Whether you love The Bachelorette, or love to hate it, join Monique Bowley, Jo Robin and Lizzie Marton for some Bach Chat. This recap of season 1 episode 4 has the highlights, the lowlights, and a wholesome game of Kill, Marry, F**k.

 

Whether you love The Bachelorette, or love to hate it, join Monique Bowley, Jo Robin and Lizzie Marton for some Bach Chat.&nbsp;This recap of season 1 episode 4 has&nbsp;the highlights, the lowlights, and a wholesome game of Kill, Marry, F**k.
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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

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BONUS EP: Bach Chat.  The Bachelorette Recap, Season 1 ep 4.

Among the tributes to a legend, one Gloria Steinem quote is landing hard for a generation of millennial women. So, Holly wants to discuss, are we still “living the unlived lives of our mothers?” or do we now almost envy the lives they got to lead?

Plus, Jessie wants to tell us about a $800 toothbrush with its own onboard camera and an AI opinion about your gums, and she is worryingly into it.

And, Amelia has watched Netflix's new Raygun documentary and wants to know if you can actually have TOO much self belief? 

Plus: The Australian sporting moment you can’t watch without crying. And, the much-discussed US murder trial of LIndsay Clancy has been declared a mistrial. What happens now?

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What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
Listen: Gwyneth’s Dinner Party Disaster & Tom Cruise’s New Love Interest
Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy & Holly’s Surprising Harry Take
Listen: What Mia Didn’t Know About Jessie’s Postpartum
Listen: The Names In Nicole Kidman’s Freezer & It's Time To Talk About Choking
Listen: The Blindside Divorce & Everything Is Embarrassing
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What to read: 
After the Olympics, the internet hated Raygun. She just answered the one question everyone was asking.
Before she went viral at the Olympics, breakdancer Raygun was 'locked in a room crying'.
A mistrial has officially been declared in the Lindsay Clancy case.
We're watching the 'world's saddest murder trial' unfold. It feels startlingly familiar.
Jai Arrow had just welcomed his daughter when he noticed something strange with his arm.
Feminist icon Gloria Steinem has died, aged 92.

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Among the tributes to a legend, one Gloria Steinem quote is landing hard for a generation of millennial women. So, Holly wants to discuss, are we still &ldquo;living the unlived lives of our mothers?&rdquo; or do we now almost envy the lives they got to lead?
Plus, Jessie wants to tell us about a $800 toothbrush with its own onboard camera and an AI opinion about your gums, and she is worryingly into it.
And, Amelia has watched Netflix's new Raygun documentary and wants to know if you can actually have TOO much self belief?&nbsp;
Plus: The Australian sporting moment you can&rsquo;t watch without crying. And, the much-discussed US murder trial of LIndsay Clancy has been declared a mistrial. What happens now?
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> today. You hot? Same.
What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/why-your-house-needs-a-dirty-zone/">Your House Needs A Dirty Zone &amp; Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/tom-cruise-nicole-kidman-divorce/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Gwyneth&rsquo;s Dinner Party Disaster &amp; Tom Cruise&rsquo;s New Love Interest</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/lindsay-clancy-verdict/">The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy &amp; Holly&rsquo;s Surprising Harry Take</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jessie-stephens-postpartum/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">What Mia Didn&rsquo;t Know About Jessie&rsquo;s Postpartum</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-names-in-nicole-kidman-s-freezer-its-time-to-talk-about-choking/">The Names In Nicole Kidman&rsquo;s Freezer &amp; It's Time To Talk About Choking</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/blindside-divorce/">The Blindside Divorce &amp; Everything Is Embarrassing</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/sydney-swans-aftermath-royal-return/"></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts&nbsp;</a></li>
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<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/untold-raygun-breaking-badly-netflix/">After the Olympics, the internet hated Raygun. She just answered the one question everyone was asking.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/raygun-breaking-olympics/">Before she went viral at the Olympics, breakdancer Raygun was 'locked in a room crying'.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/lindsay-clancy-trial-updates/">A mistrial has officially been declared in the Lindsay Clancy case.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/lindsay-clancy-postpartum-psychosistrial/">We're watching the 'world's saddest murder trial' unfold. It feels startlingly familiar.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/jai-arrow-motor-neurone/">Jai Arrow had just welcomed his daughter when he noticed something strange with his arm.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/gloria-steinem-death/">Feminist icon Gloria Steinem has died, aged 92.</a></li>
</ul>
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Raygun And The Confidence Question

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Jessie Stephens, co-host of Mamamia Out Loud and bestselling author, sits down with Kate Langbroek for a completely candid conversation about the last six months of her life. Ten weeks early, on the day she finished up for maternity leave, Jessie gave birth to twins Margot and Harry, while at home raising her toddler daughter, Luna.

Jessie opens up about something she's never spoken about publicly before, a moment in NICU when she found herself in what she describes as "a really dark place." She also talks about growing up an identical twin, falling for her now husband Luca while they worked together, and building a marriage and family and a career when it's all intertwined.

Jessie will be back on Mamamia Out Loud in September.

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CREDITS:

Guest: Jessie Stephens

Host: Kate Langbroek

Executive Producer: Bree Player

Audio and Video Producer: Julian Rosario

Content and Social Producer: Jess Chan

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Jessie Stephens, co-host of Mamamia Out Loud and bestselling author, sits down with Kate Langbroek for a completely candid conversation about the last six months of her life. Ten weeks early, on the day she finished up for maternity leave, Jessie gave birth to twins Margot and Harry, while at home raising her toddler daughter, Luna.
Jessie opens up about something she's never spoken about publicly before, a moment in NICU when she found herself in what she describes as "a really dark place." She also talks about growing up an identical twin, falling for her now husband Luca while they worked together, and building a marriage and family and a career when it's all intertwined.
Jessie will be back on <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/">Mamamia Out Loud</a> in September.
Want to listen before everyone else?
Mamamia subscribers get exclusive early access to No Filter from 6am every Saturday, a full two days before regular listeners.<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/"> Click here to subscribe now</a>.
What To Listen To Next:
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<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/sophie-delezio-survivor-mum-advocate/">Sophie Delezio Wouldn&rsquo;t Change A Thing</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/liane-moriarty-big-little-lies-sequel-meryl-streep/">Liane Moriarty Was Terrified To Write A Big Little Lies Sequel. She Did It Anyway.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/harriet-dyer-colin-from-accounts-patrick-brammall-no-filter/">Harriet Dyer: "It Should Have Been A Dealbreaker. I Chose Him Anyway"</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/amy-shark-soft-pop-burnout-music-career-no-filter/">Amy Shark: &ldquo;There&rsquo;s No Way I Should&rsquo;ve Made It&rdquo;</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/everyone-talking-about-rosie-odonnell-conversation-explains-why/">Everyone's Talking About Rosie O'Donnell. This Conversation Explains Why</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/dave-hughsey-hughes-i-have-been-a-narcissist-most-of-my-life/">Dave 'Hughesy' Hughes: "I Have Been a Narcissist Most of My Life"</a></li>
</ul>
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see.&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/no-filter/id995159486">CLICK HERE.</a>&nbsp;
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> and join me today. You hot? Same. Buy today and save 40%
Discover more<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/"> Mamamia Podcasts here</a>.
Want to listen before everyone else?
Mamamia subscribers get exclusive early access to No Filter from 6am every Saturday, a full two days before regular listeners.<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/"> Click here to subscribe now</a>.
Watch No Filter on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NoFilterpod/videos"> YouTube</a>. Follow us on Instagram<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nofiltermamamia/"> here.</a> Follow us on TikTok<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nofiltermamamia"> here</a>.&nbsp;
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Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review.
CREDITS:
Guest: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Db2xiogktoJ/">Jessie Stephens</a>
Host: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katelangbroek/?hl=en">Kate Langbroek</a>
Executive Producer:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/breeplayer/?hl=en"> Bree Player</a>
Audio and Video Producer: Julian Rosario
Content and Social Producer: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jeschann">Jess Chan</a>
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

NO FILTER: "I Went to a Really Dark Place": Jessie Stephens on the Six Months Nobody Saw

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Your house needs a “dirty zone”.  Which, let’s face it, is just as well. 

Also, is there such a thing as living too long? Jessie Stephens wants to take on the longevity craze and unpack this dangerous idea, after seeing Lucinda Holdforth speak.

Plus, Holly Wainwright blames Harry Styles for the fact that running has become the coolest hobby there is, Jessie has a theory about marathon runners and Em thinks there’s a very strict rule about how long they can wear their medals.

And, a marathon (ouch) of recommendations, friends: 

Em recommendsa water filter jug from Kmart. 

Jessie recommends A LOT — The Things We Never Say by Elizabeth Strout, The Traitors Australia, and Silk Pillowcases. Also Love Island.   

Holly recommends My Brilliant Career on Netflix.

Keen for more? Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to The Quicky: Your AM Headlines + Are Australians Living Too Long?
Listen to our latest episode: Gwyneth’s Dinner Party Disaster & Tom Cruise’s New Love Interest
Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy & Holly’s Surprising Harry Take
Listen: What Mia Didn’t Know About Jessie’s Postpartum
Listen: The Names In Nicole Kidman’s Freezer & It's Time To Talk About Choking
Listen: The Blindside Divorce & Everything Is Embarrassing
Listen: Taylor's Missing Dress & The Best Friend Curse
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 
'I knew the exact minute my mum would take her last breath. I thought that would be the hardest part.'
'At 21, I realised I was terminal. At 26, I'm choosing to die on my own terms.'
What is lactose and what role does it play in the gut?
'The best reality show of 2025 was one you probably missed.'

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

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Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Emily Vernem

Group Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray

Video Producer: Josh Green

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Your house needs a &ldquo;dirty zone&rdquo;.&nbsp; Which, let&rsquo;s face it, is just as well.&nbsp;
Also, is there such a thing as living too long? Jessie Stephens wants to take on the longevity craze and unpack this dangerous idea, after seeing Lucinda Holdforth speak.
Plus, Holly Wainwright blames Harry Styles for the fact that running has become the coolest hobby there is, Jessie has a theory about marathon runners and Em thinks there&rsquo;s a very strict rule about how long they can wear their medals.
And, a marathon (ouch) of recommendations, friends:&nbsp;
Em recommends a <a href="https://fave.co/4gTqQq1">water filter jug</a> from Kmart.&nbsp;
Jessie recommends A LOT &mdash; <a href="https://fave.co/4zZppiI">The Things We Never Say</a> by Elizabeth Strout, <a href="https://10.com.au/the-traitors">The Traitors Australia</a>, and <a href="https://fave.co/4627A4P">Silk Pillowcases</a>. Also Love Island.&nbsp; &nbsp;
Holly recommends <a href="https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81655060">My Brilliant Career</a> on Netflix.
Keen for more? Check out the&nbsp;<a href="https://substack.com/@mamamiaoutloud">Mamamia Out Loud newsletter</a>.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> today. You hot? Same.
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to The Quicky: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-quicky/tq-tuesday-01092026/">Your AM Headlines + Are Australians Living Too Long?</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/tom-cruise-nicole-kidman-divorce/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Gwyneth&rsquo;s Dinner Party Disaster &amp; Tom Cruise&rsquo;s New Love Interest</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/lindsay-clancy-verdict/">The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy &amp; Holly&rsquo;s Surprising Harry Take</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jessie-stephens-postpartum/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">What Mia Didn&rsquo;t Know About Jessie&rsquo;s Postpartum</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-names-in-nicole-kidman-s-freezer-its-time-to-talk-about-choking/">The Names In Nicole Kidman&rsquo;s Freezer &amp; It's Time To Talk About Choking</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/blindside-divorce/">The Blindside Divorce &amp; Everything Is Embarrassing</a></li>
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</ul>
Discover more <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">Mamamia Podcasts here </a>including the very latest episode of <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/">Parenting Out Loud</a>, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/losing-mum-voluntary-assisted-dying/">'I knew the exact minute my mum would take her last breath. I thought that would be the hardest part.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/annaliese-holland/">'At 21, I realised I was terminal. At 26, I'm choosing to die on my own terms.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/symptoms-of-lactose-intolerance/">What is lactose and what role does it play in the gut?</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/celebrity-traitors-uk-2025/">'The best reality show of 2025 was one you probably missed.'</a></li>
</ul>
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