The day has finally arrived! Holly’s new book, The Couple Upstairs, is officially out in the world. Mia and Jessie got to read it first, so in this special bonus episode, hear them debrief with Holly about all their feelings and questions. Plus, Holly reads the entire first chapter of The Couple Upstairs, just for Outlouders.

The Couple Upstairs by Holly Wainwright is available in all good bookstores and online now.

The day has finally arrived! Holly’s new book, The Couple Upstairs, is officially out in the world. Mia and Jessie got to read it first, so in this special bonus episode, hear them debrief with Holly about all their feelings and questions. Plus, Holly reads the entire first chapter of The Couple Upstairs, just for Outlouders.
The Couple Upstairs by Holly Wainwright is available in all good bookstores and <a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-couple-upstairs-holly-wainwright/book/9781760980061.html?source=pla&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwx7GYBhB7EiwA0d8oe7Le8vm0YX1sSJ_WRRzk_KTB6Y4l8OvtIu5ToUBZO-cM8LY1M3GXzBoCF9AQAvD_BwE">online now.</a>

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

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BONUS: Mia & Jessie Grill Holly About The Couple Upstairs

Are Aussies anti bush? Not the former president, the bikini kind. A viral essay asked why nobody blinked when a writer wore hers to the beach, and Em wants to know whether Australia is culturally anti-bush while America is having a big bush renaissance (a bush-enaissance if you allow). 

Would you post about it if your partner killed the family pet? A well-known content creator told her 1.8 million followers that her husband had killed the injured bird they were nursing back to health, and the internet unanimously said the same thing: leave him. But is it actually that simple, or is there a difference between the line you'd draw with your partner and the line you'd draw with a friend?

Plus, one of the biggest names on the internet has just quietly ended a show she's been running for 12 years, and Em thinks she's stopped too soon.

And therapy is over-rated! Why none of us are having it at the moment and what we’re doing instead.

If this episode brings up anything for you, or if you or someone you know needs support, please reach out to the following services:


1800RESPECT: Call 1800 737 732 or visit 1800respect.org.au for free, confidential 24/7 National Sexual Assault, Domestic, and Family Violence Counselling.


Emergency Services: If you are in immediate danger, please call 000.

And, because it's Friday, our best recommendations for your weekend:
Holly recommends The Unleashed episode with Ginni on voluntary assisted dying
Em recommends a leather journal from Milligram, plus their $15 ruled notebooks if you're just starting out
Mia recommends The Ultimatum: Queer Love, both seasons, now streaming in full on Netflix

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'These are the 5 winter hobbies I'm obsessed with for under $50.'
'I'm a psychologist. This is the one thing you should never do in therapy.'
HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: ‘I desperately needed to find some calm… So I read one very particular book and I got a hobby.’

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Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Emily Vernem

Group Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit

Video Producer: Josh Green

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. 

Are Aussies anti bush? Not the former president, the bikini kind. A viral essay asked why nobody blinked when a writer wore hers to the beach, and Em wants to know whether Australia is culturally anti-bush while America is having a big bush renaissance (a bush-enaissance if you allow).&nbsp;
Would you post about it if your partner killed the family pet? A well-known content creator told her 1.8 million followers that her husband had killed the injured bird they were nursing back to health, and the internet unanimously said the same thing: leave him. But is it actually that simple, or is there a difference between the line you'd draw with your partner and the line you'd draw with a friend?
Plus, one of the biggest names on the internet has just quietly ended a show she's been running for 12 years, and Em thinks she's stopped too soon.
And therapy is over-rated! Why none of us are having it at the moment and what we&rsquo;re doing instead.
If this episode brings up anything for you, or if you or someone you know needs support, please reach out to the following services:
<ul data-path-to-node="9,2">
<li>
1800RESPECT: Call 1800 737 732 or visit <a href="https://www.1800respect.org.au">1800respect.org.au</a> for free, confidential 24/7 National Sexual Assault, Domestic, and Family Violence Counselling.
</li>
<li>
Emergency Services: If you are in immediate danger, please call 000.
</li>
</ul>
And, because it's Friday, our best recommendations for your weekend:
<ul>
<li dir="ltr">Holly recommends <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/i-know-the-day-my-mum-is-going-to-die-ginnis-story-part-1/id1868862473?i=1000787911648">The Unleashed episode with Ginni on voluntary assisted dying</a></li>
<li>Em recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4zYxxzM">a leather journal from Milligram</a>, plus their $15 ruled notebooks if you're just starting out</li>
<li>Mia recommends <a href="https://fave.co/4hkTHov">The Ultimatum: Queer Love</a>, both seasons, now streaming in full on Netflix</li>
</ul>
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> today. You hot? Same.
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/winter-hobbies-under-50-dollars/">'These are the 5 winter hobbies I'm obsessed with for under $50.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/questions-to-ask-in-therapy/">'I'm a psychologist. This is the one thing you should never do in therapy.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/growing-a-veggie-patch/">HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: &lsquo;I desperately needed to find some calm&hellip; So I read one very particular book and I got a hobby.&rsquo;</a></li>
</ul>
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.&nbsp;

Why We All Quit Therapy & When The Internet Says ‘Leave Him’

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The algorithm has been serving you the word 'algorithm' all week and we explain why. Is your feed about to change forever?

Why aren't women allowed to break script and say they feel relief when their kids leave home? One very famous Gen X icon did and Mia and Holly have thoughts.

Why would a woman about to go to jail invite a controversial documentary maker into her home for a month? Jessie unpacks the Elizabeth Holmes news.

And can two people who hated each other for fifteen years really just... go back to normal? Apparently a quarter of all siblings are estranged at some point and Liam and Noel Gallagher might just have a message for Princes William and Harry.

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Listen: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
Listen: Gwyneth’s Dinner Party Disaster & Tom Cruise’s New Love Interest
Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy & Holly’s Surprising Harry Take
Listen: What Mia Didn’t Know About Jessie’s Postpartum
Listen: The Names In Nicole Kidman’s Freezer & It's Time To Talk About Choking
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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'I watched Louis Theroux's new documentary. The real problem isn't who you think.'
The question nobody asked before the social media ban.
Michelle Obama's daughters 'tested limits' as teens. She feared life in the White House messed them up.
'This new trailer is the most unsettling thing I've ever watched.'

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

The algorithm has been serving you the word 'algorithm' all week and we explain why. Is your feed about to change forever? Why aren't women allowed to break script and say they feel relief when their kids leave home? One very famous Gen X icon did and Mia and Holly have thoughts. Why would a woman about to go to jail invite a controversial documentary maker into her home for a month? Jessie unpacks the Elizabeth Holmes news. And can two people who hated each other for fifteen years really just... go back to normal? Apparently a quarter of all siblings are estranged at some point and Liam and Noel Gallagher might just have a message for Princes William and Harry.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> today. You hot? Same.
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to The Quicky's latest episode:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/your-am-headlines-1/">Algorithms: Will You Opt In Or Out?&nbsp;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/raygun-and-the-confidence-question/">Raygun And The Confidence Question</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/tom-cruise-nicole-kidman-divorce/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Gwyneth&rsquo;s Dinner Party Disaster &amp; Tom Cruise&rsquo;s New Love Interest</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-documentary/">'This new trailer is the most unsettling thing I've ever watched.'</a></li>
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You Can't Say That About Your Kids & The Infamous Woman We Just Don't Believe

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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Holly Wainwright, Emily Vernem & the latest addition to the group chat, Keeshia Pettit on our subscriber-only episode. You can listen to the full conversation here: The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter & Alix Vs Alex

King Charles has sent a very formal letter about Prince Harry's return to Britain — and it's basically him telling the whole world that nothing has changed. Harry's still not part of the royal family. 

Plus, Alix Earle's new Netflix show is finally addressing the very public feud with another famous Alex, Call Her Daddy host Alex Cooper. It turns out there's something more serious behind this 'celebrity' drama.

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: Raygun And The Confidence Question
Listen: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
Listen: Gwyneth’s Dinner Party Disaster & Tom Cruise’s New Love Interest
Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy & Holly’s Surprising Harry Take
Listen: What Mia Didn’t Know About Jessie’s Postpartum
Listen: The Names In Nicole Kidman’s Freezer & It's Time To Talk About Choking
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at outloud@mamamia.com.au

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What to read: 
These two women had a very public fallout. We're now learning what happened.
King Charles just released a pointed letter about Harry and Meghan. It makes one thing very clear.
'I spent a morning with Prince Harry. It wasn't at all like I expected.'

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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Holly Wainwright, Emily Vernem &amp; the latest addition to the group chat, Keeshia Pettit on our subscriber-only episode. You can listen to the full conversation here:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-the-kings-harry-letter-alix-vs-alex?utm_medium=shownotes&amp;utm_campaign=podcast&amp;utm_content=subs-teaser">The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter &amp; Alix Vs Alex</a> King Charles has sent a very formal letter about Prince Harry's return to Britain &mdash; and it's basically him telling the whole world that nothing has changed. Harry's still not part of the royal family.&nbsp;
Plus, Alix Earle's new Netflix show is finally addressing the very public feud with another famous Alex, Call Her Daddy host Alex Cooper. It turns out there's something more serious behind this 'celebrity' drama.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> today. You hot? Same.
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<ul>
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