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One of the most successful women in Australian media has surprised everyone by opening up about her serious addiction issues and a stint in rehab. And it reminds us of something we repeatedly choose to forget. We discuss Jackie O's viral and very vulnerable moment as the star confirms that proceeds from her memoir The Whole Truth will be donated to addiction treatment centre Odyssey House. 

Plus, you’ve probably seen the clip of the Irish movie star Saoirse Ronan sitting on The Graham Norton Show couch, shutting everyone up with a truth bomb that resonated with women everywhere. But what wasn’t said? 

And, screw getting a mentor, don’t dream big and really, really don’t trust your gut. The best career advice that’s exactly the opposite of all the stuff you’ve ever been told.           

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Listen to our latest episode: The Friends Who Don’t Make The Grid
Listen: Polls, Vibes & Trump's Work Experience Day
Listen: Raygun And Some Very Big Feelings
Listen to No Filter: Jackie O On What She Wishes She'd Known About Divorce
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Read: With just 10 words, Saoirse Ronan silenced all the men on The Graham Norton Show.
Read: Jackie O hid her addiction 'hell' for 5 years. Then a phone call changed everything.

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Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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One of the most successful women in Australian media has surprised everyone by opening up about her serious addiction issues and a stint in rehab. And it reminds us of something we repeatedly choose to forget. We discuss Jackie O's viral and very vulnerable moment as the star confirms that proceeds from her memoir The Whole Truth will be donated to addiction treatment centre Odyssey House. 
Plus, you’ve probably seen the clip of the Irish movie star Saoirse Ronan sitting on The Graham Norton Show couch, shutting everyone up with a truth bomb that resonated with women everywhere. But what wasn’t said? 
And, screw getting a mentor, don’t dream big and really, really don’t trust your gut. The best career advice that’s exactly the opposite of all the stuff you’ve ever been told.           
What To Listen To Next: 
<ul>
<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/grid-zero-social-media">The Friends Who Don’t Make The Grid</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/donald-trump-mcdonalds/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Polls, Vibes &amp; Trump's Work Experience Day</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/raygun-breakdancer-australia/">Raygun And Some Very Big Feelings</a></li>
<li>Listen to No Filter: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/jackie-o/">Jackie O On What She Wishes She'd Known About Divorce</a></li>
<li>Listen to <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/true-crime-conversations/">True Crime Conversations </a></li>
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What to Read: 
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<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/saoirse-ronan-graham-norton-show/">With just 10 words, Saoirse Ronan silenced all the men on The Graham Norton Show.</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/holly-wainwright-menopause/"></a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/best-jelly-sandals-australia/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"></a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/jackie-o-addiction">Jackie O hid her addiction 'hell' for 5 years. Then a phone call changed everything.</a></li>
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Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman &amp; Jessie Stephens 
Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Production: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

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The Jackie O Story We All Got Wrong

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Oh Outlouders, you are going to be a very happy lot because you, friends, have a little treat coming your way today. 

You might have heard of one Jessie Stephens. Our very own clever clogs, author, multiple podcast host and mum is this week's special guest on Mamamia's podcast Seize The Yay, hosted by Sarah Davidson. 

This is your chance to listen in as Jessie and Sarah chat about careers, spill all the behind-the-scenes gossip from Mamamia where Jessie's media career began, and examine the never-ending juggle working parents face. So. Much. Goodness.

It's a really good listen so put your earphones in and enjoy!

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Oh Outlouders, you are going to be a very happy lot because you, friends, have a little treat coming your way today. 
You might have heard of one Jessie Stephens. Our very own clever clogs, author, multiple podcast host and mum is this week's special guest on Mamamia's podcast Seize The Yay, hosted by Sarah Davidson. 
This is your chance to listen in as Jessie and Sarah chat about careers, spill all the behind-the-scenes gossip from Mamamia where Jessie's media career began, and examine the never-ending juggle working parents face. So. Much. Goodness.
It's a really good listen so put your earphones in and enjoy!
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The End Bits: 
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/">Listen to Mamamia Out Loud </a>
More episodes of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/seize-the-yay/id1437134631">Seize The Yay </a>
Announcements on Insta at <a href="http://instagram.com/spoonful_of_sarah">@spoonful_of_sarah</a> Join our Facebook community <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1Ahiow9GaG/">here</a> Subscribe to not miss out on the next instalment of YAY!
Join the Month of MOVE
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Little Treat: Jessie Stephens On 'Seize The Yay' 

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There’s never been more in life to distract us, but we’re more bored than ever before. We unpack why we’re all so damn bored… and whether or not it’s a good thing.

Plus, our recommendations, including some funny women talking about Holly’s favourite subject, a new podcast baby in our family and a TV show to watch this weekend. 

And a formal apology from Holly, Mia’s new nana name (with a sprinkle of surprise beef) and Jessie’s juicy Saturday night encounter - it’s best and worst.

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What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: "We Can See You... Could You Not?"
Listen: We’ve Got The Ick
Listen: Dopamine Diets, Glimmers & Pockets of Joy
Listen: Horny Midlife Women & The Sexiest Man Alive
Listen: We're Ready To Share Our D*ckhead List
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Recommendations: 

Mia wants you to listen to Diary Of A Birth 

Jessie wants you to watch Bad Sisters

Holly wants you to listen tothe Avant Gardeners Podcast 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

Join the Month of MOVE

Get $30 off a Mamamia subscription and get unlimited access to our feel-good exercise app. Head here to get a yearly subscription for just $39. 

What To Read: 
Read: MIA FREEDMAN: '7 things I stopped wearing in 2024.'
Read: We've been getting 'the ick' for forever. But now it's gone too far.
Read: ‘Let them be bored.’ A mum of 3 shares her Five Golden Rules for parenting.

GET IN TOUCH:

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

There’s never been more in life to distract us, but we’re more bored than ever before. We unpack why we’re all so damn bored… and whether or not it’s a good thing.
Plus, our recommendations, including some funny women talking about Holly’s favourite subject, a new podcast baby in our family and a TV show to watch this weekend. 
And a formal apology from Holly, Mia’s new nana name (with a sprinkle of surprise beef) and Jessie’s juicy Saturday night encounter - it’s best and worst.
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Support independent women's media</a>
What To Listen To Next: 
<ul>
<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/sexless-marriage-dilemma/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">"We Can See You... Could You Not?"</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/relationship-and-friendship-icks/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">We’ve Got The Ick</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/glimmers-pockets-of-joy/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Dopamine Diets, Glimmers &amp; Pockets of Joy</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/bridget-jones-new-movie">Horny Midlife Women &amp; The Sexiest Man Alive</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/writing-a-dickhead-list">We're Ready To Share Our D*ckhead List</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts </a></li>
</ul>
Recommendations: 
Mia wants you to listen to <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/diary-of-a-birth/">Diary Of A Birth </a>
Jessie wants you to watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Ftv.apple.com%2Fau%2Fshow%2Fbad-sisters%2Fumc.cmc.14kr4vv65unannh7doqgvlh20">Bad Sisters</a>
Holly wants you to listen to the <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fau%2Fpodcast%2Favant-gardeners%2Fid1706222604">Avant Gardeners Podcast </a>
The End Bits: 
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What To Read: 
<ul>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mia-freedman-fashion-resolutions/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">MIA FREEDMAN: '7 things I stopped wearing in 2024.'</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/what-does-getting-the-ick-mean">We've been getting 'the ick' for forever. But now it's gone too far.</a></li>
<li>Read:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/parenting-rules-erin-huckle"> ‘Let them be bored.’ A mum of 3 shares her Five Golden Rules for parenting.</a></li>
</ul>
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at <a href="mailto:outloud@mamamia.com.au">outloud@mamamia.com.au</a>
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! <a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-stringify-link="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Send us a voice message</a>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman &amp; Jessie Stephens 
Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Production: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

What Every Woman Needs To Hear From Her Ex

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Medi Mums #medicalmoms are on the rise on social media. Don't know what we're talking about? Listen in as we discuss why parents share their children's moments when they're at their most vulnerable --- and why.  

Plus, is the era of the celebrity endorsement over? Eva Longoria made her thoughts about the new US president clear but after the election, no-one seems to want to hear what she, or any other celebrity, think. 

And are you in your Protective Hag era? Let's just say that one of the hosts is and one... not so much. Buckle up for the discussion. 

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What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: Dopamine Diets, Glimmers & Pockets of Joy
Listen: Horny Midlife Women & The Sexiest Man Alive
Listen: We're Ready To Share Our D*ckhead List
Listen: Stevie Nicks And The Hard Truth About Rivalry
Listen: Kate Middleton's Face & Martha Stewart's Fortune
Listen: Jessie's Great Big Mother-In-Law Dilemma
Listen: Liam Payne, Jackie O & The Addict's Friend
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

Join the Month of MOVE

Get $30 off a Mamamia subscription and get unlimited access to our feel-good exercise app. Head here to get a yearly subscription for just $39. 

GET IN TOUCH:

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Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Medi Mums #medicalmoms are on the rise on social media. Don't know what we're talking about? Listen in as we discuss why parents share their children's moments when they're at their most vulnerable --- and why.  
Plus, is the era of the celebrity endorsement over? Eva Longoria made her thoughts about the new US president clear but after the election, no-one seems to want to hear what she, or any other celebrity, think. 
And are you in your Protective Hag era? Let's just say that one of the hosts is and one... not so much. Buckle up for the discussion. 
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Support independent women's media</a>
What To Listen To Next: 
<ul>
<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/glimmers-pockets-of-joy/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Dopamine Diets, Glimmers &amp; Pockets of Joy</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/bridget-jones-new-movie">Horny Midlife Women &amp; The Sexiest Man Alive</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/writing-a-dickhead-list">We're Ready To Share Our D*ckhead List</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/stevie-nicks-rivalry/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Stevie Nicks And The Hard Truth About Rivalry</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/martha-stewart-documentary">Kate Middleton's Face &amp; Martha Stewart's Fortune</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/mother-in-law-mia-dilemma/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Jessie's Great Big Mother-In-Law Dilemma</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jamie-oliver-children-book-pulled">Liam Payne, Jackie O &amp; The Addict's Friend</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts </a></li>
</ul>
The End Bits: 
Sign up to the <a href="https://mamamiaoutloud.substack.com/">Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter </a>for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 
Join the Month of MOVE
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman &amp; Jessie Stephens 
Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Production: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

The Influencer Family We Can’t Talk About

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