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The Prime Minister of New Zealand/feminist icon, Jacinda Ardern, has resigned. So what, if anything, can we learn from the frank admission that her 'tank' is empty? 

Plus, some of the most famous people in Australia had a shirtless brawl in a park and we’ve all been watching with popcorn. On today's show, we unpack the weirdest news story of the year so far. 

And, our best and worst of the week which include scams, fashion trends we wish would go away, and a room of one’s own. 

The End Bits: 

Listen to yesterday’s episode: The 'Nepo Baby' Conversation No One's Having

RECOMMENDATIONS: Mia wants you to listen to Glennon's Diagnosis & What Next from Glennon's podcast We Can Do Hard Things. For help and support for eating disorders, contact the Butterfly Foundation’s National Support line and online service on 1800 ED HOPE (1800 33 4673).

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Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens

Producer: Emma Gillespie

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Assistant Producer: Susannah Makin

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