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Every Unpleasant Experience Is Not Trauma

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An Australian court has branded a seemingly untouchable Australian 'hero' a war criminal. What do we need to understand about what just happened with Ben Roberts Smith?  

Plus, a viral ‘pop psychology’ explainer has struck a nerve with us all, for different reasons. Who are we really mad at? 

And, our best and worst of the week ranging from an unpopular opinion about a long-awaited finale to travel plans and a dog update.

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Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, and Jessie Stephens

Producer: Susannah Makin

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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