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Kathleen Folbigg has been pardoned after spending 20 years in jail over killing her four children. We unpack the news, and our feelings.

Plus, last night we heard Bruce Lehrmann giving his side of the story for the first time about what happened the night he and Brittany Higgins went back to Parliament House. So what are we meant to make of it?  

Plus, why one Hollywood actress says NOT having kids ruined her career.

The End Bits

• Listen to Mia's No Filter with Jane Hansen: Kathleen Folbigg: Serial Killer Or Wrongly Convicted?
• Listen to the Kathleen Folbigg episode of True Crime Conversations: After 20 Years In Prison, Kathleen Folbigg Has Been Pardoned
• Read more about Tara Reid: Tara Reid said not having kids ruined her career.

RECOMMENDATION: Mia wants you to watch Lise Carlaw's packing saga on Instagram. 

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Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, and Jessie Stephens

Producer: Emma Gillespie

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