So many women own a bag, purse, or phone-case emblazoned with the name Kate Spade.  And on Wednesday, this iconic designer was found dead in her home in New York, shocking everyone. So what are the conversations we should be having around her death?  

Plus, if you’re seeing Sex And The City everywhere in your feeds this week, it’s because it is officially 20 years old. So what do Carrie and her mates mean to young feminists?

If you or anyone you know needs help contact: Lifeline on 13 11 14 - Beyond Blue on 1300 22 46 36- Headspace on 1800 650 890

The End Bits


Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Mia Freedman

Producer: Elissa Ratliff

Subscribe to our new Wedding planning podcast, HITCHED, here.

What You Should Read / Watch / Listen

Jessie: Listening to The Teachers Pet Podcast.

Holly: Reading Still A Queen by Constance Hall

Mia: Downloading the Can Do app.

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So many women own a bag, purse, or phone-case emblazoned with the name Kate Spade.&nbsp; And on Wednesday, this iconic designer was found dead in her home in New York, shocking everyone. So what are the conversations we should be having around her death? &nbsp;
Plus, if you&rsquo;re seeing Sex And The City everywhere in your feeds this week, it&rsquo;s because it is officially 20 years old. So what do Carrie and her mates mean to young feminists?
If you or anyone you know needs help contact:&nbsp;Lifeline on 13 11 14 - Beyond Blue on 1300 22 46 36- Headspace on 1800 650 890
The End Bits 
Hosts: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/holly-wainwright/">Holly Wainwright</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/jessie-stephens-2/">Jessie Stephens</a> and&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/miafreedman?lang=en">Mia Freedman</a>
Producer: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/elissaratliff/">Elissa Ratliff</a>
Subscribe to our new Wedding planning podcast, HITCHED, <a href="ttps://radiopublic.com/hitched-Ww00wg">here.</a>
What You Should Read / Watch / Listen
Jessie: Listening to The Teachers Pet Podcast.
Holly:&nbsp;Reading Still A Queen by Constance Hall
Mia: Downloading the Can Do app.
COME TALK TO US
Join the Out Louders Facebook group <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/">here</a>.
GET IN TOUCH:
Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386.
Head to <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/">https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/</a> to this and all our pods delivered straight to your inbox.
Email the show at&nbsp;<a href="mailto:outloud@mamamia.com.au">outloud@mamamia.com.au</a>
Download the Mamamia Podcast App <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/mamamia-podcasts/id1094537820?mt=8">here</a>.
Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia
This show is part of the<a href="http://www.mamamia.com.au"> Mamamia Women&rsquo;s Network.</a>

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

Smart, often silly and sometimes surprising. Absolutely everything is up for discussion: from pop culture to politics, body image to motherhood, feminism to fashion. Join Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens as they dissect the news and issues of the week.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

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Check On Your Strong Friend

They're the girls whose names and images have been on every screen and hovering in every conversation around Australia over the last few days. So, exactly what happened to Bianca Jones and Holly Bowles? And how?  

Plus, Nicole Kidman is an enigma wrapped in a riddle — is that happy divorce pap shot REALLY fake, as she says now, and why is there so much chat about how much she works? What's the real deal here about one of Australia's biggest Hollywood stars?

And, Heath Ledger, Jacob Elordi, Timothée Chalamet, Dev Patel, Paul Mescal, Harry Styles… No, it’s not a fantasy football team, they’re all men who are the subject of super-cool celebrity lookalike contests. But where are all the women at? Our theories are as varied as they are multiple.

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Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.
Read: 'Her life had just begun.' Bianca Jones' father has spoken.
Read: Six people have died after drinking alcohol in Laos. But what is methanol poisoning?
Read: Ariana Grande has a suspicion about Glinda's character in Wicked, but some fans disagree.
Read: Nicole Kidman's iconic divorce photo is a lie.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

They're the girls whose names and images have been on every screen and hovering in every conversation around Australia over the last few days. So, exactly what happened to Bianca Jones and Holly Bowles? And how?  
Plus, Nicole Kidman is an enigma wrapped in a riddle — is that happy divorce pap shot REALLY fake, as she says now, and why is there so much chat about how much she works? What's the real deal here about one of Australia's biggest Hollywood stars?
And, Heath Ledger, Jacob Elordi, Timothée Chalamet, Dev Patel, Paul Mescal, Harry Styles… No, it’s not a fantasy football team, they’re all men who are the subject of super-cool celebrity lookalike contests. But where are all the women at? Our theories are as varied as they are multiple.
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<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-reason-we-are-so-bored">What Every Woman Needs To Hear From Her Ex</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/sexless-marriage-dilemma/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">"We Can See You... Could You Not?"</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/protective-hag-era">The Influencer Family We Can’t Talk About</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/glimmers-pockets-of-joy/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Dopamine Diets, Glimmers &amp; Pockets of Joy</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/bridget-jones-new-movie">Horny Midlife Women &amp; The Sexiest Man Alive</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts </a></li>
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<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mamamia-out-loud-live-tickets/">Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/australian-teenagers-methanol-poisoning/">'Her life had just begun.' Bianca Jones' father has spoken.</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mia-freedman-fashion-resolutions/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"></a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/parenting-rules-erin-huckle"></a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/what-is-methanol-poisoning">Six people have died after drinking alcohol in Laos. But what is methanol poisoning?</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/wicked-movie-gossip/">Ariana Grande has a suspicion about Glinda's character in Wicked, but some fans disagree.</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/nicole-kidman-divorce-meme">Nicole Kidman's iconic divorce photo is a lie.</a></li>
</ul>
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at <a href="mailto:outloud@mamamia.com.au">outloud@mamamia.com.au</a>
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! <a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-stringify-link="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Send us a voice message</a>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman &amp; Jessie Stephens 
Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Production: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

The Lie Nicole Kidman Still Has To Tell

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Oh Outlouders, you are going to be a very happy lot because you, friends, have a little treat coming your way today. 

You might have heard of one Jessie Stephens. Our very own clever clogs, author, multiple podcast host and mum is this week's special guest on Mamamia's podcast Seize The Yay, hosted by Sarah Davidson. 

This is your chance to listen in as Jessie and Sarah chat about careers, spill all the behind-the-scenes gossip from Mamamia where Jessie's media career began, and examine the never-ending juggle working parents face. So. Much. Goodness.

It's a really good listen so put your earphones in and enjoy!

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Listen to Mamamia Out Loud 

More episodes of Seize The Yay 

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Subscribe to not miss out on the next instalment of YAY!

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Get $30 off a Mamamia subscription and get unlimited access to our feel-good exercise app. Head here to get a yearly subscription for just $39. 

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Oh Outlouders, you are going to be a very happy lot because you, friends, have a little treat coming your way today. 
You might have heard of one Jessie Stephens. Our very own clever clogs, author, multiple podcast host and mum is this week's special guest on Mamamia's podcast Seize The Yay, hosted by Sarah Davidson. 
This is your chance to listen in as Jessie and Sarah chat about careers, spill all the behind-the-scenes gossip from Mamamia where Jessie's media career began, and examine the never-ending juggle working parents face. So. Much. Goodness.
It's a really good listen so put your earphones in and enjoy!
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Support independent women's media</a>
The End Bits: 
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/">Listen to Mamamia Out Loud </a>
More episodes of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/seize-the-yay/id1437134631">Seize The Yay </a>
Announcements on Insta at <a href="http://instagram.com/spoonful_of_sarah">@spoonful_of_sarah</a> Join our Facebook community <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1Ahiow9GaG/">here</a> Subscribe to not miss out on the next instalment of YAY!
Join the Month of MOVE
Get $30 off a Mamamia subscription and get unlimited access to our feel-good exercise app.<a href="https://move.mamamia.com.au/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;code=MONTHOFOUTLOUD"> Head here to get a yearly subscription for just $39. </a>
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Little Treat: Jessie Stephens On 'Seize The Yay' 

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There’s never been more in life to distract us, but we’re more bored than ever before. We unpack why we’re all so damn bored… and whether or not it’s a good thing.

Plus, our recommendations, including some funny women talking about Holly’s favourite subject, a new podcast baby in our family and a TV show to watch this weekend. 

And a formal apology from Holly, Mia’s new nana name (with a sprinkle of surprise beef) and Jessie’s juicy Saturday night encounter - it’s best and worst.

Support independent women's media

What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: "We Can See You... Could You Not?"
Listen: We’ve Got The Ick
Listen: Dopamine Diets, Glimmers & Pockets of Joy
Listen: Horny Midlife Women & The Sexiest Man Alive
Listen: We're Ready To Share Our D*ckhead List
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Recommendations: 

Mia wants you to listen to Diary Of A Birth 

Jessie wants you to watch Bad Sisters

Holly wants you to listen tothe Avant Gardeners Podcast 

The End Bits: 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

Join the Month of MOVE

Get $30 off a Mamamia subscription and get unlimited access to our feel-good exercise app. Head here to get a yearly subscription for just $39. 

What To Read: 
Read: MIA FREEDMAN: '7 things I stopped wearing in 2024.'
Read: We've been getting 'the ick' for forever. But now it's gone too far.
Read: ‘Let them be bored.’ A mum of 3 shares her Five Golden Rules for parenting.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

There’s never been more in life to distract us, but we’re more bored than ever before. We unpack why we’re all so damn bored… and whether or not it’s a good thing.
Plus, our recommendations, including some funny women talking about Holly’s favourite subject, a new podcast baby in our family and a TV show to watch this weekend. 
And a formal apology from Holly, Mia’s new nana name (with a sprinkle of surprise beef) and Jessie’s juicy Saturday night encounter - it’s best and worst.
<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Support independent women's media</a>
What To Listen To Next: 
<ul>
<li>Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/sexless-marriage-dilemma/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">"We Can See You... Could You Not?"</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/relationship-and-friendship-icks/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">We’ve Got The Ick</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/glimmers-pockets-of-joy/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Dopamine Diets, Glimmers &amp; Pockets of Joy</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/bridget-jones-new-movie">Horny Midlife Women &amp; The Sexiest Man Alive</a></li>
<li>Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/writing-a-dickhead-list">We're Ready To Share Our D*ckhead List</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts </a></li>
</ul>
Recommendations: 
Mia wants you to listen to <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/diary-of-a-birth/">Diary Of A Birth </a>
Jessie wants you to watch <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Ftv.apple.com%2Fau%2Fshow%2Fbad-sisters%2Fumc.cmc.14kr4vv65unannh7doqgvlh20">Bad Sisters</a>
Holly wants you to listen to the <a href="https://go.skimresources.com?id=53410X1291869&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fau%2Fpodcast%2Favant-gardeners%2Fid1706222604">Avant Gardeners Podcast </a>
The End Bits: 
Sign up to the <a href="https://mamamiaoutloud.substack.com/">Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter </a>for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 
Join the Month of MOVE
Get $30 off a Mamamia subscription and get unlimited access to our feel-good exercise app.<a href="https://move.mamamia.com.au/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol&amp;code=MONTHOFOUTLOUD"> Head here to get a yearly subscription for just $39. </a>
What To Read: 
<ul>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/mia-freedman-fashion-resolutions/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">MIA FREEDMAN: '7 things I stopped wearing in 2024.'</a></li>
<li>Read: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/what-does-getting-the-ick-mean">We've been getting 'the ick' for forever. But now it's gone too far.</a></li>
<li>Read:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/parenting-rules-erin-huckle"> ‘Let them be bored.’ A mum of 3 shares her Five Golden Rules for parenting.</a></li>
</ul>
GET IN TOUCH:
Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at <a href="mailto:outloud@mamamia.com.au">outloud@mamamia.com.au</a>
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! <a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-stringify-link="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960" data-sk="tooltip_parent">Send us a voice message</a>
Join our Facebook group <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/outlouders">Mamamia Outlouders</a> to talk about the show.
Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mamamiaoutloud/?hl=en">@mamamiaoutloud</a>
CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman &amp; Jessie Stephens 
Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Audio Production: Leah Porges
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

What Every Woman Needs To Hear From Her Ex

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