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Absolutely, I'm really excited about this. This is a this is a great day. This is a great episode. Um god, this guest, what a fucking I don't think I saw you know what? She laughs in her chair, But there was not a more iconic image than her floating on that fucking pretzel. And you knew it, and you knew and you knew it. You were siling. We're musling her now, but she's going to speak to this later, you guys. She's um the writer, creator, executive producer, star of Crazy Ex Girlfriend, Golden Globe Award winning t c A Award winning and you know what, I think the t c A is is a gag. I love the t c A because and we'll get into it, but listen, come on, come on, give it up. It's Rachel Bloom. Rachel, do you you fucking knew what you were doing with that pretzel? Um? Yeah? And you know who else did is Mark Webb, who directed it. He was like, that pretzel is going to be iconic, and then but then we might here we go give it. Right before I started this, you have to know, it's been a long day and I got stuck on the our train and I got here and demanded food from Ronnie. But in such a great Ronnie is our new tech. Everyone little taps for Ronnie and he looks amazing and what I believe to be sembre and Ronnie is paying tribute to the new divas. Ronnie was playing some Carlyon Charlie Xacs Grimes, Kalani, Ronnie, did you do that on purpose? Was your playlist on purpose? Because you knew there were some gays coming in here? You know what? You have great tastes, Grimes a diva. I mean, you know, we can't even refer to Carly Ridge as I'll quote Gloria steff On here. She said this at the seven, She goes, you know, I don't belong up here. If anything, I'm a divette Rachel, would you would you just scarf down like some toast toast and almond butter. It was good, but now my stomach is like it actually has things to process. So the gases are coming up, and which is fine, the iconic gases, which ties back into the food that she rode into our hearts on. Yeah. The pretzel also, so Mark Webb, who directed that, was like, we need to make the pretzel look amazing, and that whole thing costs like a ton of money. Um, And then when they tested the pilot, like the dials went slightly down during the West Covina number, which like broke Mark's heart because I think, look, when you test a show, it's random people coming in. You don't know what they're about to watch. So when they were like, ah, fuck, this is a musical from it's like, yeah, it is getting get on board. Also, I thought potentially it went down because people didn't like image of a pretzel. So that's like I thought that could have been it. Or was it that you stepped out of the car and then the dial went down just the whole the second the musical number. Well, the thing is those people, I'm willing to say those people don't matter. Well. But then on the flip side, like once they were used to the music, they were like all right, this is a musical. Uh. And there was apparently live this like Big I wasn't allowed to be at the testing because they didn't want actors there, but it was apparently this like big biker dude who they were like going around asking like what they liked about the show. This is when we were still a showtime and the biker who was like, she's on a journey. He gets it, he gets it. Yeah, Joseph Campbell. He mentioned George Joseph Campbell's I rewatched the pilot recently. It is so incredible. Um, it's great, and I fucking love the show. I want to say this season finale is I think, come on, not even being hyperbolic, I think it's my favorite season finale of anything. Wow, thank you. I mean it was great because it really it got it did what a season finale should do, which is like it tied up enough and then it gave you so much more to look forward to, because now you know, we're getting the new iteration of crazy exc Yes, Oh my god, you guys, you guys get it so hard. My co creator lean Brush McKenna, who's brilliant, wrote the Devil Worse product. Come on, We've praised that on this show many times, voted about a fourth of the movie. She's she's she's amazing. And I get to say being a boss. Now, being a boss makes you feel for Miranda Priestley, the one line of details of your incompetence do not interest me. That's yeah, I mean I really feel that. And I've told her that and she's like, oh yeah, like you sympathize with Miranda when you're a boss, and those are all things that I could picture Elene is uh. Some of the things Miranda says are like things I was walking through work today and the like, and we're doing this like spring campaign that has florals, and just what popps into my head was force for spraying ground break. Elena has a pillow in her office that says that by all means move at a glacial paste. There's so much. Also, I must meet her one day because I have to ask her, like if the that's all was because we were talking about Meryl and we were talking about how any actress looks at that script and they see that's all and they deliver it like that's all. But Meryl Streep fucking takes that and and goes. And I wonder if that was Eileen's intention when she wrote that, for it to be this small dismissal, or if that was and how she felt when when Meryl interpreted it that way. If I had to guess, I would guess that is her intention, because Eileen likes writing for like people being natural and small, and especially the way that Miranda's she's so quietly dismissive. She never really she never explodes. Uh, she said that, I mean she is the best things to say about Meryl Streep and was basically, Meryl Streep is a brilliant improviser too. And the last line of go was a direction in the script because sometimes a lean style of writing is she'll put stage directions that seemed like they should be lines or whatever, just to give intensition. And so Merrill actually just went go, like, oh, that's great, come on, leave it, leave it. Wait, I want to talk about the finale. Um and so the finale Aleen wrote the finale and directed the finale. She directed it to was on her first episode that she directed the last season finale too great. Yes, she's brilliant, and there's just so much there and also like guess that's so much to look forward to. The last images of it are just great, like okay, and like I remember pouring over like all these like just like the A V. Clubs, the vultures, like there are those recaps and the A V Club pointed out, I don't know if this is intentional, but that last shot of just the four women was that evocative of the craft. Okay, it wasn't. The weird thing is it wasn't a lot of people asked, but it no, it and I haven't seen the crafting years. I mean, I think what it was is evocative of things about women scorned getting revenge, which the Craft obviously like masters, but it wasn't a specific take on the Craft. But what a fun alignment anyway. I mean, yeah, but it's like it just it turns that whole premise on its like on its head, but it's still like it makes it we're crazy ex girlfriend, but now she's like, I'm going to destroy you because it meant something in the first season, and meant something in the second season, and now it'll mean something new in the third season. Can you reveal this and if you can't know worries is Robert a thing in season three? Or no? Um, okay, oh my god, don't don't, don't don't say it. Don't say it. Okay, I'm not I won't. Yeah, I won't reveal anything, but I just I love it anyway, just that whole Okay, that whole fucking thing. And the finale was brilliant. I thought, Yeah, I loved it. Yeah. We always knew from the beginning that she'd had some sort of affair with a professor um from pretty early on because we were like, this is not the first time she's gotten two into something. There's no way that she just lived in a vacuum and never fell in love again, and so we've been waiting to do We were actually going to, oh I can say this, yeah, because it's not happening anymore. I just realized this. We were going to open season two, um with Rebecca in bed like cuddling zone, saying I love you, and her turning over and it would be Robert and there would be a chiron that' say would say like six years earlier in the beginning to then yes, But then what happened was it just um, there was so much else we had to do with the season. Robert wasn't pertinent until the end of the season because because she wasn't being stockery to like we were going to maybe let it trickle out throughout the season and kind of have it be a slow burn breaking bad um you know where you see that Teddy verything. But it, um, we just had so much else to do, especially getting Greg out the door, Like putting Robert flashbacks would have been like wait, huh, like there it was just too much. I also love the misdirect of Greg leaving and the ship the ship show song, and then coming back at the end and they got that amazing fucking tap number, which you know, who fucking blows me away is Vincent Rodriguez, Like he he I didn't know he was such a dancer. And then I watched the second season and I'm like, not only just that tap number, but also that that number where you visualize the ballet. Fucking amazing. Vinny was working as like a musical theater dance guy, like that's what he was earning his and it's it's funny because he seems like, at least to me when he's acting, like, oh, you are a serious actor. But no, he was like in the on the Tour of White Christmas, he was he's basically worked as a dance guy and then became the dance captain. He was the dance captain of Hunchback, of Notre Dame and in LaToya like he primarily yeah, he's a dance captor. Okay, youances, then you got your dance captain's all right, here we go. He is a dance He's a captain of dance and it's so funny because he's not really like well, there are elements of him that overlap with this character, but he based the character kind of on friends he grew up with in northern California. So wait, hold on, I have a question about the show because I was thinking about this. So you have writers on your show and then when the music comes in, now is that does the writer of the episode have a hand in writing the lyrics or do you kind of like write the lyrics with Aileen and Jack? The songs are pretty separate. Basically, all the songs are written by either me, Jack Dolgin, or Adam Slessinger who also co produces the songs with this guy, Stephen Gold. Generally, what happens is the songs come from like Adam and I were just talking about this today, the songs will nine times out of ten come from me, Like I'll kind of spearhead the general direction of the songs, but the the actual like writing of the songs. It varies song to songs, and there have been songs that only Adam wrote. There have been songs that only Jack wrote. There have been songs that mostly like I mostly only wrote. Although Adam and up always getting credited because I write so much musical theater stuff and Adam is just so good. Yeah, so I was thinking about this because the first number is so like a musical theater Was there, ever, did you always want to go really into like a specific genre just to vary it up, or was there ever a version of the show that was like, this is like a music this this lives in the world of musical theater. What do you mean, like, for example, like every song would kind of be like that, like it was essentially like a Robbie musical on screen in that kind of grand style. Or did you know we also want to do like a kind of like UM R and B song or like or sort of like this is going to be a rap number or like a very popular team. It was always going to be different genres because of because it was a lean discovered me through my music videos, which so it was always going to be pop and and yeah, I mean the pilot is I mean the West Covina came before Sexy Getting Ready song, But originally there was going to be there was going to be another song called something like I'm Batchet Crazy for Your Love, which which which we replaced with Sexy getting Ready sauce. Yeah, my friend I sing all the time dream Ghost. I listened to dream Ghost all the time. And Michael Hyatt, who sings that song is it's just her voice is unbelievable. She's amazing. And also just Amber Riley and Fricky Lake being on it is Hey, we want to come on the show, and we were like, great, oh my god, Math of Love Triangles. I think I'm really really proud of that one. Yeah, yeah, oh my god. Anyway, Um, Rachel, We're gonna ask you what we ask all of our guests. What is the culture that shaped you? What is the culture that made you? Say? Culture is for me? Yeah, I want to step into a cultural direction. Um. I mean I'm just such a musical theater kids, so musical theater culture. I mean I met my best friend when we were both in UM Community theater production of Crazy for You and he was holding court, um, dissecting rent this fifteen year old he's gay, but we dated because of course, um you got and so I just think musical musical theater culture really shaped me. And then and then when I got into comedy, sketch comedy culture specifically like around you see be the kind of collaborative, the collaborative theatrical nature of comedy theaters. Those two things lovely, um crazy for you was interesting because then you came full circle with that moment with that with the continent, and he was there. He was there. Wait, I so that was my I think that's I think it's a great I think that's one of my favorite shows and musical. I think it's like pretty pretty solid. Oh yeah, I think it's great. How was the concert? What did you saying? Like were your Well, I was it wasn't. Look it's so they said it was a stage reading. We did the Broadway showed you guys doing the number. You know, we did. We literally the Laura fucking Ozma's Laura and my god Laura's first names law Laura, Osna and um Tony yasbec had the week before along with the dancers to learn it, and then a lot of us, a lot of us other principles came in the next week, but which gave everyone two weeks at most to learn an entire show. An entire show concert. It's not it was THEO just with like concerty costumes. Let's let everyone know it was the show it was. It was the Broadway show. They out um and then my number I sing the song naughty Baby, which was so fun. I mean I had just come off of having very bad vertigo. I was sick and then my like inner ear nerves got swolen and so I was on like vertigo medicine, which is good because my number was me dancing on a table being lifted in the air by a bunch of men at ben Mare. Always top of my class. All the boys were under me. Dirty lyric, dirty lyric. I don't know the show, which I did. Yeah, I mean I have many questions based on I had many questions about my character. Um yeah, I had a lot of questions, Uh it is it is? Um yeah, there were because it's you know, it's written in this kind of old school style there there literally the motive of my character was telling Tony Asbec's character like, we're engaged and we're gonna get married, and he's like, no, we're not. I've never met you. And so the justification that I came up with was that they like kept hooking up and he kept like fucking er but then being like no, but this isn't a thing, and she's like but you're sucking me, and and that one time she had a pregnancy scare but it's but it wasn't and then but like that that's and I think I told Tony at one point I was like, so I think what happens is they hook up and and she's like, well, we're getting married now, and he's like, no, we're not. But but but he kept kinger because that's what people do. Yeah, that is actually those men and I and I came up with the idea that Bobby Child is not very good in the sack, that he was very very vanilla, and that uh, Jerry O'Connell play the guy who I end up with is like a fucking beast. Love it. So it was a happy ending, really happy ending, lovely, really good for everyone. He just sucking. He just gives it to her, He just lays it in the end. Yeah, yeah, there you go. So you study musical theater at college and also simultaneously were hammerkats n y U director. Now did you ever feel because I also have we're we're in a musical sketch group popular lat and we kind of fused the two as well, like sketch comedy and musical theater or whatever. But we have some friends who were also in CAP twenty one and like didn't discover comedy till later, almost because they felt like they couldn't because the musical theater world is so different it. Did you feel ever like like how am I gonna like? Like you obviously had too strong interests? Like did you ever feel like that was very hard to get satisfied in what you were doing? Absolutely all the time. I mean I felt that, um and I yeah, I mean I didn't felt like I fit in in the musical theater program. I resented the fact that like a lot of musical theater is like not amazing and that a lot of it's dated. And then, but simultaneously, although I loved Hammer Kats, I felt like there was a lack of emotion that was missing. And I felt like I felt like when I first got into comedy. This is all testament to also a testament to the people who were the directors at the time. I felt like in order to go into comedy, I suddenly had to like become a dude. I had to be like sad my jack, you know, and um, yeah, and it's funny. I was just sitting why are you talking about this today? So it's fresh in my head. But I don't know if you knew this. I'll try to be vague. But um, So, when I was young, I was I was going to be director of Hammercats. My sophomore year, I got involved in a love triangle with um a couple of the older guys, some of whom were alumni, not my current husband, who is an alumni, but he's a different alumni. That's right, Hi, I love you so much. We never met, dam but I love you too, know, and I would love to think you've got my husband right. I've met Dan and he started danger Box too. Let me give social media love every now and then to each other. I'm I'm laying my hands on your man. He's he's the best. He's the best. So anyway, I got involved in a love triangle. I was nineteen years old. I lost my virginity to one of these guys, and then like his other friends started hitting on me, and again, I was nineteen and I basically it was a whole kerfuffle where like they were all in like a comedy group together, and basically I got removed as director and head writer of Hammercats, which is which is which is a little thing called sexual harassment, and then I was so then I was named like assistant director the next year by the people who replaced me. I was replaced with two men. Uh, and then I became like director senior year because like one of the guys quit because he wasn't happy. It was a whole thing, but it was, here's the thing I I should have. I should have quit. I should have, you know, And I didn't because being on the sketch group was my identity in school and I loved comedy so much. But I didn't have to be on the sketch group to do comedy. But I don't necessarily regret it, because we created our own sketch groups. Ever. We created our a new sketch comedy show every month, and it trained me and like when I and it trained me to write a lot, and it's how I got good at writing. But like, man, the lack of self respect I had for myself in college makes me want to puke. You know. It's so interesting because you look back and you're like, man, what a warp situation. I went into my audition for hammerck Ats, I didn't do my hair, and I made sure I wore a shirt with Heath Ledger as the joker on it because I was like, I must be perceived as straight. They will not allow me into that group. You you weren't all my senior year. You had just and um, but you were in the room for my audition. And I went in and I was like, and I look back at it and I was like, I can't believe that I have shown in that audition because I was being the opposite of myself. I played like very agro like dad character and those old old auditions, things, Olderian things I went to. And now it's like, I feel like what makes me special as a performer is so different than that. But I was literally like fighting for my life to get on that group because I had just come out of the closet and I was like, I must do comedy. It's what I must do. I had just been cut in the first round of Danger Box the day prior Danger Boxes, the improv group, and yeah, the last culture is this. Listeners have heard us talk about these groups before, but this is this is we have hammer cuts. But this is the family in the in the room, so we must talk about it. This is a deeper layer. We haven't talked about this, but yeah, this was really hard because I was like, and it's still when I got on the group, I was like, Okay, at what point do I really start being myself? And it was really tough. And then we continued to be objectified. Do you remember when they threw us a wedding? Okay? I do, well you sent us you were like wedding? Well, okay, how much do we want to? Okay, So here's what you know. I mean, what happened was you were the I mean basically the only two gig guys on the two main sketch groups, and everyone was like, you guys should get married because you're gay. There is this person who was involved in the comedy groups, who has quite a lot of money, who is eccentric, and this person literally was like, we should throw them a wedding, and you guys were like ha ha right, and then she, she she them fake threw you a wedding like spent money. Wasn't it a Rassic Park themes park theme wedding? And you know what looking back on it, and and then we were of course we wrote our own vows. What was your how did you when did you Did you know this was going to happen? I had, we knew that there was going to be an event. I just didn't. I didn't know how much it was going to go into it. And what you have to understand is how humiliating that is, despite the fact that you're trying to have fun with And I'm like, you know what, like we have a sense of humor about this, like and I think that's good, but at the same time, like we both know this is fucked up right where we were like, but no one, I think everyone else thought it was Oh, you know what, I remember this. My friend was there, Danny was there, and he was texting me updates and I was like, wait a second, what right? I remember being harried And basically this is one of our friends, like probably got stoned one night and made a fake wedding website through like then not the wedding, a full wedding registry for us, Like honestly, it was funny, like in the way that like ha ha, gay is funny when you're admittedly one and not the best version of yourself. That's no shade to anyone at the time, Like, seriously, we're fine. Did it was there like a tenth of me that was like funk, still dealing with this, like still this is like how you guys see me a little bit, but like I'm not a humorless I got that it was funny the event that like literal thousands of dollars that were being thrown into this event, thousands of dollars a bizarre and like honestly, at that point, I was like, okay, well we have to at least have the opportunity to respond. So Bowen improvised quote unquote his vows because he was as an improviser. You guys had to do a ceremony, walked down the Bowen wore a vail. It was, um, oh my god, it's all coming back to me, all these text messages because I was in l A and I was like, what's going on? Yeah, So then I wrote my vows and I was like, you know, this night is about so many things. It's about love, it's about friendship, but mostly it's about money. And I thought it was so I thought I was justified, and then the person got very upset and I was told by the person that made the wedding registry that I had to make it right. And I'm like, let me tell you, didn't this person say you ruined the wedding or am? I don't really know what was said. All I know is that we had to then deal with this person's I was like, you know what, this is ridiculous because like, and their justification was they just wanted to do something nice. So Matt I had to walk outside while they were like sitting on the stoop basically just like we despondent. And then Matt and I were just like, hey, we just want to make sure everything is okay. But also and I will never forget this, Matt literally, we were both everyone involved was very hammered, and Matt just screams to the person, we didn't ask for this, which is kind of perfect. I actually, um, does this person listen to the podcast? I have no idea, you know what. I reached out to this person recently to kind of uh Men's fences because I saw this person in the show and thought they were fabulous, and you know I I, yeah, in a show and a show a person an uh and it was a prop show, and I reached out and I thought it was it was reacting, which was acting. But anyway, so I reached out and was like, hey, you know what, I think we've been through our ups and downs, but I just wanted to tell you like that you were great. I just wanted to at least like reach out and put a button on that because we had a weird moment after the show and I was just like, I don't really want to be thinking about this anymore. Like like I said, I truly I funked up so many times when I was that age, Like I said, nasty, maybe this is still me this person is it was older than you though, yes, But the thing is like it just meant something to me to reach out and men that bridge. And I think maybe I think everyone had regrets about it. This person say like, oh yeah, like I've thought about that and that was so weird. They just kind of thanked me. It's fine, you know what. I don't expect that person to be the bigger person. It's okay. I think maybe they're you know, it's just it's just it's all fine. But looking back on it, I was like, yeah, that was a little bit of a fund up night to begin with. That for me at the end of the night to feel like I was the one who funked up. That's gas lighting. Yeah, And it was a homophobic night. It was a night of it's the problem that it's the problem that happens, you know what bothers me is like, because there are some women who really, I'm sorry, I am dealing with like my stomach processing all of the toast. I just ate it like pains. So anyway, there's some like I hate I hate it when there are some girls who are like where my gaze at and it's like they're not your gaze. They're they're all individual people. And there is a tokenism with the way people, especially straight women act towards gay men that I'm very cognizant of because I used to do it because I and I don't know why, I naturally really get along with game. I don't know why, but there but like I could totally see a world. There's probably a world in which, like in college, I was like my game and it's just like, um, I'll never forget I read Elliott Glazer wrote, um an amazing it was like an op ed. This is like six seven, eight years ago about how like there was a woman who like wrote a humorous op ed that had been going around that was like I need a gay best friend. And he responded to that and was like, we're not your accessories, We're not your purse. Were people right? I know we had a sense. And I don't know if you felt it this way, but like, because I was on the team, I was gay, I was like, well there, they won't add another one, and they be That was unfair of me to think. And I always think, you know, like RuPaul says, how much of this is the calls coming inside of the house. Um calls coming from inside the house. But you know, it makes you think a little bit, like it was, it was much harder for women to become directors of that group. Uh. And then when I think we had I mean fabulous David Sirov was amazing. I mean he ran such an amazing group. And the group really changed. And then I was director, and then Sudi was director, Jenny Jaffey was director, and it became it felt it felt like a different atmosphere, like a much more accepting. It was a great when I was on there, it was not great, And I yeah, I have many thoughts and regrets and it's partially what shaped my comedy now. Is my I dated my mentors. They completely turned on me. Uh and I was at a certain point trying to be like them, and then I was like, funk these guys. And I my comedy began to get more emotional feminine is the wrong word, but more specific two things that affected me as a as a woman, and it shipped and then I started to write more musical comedy. Yeah, and that's fabulous, And there wasn't this but this kind of like masculine passing is so real and it didn't really fully dawn on me until now that like you had to, like I feel like you had to grow up in order to like fit in, or that you had to like wear specific teeth. That's really upsetting and funked up that you felt like you had to just because you knew the comedy community was so like kind of like what you know it was half that well it's a boys club, and I knew that it was a boys club, but like I had gone to UCB shows all year. Also all that summer, I had taken a one oh one at uc B, And you know that's how I know that when you walk into those classes that you see be like you're all anxious because it's like improv and you know, am I going to be funny or whatever? But when you walk in and you're the only one, no matter what that means, like if it means due to your race, to your sexual orientation, maybe you're the only woman in a class. Um you take that class differently, your experience is wildly different. And so maybe, But I think a lot of it also had to do with my upbringing because I'm from Long Island and it's a very like toxic kind of masculine um culture there, and you know, they just don't even really know that it's happening. They don't know that the minorities on Long Island field the way they do that. I believe that if they did know, and if they knew that people grew up this way and we're so hurt this way, like maybe they would change. And also maybe I'm giving them too much credit. Um yeah, did you ever feel like that um mine is more ethnicity based? I think like walking into the danger box audition, I'm sure I pulled out like ten Asian jokes, and that is because what I was used to, the moments I was used to were um uh, it was it was just having to make people feel comfortable and appease them by like playing this caricature Asian person, so by like and so yeah and like yeah, I even regret that, Like thinking back on that, that's kind of really upsetting and makes me want to puke. But like probably I don't know, but that's the history of that's so that's especially in America, the history of how anyone who is in a straight white male has been in in art and culture and media is is often playing up a straight white male gaze version of themselves or or playing a stereotype because that's only what you'd be cast as. And then you know, and then Mickey Rooney takes your job. And then I tried to watch I had actually never seen Breakfast to Tiffany's and Gregor and I tried to watch it, and we were like, oh no, we were, we were we could, we couldn't watch it. It's awful. It's bad. I mean, yeah, it's good for the fashion, but you know what, Okay, I want to mention this. I want to mention talking about Mickey Rooney's adorable that was all gardens like kimono. I want to mention this, um welcome we show sophomore Yere, I like just laid those Asian jokes on thick and then Andrew Farmer pulled me aside before the nuxt show went up, and he was like, hey, this year and hopefully for the rest of time, I don't want you to make another Asian joke on stage over oh God blessing. And I was like, at first it really made me nervous, and then I was like, oh, but he's so right, and then I like that was a moment for me and I have Andrew to think, but like, I'll still make an Asian joke, and like I get to pull that card out whenever I want now, But like that was like him telling me to lean off the crutch, don't use it anymore. And then it just took me to the next You're right, it becomes it's like it's anything, and I say, this is like a Jewish person, which growing up in l A and living in New York is not really, but it's like you you begin to it's a defense mechanism. You you turn what you're insecure about into your sword. But then but then that sword becomes a crutch. What were the Asian jokes she made about had to do with like laundromats and like fro Yo places and places yeah, Barry and like just every f places like operated by agents. Actually I never clocked that. I never see I've pulled that out in my stand up a couple of times, and it has like a fifty percent hit, right, so maybe yeah, you know what, Yeah, that's that's fair. But it's so it's so funny that you say that when you when you started to get angry, that's when you started to get musical, because the same like when I graduated, we started to do pap Roulette, and that's when I really started to feel like, oh wow, I'm really writing what I want to write well, And maybe there's something to that thing where they say when you can no longer speak, you sing. But it felt like me too. It felt like it felt like I remember one of the dudes in fact, who I was in the trigle with, it was like, when you're gonna stop the musical theater thing and just do comedy, and it's like and so when I turned against these guys a little bit, I was like, I'm gonna do what I want, and I fucking love musicals, and I went I took a musical theater writing class at the Graduate Musical Theater Program over the summer, and I really started to like because the guys that ever discouraged me from writing musical sketches even it just like I had discouraged myself because I wanted to fit in. I wanted to do the type of things I thought they thought were funny because it's a feminine slash gay impulse, and that means it can't be mainstream, or it can't be cool, or it can't be whatever. And it's such bullshit because who the funk said that? Right? But then it came full circle. This is another full circle moment that I'm just like dragging out with your Golden Globe speech. It was like, and now there is a musical like comedy on Network and we I don't know if you saw the Instagram, we screamed we were so proud of you, and we are so proud of you. Have to oh, I want to see that. Honestly, I knew you were going to win when when you got nominated. I said to everyone, I was like, she is gonna win. I was like absolutely, because Gina Rodriguez had one the year before, and I felt like I was like, they're gonna want and I knew. I knew. I was like, you're so charming. She's killing it with with every buddy that that talks to her. I was like, let me tell you something, There was absolutely no way that anyone watches this show or even meets her and checks off Another box for me was that the first for me first season after the Doctor Phil episode where you just like Rebecca starts to like fully unravel, I was like, she's gonna win, She's gonna win some awards this season. And then it came trip, it came true. I can't I can't wait to see that instagram. We'll show you. 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Forward slash Lost Culture East US for your free five day home try on. All right, that's enough, let's get back to the Come on, let's go, and we're back with Rachel Blade. You know why we're going to jump back in because I'm sticky. We talked about this in the break. So Rachel Blue came into town last year to be on Late Night with Seth Mine with Seth Meyers heard of it um and afterwards we were hanging out and then Rachel was telling me about how Vinny Rodriguez was telling you all about Rice queens. And then I informed you about the concept of okay, So Rice Queen's first of all, are any gay man, regardless of ethnic city, who fetishized as Asian men is almost exclusively into Asian men. So then I told Rice Queen is a Rice Queen. I told Rachel about the concept of sticky Rice or being stick which is Asian on Asian fetishism, which and and so, Rachel, I think you were very shocked at this revelation. Well, because the idea that that it's a comment that there are Asian guys who don't want to date other Asian guys, so they'll be like, sorry, I'm not sticky, right, And we were just talking on during the break about how that is also casually racist, but I mean, yeah, I mean it's interesting, like at what point is your you know, what your dick wants or what your vagina wants, Like is that diserting race racism or is that just what your dick wants and your what your vagina wants. But it's like, and I, as a white person, have no opinion on this, and then should have no opinion. There's also no such thing as preferring one. I don't think so anyway, because like you're attracted to, like there's no limit on attraction, Like it's you not admitting to yourself that you're attracted to certain people or thinking you should be attracted to someone else. Like honestly, like if I saw fucking Chris Evans walk in this goddamn room, I cannot promise you that I'd be attracted to him because I haven't my body isn't in the same room as him. Yet, I like, it's all fake. It's all fucking fake. But even then, it's like the gay men who say they're not into Asians, like if they saw Vinny, like, would they change their minds? Like it's that kind of thing works. Yeah, it's like what do you what are you saying you're not into Asian people because that's what your idea of, whatever you think, whatever, like you think you might be into that a person of Asian descent doesn't fit that. Yep, that's it, That's what it is. I mean people, I would say, like the big the most comments we get on our show are like god, no, no, no, no, no no no. I was just like saying no now now now I'm just talking about attractive Asian, attractive Asian man. But like, yeah, I mean I feel like the people, well, no, no, the purpose person who's objectified most is David Hall's white Josh, but but Vinnie's is objectified quite ant. Vinny Vinnie's very hot, and then and then Rene and then Renee has been there is quite I mean, father Bris a fan favorite, but women are like, oh my god father, Brise so freaking sexy. I mean because because he's a priest too hot show. Also, did you know Vella? No? I never knew her. That is insane to me, because you know how I know Vella. I don't know her personally, but she's been Facebook married to Preston Martin for a decade. Hilarious. And I was like, when I saw that she was on the show, I was like, Oh, I wonder if Rachel has been friends with her. It's the weirdest thing. Plays Heather and I she she was two years above me at the experimental theater Wing and n y U. We never met. I never knew each other. We have all the same mutual friends. And when we cast her on the show, it was just from her audition. She's so good. I must have met her. And then I was like, she came to a hammerketch show. But I think just doesn't remember me, which is fine. And I I saw her in in a show The Dibbic, and I don't remember her either, so it's weird. That's I'm kind of glad because I was a mess in college. I'm really glad she's getting Rachel and this is a real thing. Here we go Bowen and I are. First time we ever met was our friend Munk took us to a Hammercats show and we sat in silver and watched a Hammercat show and there was like thirteen people there. And you were the reason I wanted to audition for the group, because you said you you delivered a line so good, so perfectly. It was a show where, um, it was speed dating, but all the dates were with voiceovers, and you played the sex in the City of voiceover and you turned out to the audience and said, I had to wonder, are we really speed dating or is the speed dating us? And I was like, that is so funny. Hold on a second. This is a group at my school, Like I have to be in this. And it was that moment that I think I decided not only to like next year, I was gonna come out next year. I was gonna try to do comedy. I was gonna admit to myself all my interests. And it was like at that show that I was like, I was going to transfer to Tish, Like I I decided at that show, I was like, this is definitely what I have to do and that I never knew that that yeah, that was And also the fact that that's the first time I met you. Wow, what's and here we are in this room. Here we are years later, ten years later, Rachel, you know us when you probably you knew me when I was still in the closet, and yeah, well I remember having a really in depth no no, no no, But this is when you were out because we remember we went out for dinner USC and you were on the fence about you were going to be a doctor. There was a time when he was going to move back to Denver and I was like, whoa. Rachel took me out to dinner after the show at USC and it was I still remember to this day. That was the nicest thing, one of the nicest things anyone's ever done. I mean, but we had that long conversation where yeah, I was you were like I don't You were like, I love comedy, but also I'm premed right, and I was like, I was like, what did I say? I was like, don't help people. I mean, I'm trying to remember. I think I was like she was a huge cigar. I was like, that's don't help people. You just sounded like medicine wasn't your passion at all. And I was like, why would you be a doctor if you don't. I was like, being a doctor's really hard. You have to like, you have to like it, you know what. That was the moment where I realized that being a doctor was going to be really hard and it wasn't a star A star. Yeah. I think that's also like you were just so distinct and your voice has always been so distinct, and I was like, oh, huh, doctor doesn't really know I mean, you'd be the funniest doctor, best best singer. Oh doctor, um no, but that that no for real though, real talk. That was actually probably like one of the first moments where like someone was saying to me, like, well, maybe that's not the right thing to pursue, and did you did you change majors? And change majors? Rachel? I had a full depression era personal depression. I shouldn't I shouldn't pair those words together. It was after college, like I didn't realize, Like I remember being at graduation at Yankee Stadium and Matt was sucking on the field singing with all reality show so I sang learned to love and live on the field, and I remember feeling sad in that moment. I was like I don't want to do this thing where I'm going to go to med school, and so I like pulled out on my my applications and then just like I didn't follow through and then spent like the year after that, the intervening year between college and doing Papuarlett and like doing comedy shows like temping and trying to survive and like all of that. You really made the right decision, I think. So I took into Bapiano on university and I was like please being I was like, grace us with you because he had heard to the grapevine that you were thinking about moving back home, and I was like, that's not acceptable. And we had been talking in Papulette about like because how much we loved you and how much you wanted you to be on anyway, this is getting a little too inside. When did you When did you come out again? It was the middle of sophomore year. Was the weekend before the groups went to Skidmore our sophomore year, talking on the table, right, wait were you a year I was a freshman where when you were graduating? Yeah? Okay, um, so anyway, and then that was and then I remember screaming to Neil Casey at the after part. Oh, this is the best story ever. Was the after party of skid More. Bowen came out at Skidmore screamed in Neil Casey's face, I'm a big old fan. Oh my god. And He's like, that's great, man, that's fantastic great. Like Neil was so cool about it. I was fucking and I stormed over and I was like, what that was? Yeah? That was anyway. Wait, Rachel speaking of fun nights, and I secretly want okay, but first, Matt, you go, here's here's what I think the Golden Globes is. Like, okay, oh right, let's get into it. Well, you wake up in the morning and your eyes open and you say this is the day, and someone hands you a mimosa, and so then they say it's time and you get in the chair, and of course you get your glam squad. Now, I would get beat to the gods. And I've already thought about if I ever go to the Golden Globes what I would wear. I would wear a canary yellow tuxedo top brings out the olive tones and the black pants because I would be positive that I wouldn't win right, so then um, when um, when the camera cuts to me from what I'm nominating, I would just do the kind of phrase of like you can't see but he's it's like he's, um, come on a little, it's like he's he's he's someone just he's in a business meeting and someone just like pitched that they all go home early. Come on. Really, there's no way, by the way, I should backtrack. So I get all glammed up. I'm literally contoured like Kim Kardashian. Oh you you'd get like I show up now when you're saying like you get done, like are you going to get work like botox before this or would never? Just like you know, like just like a full face of sup I look like Kimchi. Yeah. So I I step out of the limousine and immediately Leonardo DiCaprio is heading on me. It's just like get out of here, leaving alone. I'm with my friends. I bring Bow into the ceremony plus one and my plus one. He'll be nominated next year the same category. I'm your busy phillips. No, actually, I'm busy in your Michelle Williams take busy phillips every every every award show, it's always Michelle Williams and Busy is always right there. And that's why I keep seeing Billy Busy Phillips places. Yes, Okay, Busy Phillips is always where Michellilliams is. The award shows their dates always, So anyway, I I win and it's like this incredibly shocked moment and then the rest of the night is just a blur, even in my retelling of it right now. So I do want to know, can you just walk us through what that is? What what is it like to go to the Golden So well, I'll tell you what I did this year was um because I went to Okay, so the first year I was nominated, we were invited to this fancy schmancy fashion party at the Chateau Marmont the night before and I'm like, this is gonna be amazing. I'm nominating and sure enough, like I get out of the car, someone immediately takes my picture like this great. My husband and I go up. No one gives a ship. No one gives a fucking ship. The chateau is crowded, by the way. I have to say, like these parties that are thrown at the Chateau Marmont, which is like it's a tiny space, there are a lot of bodies. I I moderated an event for like this nonprofit at the chateau, and there was at one point a little girl was on stage playing guitar, and I literally people were outside talking and I literally went, hey, oh god, I went put down the cocaine and shut the funk up. Out down a girl. He's playing guitar. And it was great. Oh my god, it was great. So so we went to the chateau. We ended up just being the only people eating the food, which is great when you're at like a party in l A. There's no line for the food. It was great. And so the night before we're like housing food. So so then come this year, I get invited to like a ton of events, but the night before the Golden Globes, and then I get an email from my friends saying, and it's half a bit, saying, hey, guys, the Pomona Reptile shows in town. Do you want to go? And I was like, you know what, yeah, because I was like, I'm nominated for a Golden Globe. I'm not gonna like get more nominated for a Golden Globe going to these events. I'm already gonna be on TV. I'm going to the Reptile Show. And so by that point that day, I had already had my nails done because this year to the Globes, I went with um nail art of all of the cast members faces. And so I'm at the Reptile Show and I'm holding get Gos with my fancy nails and just like falling in love with tortoises. And and then after we went out for Chinese food because we went to Monterey Park for Chinese food because that's where all the good Chinese food is um. And then so like I just because I just knew, I was like all these pre events, like I'm already nominated for the big thing, which is the Golden Globe. I'm gonna meet some lizards. So so the thing that I I want to say the last two years ago I got like a facial but like, honestly don't have to, like I go to the Globes kind of in the middle of filming or like I had just come back from vacation this year. So all right, you wake up, your eyes flight open, and you're like today's day. No one hand you a momissa. I guess you can hire someone to do that, take a shower, you eat normally. I mean, to be honest, my days have been pretty normal. Like glam they called glam, which is hair and makeup. Glam squad comes a couple hours before and you sit in a chair and they um put the things on you. Here's the thing is, I'm not one to like blast music while getting here and makeup. I like taking the quiet time. So when I get hair and makeup on, I meditate. Um. But oh well, we have to know is both years I got a dress custom made for me by Christian Siriano. He's great. So so I did fittings before that, which feels glamorous. But you're also like in the fittings and there isn't like music playing. I mean I could play music. I guess in all of these scenarios, I could be playing music and it would make it feel more like But the hair and makeup, it's it's beautiful. And then you here's the thing is, like you get to the globes and it's just so ironically glamorous. It really is, and the red carpet ship is is really it's really crazy. I mean, it's a it's a skill to learn how to be on it because there's people shouting your name and you actually have to turn around and kind of stretch out your face because you're smiling so much. You start to like twitch and oh my god, you don't even think about this ship. And well, the first time I did it, I was so confused. No one told me what to do, and so I thought, I literally everyone who shouted my name. I thought I had to just look at them, and so I spent all this time looking at each individual camera. And then someone was like, no, you just look in the general direction and you do whatever the funk you want to. Yeah. Um, So that's like a chaotic moment. Yeah, and then it's really cool. And then but then like you're waiting in line for the red carpet and there's like waiting in line and everyone just like waits in line, and so then you go in and you sit down and it does everyone actually get drunk? Um? I you kept it together? Did this year? I got I got a little drunk this year. The first year I didn't because I was so nervous. And then I won and I didn't have time to drink. But this year, Like I was pretty sure I wasn't gonna win, and then when I didn't, I was just like time to get plastered. Yeah, the first year, when you're there, like did you think, like I think I might win? Uh? Two days before Rolling Stone come out with came out with their predictions and they predicted me. And that's when my writing partner Rolne was like, baby, you might win, and so I wrote a speech was positive. I mean, getting to the Globes of the first year was crazy because I step out, it's so glad. I'm overwhelmed with how glamorous it is. You know, the handy champagne, you're doing, all this red carpet stuff you're doing, You're doing entertainment tonight, and like you're next to all these celebrities who were like finishing up their interviews and I just remember them being like, now you're this year's it girl or whatever, and I was like, yeah, I guess. And then you know, you win the Globe and then immediately your whist off to press and so there's a video online of my press conference, but you have You've just won a Golden Globe and suddenly earning a press conference and luckily my press conference, I talked about diversity and then Israel. So when they call it, they call your name, and that's a ridiculous. It was overwhelming and I was like maybe expecting it, and then when they said it, I was like, oh holy and I just my husband screamed like someone had died. I I and then I had memorized my speech because like I wrote it, I had written it up and so that's why, like I had I think in the moment, I spoke so fast. I wanted to make sure to get everyone's name in. But of course I forgot to thank the Hollywood for impressed you did. That speech was great? It was, yeah, it was. It was crazy. And then the rest of the night I just like walked around holding the Golden Globe, which is heavy, and I am not fit. Um When you're up there, though, do you I guess was Meryl Streep there that year? Did you clock the celebs in front of you because you're looking you know, I was just kind of looking out into the crowd. Yeah, you know what, you know what it was. I went into stand up bit mode. The thing is, when you're up there, you want to do a bit because it's safe. Well, well, it also just feels like you're doing a big show, like a big stand up show, and so you kind of go into that mode and you don't realize, oh no, I'm also on TV. Like the Like watching myself on TV after the fact was so weird because I remember it being just like you're in a not massive room with a group of people and you're like, Okay, I gotta play to the room a little bit, yeah, a little bit, yes, yes, and you have that high from performing. It feels like, yeah, I think what made that speech so great and so genuine and so earnest was you just screaming oh my god like that. I don't know. I don't know how anyone doesn't, Well, how do you give a composed Yeah? I mean, look, Jennier Lawrence is like won an Oscar or whatever. But like you know, when people ask me, people ask you. The morning you get nominated is really nerve racking because they announced it at five am the night before. There's very few things in life where it's like you will know at this particular time when a massive thing is about to happen. There just aren't things like that, especially in actual show business. You don't know when someone's gonna call, if they're if you're gonna get apart, if they'll ever call, but you're like, Okay, at five am tomorrow I will know this. And the same thing with the Emmy's where it's like at seven am, I will know this and it's fucking nerve wracking. You're adrenaline so high. I couldn't sleep. Yeah, the night before the Emmys this year was bad. I could not um. It feels like the Emmys has a, guess, a little bit of a bias towards shows on maybe the c W, like the Emmy's doesn't like the Emmys eighteen thou people. So it's it's whatever the most kind of I think, And that's saying that stuff doesn't deserve it, but like it is more known stuff of course because it's the Hollywood form presses ninety people the Emmys. Well there you go, so, um, what was I gonna say? Uh No, It's like, well, at that moment of like knowing the time, it's sort of like sort of like theater Camper High School. It's like when the Castles goes out, that's exactly That's exactly what it feels like. It feels like the cast list is going up, and so the morning I got nominated for the Globe felt like I won because that was just no one saw it coming, and I kind of did because I felt good about the press conference that I did, but I didn't know. And so when that happened, I was, I mean hearing it was. It was Dennis Quaid, our friend Jack's dad, and like I was the first one because of my name alphabetically. And then this year was Don Cheatle and that was that felt like I won. Hearing my name. I was like, I'm from chet because because of the no but that was huge, I mean that was and then unlike this year, we were done filming. But the first year, I was in the middle of filming and so I had a film later that day and everyone gets you drunk because they're handing you champagne. I remember you posting about that or something. I remember, Yeah, you were still shooting. Oh man, I really want to bring you to the Golden Gloves now, and you're so I'm just gonna like literally step out and Lee I was going to be like, hey, I just want to really know someone that went to her. She was a couple of years ago. Oh quick, Jamie Fox's daughter close. I'm just gonna say it, Soci Bacon, Kevin Bacon. Oh yeah, it's always the child of a celebrity, which I'm He's like, that's trouble. When she told him out old he was she was how three young? But you know whatever, He's Leo DiCaprio. I just want to can I quickly describe my my Golden Globes day. It's super short, because amazing. I can't believe that was the firsthand account primary sores. Um, I wake up. I put on a sheet mask. I let it sit on my face. I'll put on like my electric blue suit. I'll walk out. I'll forget my sheet mask is still on. I'll bring a huge vat of cuticle oil with me and just like dip my hands in it in the limo and then I'll just pull it out. And then I want to do this is like if this is kind of an Amy Streamer crawling on the red carpet kind of moment, but I want to do a red carpet with a sheet mask on my fucking face. That's great, My fear would be because that's the one where you can drink. I would be a camera ye because knowing my history, it's like I was the one that was drunk at every sweet sixteen, Like like, yeah, it happens, but it's okay. If you get drunk, you're here's the thing, the idea, the idea. You know, there's so much composure, like, oh, you know, they asked you on the They asked me the first year I was nominated. They were like, so, what were you doing this morning? And a lot of people are like, oh my god, I didn't even know. I got a phone call from my agent or I was at the gym, and it's like, fuck, you know, I was up watching the broadcast that like the idea, Oh, I'm just gonna play cool I do. It's for the art, guys. This is a show where you're getting a hunk of metal for saying things like it's it's all, it's any it's it's entertainment. We actually ran into Lena and I went to the Vanity Fair Oscar party and we ran into one of the producers of the Oscars and they felt bad about the whole La La land And here's what I and what I said was and this is so like my dad. I became my dad. But I was like Hey, this is a television show. It's great TV, it's great entertainment. It sucks and it's weird, but at the end of the day, it's it's it's a it's a it's a show about entertainment. And so the idea that like, oh I better not get too drunk, it might not be civilized. It's it's like, let's look at the Oscars. You know where the Oscars even come from. I read about this. Uh, I'm gonna butcher this. But basically, Louis B. Mayer in the twenties thirties UH wanted to hire people who worked construction on his movies to build his house, and people refused because they were like, we're in the union. We're not just going to build you a house. And the union started to get stronger with the teamsters and they were afraid that the actors and directors were going to unionize, and they said, well, let's distract everyone. Let's have an award show. Let's we'll start a thing. We'll call it, m hmm, what's something fancy? The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences the OSCARS were founded to distract people from unionizing by teamsters, but no no, no, just like just like by by the studios. Sure, but it's sparked by these teamsters union. But you know what you if you really think about, of course it was there there could like yeah, it's an industry giving. Here's the thing is the critics giving awards is interesting because and maybe I'm biased because because you are critically claimed, well yes, but also if there's anyone who in the Hollywood form press does watch a lot, but but if there are people who really watch everything, it's Chris the idea of like, because the Television Academy is just everyone who's in the industry, it's interesting. This is why the t c A is a gag because they give one person the award for Drama and one person the award for Comedy. And they gave you the award for comedy and that is big and they don't make mistakes. They always give it to someone who's super deserving. It was you and Sarah Paulson for people v o J to give you a fucking idea. It was It was a really it was really amazing. Um yeah, that was really cool. Cool That night was really cool. That's just I always watched the Critics Choice Awards and and like I always like Clark when I see who they've given that award to, and I always make sure to seek that out. And of course I had already been watching in Crazy X, but I was just like it was, it's just incredible. And I want to give a shout out to watch you on screen and a show that you created. It's your brainchild. And also know that my Palpatel writes for your show and I went to school to learn how to write with her, and she's amazing. She's fantastic. The second lane read script, she's like this, I want this person. This person is brilliant. I'm so proud of her, and I I don't because I'm in New York still and she's in l A obviously doing her thing. I don't see her enough. But it's crazy because Billy Domino and me and so No and my friend Alice Roth, who's a writer producer in New York now we all went. We were in like every class together, and then to see them going to this great success, it's just it's so wild. It makes you think, I said to this when when you started to really check off, and when my friend's study got hired by Usanella. I was like, you know, I said to you, I was like, you know, this community that we had a feeling was special, really was. And that was very emotional for me. I was like, I just was It's just so great. Yeah, oh my god, surreal. Should we move on to I don't think so. I think it's time. Oh yeah, and I want you to give me something to rant about it. I think, okay, I'll dig into the trouble for you. Then, so guys, um, oh wait, can I say one more thing? So I'm making my network television debut. What on April I will be a contestant on who Wants to Be a Millionaire? What? Chris Harris Who? I shot this back in August. I went on a fucking whim. I went after work one day still I'm waiting tables. I get an email from like UCB or the Pit or whatever like hey, they're casting for for a Millionaire. And I'm like, you know what, I knew all these people, Kristin Bartlett, John Bander, Duffy Duffy, Kevin McClean, all these people who had been on fucking Millionaire, And I'm like, how are they getting this? I guess they want like personalities, right, So of course they reat out to the comedy theaters. I get this email that's like, we're going to be auditioning for contestants for Millionaire. I'm like, my one friend won a hundred k on it. I was like, I'm definitely going. So I go down there. I like, pass the test, get interviewed by the producer. I guess they like me enough. Pass me on, do this like fake screen tests? Passed me on. Finally I get an email, You're going you're going to be a contestant. God, So I shot it in August. I can't say anything about how it went, but I was going to be your So do you get a phone of friend? But now it's not phone a friend, it's you can bring a friend in the audience. So I said, because Bowen is very much the other half of my brain, Like I'm very like, you know, like, what is it, right, brain? You don't want to you don't want to bring that. You don't want to bring someone who's the other half of your brain because it's going to tell you what you already know. The thing is like the reason I want somehow it will tell you. This thing here is very scientifically mathematically minded. And also Bowen is genuinely the smartest person right now, you really are anyway, and so anyway, he couldn't go. So I chose the second smartest person I know, Sudy Green. So she comes with me to Vegas. We go, Oh my god, let's just say you're gonna want to tune in and it's going to be a wild episode. I wish you were in l A because we would all have a little screening party. Let's have a screening party. I'll be into it. We had plans to go to Disneyland that day, but I feel like we gotta have a screen We gotta have screen you know what. I volunteer my house. Oh my god, I would love We'll do it in my house. Okay, I'll double check my schedule. I get back the sixteen and I think that's gonna work. But I wanted to say it now because this episode will come out I think than twelve. So you guys, and I'll say it again for the episode. We're gonna have Miss Darcy Cardon on the next episode of Cultures. We're so excited and um so I'll say it again on that episode. But you guys, for twenty. Matt Rodgers is on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? And I don't want to tune in because there might be some good moments. You kept this, kept things very close to the best, because not even I know what happens in this Wow and Chris Harris, I gotta say, I'm I'm I'm pretty curious about this. I will gladly, I'll host. I'll host the doing Alright, alright, Good's noon. Whenever airs like ABC, it like, oh maybe see the thing is Yeah, you think it's still like a prime time show, but now it's like it's like on every day at noon on ABC. I think it comes on after the View there, so all my all, my fan base will be already watching ABC. Of course, my demographic is women who watched the view like me. Remember when it was weekly and you had to wait until the next week. It was television events. I remember when I remember his name. I remember when John Carpenter one a million dollars was the first one and the question was how far away is the sun from the Earth? No, no, no, no, no, it was it was who was on? Who was the first president to be on network television? The answer was Nixon. On laughing that was on. Well okay, Well then there was another episode which was the answer was the sun is ninety three million miles away from the Earth. You remember that, nu, I remember it very clearly. So maybe maybe we're maybe both of us are. One of us is right, one of us is right. Okay, So guys, who's right? Me or Golden Globe winner Rachel? Take your take your sides, multiple choice quests. Remember that I will go to the Golden Globes one day and I'll be wearing canary. So, um, that's fantastic. Um, you guys, I cannot wait to watch. I'm so excited. I also think I possibly might look dumb, but um, don't spoil. But I'm not spoiling. I'm just saying I'm definitely on. And Sudie Green is my plus one and oh my god, she was one a million dollars and you were keeping it like this close to the vest this whole time. Yeah. I'm not a good secret keeper, so it's been very hard for me to not tell, especially because I shot it a long time. I didn't tell anyone, and I didn't tell well, I did not tell anyone, right, Yeah, that was hard. Have you noticed him fanning himself with money. I have a case full of money behind me, calling people in Switzerland. I don't know. Yeah, he's been like change, he's changed. Um, but you guys watch Yeah, so listen this next segment we have, it's the one you've open fucking waiting for. Um, we had our live show lost coature racist, I don't think so, Honey. Again, I want to say thank you guys so much for making it such a success. We're so excited about it, and there's gonna be. You should definitely stay tuned because I think we're going to be maybe doing another live show very soon. Oh my god, Oh my god, maybe even one in Los Angeles. Everyone that features Rachel Bloom have but try to get you. You let me know what you do it. I heard you're doing the story parts benefit. I'm so excited your story part. No, but I just I'm friends with a lot of story parts. Yeah. So honestly, you got it and you guys both story parts were both story parts. No god, I have so many friends in story part. It's the best for those of you who don't know story parts. Amazing collective of people. We take stories that kids right, making mental shows and there's gonna be a benefit this year, one in l a one in New York there in May, early to mid May. Got to check it out. I don't know this dates, but looking up story parts and Rachel's going to perform um. But you, guys, I don't think so, honey. It's one minute to rail against culture, something that's really been bugging. I've really been sucking us up, and we get takes sixty seconds to really go for it here, Um, do you have something I do? Okay, here we go. I think you're gonna go first. And I got my eye on the time bo when Yang starts now, I don't think so, honey. People at Soul Cycle steal your umbrellas when it's a rainy fucking day. We went yesterday morning for a Gaga versus Beyonce soul Cycle themed ride. I got my life. My endorphins are coursing through my fucking body. And guess what. I walked to the front door, check the bucket. What was not there? My twelve dollar black umbrella from Mooji that is durable and has lasted me months and munch. I don't think so my months. I don't think so, honey. People it's souls who think that it's action, that there are a rock star soul, a rock star athlete, warrior, whatever the fucking things on the posters saying that they they have that that they have the right to steal people's umbrellas in people's protections from the elements. I don't think so, honey. You cannot take when I am trying to just live my life in the city and walked work down Spring Street. Honey, I don't think so, honey. I am dressed a soul warrior who needs sol umbrella and don't you dare fucking touch my my fucking power of Louis. There's some French for you. I don't think so, honey. That's one minute bow and passion. You had the fire in your thank you. I'm um, you know what that that wasn't my strongest, but I really meant it. But you know what I could tell and I want to let everyone know listening at home, that he meant it. I thank you, thank you so much. Um, So don't you dared? Just don't this happened to be a d c M. Last year someone stolen umbrella. Fuck you d c M. Motherfucker's just as we talked about it. You did. I gotta listen to that episode. It's fun. Okay, Matt Rodgers, are you ready for I don't think so, honey. I'm ready. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Lake Michigan. I went with my boyfriend Henry to visit his parents, and bitch, I rolled up on Lake Michigan, and you look like a ocean. Let me tell you something. If I'm seeing waves caress the sand, I'd better be looking at the Long Island Sound. You're telling me you are fresh water, and you still look like an ocean. Don't funk with me. Also, you could never compete with an ocean because the ocean has much cooler marine life and they're much more dangerous. What's going to be in your lake? Some fucking fat Guess what? In the ocean we have octopus, In the ocean, we have seals, and the ocean we have a whale. And what do you have? Not even sharks? Some of you have alligators and not you like Michigan, because guess what all yours too fucking cold. When I see a big gest body of water and I look out and I can't see the other side of the land. I better smell salt, and if I don't, I'm not gaged five seconds. Let me tell you something like Michigan. Fuck you, I don't think and that's one minute. Wow, this is a historic never before has there been and I don't think so. When he gets the body of water, that's that was that was fantastic. Was just with mac Garring and he says, Hi, by the way, Hi man, and I was telling He asked if I had ever been to Michigan, because I told him Henry was from Michigan. And I was like, yeah, and might tell you. I went to see Lake Michigan and I was shocked because it looked like an ocean, it didn't look like a lake, and because the waves like the way that they appear on the land. I was just like very confused. And so he was like, wow, that sounds like you're upset, and I was like, yeah, that's my I don't think. So it's fantastic and I was gonna do my I don't think so, honey about straight men who come for big little because I see you, I see you, I see you saying you don't like Granada. I don't give a funk if you don't like Granada. I don't like any character and always sunny in Philadelphia. I put up with your ship anyway, coming for all the need to watch it. I gotta come for the Straits. But wait, hold on, before you do this, Big Little Eyes finale has aired, you guys, and it was really amazing, and you gotta watches and Rachel when you haven't been, I'm gonna do I mean, you know what. I'm gonna do it all on here. You should. It's all on HBO, all right. So I'm particularly angry at anything right now, which is weird for me. I'm just I think I'm too tired because I flew in today. So I want you to give me a topic to rand about and I will get angry at it for you. So you guys, I'm digging into the troll Ball, which is a new introduction for Rachel Bloom and I have to give credit to and Dresden who came up with the idea for the troll Ball. Um. But here we go. I'm just digging through. Okay, I got it, all right, I have a good one. Okay, Okay, Well, I don't really know if I should do this, because she's another public figure, So I don't know if I should do this. I was gonna say Mariska hergot but I don't want you to come from Ariska heart attack. I don't know much about Mariska. Okay, So, Rachel Rachel Bloom, I don't think so, honey. He let me just get the time set up. This is going to be good your Rachel Rachel Blues. I don't think so, honey. Is kindergarten go? I don't think so, honey. Kindergarten? What are you? Are you a grade or are you preschool? I thought I was done with this nebulous grading ship in preschool. I think that's what I went to fucking sorry for. When I go to an elementary school, I want to be given a great kindergarten. Also, what's with the German name? I'm Jewish? What are we a bunch of fucking Nazis? Kindergarten? Why don't you just call it like child time? I would much rather go. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. I don't go to an elementary school to be eating brat wars and drinking a rottler, which is what Germans do when they mix beer in sparkling lemonade. I want to eat. I want to eat American food at my child time, and preferably call it grade zero if you're gonna like not number it. And also it's not a garden but child garden child time. I don't think so, honey. Also epic and I never realized kindergarten. It's a German word kinda kinda. I live in America, Yes, I mean, come on, my family is fled Europe. If I wanted kindergarten, I I would have stid honestly. Wait. Speaking of change dot org, I started one as a joke and it became a thing. Don't let the Donald trump animatronic in Disney World speak. I heard this one. Did you did it? Catch team has signatures not nearly enough to change anything, and that animatronic will speak. But I felt good that enough people were like on my side about it. Can you fucking believe that it's disgusting? It's fully gross, terrible, But let's start the change or petition. Now change kindergarten to child time, child time. It's just child Tiid's gonna understand what it means child time, child time, and I think there should be more singing. I think it should be more child time. It's child times town, b it's to the tune of its quiet uptown of town. It's child town. There are moments that that the toys don't read. There's a nap time, impossible to bed. You put your coat up on hook and then you do some um listen, guys, barely ever read? Yes, you can barely ever read, barely ever read? You, guys. I feel like I could talk to you forever. I honestly, Rachel is the best. And if you're not watching Crazy Ex Girlfriend? I mean, what's the overlap of people listening to this podcast and not watching Craziest Girlfriend? You know what? I don't know that that that compliments my show too much. I don't know who's I don't know what. I don't know. You know? Well, okay, so have you started season three? We've started kind of. Aleen and I have started writing it ourselves, like before the room. You mentioned on your Facebook live a couple days ago that you guys had written the first song, yes, which is very exciting. I just can't wait to find out what it is. I can't you find out what the theme song is. Is there going to be a whole new theme song? Yes, Oh my god, balls to the wall, bonkers with how Rebecca is now? Um, that's so exciting. You don't know what your target demo was, the target demos, I just don't know, Like it's overlapping, like people who listened to this podcast, like I don't, I don't know, like the Ranchers in the Person on the Street. You know what, if you listen to this podcast and you know, watch Craziest Girlfriend, don't you dare fucking listen to another episode subscribed? We don't want you. We don't want you your review, honey, we are growing, we're moving on from you. Also, I want to end this was one thought. It's fascinating to watch Big Little Lies and Feud at the same time. There you go. I was going to mention something about Feud being a show about entertainment, which is what we touched. You know what, that's what I want to watch both of them. You should watch both of them because, let me tell you, actually is fascinating to watch them both because we have big Little lies, which is this, like you know, just like I think crowning and treatment of television right now, which is giving all these incredible women these incredible parts. And then to watch Feud, and a central topic of the show is like, there are no roles for us, we must make this work, and to watch them like companion pieces, and so there are companion peoples in the way because you know, Feud discusses that topic so much. And then they're so all the actresses are so amazing, and they're all going to be competing in the same category at the Emmy's and you go online and it's like, no, she's better, No, she's better by the way. Oh that's so interesting. Yeah, it's like, oh my god, Nicole and Rees are both so amazing. I love Big Little Less, I love female friendship. Now who should win? It's so there's this movie um with Kevin Klein called In and Out for many years ago. I haven't watched it in many years, so I'm not sure if it's offensive. Here we go. I watched it about a year ago and it's not. Okay, great. There's a line from it it's Christian who plays who plays Cameron Drake? Matt Dylan, Matt Dylan, Matt Dylan plays Cameron Drake. He's at the Oscars and they go, what do you think of the Oscars? And he goes, I think it's wrong the actors be forced to compete against each other like dogs, and they go, so why are you here in case I win? Yes, it's so good. That movie is great. It's a great movie. Right now? What movie is home? Apho book looking Back? Oh no, Miss Congeniality. With Michael Kane's character, Michael Caine is like his cold character is like gay and like Benjamin Brattol characters like dude, I'm not gay. It doesn't hold up, but Sandra Bullock does hold up in it. Sandra Bullock queen, that movie is great. Although they did steal a line from a League of their Own eyebrows, there should be too, Michael Kane goes, eyebrows, that should be too, And that is a line from a League of their Own in the finishing school scene. And I know what if you listen to this podcast and you like Miss Congeniality, we don't want to, we don't want you to take your view off iTunes. But if but League of their Own is the truth, there you go. My husband and I watched that movie a couple of months ago and we in the marl Of scene, wept. We both wept and and and I'm not I used to be a crier when I was depressed, and now I'm on pros X, I don't cry as much. Um and I wept. Honestly, that movie makes me cry. And this is a little known movie, and we should wrap up. But this We're gonna wrap up with this, the three movies that make us cry, all right. It's a film called Heart and Souls with Robert Downey Jr. And Curius Sedgwick and Alfrey Woodard Alfrey Queen Queen Alfrey. And it's about four people who die in a bus accident and becomes souls in the fifties. And they get attached to Robert Downey Jr. When he's a baby, and they become his guardian angels. And they have to leave him when he's a child because they realize he's they're distracting him. But then they they are involved. When he gets he becomes like an obnoxious adult, and they realize that they can only move on to their afterlife when he helps them fulfill their unfinished business. But he's also got a lot of problems. It's a wonderful movie. It's really kind of cheesy and campy, but let me tell you it will make you weep. Queen Alfrey water rule number one culture Queen and Alfrey waded amazing a top of mind. And I've just been coming up with these basic answers on the last few episodes, like with these quin kinds of questions like finding Nemo gets me every time. I'm sorry, it does. It really truly does, especially when he leaves Dory. Again basic. But I'm owning up to it and that, of course you must, you simply must, Rachel. You know what I well, I haven't seen it in the years, but you know a movie made me bawl my eyes out, the Adam Sandler movie Click. Actually it's snuck up on me and I bawled my eyes out. But I want to add a secondary addendum, which is a redundancy a thing that always makes me cry. Uh is um It's not a movie. It's the episode of Futurama about Fry's dolls. Yes, people talk about that dog looks like my dog, and like, literally just thinking about it, like I get you, truly had a moment like this dog, oh my god, this dog waited for him and literally the spoiler alert, the episode ends with fries dog back in your two thousand, just like it turns out the dog waited for him every single day, and then one day the dog just like lays down and close his eyes, and then the episode. You don't expect that from I am not a crier. But if you talk, if you, if you talk about dead dogs, I can't handle dead dog shit. Don't see Marley and me. I've actually never seen Mary. Yeah, here's I have a dog and it's my She's my first dog. Was this the one that you took in that one time? No, because I remember one time you took in a dog and you like wrote something in Facebook like, hey guys, we found a dog. We found a dog and then we found the owners that night. Good kid. Um No, but but my dog is a rescue and she's like seven and a half now, and and my writing partner very expressly I grew up with dogs and was like, I don't have dogs my own because I can't deal with when they get like old and die. And I'm like, well, my dog will never die. So do you follow old friends sancs very on Facebook? No? What is that? It's a senior Dog. No, No, they're so happy and they're they're having a good time. It's going to make you cry old friends, and they're also sweet guys. Um, I want you all to shut your eyes and I want to say thank you so much for listening to this episode of Last Colture says, and I want to thank Rachel Bloom than you be on our show and that's dying. Um My, guys, my name is Matt Rogers. Thank you, Rachel. We love you. Bye. This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay, and Brett Boum. For more podcasts, please visit Trevor Dog Productions dot com. M