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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation &mdash; with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It&rsquo;s conversation at its most addictive.

A weekly podcast that's smart, often silly and sometimes surprising.

Mamamia Out Loud

BONUS: Correspondence #2

Em Vernem changes the books on her shelf every time a date comes over. Margaret Atwood goes front and centre. So does a novel she hasn't actually read. Today Jessie Stephens wants to know how we're all arranging our books, and why a fantasy series coming out two centimetres taller has sent Em into a full meltdown. 

Plus, Holly Wainwright asks whether there's any such thing as guilt-free reality TV, after Celebrity Traitors UK ended under a duty of care cloud. 

Also, Em explains how a 20-year-old just became Formula One world champion and why his teammate went silent on the radio.

And for our recommendations, Jessie has cheated on us with another podcast, Holly watched a horror movie on purpose, and Em has a dip worth taking to a party.

Plus, Holly has a new book coming out! You can pre order her book here.

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Recommendations

Em recommendsthe snack the 3 Layer nacho dip and if you can't find it to make your own.  

Jessie recommends her brand new podcast, Lazy Girl Hour.

Holly recommends Backrooms and to preorder her upcoming book, What I Did To Deserve You.

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What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: Everything Jessie Stephens Did Before Getting To Work
Listen: Craig Silvey Pleaded Guilty. Then Published A 9000-Word ‘Apology’.
Listen: Kristen, Dax & Nobody Wants This
Listen: Jennifer Lawrence’s ‘Hot Mum’ Rebrand & The 3-Day Panic You Can Ignore
Listen: Love Gap Relationships & It Started With An Argument About A Dish Rack
Listen: So What For Aussies If Trump "Loses" Next Week? Allow Us To Explain.
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What to read: 
'I'm the friend people come to for book recs. These are the 9 books I tell everyone to read.'
HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'My days have been a bit sh*t lately. This book is helping.'
Rainbow books and random piles: 14 women share how they style their bookcases.
'I just finished reading the new ACOTAR book. Here are my very honest thoughts.'
'The best reality show of 2025 was one you probably missed.'

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Emily Vernem

Acting Group Executive Producer: Georgie Page

Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit

Video Producer: Matt Perry

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Em Vernem changes the books on her shelf every time a date comes over. Margaret Atwood goes front and centre. So does a novel she hasn't actually read. Today Jessie Stephens wants to know how we're all arranging our books, and why a fantasy series coming out two centimetres taller has sent Em into a full meltdown. Plus, Holly Wainwright asks whether there's any such thing as guilt-free reality TV, after Celebrity Traitors UK ended under a duty of care cloud. Also, Em explains how a 20-year-old just became Formula One world champion and why his teammate went silent on the radio. And for our recommendations, Jessie has cheated on us with another podcast, Holly watched a horror movie on purpose, and Em has a dip worth taking to a party. Plus, Holly has a new book coming out!&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hollywainwright.com/preorder">You can pre order her book here</a>.
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Recommendations
Em recommends the snack the<a href="https://www.coles.com.au/product/fifya-heavenly-dip-nachos-250g-3914126"> 3 Layer nacho dip</a> and if you can't find it to make your own.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Jessie recommends her brand new podcast, <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/lazy-girl-hour/clares-birth-story-and-what-happens-when-you-get-a-new-face/">Lazy Girl Hour.</a>
Holly recommends <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HjdiohVOik">Backrooms</a>&nbsp;and to preorder her upcoming book, <a href="https://www.bigw.com.au/product/what-i-did-to-deserve-you-by-holly-wainwright/p/6101266?utm_source=google&amp;amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;amp;utm_id=21753682927&amp;amp;utm_campaign=BIG+W+%7C+Play+%7C+PMax+%7C+Books&amp;amp;utm_term=&amp;amp;gclsrc=aw.ds&amp;amp;gad_source=1&amp;amp;gad_campaignid=21753684868&amp;amp;gbraid=0AAAAADkZkLiPxC3Y23g8nEw2tMqNMLyxv&amp;amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiA77DXBhCHARIsAHf2MNqDiKij2B3eG23MGJ2Szsjm4tXZ6WQxS6z0xsYCRlhMQfkCdkODcNEaAu6mEALw_wcB">What I Did To Deserve You</a>.
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What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/the-things-we-did-before-9am/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Everything Jessie Stephens Did Before Getting To Work</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/craig-silvey-9000-word-essay/">Craig Silvey Pleaded Guilty. Then Published A 9000-Word &lsquo;Apology&rsquo;.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/kristen-bell-dax-shepard-nobody-wants-this/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Kristen, Dax &amp; Nobody Wants This</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jennifer-lawrence-s-hot-mum-rebrand-the-3-day-panic-you-can-ignore/">Jennifer Lawrence&rsquo;s &lsquo;Hot Mum&rsquo; Rebrand &amp; The 3-Day Panic You Can Ignore</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/love-gap-relationships-zendaya-tom-holland/">Love Gap Relationships &amp; It Started With An Argument About A Dish Rack</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-what-the-us-midterms-mean-for-you/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">So What For Aussies If Trump "Loses" Next Week? Allow Us To Explain.</a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-low-maintenance-friendship/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"></a></li>
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</ul>
Discover more <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/">Mamamia Podcasts here </a>including the very latest episode of <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/">Parenting Out Loud</a>, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/best-book-recommendations/">'I'm the friend people come to for book recs. These are the 9 books I tell everyone to read.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/out-loud-hosts-book-recommendations/">HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'My days have been a bit sh*t lately. This book is helping.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/bookshelf-ideas/">Rainbow books and random piles: 14 women share how they style their bookcases.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/a-court-of-splintered-harmony-review/">'I just finished reading the new ACOTAR book. Here are my very honest thoughts.'</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/celebrity-traitors-uk-2025/">'The best reality show of 2025 was one you probably missed.'</a></li>
</ul>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens &amp; Emily Vernem
Acting Group Executive Producer: Georgie Page
Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit
Video Producer: Matt Perry
Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

The TV Show That Was Fun Until It Wasn’t & The New Bookshelf Rule

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A blue wave just swept across America, with Democrats seizing both houses of Congress and flipping states like Texas and Kansas that haven’t voted that way in decades.

Our very own Amelia Lester joins The Quicky to unpack what it means for Trump’s final two years, from the Iran war to AI, and the voters who abandoned him. Plus, we meet the half-Aussie senator some are tipping as the Democrats’ best shot at the White House in 2028.

Subscribehere for 30% off your annual Mamamia subscription for Black Friday with code BLACK30. Code applied at the checkout. Offer ends November 30.

Women 30+, we want to hear from you! Take our quick 3-minute survey for your chance to win a $1,000 gift card. 

What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: Craig Silvey Pleaded Guilty. Then Published A 9000-Word ‘Apology’.
Listen: Kristen, Dax & Nobody Wants This
Listen: Jennifer Lawrence’s ‘Hot Mum’ Rebrand & The 3-Day Panic You Can Ignore
Listen: Love Gap Relationships & It Started With An Argument About A Dish Rack
Listen: So What For Aussies If Trump "Loses" Next Week? Allow Us To Explain.
Listen: "Am I A Bad Friend?" Our Team's Personal Dilemmas
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The most terrifying part of all of this.
For many young Australians, this election feels like hope.

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

A blue wave just swept across America, with Democrats seizing both houses of Congress and flipping states like Texas and Kansas that haven&rsquo;t voted that way in decades.
Our very own Amelia Lester joins The Quicky to unpack what it means for Trump&rsquo;s final two years, from the Iran war to AI, and the voters who abandoned him. Plus, we meet the half-Aussie senator some are tipping as the Democrats&rsquo; best shot at the White House in 2028.
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What To Listen To Next:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to our latest episode: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/craig-silvey-9000-word-essay/">Craig Silvey Pleaded Guilty. Then Published A 9000-Word &lsquo;Apology&rsquo;.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/kristen-bell-dax-shepard-nobody-wants-this/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">Kristen, Dax &amp; Nobody Wants This</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jennifer-lawrence-s-hot-mum-rebrand-the-3-day-panic-you-can-ignore/">Jennifer Lawrence&rsquo;s &lsquo;Hot Mum&rsquo; Rebrand &amp; The 3-Day Panic You Can Ignore</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/love-gap-relationships-zendaya-tom-holland/">Love Gap Relationships &amp; It Started With An Argument About A Dish Rack</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-what-the-us-midterms-mean-for-you/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol">So What For Aussies If Trump "Loses" Next Week? Allow Us To Explain.</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/thomas-markle-allegations-meghan-markle/"></a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/elon-musk-new-documentary?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"></a><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/susan-dell-internet-pile-on?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&amp;ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA">Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts</a></li>
</ul>
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to<a href="http://veryperi.com.au/"> veryperi.com.au</a> today. You hot? Same.
Check out the <a href="https://substack.com/@mamamiaoutloud">Mamamia Out Loud newsletter</a>.
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/how-women-feel-about-donald-trump/">The most terrifying part of all of this.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/election-young-people/">For many young Australians, this election feels like hope.</a></li>
</ul>
THE END BITS:&nbsp;
Check out our merch at<a href="https://www.mamamiaoutloud.com.au/store"> MamamiaOutLoud.com</a>
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Feedback? We&rsquo;re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

THE QUICKY: Amelia Lester On The Blue Wave

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Yesterday was a big day in Australia. You may or may not have known that it was the Melbourne Cup and there's a specific link between King Charles and Bec Judd that has them not as worried about the interest rates rise as the rest of us.

On Monday, author Craig Silvey was sentenced to seven months in prison. The same day, he published a 9,000-word ‘apology’ on Substack. We unpack what's in it, what's missing from it and how he was even able to publish it.

Plus, last year we were all told to ‘Let Them’. Now, a character on Nobody Wants This says we should ‘Make Them’. We ask why men and women are given such different self-help advice.

Also, Kim Kardashian's authorised biography is out, and Holly has a question: if someone wrote the story of your life, what would you make them take out? 

If you have experienced sexual assault and are in need of support, please call 1800 RESPECT on 1800 737 732. Help is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week. You can also contact Bravehearts for counselling and support for survivors of sexual abuse on 1800 272 831 and Lifeline for 24-hour crisis support and suicide prevention.

What To Listen To Next: 
Listen to our latest episode: Kristen, Dax & Nobody Wants This
Listen: Jennifer Lawrence’s ‘Hot Mum’ Rebrand & The 3-Day Panic You Can Ignore
Listen: Love Gap Relationships & It Started With An Argument About A Dish Rack
Listen: So What For Aussies If Trump "Loses" Next Week? Allow Us To Explain.
Listen: "Am I A Bad Friend?" Our Team's Personal Dilemmas
Listen: This Is Not A Frivolous Royal Story & Why Your Life Is Chaos Right Now
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What to read: 
Craig Silvey's behind some of Australia's favourite novels. He just pled guilty to child exploitation crimes.
The 'let them' theory has changed more than 2 million people's lives.
2025 was dominated by the Let Them Theory. 2026 will be Let Them Be Petty.
5 non-judgy self-help books to read to kick off 2024.

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GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

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Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Yesterday was a big day in Australia. You may or may not have known that it was the Melbourne Cup and there's a specific link between King Charles and Bec Judd that has them not as worried about the interest rates rise as the rest of us.
On Monday, author Craig Silvey was sentenced to seven months in prison. The same day, he published a 9,000-word &lsquo;apology&rsquo; on Substack. We unpack what's in it, what's missing from it and how he was even able to publish it.
Plus, last year we were all told to &lsquo;Let Them&rsquo;. Now, a character on Nobody Wants This says we should &lsquo;Make Them&rsquo;. We ask why men and women are given such different self-help advice. Also, Kim Kardashian's authorised biography is out, and Holly has a question: if someone wrote the story of your life, what would you make them take out?&nbsp;
If you have experienced sexual assault and are in need of support, please call&nbsp;<a href="https://www.1800respect.org.au/">1800 RESPECT</a>&nbsp;on 1800 737 732. Help is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week. You can also contact&nbsp;<a href="https://bravehearts.org.au/">Bravehearts</a> for counselling and support for survivors of sexual abuse on 1800 272 831 and <a href="http://www.lifeline.org.au/">Lifeline</a> for 24-hour crisis support and suicide prevention.
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