly wants to have a chat…

If you or anyone you know needs expert help, please contact 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732) — the National Sexual Assault, Domestic and Family Violence Counselling Service. If you are in immediate danger, call 000.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

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Listen to our latest episode: The Case Against Being Nice
Listen: Elon Musk & The 4 Hour Documentary We Can’t Watch
Listen: What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us & The Russell Brand Strategy
Listen: "Major Life Update. We're Getting Divorced. Any Questions?"
Listen: Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?”
Listen: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud
Listen: The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?”
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

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What to read: 
Meghan Markle wrote her estranged father a pointed letter. It made one thing clear.
'They're destroying the monarchy.' The 8 weirdest moments from Thomas Markle's 'tell-all' interview.
Maybe you wouldn’t speak to Harry & Meghan’s families, either.
'My phone addiction was genuinely taking over my life. This is the only thing that fixed it.'

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GET IN TOUCH:

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

For years, the most damning thing anyone could say about Meghan Markle was that she doesn&rsquo;t speak to her dad. This week, that story took a very dark turn. Holly, Jessie and Amelia unpack the allegations against Thomas Markle (which he denies), Meghan&rsquo;s response and the role the tabloids have played in all of this.
Plus, if you&rsquo;re having a rubbish start to the week, it could be because Mercury is now in retrograde in Scorpio! If that sentence gave you the maths-lady meme face, Amelia explains why the next ten days could change the world.
Also, Leigh Campbell, host of You Beauty, posted a very serious Instagram carousel over the weekend announcing a big life decision. We break down our thoughts.
And, Margot Robbie is back on Ramsay Street. Sort of. Yes even though Neighbours has vanished from our screens, it seems it could be coming back in a very different way.
Plus, if you&rsquo;re in our wonderful <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/outlouders">Mamamia Outlouders</a> Facebook group, Holly wants to have a chat&hellip;
If you or anyone you know needs expert help, please contact <a href="https://www.1800respect.org.au/">1800 RESPECT</a> (1800 737 732) &mdash; the National Sexual Assault, Domestic and Family Violence Counselling Service. If you are in immediate danger, call <a href="http://000.hi">000.</a> We&rsquo;re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We&rsquo;re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at<a href="http://apple.co/creatorsweloveau."> apple.co/creatorsweloveau.</a>
Get 20% off Fearless Swimwear when you become a <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=fearless-swimwear">Mamamia subscriber</a>. You&rsquo;ll also get subscriber-only podcast episodes, early listening, exclusive articles, giveaways, more partner discounts and our fitness app, MOVE, included for free.
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-questions-you-need-to-ask-your-friends/">The Case Against Being Nice</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/elon-musk-new-documentary?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Elon Musk &amp; The 4 Hour Documentary We Can&rsquo;t Watch</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/helen-haines-mp-attack/">What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us &amp; The Russell Brand Strategy</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/divorce-faqs/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">"Major Life Update. We're Getting Divorced. Any Questions?"</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/andy-lee-rebecca-harding-wedding/">Andy Lee &amp; Bec Harding&rsquo;s Royal Wedding &amp; &ldquo;Can I Crash On Your Couch?&rdquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/perimeopause-special-episode/">Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/how-to-be-rude-in-2026/">The New Ways To Be Rude &amp; &ldquo;How Much Do You Earn?&rdquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/susan-dell-internet-pile-on?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts</a></li>
</ul>
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Check out the <a href="https://substack.com/@mamamiaoutloud">Mamamia Out Loud newsletter</a>.
Discover more <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">Mamamia Podcasts here </a>including the very latest episode of <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/">Parenting Out Loud</a>, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/thomas-markle-documentary/">'They're destroying the monarchy.' The 8 weirdest moments from Thomas Markle's 'tell-all' interview.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://substack.com/home/post/p-221416359">Maybe you wouldn&rsquo;t speak to Harry &amp; Meghan&rsquo;s families, either.</a></li>
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This Is Not A Frivolous Royal Story & Why Your Life Is Chaos Right Now

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Somewhere on Lily Allen’s tour schedule, between soundcheck and emails, was “test butt plug”. Holly unpacks the new merch and asks whether celebrity sex toys are still smart business, or just the new perfume.

Plus, Jessie makes the case against being nice. Is keeping the peace quietly wrecking our relationships?

Also, the questions to ask your friends if you actually want to know them better, and why one of them is a slippery slope.

And of course our weekly reccos, including a podcast interview with a bombshell that had one of us gasping on the train, and Em’s defence of a movie nobody likes at all.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

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Nobody Wants This season 2 fixes what season one got wrong.
When being too nice is actually holding you back.
Judith Lucy wrote a book about wellness. Then life handed her a cruel twist.
'Some of my friendships were already dead. I just hadn't said it out loud.'

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Emily Vernem

Acting Group Executive Producer: Georgie Page

Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit

Video Producer: Matt Perry

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Somewhere on Lily Allen&rsquo;s tour schedule, between soundcheck and emails, was &ldquo;test butt plug&rdquo;. Holly unpacks the new merch and asks whether celebrity sex toys are still smart business, or just the new perfume. Plus, Jessie makes the case against being nice. Is keeping the peace quietly wrecking our relationships? Also, the questions to ask your friends if you actually want to know them better, and why one of them is a slippery slope. And of course our weekly reccos, including a podcast interview with a bombshell that had one of us gasping on the train, and Em&rsquo;s defence of a movie nobody likes at all.
We&rsquo;re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We&rsquo;re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at<a href="http://apple.co/creatorsweloveau."> apple.co/creatorsweloveau.</a>
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Em recommends <a href="google.com/search?q=nobody+wants+this+season+3&amp;oq=nobody+wants+this+season+3&amp;gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIQCAEQLhivARjHARiABBiOBTIKCAIQABixAxiABDIKCAMQLhixAxiABDIGCAQQABgDMg0IBRAAGIMBGLEDGIAEMhkIBhAuGK8BGMcBGLEDGIAEGIoFGI4FGI0GMhAIBxAuGLEDGIAEGIoFGI0GMgoICBAAGLEDGIAEMgoICRAAGLEDGIAE0gEIMjI0MGowajeoAgCwAgA&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;source=chrome.ob&amp;ie=UTF-8">Nobody Wants This</a> season 3 AND has a defence of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=job8V254NAE">Digger</a>
Jessie recommends <a href="https://www.dymocks.com.au/fruit-fly-by-josh-silver-9781836432395">Fruit Fly</a> by Josh Silver&nbsp;&nbsp;
Holly recommends the <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/judith-lucy-wrote-the-book-on-wellness-then-she-got-cancer/">No Filter episode with Judith Lucy.</a>
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Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> today. You hot? Same.
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to No Filter: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/judith-lucy-wrote-the-book-on-wellness-then-she-got-cancer/">Judith Lucy Wrote the Book on Wellness. Then She Got Cancer</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/elon-musk-new-documentary?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Elon Musk &amp; The 4 Hour Documentary We Can&rsquo;t Watch</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/helen-haines-mp-attack/">What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us &amp; The Russell Brand Strategy</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/nobody-wants-this-season-2-review/">Nobody Wants This season 2 fixes what season one got wrong.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/can-you-ever-be-too-nice/">When being too nice is actually holding you back.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/judith-lucy-no-filter/">Judith Lucy wrote a book about wellness. Then life handed her a cruel twist.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/midlife-friendship-reckoning/">'Some of my friendships were already dead. I just hadn't said it out loud.'</a></li>
</ul>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens &amp; Emily Vernem
Acting Group Executive Producer: Georgie Page
Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit
Video Producer: Matt Perry
Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

The Case Against Being Nice

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“Thank you, you lovely people. I appreciate your help.” Those were reportedly Helen Haines’s first words to the strangers who ran to her aid outside her Wangaratta office on Monday. Jessie, Mia and Holly reflect on the woman, described by all sides of politics as the best of us, on the strangers who ran to help her,and on what female politicians are now saying about their safety. Our love goes to Helen and her family.

Also, Russell Brand is on trial in London, and he and his wife Laura are posting about it every day. Holly unpacks why Britain can’t look away.

Plus, forget the postcode. Mia is backing a theory that what decides how happy you are is everything within ten minutes of your front door.

And, Prince Harry sat down with GQ and used the word “reconcile”. Holly nearly broke a thumb clicking.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

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Listen to our latest episode: "Major Life Update. We're Getting Divorced. Any Questions?"
Listen: Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?”
Listen: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud
Listen: The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?”
Listen: Why Is The Internet Being Unspeakably Cruel To One Woman This Week?
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

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'This wasn't an accident'. Yesterday a female MP was hit by a car in an alleged 'deliberate act'.
'I was so repulsed.' Six women have testified against Russell Brand in his rape trial.
Russell Brand confessed something very bad in a profile and everyone with kids is furious.

THE END BITS: 

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GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

&ldquo;Thank you, you lovely people. I appreciate your help.&rdquo; Those were reportedly Helen Haines&rsquo;s first words to the strangers who ran to her aid outside her Wangaratta office on Monday. Jessie, Mia and Holly reflect on the woman, described by all sides of politics as the best of us, on the strangers who ran to help her, and on what female politicians are now saying about their safety. Our love goes to Helen and her family. Also, Russell Brand is on trial in London, and he and his wife Laura are posting about it every day. Holly unpacks why Britain can&rsquo;t look away. Plus, forget the postcode. Mia is backing a theory that what decides how happy you are is everything within ten minutes of your front door. And, Prince Harry sat down with GQ and used the word &ldquo;reconcile&rdquo;. Holly nearly broke a thumb clicking.
We&rsquo;re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We&rsquo;re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at<a href="http://apple.co/creatorsweloveau."> apple.co/creatorsweloveau.</a>
Skip the 12-week waitlist. Subscribe to Mamamia today and you&rsquo;ll automatically go in the draw to win a $5,000 B2C Furniture voucher to spend online or in-store on pieces available right now.<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;utm_content=b2c-furniture"> Subscribe today</a>. T&amp;Cs apply.
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<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/andy-lee-rebecca-harding-wedding/">Andy Lee &amp; Bec Harding&rsquo;s Royal Wedding &amp; &ldquo;Can I Crash On Your Couch?&rdquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/perimeopause-special-episode/">Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/how-to-be-rude-in-2026/">The New Ways To Be Rude &amp; &ldquo;How Much Do You Earn?&rdquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/susan-dell-internet-pile-on?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Why Is The Internet Being Unspeakably Cruel To One Woman This Week?</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts</a></li>
</ul>
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<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/helen-haines-mp-alleged-attack/">'This wasn't an accident'. Yesterday a female MP was hit by a car in an alleged 'deliberate act'.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/russell-brand-rape-trial/">'I was so repulsed.' Six women have testified against Russell Brand in his rape trial.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/russell-brand-wife/">Russell Brand confessed something very bad in a profile and everyone with kids is furious.</a></li>
</ul>
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What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us & The Russell Brand Strategy

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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

Mamamia Out Loud

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