"Nasal & Ridiculous"

Published Dec 18, 2019, 1:30 PM

This week Matt and Bowen are solo in the studio to talk awards season and deliver some news.


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Forever. Look mad oh, I see you? Why why? And look over there? How is that culture? Yeah? Goodness? And I don't think either of us know what this episode is going to be, and that's sort of the beauty of it. Um. Yeah, this this is going to be a fun little meditation, exploration, rumination, a jaunt, a jaunt. This is the first episode that you and I have done, just us and a lot since the beginning, since the first step. If you got back and listen to that, I haven't done it every Now, every once a year I'll go back and listen to the first step just to like here myself, like I'm in a fully different octave. Like the years have like withered me. I think. Do you remember the segment that we used to do, which was Culture of the Week? Culture of the Week, and our bit was that it was always Disney. We were like, we're gonna do a bit called a segment called Culture of the Week, and it's every week it's going to be something about Disney World, the theme park. The winner of Culture the Week is Disney. Again. There, it didn't last. It didn't last. But I mean, I've got to say, not much has changed, No, not really. Besides the doing the topical episodes of it all, like the first episode is called the Grammys, like our pilot episode is called and I do kind of love the Hathic. It's great, you know. And this is just me like being one of those damn trollmongers where I just read the reviews. We both we've both been very open. I read them a lot more than I let on absolutely same and one of them was really nice, uh where they said if you listen to them in reverse order, you kind of like you're able to track how like the friendship grows and they challenge each other. And then I saw that and that made me feel really nice. Suffice it to say, you guys, um, don't panic. Don't panic. Um. There's just gonna be a change with the podcast going forward, and it is a little hard to talk about, but just because it is going to be a major change. But Last Culture Assis is going to be continuing on another network. Yes, we don't know which network, um, but right now we have just figured out that we just want some whatever, not to use this word that's over used, but just space, just space to figure out what makes the most sense for us in terms of how we operate and how Matt and I record episodes on different coasts or when we're on the same coast, and how that all sort of gets organized just operationally. You guys, so much has changed and so much changed about Bowen and Ice day to day, honestly in ways that have I think really blown my mind, you know what I mean? And I don't I think that, you know, four years. I'm sorry, I get emotional as I talk about it. Yeah, yeah, Um, I think it's just oh my god, I can't even believe I'm like this. No. I think the reason it matters so much is because, you know, Joe and Alex are dear friends, and we really did just start this out for fun, I know, and so it's you know, I don't know why it feels like a bigger deal than it has to be, but it is a big deal. I think it's to scale. I think it's um this this might be very self indulgent, but I feel like the relationship that you and I have with Joe and Alex and Emma, um is very very very very very special just because we sort of went through this crucible together well whatever of just like truly building this from the ground up and acknowledging the fact that none of this would have been possible without them, without Network, and seeing forever Dog grows at Network and like acquire all this talent and work on all these amazing projects is so so, so, so so beautiful. Yeah, it's really just very gratifying to know that, you know, we we talked about it sometimes on the pot, but we truly started this. Like in um room um and and Alex would put the mattress up in the window space so that we wouldn't have any sound coming in. This is before this, This is like I think two years before you were even here, um. So and I always like, I'm a little cookie, and I always think like four years is a good time amount of time for things to change. And just with me being in Los Angeles now and you being here and those being kind of like fixed things now, we just need to figure out a new way, a smarter way, um, a more tenable yeah, just wait to way to do this. And we want to try to keep the podcast the same as it can be, you know what I mean. I think that we both love what it is and we don't know where we're going. We should also say that we don't know where we're going. As we said, we love what the podcast is. I think that's why this is what the episod it's going to be. I think we're just gonna like talk about ourselves, cry it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. I feel I feel like it's you're not making it a bigger deal than it is, because it's a big deal for us to it was a it was a really really really really hard decision to come to and and you and it was not like a yeah, okay, let's let's do it. Was It wasn't like a finally, it was like a very kind of like fraught thing. And so suffice it to say that, we just want to say thank you so much to Forever Dog who let us completely do us. It's when it's it's it's it's a it's a place where they didn't presume anything about what a successful show looked like, and they truly we've never gotten any note from them to like dial it down or big episode shorter like that, never like truly creatively no notes like no point where it was like what like nine hours long? But um and also like but that is so special, and you know what I don't know that a podcast with the two of us four years ago called Lost Culture ristas with one with one half a segment which is basically sort of just like a first thought like a minute long rant would have sold anywhere else or um they whatever, they took a chance on us truly and also not for nothing, but um, it's been such a I guess like symbiotic. Is that a positive thing is symbiotic? Okay, it's been a symbiotic relationship because I genuinely feel like we've grown as Forever Dogg has grown. And we know that so many of you guys that listened to Last Cultures also Love Seek Treatment and The Worst and the Unofficial Expert and Beyond and all these amazing podcasts that are on the network. And I think what we want to say is like that we hope to have like a strong positive relationship with all of those podcasts going forward, because it's only like so much love. Um, this is so this is just gonna be an earnest ass, motherfucking episode because I keep thinking about this quote. Someone asked Tony Hale recently, Um, I think was that it was at Vulture Fest. Who is this bitch ringing who is this bitch ringing in? Who is this a bit trying to ring a surprise guest? Um? Yeah, yeah, do whatever you want. Um. Tony Hale was in this interview recently. It was at Vulture Fest, and someone asked him like just generic career advice, and he said something along the lines of like, before you invest in a career, invest in a community, which I kind of blew my mind. I was like, Oh, that's kind of like that's kind of been like the buttress thing that, like, I've been very lucky that we've both been very lucky to have just like absolute friends, just people who like get each other beyond just like Mamma find your trying stuff. It's just like really like people who are different than you. It's not it's this thing where like the network like invested in an all comedy scene that like any other network would have not known what to do with and let them go fucking bonkers, like oh oh, Patty Laura, let you guys want to do a crazy, funked up like it's just like thee and brilliant that show is, Like I'm sure there have been no creative notes from them, you know. It's like like yes, yes, like you have a fucking soundboard, just like press all the buttons. Like yeah, it's like I don't think I don't think any other network would have really just like given completely free domain into anybody, just anybody, but like especially people in that and that and that sort of And there's a high bar now, there's a high bar. Now. Not all of us can be. Not all of us can be a woman's smile, not all of us can be for a musical for us, for us. Yeah, but to meat now forever dog isn't just fielding all pitches. No, honey, you're a pitch. Better be sented, give something extra home, give it something extra, make a butterfly flight out of the invitation like in Bridesmaids. Um. But yeah, I know it's it's very emotional to be like back here like tonight, I'm I'm doing my show, and you know, I feel like it's just so crazy how everything has changed, you know, Like I think about like when we started the podcast and we were just like trying to get a run at you c be in trying to get yeah, and you know, um and and we would be and we would record an episode every month. It was well, we were so bad about we were so about recording them. But also and god, I mean just Alex and Joe were like, maybe you guy should like do like one episode of a week, like let's talk about like let's release schedules and all this stuff. And we're like whatever, I remember saying to you a couple of times, like we owe them an episode. We have to go on, and we we're like way behind. We said we would do this, and then for like and then fast forward like two and a half years of weekly episodes NonStop, like you know, we've been going and like I haven't felt any sort of fatigue around. No, I still love doing this. This is this is my favorite thing. This is this is um yeah, this is like career highlights for me too, I think. And it's just like um, and I'm an am using present tense like this is like I mean, yes, the don't panic sort of message from that Matt just sort of like called out in the beginning like that's that's that's that's real. Like this this show shows by no means over um are again a relationship with Forever Dog is by no means over um. It's just about sort of distributing it, planning it logistically and we really don't even know how we're going to do that, and that's going to be part of the fun, is you know, like I'm sure that um, as we do continue on, like whoever we start to partner earth is going to have more ideas and is going to have you know, probably good ones, probably ones that don't work. But I think that's what that's part of what makes this, you know, not just a podcast but an extension of of me and Bowen as like comedians, is we're going to be trying things out, and um to be honest with you, like I was always like kind of crazed about this idea of you and I are recording remotely just because I am so fearful that the energy won't be there. But truly, it's got to the point now where it's like, I don't know how else we will do it, but we will. Okay, this is this is some like inside baseball, not inside baseball, but this is just like a peek into like the discussions that we have and generally is that Matt and I are article not currently but like in the recent past have been have I sort of been at this discussion point around well if we like here, here's it's like a pick two. Okay, so you picked two, you so you release one episode a week, you record in in the same studio, and you make a topical. So you pick two, you can't make a topical. And if you want to make a topical and record every week, you can't be in the same coast. Yeah. I don't know what's better. I would actually honestly love to hear from everyone. Yeah. To be honest with you, would you rather hear us? Um? Would you rather feel like? Because I always feel like last Culturing is this as we have like a creative discussion with you. Honestly, that is really what makes the show is we want I love to hear I love. I love to hear good bad, even like the shitty review is like stung it first, but now I read them and I'm like, okay, it's it's an exchange. Um. So I would wonder because for me, the podcast is we bring in the guests, we find out about their cultural upbringings, beginnings, influences, and a conversation starts from there and we also contribute to that, um with some light topical takes with I don't think so, honey, But doesn't necessarily have to be topical. But I also do think there's something really um great about being able to give fresh takes on things as they happened, like, for example, what are you thinking of? I have one example that I love, like for example, well, there's the amar Rossa episode. So basically when we recorded that episode with Io and she had come in and it was which, by the way, in retrospect, was not a big deal. Really it was just another day of the news cycle, but for that week it dominated. Yes, but when omar Rossa touched down, when Hurricane amar Rossa hit the damn coast, and we were emphatic that we had to release the episode that day. That actually was one of my favorite episode. That was one of my favorite episodes to spend and like a really formally experimental episode where we started out with Omer the omar Rosa interview. Yes, that was experimental for us, very experimental media. Anyone who ever doubted him Donald's disagreed, disagreed, will bow wait? What does she say? We'll have to bow down to the most powerful man in the universe? What a psycho? I love it. It's so funny and destructive and terrible and like got an ultimately, like ultimately yeah, yeah. But so there's that, And then there's also the fact that, like sometimes we release episodes that y'all don't even know we did a month and a half and they ver fine, but I think that you got You guys can tell when sometimes they can tell. I'm always embarrassed when I hear myself, like, for example, the Gina Rodriguez. Sure, okay, let' let's talk about the genius that was so annoying you guys, because not your fault. No, it was because now, well, I I should have I shouldn't know better than to risk trusting someone as a volatile as miss Rodrigue. She could at any second turn around and say a damn slur. It apparent. It is apparent now sure, But I was always very suspicious of her. After her Hollywood report around tables, I was like, something's going on there? Really were you really were you did say that? And I was like, and stop, I really, I really was very dismissive of your reservations about Gina Gina Trutherism. Yeah, I was just like, there's something going like she's there's a little bit of mania going on there, definitely, and like which is beautiful and like it's great, Like, please let that exist as it is unless she slips up and wraps to the wraps the N word and posts like you have to have so many missing filters in your brain to be like yes and now we post post post. You can't do that. Um but okay, so the gena thing. But I think you have nothing to be embarrassed about. Well, it was just I literally said the words I stabbed Gina Rodriguez like the week after, the week after that happened. And then people like it wasn't even the first it wasn't even the first day they were giving me ship. It was like two days after the episode. They were like, wow, that's crazy that you said that, and I was like, wait what, And then I thought everyone was like, well, it's obvious that you backloud because you announced the date in the beginning of the episode. But still I don't want that out there, and so I promptly didn't. I don't think so, honey. Gina Rodriguez on the next show, which happened to be Top a Cow was top Account. Well, I gotta ask you, is it annoying? Because I feel like I'm usually the person who's like recording this on this date and it doesn't annoy me. I actually no, now, now it's kind of saved my life that day. Otherwise I would have been understanding Gina Rodriguer fresh office slur context. No, no, no chronological context. I think. So it's was what was the pick two? Again? It was uh same Coast topical weekly release. I mean, I guess, I guess ideally for any like any old podcast, it's like, ideally what you'd want is that both of us in the same spot doing it. We have a fixed point every week or we do it, but that is now not legitically feasible, So I don't know. I think we just figure it out with with whoever we are with. Yeah, are you? Um, here's the thing. I feel like your sticking point is still we have the magic, the chemistry has to be in the room, in the same physical space. Can I tell you another reason why why I like this is because something I realized about myself and I'll reveal this to you, which is why when we whenever we interview people together, why I like to sit on the outside is because I get very nervous still with people that I'm that we're about to interview. Does it I get anxious? Is it? Is it mitigated in any way if you are talking to them from across the computer screen? Well, yeah, that would be. But what about that? But I'll be in Los Angeles, which is where a lot of people we haven't gotten lived, and then they're going to come in and like, Julius, it's gonna be me and Julia Styles and then like you're gonna be on a on a damn computer thirty seconds before we start, and it's gonna be like, Hi, that's bowen. Yes, yes, yes, And I've been sitting there with Julia Stalls for six or seven minutes pretense, pertence, even fifteen. I totally hear you. I get a little skittish. I get it. I get it. Like I see. I literally watched last night the episode of you on est and NOL and you like hugging Scarlett Johansson and making that face of like, oh my god, this was so fun by like, I was just like, how how do you do it? Because because we just to spend time all week and that's just like that's just like that was just like a full culmination of that. By the way, on the record, I'll say it really really cool to be around scar Joe like a good hand. Imagine us three years ago like listening to this whatever hearing us be like we stand and you have to hear people out. I mean no, I mean look, no, she's she's a great fucking SNL host. Oh. I was a good episode. It was a fun episode. Where where are you with the whole Oscar's race? We had a little discussion about this in the text spread today. You think it's going to be Renee. You well, you said that you believe that Scarlett will win an Oscar. I think she'll definitely get the nomination. I think she's going to get to nomination. Jo. I think she'll get a nomination from Marriage Story. I support her nomination, and Rabbit, I support her nomination. Now, I just it's it's for me. It's I was on Film Experience today, Yes, as I've been, as you've been. Really, it's this is such a fun time of year for all of this, of course, but especially on Film Experience. Yes, of course, it's the Experience dot Net season season and uh, just reading up on what Nate's been saying, um, and he seems to think that Renee's a lock yes, I would agree Rene's a lock, but I feel like it's it's not super crowded this year. And did you see I did not see Judy. Okay, so as someone who saw Judy, let me tell you it is an absolutely stunning ten of a performance, absolute six of the film, which to me is like, you know, they say that matters less with the Best Actress nominees, but not and not so with the Best Actor. No, kind of like films that get nominated for Best Picture often scoop along their lead actor performances, which, by the way, lead actor is very competitive, very competitive. This year, I will say last night I saw another Best Actress contender. I saw Bombshell. Um. So the thing about Bombshell is and I love all the actors in it, and what a cast, what an amazing Darcy Darcy's in it in the film, very good performances pretty much all around. It is a TV movie. It's like it's like it's I wouldn't need and give it like game change level or like recount level, but and and those are both and those are TV those but but but I'm saying, like those are HBO films. This to me felt like so like an HBO film, not even it's it to me, it was it was like that pedigree was like on screen. I just I feel like I've always had a lot of trepidation about this movie coming out because it's about Fox News, and while I think what happened to the women there is tragic and fucked up and Roger Els was a monster, it's I guess there there's an interesting take there to be found about how like, yeah, you know what it's it's so weird to think, what is the message of this movie, even even after seeing it. You use right, because obviously sexual harassment is is acceptable nowhere right, right, but it is interesting to see it happening to these women. Um, but I wish the movie had more of a take. I just wish it was thrillingly told or like super dramatically compelling or or even really emotional it was did you feel like it was presenting you with like an array of like takes or anything, or it was it was it was kind of just like misogyny happens, it happened here, Sexual harassment happens, it happened here. And it's like I almost felt like like we're we're we're past that in the in the cultural discussion. You know what, maybe it had something to do with like the Megan Kelly of it all. But you thought Charlie's was great. Charlie's was good. She was good. My problem with the movie, though, is that Megan Kelly is a figure like I wish it. I wish that I got a better sense of her, you know what I mean. I didn't get a good sense of her. I got that she was good at her job, and they sort of hinted that she didn't like being called a feminist and like was allergic to that word, and she kind of like definitely had a difficult time with the uh sort of threats to her safety and her family safety that came along with the Trump thing after she asked the debate question of him. But I don't know. In like seeing her gather support at Fox News against Roger Ales, I felt like it could have been more dramatically or compelling. Lee told how she got to that point as a person, from being like a company woman to being the kind of person who was like, let's bring down my boss, the man who gave me a career. But correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like the story just in the journalism journalism of it always that it was mostly Gretchen, who is sort of And this is where I think the movie could have done with a little bit more dramatic embellishment. I think we could have had more scenes with Nicole and Charlie's because there's almost none. Yes, and so like for example, like um like uh Mary Queena Scott's. You know, they didn't have real scenes together in life, but you saw them because it was dramatically compelling. This movie was an article. It was literally like an like an like a like like a feature in like like somend like a huge bomb trall. Yeah, it was like a New York magazine article come to life. And which is other movie Hustlers. But even but Hustlers was like fun to watch. This movie wasn't even fun to watch. It was it was. It really should have been, too, because it looks like it's gonna be I mean that trailer that they showed, which was just them in the elevator, so that's a whole scene from the film. Oh interesting, But there's like no dialogue, very little, and but I loved that because you could feel the tension and I was like, I wish this was more imbued in the movie, the sense of like anything could happen, Yeah, the sense of steaks, like the whole story is just all steaks, right, So that's that's so, what's that's that's probably what sobas are to you. And there's a yeah, and that's that's that's the thing. There's a couple of really good scenes in the movie, um and they both have Margot Robbie. And Margot Robbie is really good in the movie. UM better when she has big stuff to play, I think, but like you're talking about, like, yes, I think that's when she's got a character to play. She's really really good. Um. And she she creates herself a character here and this this uh young woman who comes to Fox News and she really wants to be on camera talent and it's like sort of willing to do anything within bounds to get there. And Roger Els presents the situation that that she finds herself in and it's obviously it's harassment, it's and it rises to a certain level. I won't spoil any o these two scenes. Two good scenes happen with her, which is the scene where she is talking to John Lithgow as Roger Ailes and he's saying to her, you know, there's there's certain things I need to see or have proven to me if I gonna consider you on air as on their talent. And then you do see it play out a little bit, just how uncomfortable the situation that's and and and and you see the the harassment that's I mean, that's I'm gonna say, that's like very interest's compelling, right, And then there's a scene later when she reveals to Kate McKinnon how far she's let it go on. And and those are two really compelling scenes. And and Margot Robbie had like an arc. My problem is that like the movie sort of just sort of tells the real story of Fox News in its way, and they break it up between these three characters where it's like Gretchen Carlson making a stir and basically she gets fired from Fox News. And then Nicole spends the whole about to the film, like on the phone in her kitchen in a thin sweater, like just kind of like, well, what's happening now? And you don't know? And then Megan Kelly the whole time is like sort of slowly being fed up with the patriarchy and realizing she has to do something like she find like does the right thing and stands up for women. But it just wasn't dramatically compelling interesting interesting, interesting, um and what my last point about it? Sorry, I'm just listening to you, and iuse I haven't seen anything, but I think I'm curious to think what what you'll you'll think when you see because for me, it just it didn't work and it could have been so great. My other's big thing with this movie is they make such a big deal about making Charlie's there on like indistinguishable from Megan Kelly, like just makers look so much like oh my god, her face looks like she does like just like trailer much like her, and and she's very much doing Megan Kelly, and she exists in the film like as Megan Kelly in this way where it's like a very about the impersonation, whereas Nicole isn't doing a Gretchen Carlson doesn't look like her to the point where it's like you got one person doing a full caricature and one person who as a result of that, she just looks even more Miscastay, are you at a point now of Nicole fatigue or now, I don't ever have Nicole being critical. I will always call things as they see them. Yes, like the nomination and yeah, I'm here the Nicole nomination for bombshell for SAG is like what well for doing what? It's like the nomination for God what some some Oh SAG is whack. It's like the Morning Show nominations at the Golden Globes. Yeah, oh yes, that's right. These are all bought. Yeah, and it's well, they're bought. And also it's like actress voting for who they love and respect well for for SAG, SAG. I get Nicole, but I'm talking about globes. It's gloves are working wild this year. I'm sorry I can publicly say that the gloves are wild and we're we're what not egg shasel that Bowen can publicly say, I that's the big change unshackled. Um. I think. I mean, I just I truly like glanced at the nominee the nominees for Golden Globes, and I was just like, okay, Like I truly was like I haven't really revisited because it just it was just so upsetting. Yeah, I was like, what the fuck really like and truly not just not to be a damned portman about it, but like the director's thing is crazy. It's so foolish, foolish. I look at the list this year and I'm so not excited about it because it's so like male, Like, what is I don't know what is that? But I mean, but fucking Nate's putting it on his prediction index for OSCARS. I saw that, and it's getting nominations everywhere, and I'm like, what is it. I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure once we see it will love it. Yeah. Well, Chris Schniker was explaining it to me. It's like, well, we're the World War One movie, and I'm like, oh god, hard the hardest pass, the hardest pass. I mean, it's it's for the dads. We've gotta give it to the dad. You gotta give it to that. You give something to the dad. But the gays are eating really well and are fed. The gays are fed. I gotta see Portrait of a Lady on Fire. Oh I heard it, um, I gotta have. You still haven't seen Parasite yet? No? Oh my god, Matt, what are you doing? It's it's I heard it the best movie of the year. I can't stop thinking, what else have you seen that you've liked or not liked? Because I just went off. I haven't. I haven't. I haven't been good so far, just because I feel like it's just such a condensed season. It feels like, um, just in terms of the length. But I feel like you've been getting your screeners. They are my department. I got to pick them up. But I really loved, really loved marriage story. I love marriage story. Really. I saw Jojo Rabbit, The Jojo Rabbit, a marriage story like like the last two like buzzy movies that had a Scarlett A than I just just very unconsciously, subconsciously um talk about marriage story. Study said something really fun to me last night. She goes, the people who like don't get marriage to are people who don't understand the bomb back sort of tone. And the whole thing about bomb Back is that he is he is very self aware about what the movies are like. Do you see Mrs America No actually looks Cuckoo Lukuen movie where Greta Gerwick is being like a full assid weirdo eccentric and uh Lola kirk Is being is like sort of the great like sort of uh you know, um surrogate for the audience and stuff. It's it's like has some great Vesica scenes. I loved um. And it's just like it's one of those movies that's just it feels like a Neil Simon play. It's just like so like self contained, but also it's it's just a weird, bizarre movie that you're like, oh, like Capital I Indie and then but then you realize that it's like it's self aware in this way where it's like he knows that it's just like pretty frivolous and like that the that the writing is like out there and wacko and um whatever. And so I feel like it's the same thing with marriage Story, where it's like he knows that it's a very like small all movie in a way. Right, Well, it's really it's really about two people in their relationship and what happens when they m consult the outside forces it's not working. I I really I loved it, and people have just pointed out actually that it's just like sort of the great thing about it is that it's not placing blame on anybody it's just like you just it's just it's just it's just what happens. Well, they spoiler alert they have a major fight, which which honestly, it's now kind of coming back to me in a way. Um, rightfully, so it's pretty iconic. But as they're ripping each other apart, which they've never done, you realize how much is in the script. Yes, there is so much in that script that's set up to that in the lead up to that fight. Yeah, yeah, And honestly, you realize how kind of good they've been about hiding their feelings, you know, to keep their kid out of it and to not hurt each other. And then when they stop caring about that and really go for each other, it's like, I mean, Adam Driver, Adam Driver is wildly very very good and also saying all those things that you don't mean, like that really like hit a chord with me that and also, um, the end of the movie when she goes to tie his shoe, I was like, this is so that's really really beautiful, just to show that you're never going to stop caring about the person and not wanting that person to like fall down, you know what I mean. Obviously, the letter. The letter was just like you you knew it was important, you knew it was like, Okay, she's not saying this, she doesn't want to read this aloud, like you knew it was going to come back in some way. But like the way it came back wasn't like super clever or anything. It wasn't trying to be like mind blowing. It was just like very effective and elegant. I love that really really good. And I'll say again, I think Scarlett's great in it. I think Adam is just his his acting while when he's reading that her and that pause he takes just to get himself together, like he's like a real, real, real actor. Yes, yes, I could have probably done without the scene of him singing being alive. I don't think the movie needed that, but you got it kind of mirrored Scarlet singing musical the Sondheim thing too. Oh yeah, sure, I think I think it's kind of just like, yeah, I think that was kind of the device. Was not that it was a device, but that was sort of like the yeah, yeah, sure, the little thing. But um, what do you think of Dern She was great. She's so good that she was great. Leota was great. They were all, God that she's a stand up. She's so funny. The Martha Kelly, the Kelly that was like a sketch. It was so funny. And I was like, this is a great comedy piece in the movie, Like it's so fun Honestly, she was so good in the movie. And I've known Martha for for a little while. You've known Martha. I actually you know what, Me and Pat competed against Martha in boast Rattle, Oh my god. And who's she paired with? She was paired well, she was paid for someone that she beat, and then there was someone else, and then me and Pat were paired against each other, and the audience decided to take us both to the finals. So me and Pat faced off against someone. And I'm so sorry, and not forgetting Martha and Martha one, of course, she's just so compelling to watch, so good, so good, You're like, who is this? This is such an interesting character, like who is that? And also just like you can feel not in this, not in a pejorative way, but you can feel like her booking in the audition, you know, when she came with the choice on the castom people were like, yeah, sure, that everything also not for nothing. But I identified with Laura's energy in this you. I was thinking about you the whole time. I was like, this is Matt Rodgerson, I was I identified with I'm gonna say it's Scarlett. I identified with Scarlett just in the way that I'm just like really reserved. And I was like, I don't really know how to express how I feel in this relationship, like you know what, I really like loved about it, like long scenes like I love like and also just like that's weird choice to have Scarlett like walking around the apartment sort of like fuxing with things and she's telling her story to Laura and she is amazing and Laura goes, honey. I was like, this is like so just like a long block of text and then oh yeah, it's the Minka honey just stuck in there. You know what? You know who? You know who Laura Dern is and that movie she's both of us because the Minuka honey is me. I wouldn't know what the honey was called. Have you ever had Minuka honey? Um? Anytime you? Oh, actually, before your show, swallow a bit of Manuka honey. We'll go to hold you know, like Greta has like organic honey in her apartment, but the Manuka honey is special because it's it's pollinated from a flower that only grows in New Zealand and it has like these like just healing properties, let's just say. And it's like it's it's it's it's not like full on like homeopathic, but it's just like I remember I was that was really sick when my family visited visited Australia New Zealand last year, and the girl was like, yeah, just take a take a take a spoonful and you'll be fine. And I did it and it was anyway. Um, well, the background on that is I'm kind of panicking because my voice is feeling a little scratchy. Sound great, Well, I have my show tonight. I did this to last week. I was pan nicking the day of, in the day before and the day before my show, and I had a huge canker sre like in the back of my mouth, like on my throat and it was like gnrtally and I couldn't phone ate and I was like truck. But then my show at the Hollywood and prov was great, great, that's perfect. Um, And of course. I feel like it's gonna be the same thing tonight. Everyone's going to be so excited to see you. I literally was like texting and chard before like being like I'm depressed. You're like are you? Are you? I'm feeling a little down. Yeah. I think it's it's this. It's it's just this, this is this has been a downer for me just or just and by this, I mean they forever dug of it all. Yeah, it's bum it bombs me out. I think it's that. I think it's coming back to New York and like feeling like like, um, New York is like happening with without, which is so dumb, so dumb, but also just like just sometimes like at the end of the year, you know, you do take stock of like how much has changed, Like you know, like I feel like I haven't even um like I'll say this, this will be an admission, so like I feel like I haven't seen you in a while. And sometimes I like sometimes I like see the things that you're doing and I'll think to myself like, oh, I wonder what it was. I wonder like what funny thing happened in creating that, you know what I mean? Like and then I think probably likewise for you. For me, it's like it's hard when you come from a place of doing everything together to then see that person doing something different and it's not it's not I want to stress, it's not about like jealousy. It's not about like anything to do with that. It's truly just about like, oh there's like my like person doing that. How you know what I mean. That's like it's been a little bit different to be separated from you like that, and it's it's it's it's just part of it, you know what I mean. I don't know that it is though, do you mean? And I don't, but I don't know that it's a part of it to like accept it because I don't know I'm not accepting it, like you know what I'm saying, Like I think about you, there's like a specter of you like everywhere. Like I said that to Jared too, I was like, I know that, like it's it's it's kind of cool to watch because like a little part of me isn't is in it because you literally said a little bit bitchy I know you did, and that was like a Suti pitch and she was like she was like, can we say that? I was like, well, it's it's like it's like Matt's joke and we're like we can was like, did you do you feel okay with that? I didn't feel like it was taken from me if that's but I definitely heard it and I was like, oh my god. And then I felt like it felt like a little shout out, you know what I mean. But then like there's things all the time and the stuff that I'm doing, like I'm seeing, I'm seeing for what it's worth, I'm seeing you and you're working on a lot of very good things, and I well, yeah, I's only have this like aching feeling of like oh my god, I would be so happy just just to like make something with you, like on on like a on a different like Cadence and on a different like clip where it's like being in a being in a writer's room with you, Like I've never had that, Like I I can't imagine what that's like in like it's like you know what, And because these collaborations, I think about this all the time. Still, it's like falling in love. It's like you meet your people and then there's just this magic and I know for a fact that like you're like you're like the one you know, Well, my thing too is just like sorry as I sound so nasal and ridiculous, um, nasal and ridiculous both, It's just like, um, I think we were just like perhaps unnaturally codependent, just because I don't think we're I don't think we were ever actually codependent, though we'll explain we were. Never it would it never got to a point where it like it was so poisonous and like the tuperative we get into. But it was never a thing where it was like it was never it was never a thing where we were like enabling or disabling each other from doing things that like we we truly on an individual level, wanted to do. Yeah. No, I don't even I'm not talking about it like in a pejorative or negative way when I say the word codependent, which I think the word codependent like is inherently like a little negative. I guess what I mean is like, um, when these situations, when when it's such a volume of success together and then like those things split off, it's it's you question, like how much of this am I actually able to do by myself or not? By myself with people, you know what I mean, Like I I think all the time, like, um, would I be more dynamic on stage right now if Bowen was here? Can I do this by myself? Like even like I all throughout this year, you know, I don't perform as much, and it it's it doesn't bother me actively because I'm working and for the first time ever, I'm like working on things in television like I'm officially like but from my in my third room like and so it's like that's azing and I'm very grateful for that, but it does come at like a it doesn cost there. I I don't get up on stage anymore, to the point where like now when I am up there, there's this little piece of me that's like can I still do this? And I still remember how to do this? And then the only time I'm really comfortable when we jump back in is I'll say game show with Dave and with you when whenever we do a last school juries this show. But truly, it's like I've never had this, I've never had this thing where it's like you and I all just be like, okay, yeah, sure we'll host this thing. And then we just planned go up on stage just like talk and somehow we debatedly make it work or just for something for the audience. For I'm sure some people what the fun is going on, but I for what it's worth, I have that thought every single day going into work. You think that we're just about you. I'm just like, no, it's true. Well I mean out full that out, like I think I feel comfortable saying this now, but it's like last year it was like so crazy for us to do that. So here the t is. I also tested for Saturday Night Live twice with Bow and they put us in the same fucking dressing room and we were running our stuff and they were we were both on hold for six months and we couldn't work. We couldn't work, and I every single day of those six months I had like a fantasy of just us being on the show. I had that fantasy too, of course, and then like when it but I will say this, like I think it. I think the way it worked out and the way things are working out is meant to be. And who's I mean, who's to say that it's not that it's not still in process of working out? Well? Who care? Just not even not even in terms of like the shows that were like the things that we're working on. It's just like it's still this is just like part of our friendship, our collaboration or whatever. But I just I just have to put it out there every day. I think this would be so much more fun if I was here. Well, I mean I think that about all the stuff that I do. I mean, like, I have such a cool I have a very cool job right now, which is I'm writing on the animated series Q for Us, which is going to be on Netflix. And the room is like so great, it's gably had been created it. Megan Amram is there, guy Brandon selvestr Ira, like it's lies a die so funny, like these great people. Sean Hayes is gonna my god, we love games assistant um and you know, Sean Hayes is going to be the lead character. And as it's just what they're coming up with is so funny, like to be able to even in some small way, be a part of the other two. Whenever um that comes out, I'll be so excited to see it. And you know, to have game show coming out, which is my literal creation. God willing Quimby pops off. Please download what Happens watch the Steven Spielberg. Weird to be doing these things without you. It's it's it's so strange, actually, you know it would be kind of cool, is I feel like you would be so much better in the room I'm in now. Then then I for script for scripted stuff. I'm just like, um, maybe that character talks to this character who was mentioned in the second episode, Like scripted is hard, just so fucking hard. Script is hard. There's so much more ship going into it than you think. You don't much to track a serialized narative. It's so much, but it's fun. It's like a puzzle. You crack a puzzle with every episode, with the whole arc or whatever. But when things come together, it feels really good. It's so great. I I here's what I'm gonna say. It wouldn't it be cool if just like we are on these different tracks now, But then of course, like there's no way that we don't meet back up. We're still like we're still together. I mean that's the thing, because it's like it's no one's dead, you know what I mean, Like we're going to a different network. But I did think that That's one of the reasons why I wanted to do this episode just the two of us. I think you agree. It's just like we haven't done that, and I feel like so much has gone on and change and I do feel like, um, you know, as weird as that is to say, like I think about people that have listened to us from the beginning, you know what, there's like, there's like a good like any of you out there. The numbers came in, we got I got the numbers through SoundCloud. SoundCloud when when the pot first started, and truly like the hits were like eight seven people listen to this Like that's crazy, that's like more than that's who would come to and I'd be like, that's great. And so we were clocking you maybe some people have fallen off, who knows, but like I'm sure, but we're clocking like like we know, we know the people who have just like been in on the ground floor. But some people really have listened to this for four years, and that is that's very you know. I wonder how we sound changing and stuff. I guess we have it if we haven't want to be bored at ninety years old. But also like this, this is a little look, this is a little document of like something going forward. You know, it's like we're gonna we can listen back to this and be like, oh god, remember when we were talking about bombshell and panicking about our careers, like, oh my god, just just feeling abandoned by each other. Not abandoned, but you know what I'm saying, like feeling like we're missing a part of ourselves without the other. Um. I will say, it's been interesting to navigate and negotiate gets shared on the pot and what doesn't. Some things are just personal. But like with the snl of it all, that was so insane to go through that and still be like that that close, that was that was whack. That was out. I gotta listen back to the episodes when we were going through that. Oh gosh, I think we did a pretty good job. We did a pretty good job of just what keeping keeping it under wraps or yeah, well, my thing is always like I had to negotiate. Like what I was kind of going through at the time was like I was sort of figuring out if I was embarrassed to say that I didn't get it or like, you know, like especially like I think when you do something as a twosome all the time as a duo and then one person like and I think honestly, earlier in our twenties, maybe you felt this way towards me when was getting like JFL and being put on house to it kind of makes you feel like when you are not the one who's popping off at the time, it kind of makes you feel like, well, no one's here to see me anyway, you Like, it's kind of like, you know what I mean, Like you do as as a symptom of being who we are and like being as close as we are. If you don't have those moments where you're like comparing yourself to the achievement of other person, that's wild. You shouldn't do that. You shouldn't do that. But then you are constantly focusing on the lack of the thing that you're seeing the other person getting. Yeah, So this is a funny story that I want to say. And I was gonna say, I honestly was going to save this for like a book, Oh my god, but I do want to this is like, this is such a funny story about when we when we tested for U S and L. So the second time when we we were the only ones they put in the same well the first time we were the only man, which was wild. There was like leventeen girls and us and it was in March, and it was whack was Chloe there too? Yes? That was not Chloe yet? Are you sure Chloe was? Oh? I think Chloe was there anyway. Regardless, were the only two boys. And then they kept us on hold for like the next six months and we were like only it was like six of us that they had yet I think I don't know how you felt, but I really felt like, oh my god, like this could this could happen? Yeah? Like when did when did it kick in for you that it could happen? Um? Because you you went in four times. I went in the summer of seventeen, and that was just such It felt like such a fluke. Like they were like, can you do this? My manager at the time was like, you want to do the showcase for Fessility? Do you want to put it together a tape? I was like sure, not thinking it was now, and then went over to our beautiful friend Doug Whiteck's apartment like shout out five minutes of characters. UM put it together, sent in my tape. Then I get I get a call like, hey, do you want to do the showcase that you see B. I'm like yeah sure, UCB Chelsea r I P like yeah sure. I mean not a chance in how they would ever hire an Asian person or uh East Asian person or like a gay man, like this will never fucking happen. Meanwhile, I had just come off JFL and crushed and they said they didn't want to see me at the showcase and I was like, that's the first what that was? That was? It was so salty, stupid and I am so sorry no, but that was that again, was like at the moment, of course, because if you remember three months prior, you were just writing high No I had got your you would gone JFIL and I hadn't Yeah, And I was like, what the fuck? It was just such, it's it's always it's it's so like, it's so it sucks to have to like not compete, but you're all trying to get the same stuff. When you're in New York and doing comedy. It's like SNL is sitting that's right there. And if they say if they say like hey, maybe you you freak the funk out. I gotta I might have to like slam the brakes on, like like it's like like talking about it or just like at least like what do you think about it? About just posting about im? Just like, oh, this is just like dangling something in front of like a group of people who are like, I don't know, I have this weird feeling about like I have to say with you. I think it's different. I don't know why, but I feel like I can totally understand. Can I tell you what? I don't love this new kind of era of people saying I wrote this. It's like that is not the way it has been. Like I understand that with social media it's different, but like and whatever, if it's really your voice or whatever, like and you're super super proud of it, whatever, say that. I just I'm a little bit of a purist with that show. And it's like you never never writers wrote, wrote wrote anything. It just kind of belonged to the show and the performers did it and it was decorum and it was just that and maybe you would go up to the writer twenty years later and be like, did you write? And that's that. James Anderson of at all. But with you, I feel like because you were, like, I feel like you connect with the people that listened to this pod to follow you on Instagram and follow you on Twitter and have been fans of yours like, and you connect with them through social media and so like they I think as someone who is like, if I wasn't your best friend, I would be your fan, I would want to know what you were contributing. So in a way, that's all changing. But it's a little bit of an adjustment for me as like an SNL purist whenever anyone's like, amazing experience writing this with the incredible this and actually that's fair, that's fair, That's totally fair. But that's me having maybe too much fucking reverence. No, no, no, I got it. What's your story? I'm sorry, I know I was. I was asking you when when you felt it could happen for you, But then that was kind of veering off. You were about to tell a story about that when we the story? Okay, so yes I did, and I'll get back to what. Yeah, So the story is this is the second time I had tested and the I guess the fourth time you had, and I think they thought, well, they're so close, let's put them in a room. Let's put them in the same dressing room. Which, honestly, when you put two people that are so so so close in a high stake situation like that, we were pretty good. But I'll never forget because this this week they did a sketch of you as the choking victim on the thing. So you were doing the choking victims and we were rehearsing our bits and so the whole there was like a period of where you were just practicing. I was like, oh, and I'm sitting next to you, like, at what point do I like interrupt his process of like trying out different chokes to say that I can't focus? Oh no, but no, no, no, no, no, it was not. It ended up being only funny because I turned you and I was like, are you literally crazy? And you were like and you laughed and you were like what. I was like, I think that any of those chokes will work, you bitch. Oh my god, that's so funny. What a wacko moment. I can I share my memory of that day? Yes, and of you and me in that dressing room. Oh my god. I was getting super into meditation at the time as as a way to as a way to sort of deal with the nerves, because and I have this weird superstition now where I have to meditate every Saturday U and I think it helps. I didn't know that. Yeah, I meditated every Saturday like at like five pm um and then just like ten minutes. But then I was But then I remember my first time I went in like to Shear, I like emails to Sheer. I was like, do you have any tips? And She's so perfect and nice and so so so informed, like just helpful, and she was like, if you don't have them already in in a pair of I can always canceling headphones. I was like, okay, great. She's like, you will be like hearing people running their running their auditions in the next room. It's gonna drive you crazy. And I was like great. And then I and then I meditated to like a focus oriented meditation and then kept it going like that was my superstition. I was like, well, the thing that's seen me through all this is like I've meditated before going up on stage for those auditions. And then when we were together in that dressing room, I was just trying to practice like feeling my feet and like feeling like my body and like just having an awareness of like where I was and whatever this mindfulness bullshit. And then you were just pacing around the room. And then I was like I was like like I was like, man, maybe like try I might not have I might have been a bit about it, but I was like, I was like, you should like tried it and like maybe like breathe or like feel your feet, like stand in one place, feel your feet, feel like do a body scan, like see how you feel. And you were like, no, no, I'm a patient. This is this is this is my process. This is how I work. Like okay, okay, you should honestly like put our assences into the on space perfect. I can't believe they put us in the same room. It was so funny, honestly, but wow. And then I remember like when it went the way it went like that was um, it was like it wasn't It was truly like I don't know. I almost don't even know how to start my feelings out about it at that time because it was like there was a three week period of just true depression like where where it was like I know, it's important that I feel this because I felt like the it's and this is still at the time when it's like not getting it as only a failure and you know what that's like, of course, because you had tested twice the year before. So then like that feeling of just true depression and then like coming out of it, like I don't even know how to described it was if it does it feel a few gate it feels like it was a full feel. This is crazy to say, and I know it's not true, but it feels like nothing will ever really upset me again. That's probably that much because I've I've been to the place where I physically let myself get as low as I could get, like it was so much emotional energy invested in something that situation is not for everyone, not for everyone, and I think I'm kind of a brick house. When that decision came down and I figured out what was happening it, I felt the blood leave my legs. I had to lay down for truly three weeks. It was just and that's when I realized it was emotional energy that I had been storing up for like ten years, but it's all waiting for that I was gonna I was gonna say like your whole fucking life, honestly, probably because that was it was always the cultural thing. And now I can say, like after not getting it, and I am, and I am, I'm so happy that you're there and so happy the studio is there. I'm actually really happy. I'm not. Yeah, I'm really happy. I'm not. That's that's great, that's great. Actually, that's really cool. Are you patronizing? It's like because I think i'd I think i'd rather just be doing the stuff I'm doing and seeing where it goes because the routine is not really yeah, I know, I don't know. A routine will always A routine will always end up sort of flipping over and you're going to see the underbelly of chaos the whole time. A routine is never routine is an illusion of of orderliness because it's actually everything is always going to be chaotic, like truly, like this week was fucking chaos for me. It seems like that. I think maybe that's what I'm reacting to, is just I'm someone who does well for better s with just validation. Yeah, and that is not the place where no, baby, but you enjoy being a cast member more than the writer. Yes they do. Um yeah, but then it just makes me admire the writing even I just make you admire, like that they have the hardest job. They have the hardest job, and I think in some ways they are the most valued people there, like they truly that that show does not work without well you know, but like but it makes me think about like the turnover, like the like choosing who gets brought on your your your year on the staff for writing a huge deal, like such a painstaking process that they because because if like because you've got to like build up the next Yeah, yeah, of course, because if you know one is everyone matters, even if even even if you're there and you don't think that you matter. That's with across the board. Yes, like when we were I was putting together game show, like hiring everyone so important, so important. Did you enjoy it? Did I enjoy the hiring process? Yes? Did I enjoy like show running it? Nothing it or like because Jennet Evannelos being the executive producer is you have a million little fights a day about this, this, that the other thing, and it's yes, but then it's like it's it's so well with someone like Dave Dave is a good partner for me for that show because he is so aware of, you know, the way things should look and feel and like the way they should take, how much time things should take, and he's very good expressing his opinions, like very in a very concise way. We actually have a very good work dynamics because we're we're good that different things, but we have opinions on everything that so it's like we can see what each other needs. And it's not perfect, right, I mean, like we definitely had it doesn't have bad moments, but perfection has ever rated. Oh yeah, I mean, and I don't I think if it had gone perfectly, I would be like it's wait a minute, yeah, and at the end of the day, like I'm really proud of what it is. If I if I was sitting here not proud of what it is, or if I didn't know what it was going to be, I'd be like, well, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Stay tuned. But I really do hope people download that goddamn app. They will, bitch, I'll do a damn push. I have nothing to do with that. Nothing. Well, you are in it, I'm in it, yes, But I'm not getting the quimpy paychecks. I'm getting the wait, what was your LLC? I gotta geo Galoha production galo LLC, galo, Hello, goodbye? What's a hollow? I don't I don't know. I don't know her read a Hayworth? We did? We we do. It's like every episode we say a different love that, it's a different greeting. Like Camilla Cobellia was like, how is your family? It's such a good bet THO. I think, um, oh, there's I won't give it away, but um yeah, there's a good one in my episode two. I won't give it away either. I believe it was. I believe I could just give it away, but no. That's what I mean to say is like, you know, that really felt like the end of the road for me in like New York in so many ways, but there was, like there's so much good stuff that's happened after that, and I almost feel like in a different era of the podcast I would have been able to say and express what I was going through, but it's been so weird and hard to navigate. As we've gotten a little bit older and more doing this more, doing this more, um and we just But the thing with you is that there's ever been I don't think there's been like a stagnant period for you. You've always worked so so so hard, and it's and you're reaping the rewards of that constantly, and like the first thing, and you'll get things very soon that you don't even realize you're going to get. And like you are, You're the best. You're the best there is. You're the smartest, the funniest, like you no, no, And I'm going to cry now because you're you're the best. You're the best best, You're like there's no one who deserves more. And but like not to even like get caught up in success narrative, because that will always let you down every time. But you know it's not real, it's not real. But I look at you and I think it's just a perfect human being. Oh god, I was fully crying this morning thinking about even coming here too, and I was watching yourself, I was watching you, like it just makes me so proud of you to see you succeed on that show, not only because it's just like my best friend doing well on Saturday Night Live, but because like you know why, I mean, like like it's it's truly like against all odds situation in that like they would never have had a gay person on that show, they would have never had like an Asian person on that show. And then all of a sudden, like you know, it's just really nice to think that people are looking up to you. And I'm not surprised. And that's what I say when I say, like, I think it's different from you when you share stuff because people know or everyone that knows you knows that you come from such like a positive place, and I think that, like I mean, it just doesn't surprise me at all. It doesn't surprise me at all, Like whenever, Like I'm talking about the fact that like my two best friends work at SNL. It's like, what am I supposed to be surprised? There literally two of the smartest people, funniest people ever, And like I could I could have I couldn't be surprised. I was like I can feel like what's going on there? I wish I was there sometimes, but like it's not surprised eyes, it's not like it things things were. When they see that there's talent out there, the best talent, they're going to scoop up that best talent. You better be damn sure, better be damn sure, It'll be absolute damn sure. Taking back Sunday you had, you had a fun like kick this week with fucking what Vanessa Hudgens. Basically, basically what we do is dance. So we were watching that video in the room I'm man and it's the most insane song basically you ready? Did you eat? Did you have the energy? Did you eat? Do you have the energy? So? Are you ready? Did you eat? Did you have an energy? Did you eat? Basically culture number seven? Did you eat? Do you have the energy? Energy? Honestly, it's so crazy that that's a song. It's so happy cray and also how huge the career of Vanessa Hudgens is. I'm so happy for her. She seems like good people. She seems like good people. I watched her manity fair like what I do in a day, you know, like that kind of like those like little videos. I don't know that, but I'm so unsurprised to hear that she has one of those. She's like, yeah, so I just like drive into them with the lot on my in my little camera. She just drives like a very modest car it scenes. I like to play like podcasts, and you know, she's just like I really got a normal person. She books every musical on television. She is the Princess of the Princess, but she's the Christmas She's the New Christmas Movie pant Queen, Christmas Movie Queen. She's Stacy DiNovo and Princess Margaret. And in The New Princess Switch she plays a third character named bad Girl Fiona. There's a bad girl in town and her name is Fiona. Ten There's a bad girl and her name is Fiona, and she's played by Vanessa Hudgins. That's psychotic and genius and so funny that we're going to heighten this by figure put another one. And also they're not twins, they're identical strangers. They look alike, and so basically there's just another one who looks identical to them. But like if if, if it's supposed to represent like some duality of class or whatever, like, where is the third one fit in it? You haven't seen it yet. Basically, I think this woman thinks that feeling is like a bad girl slut, and that is its own class. So it's like there's Stacy DiNovo who's like a baker girl. She could bake in the kitchen with the best of them, Stacy. And then there's Princess Small Grits who's whom Belgrave, Yeah, the town that hosts the festival. And then there's a bad girl Fiona, who I hope comes in who I hope goes in there Vagina first, Toboggan style and says, give me that bakery good, absolutely tearing them down down. Well, wow, love Vanessa basically basically what we're gonna do Vanessa three, Basically what we're gonna do. It's dan dumb, but basically basically, um, yes, Vanessa Hudgens is the queen and we can never forget her seminal contribution to j Lo's first act, of which was second act. What was she in? Second act? Oh? I know you told me this already. Yes, thank you that you find out that the Hodge is the daughter of j Lo. Now, speaking of the Hodge, have you been watching Disney Plus? I saw you've been become a fan of Encore, A huge fan of Encore. I haven't seen much else of the Disney Plus offering, but Encore, I say, I think it such a good reality show. Have you watched any of the Imagineering story I watched the first one, and Miss angela perfect narrator for that. I mean, she is the narre Tress. So what are they? So the first one was just like the beginning of disney Land in six parts. Yes, it goes all the way from the beginnings of his first ideas to have disney Land, which I loved found so fascinating, like it was gonna be like a huge failure and if it failed, and like Disney, he could to borrow so much money. I didn't know that. So it's just so, so I did promptly when I moved to Los Angeles by an annual pass, which has already paid for itself. I have not changed at all, um, And so it's weird now to like go there and then watch this video of them like making the Jungle Cruise, but it and then it's still there. It's still like basically like what it is. Pretty much not a lot of Disneyland has changed. So it goes from part one, which is that, to part six, which ends with like the Future making Rise of the Resistance, which is great. You've been on No, I have to talk about this for a second. Because this is the park culture. This this is really full circle. I gotta say this episode with the whole with the first episode of the of the show, but the whole, the whole fucking run of it. But yeah, go listen. Star Wars Rise of the Resistance is now open at the Walt disney World Hollywood Studios and it's opening on January at disney Land, and it is experience that is over fifteen minutes long. You get into two different ride vehicles. The second ride vehicle has three different ride systems. So it's kind of like it's kind of like Mission Space a little bit. It's a little bit. It's a bitch, I'll tell you what it is. It's a little bit Spider Man. It's a little bit Yes, Guardians of the Galaxy And it's a little bit yes what you said. So it's it's a drop, Guardians of Galaxy's drop. There is a drop in it. Wow. I love that. So basically the ride is you're in Galaxy's Edge the land and then you go and you're like in the Resistance, right, so so like Rai's like, come on, we have to go out, and so so basically, bbe it's like absolutely way to go and so you get in like a spaceship. Ostar is like, hey, yeah, come on. So you get on the spaceship. When you go up, this is the first ride vehicle. You get caught bitch by the first or by the first order by Mr Adams, So do by Ms Adam driver herself and Ms dom Hall Gleason, Miss Redhead Bill Weasley fish, I love that redhead Queen Queen being very mean in miss ride. So you the doors open up and then you walk out. I have not been on this, by the way, I just know the whole storyline. You walk out into a star destroyer. Wow. So there is like a what do you mean you just see a star bit You walk out onto the onto the space ship and you're in space and you see and you see absolute space. Then you go into a holding cell where kaylo Ren herself interrogates you with meme Queen, I mean queen, not Gwendolen, No bitch. Okay, she's not in it. She's not in it, oh man, because she actually passed away in the last job. That's right, she did die. So John Boyega survived though, yes, John is featured in the ride. He's like, we have to go. Now, that's a good John b Now do Kelly Marie. Kelly Marie's like this, I thought, this is the way that's really guys, this this submit this episode for something. So basically, anyway, what happens is you get caught by the First Order, and when they're going to like kill you or interrogate you to get information about the rebel base, you then get onto a ride system that escapes the Star Destroyer. So you essentially gets play out a situation which is like in a New Hope when they're leaving the Yes, it is peak. When he's long, when are you going to go? I'm going, Jared and I are going to January second to Disney World. That's right. I'm so jealous. That's gonna be so much fun. That's You're gonna be in heaven to find someone to date me who wants to buy an annual pass. That's really winning. I think, I think, I think, I think you got a good one. He is a good one. He's a good one. I really really like him. And he was being really good today when I was spinning out, So that then that's huge, and like that's how you know, here's the thing. Stay with the person who is good with you when you are bad, when you are bad. Um, he seems to be traveling a lot, and are you well he's directing a movie right that he wrote. I can't say anything about it, but just as it to say, I want to ask does I want to say? Here's what I want to ask, is that are you? Is there is there like the bigin like are you dealing with the separation? Well? Um, I think we'll be fine. Like then that's huge if you can exist and not fucking further spin out because you're not with the person, huge deal. I think we'll be fine. I'm not super worried about it. Also, it's like you can get on a plane. You can actual number forty one, you can get on a plane. What's going on with your love life? Um? I was talking about this with Jordan Firstmen and Charles Rodgers by the Way to the to the Funniest People, the Craziest bitches. Charles is certifiably insane prankster my Saster. Yes, the coffee thing. Oh wait, if the last culture is the listeners, the readers, If you don't know about this coffee prank, the coffee pank is I think it's such a genius maniacal thing. Charles Rodder just got Game Show from the Search Party off this. He got us so good with the prank. It's too long, it's too long, but it's it's genius. Um. He's my sister Yang's favorite thing of all time, My Yang classic prankster first of all, prankster used to prank a lot back in the day. She loved it anyway. I told I told him that, but Charles was just like, you must be sucking a lot. I'm like, not really like nothing, like like nothing's really changed, Like the dial hasn't really changed. I'm okay with that. I'm just like, but now I just gotta be I just gotta think through that. I just have to like do little like litmus tests like all over the place with each guy. I'm just like, I think you should zoned in on one crush. I've I've been trying. I've been doing that for the past like two weeks, and I can't tell, but I feel like it's like yielded fruit in a way, but not even like yields yielded fruit in terms of like actual in terms of like manifesting and being like I have a crush on this guy and I'm going to pull him to me and then like gradually closer and closer and close and anyway, that's all say. I'll tell you. Have you no no, no, no you have you kiss? Damn sex? You are you saying? Are you saying this? This? This game? Give this fox sex? Um? Oh my god, wait why I'll kiss. I'll tell you more about it because it's actually kind of an insane thing and there's so many there's so much going on there. I'll tell you. I'll tell you what I want to know. What do I know him? Yes? Is it a famous person? It's um no no, no, no, no no, I'll tell you about And it feels like I'm just thinking about it and I don't think it's going to happen. But I'm just in Harry style, no wish. Well, I must get rid of the toxic and this community must get rid of toxic community. Oh the fun thing happened? Well, first of all, I just have to be very publican say anytime you want to tag me and like a must get rid of toxic community, please be sure to tag Coolie because it was his idea. He came up with a lot of the good stuff. I was just his little clocky clock boy on the keyboard, just typing it out and making sure it's structurally it made sense actually real culture number tag. But last night after the show, you have people waiting outside thirty Rock after every show and then, um, I heard like I was walking through to my car and then I heard like a group of a group of people they were like one, two, three, need a real king who can handle all? And I allowed, and it's like that's cute. Yeah, it's cute. It's also so funny that I need a real king that can handle like taking on like the mantle of like people who just you did a young voice for like near a real king and get a handed all. They were all like these like teens that a real kid can handle a me did a really thing that can handle It's eight am and have to go to hell job at serially anyway, Oh, this is a fun bit of Trivia'll share you knew this, but that sketch was originally written for John Molaney last year. Um anyway, and then the brand was originally Nestle, but then they had bought ad space on the show, so it was a little bit of like a crazy thing. We're like, well, we can't like I think serially benefits from that. Ultimately, I absolutely think so, and I will be buying serilely products. Oh please, if you were to buy anything else, that would just be trifling, trifling. Um, I don't want this stand well, like all good things, it must, but we'll do I don't think so, honey, Yes, do you have one? Um? Not really do you have one? Mine was going to be a bombshell. I think you can still do that. I think they're they're this element of surprise with I don't think the honeyes is is overrated. If you want to do it, do it. I think people want it, all right, do you think do you think you think you want to go for it? Yeah? I want to do it. Okay, this is Matt rodgers Is. I don't think so, honey, and it's time starts now. I don't think show honey, bomb schell. Okay, bitch, because Nicole came in. You did this on a damn vacation, all right, and we stand Nicole. But let me tell you something. If Charlie star On studied Megan Kelly for her performance, Nicole kim In studied the emoji that with that's looking down kind of sad. And guess what it was a thin sweater convention. Nicole came into this shot her apart in three or four days from a kitchen while Keith was on the road. Seconds. I don't think so, honey, bombshell because guess what bombshell? Watch one said everything I want to say about this, I don't think so. Um uh, basically that go off so bad. I'm so emotional today, I don't think. I think you could have condensed the narrative and just made it a little bit more clear and streamline. That's my real eyes scout screen right or no, I have nothing, and that's one I don't know. It's put an emotional episode. I didn't come prepared with anything. I came up with my open heart. That's all you, that's all you can do. This has been the most This has been a very rod. You're gonna actually blow me away. No, this is I don't think so honey. I don't think so honey. Christmas trees your bullshit, and every day you fucking take up the damn sidewalks off New York City, bitch with your nettles, nettles shedding on the damn sidewalk into my apartment. I don't think so, honey. And then it's a damn fire hazard. You're inviting a fire hazard into your heart, home, hearth, okay, and you're gonna string some lights around it, plug it in all night. You wake up to go to the bathroom, it's they're blasting into your eyes, and then you're gonna be up, and then your sleep hygienes offhen you're gonna be so shut up. And then I don't think the honey, Christmas trees, don't think so, hony. Wreaths, darling that let the pines be. Do not drag them in from the damn farm. Let the farms just to produce the trees. Let them purify the air and taking the oxygen or taking the carbon monoxide, push out the oxygen. That's what trees are meant to do. And not decorate your room Christmas trees. You ain't secular, you ain't religious, you ain't shit. And that's one minute bullshit, Chris. Wow, you fucking tore them down. Trees, Trees. I have another one. I want to do another one because my first one, this is Matt Rodgers second think. So any times starts now, I don't think, so honey, Christmas sweater. I don't think so many Christmas sweater too big, too warm, too much. I don't think so honey, Christmas sweater party that is ugly. Guess what I want to wear? A nice thing. I make a dollars on dollars, and I don't go out here trying to find something hidios so I can come to your party at your home and be too hot. I don't think so honey, Christmas sweater because often you only get worn in December, and then what for me in January, February, March. I don't think, so honey, the Christmas sweaters that are the most warm, and you wear them in December, which is not one of the colder months. It's it's February, it's sometimes March. I don't think, so honey. These designs on the switter of a reindeer, of a snowman get new, I p. I don't think, so honey. You trash one minute, one of your best, one of your best. I knew I needed to come back and do it. Oh my god, first imagry. I feel like I should do one, but I know you do. Okay, okay, I'll do a bad one. You do a bad, half hearted take on a movie this second, I don't so, honey, his time starts now. I don't think so honey. Fucking Joe Shoe Rabbit. That kid, well, it wasn't clear if he was actually hallucinating Hitler or not. Tyker Tyker. I loved as Hitler. I loved the directing, but you know it was sad. I didn't want the mom to die. Spoiler alert, Did you did I spoil it for you? You know I didn't. I don't want to see Scarlett Johanson die. You're spoiling it for everyone else. Scarlett Johanson better not die. You see her die, you see her get hung. He liked. I can't say. It's really sad, and Scarlett really does a good job of like making you like like that mother a lot second and you know what, I just I do think, so, honey, Scarlett Joe. I like her to I like her. She's cool. She was asking me a lot of like personal class gin that she was asking like everyone. I ran into her makeup people and some of them Asian, and they were all like, they were like, great job to know. It's like thank you. I was like it was so fun to work with her, and they were like, she's like one of the most easy going, like low maintenance people we work we work with, and like she's just like a chill who So who are these makeup people? They work with a bunch of people, I guess I'm sure like they've worked. They're like they're like on different people and like like they've landed on her and they just seem like happy and chill and cool. They're a good crew. They're a good crew. It's like like depending on the host, like some of these some of these entourages are maniacal. But she just had like a good like energy about the whole week. It was the j Lo vibe, good j LEVI was great. I gotta say, she's got two whole I probably can't talk. She's got two whole suitcases full of hair. And I think that's diva energy, iconic and I love we stand, we stand. Um. Yeah, my thing on Joji Rabbitt was turned into turned into a scarlet hands. It is cool and also spoiler fest spoiler. We'll put a little spoiler alert in the beginning of that episode. Sure, sure, anyway, anyway, it feels very surreal it's very surreal to be moving on to another network. Like I said in the beginning of the podcast, Um, but again, we just want to stress and say the biggest thank you too, forever Dog, to Joe and Alex and Emma HB, thank you so much. You have been such an amazing part of our show. And we feel like that really was like one of the hardest things was knowing that you weren't going to produce us anymore so, which feels crazy. It feels crazy, but we but just when we talk, when we hopped on the phone with Joe and Alex, you came up and it was just this, it's really really really sad, true love fest, true let and we had dore you and thank you so much for everything. Thank you for everything, Thank you for putting up with our crazy, crazy crazy what's that okay? All right? Well? Um well well, well, I mean and we said this on the phone to Joe Alex, but I don't know what my career would have been like without this. No, I don't know either. And you can make the argument, you can make the argument that it like gave us a career and like made people familiar with what we are about, and it was just to really really really really really really really really really important part of our lives. It's not I'm saying it was. It was a huge part of our lives and our sort of whatever. Yeah, and we should just say also, um, you guys, while we figure this out, there's going to be a hiatus, a little bit of hiatus. So it's not gonna be too long. It will be too long. One of our focuses is getting this up and running as soon as possible. And while the g of this episode might be a touch on the murreau side, we are going to be so excited to start again, and we hope and you guys don't have to do anything different because you just subscribe to us wherever. Um, so it's not gonna be like you have to change anything, which we probably should have said up top right. Um. But the most important thing and the biggest um thank you that Boonen and I have and want to say for the holidays or whatever until the next time we talk to you guys, is thank you to everyone that's listened, and thank you to everyone that's supporting Bowen and I that means the world to us and who writes reviews and says that you know, for a couple hours a day you laugh, um, and then we break up the day a little bit. That's just That's why I mean, the reason I ever want to do anything is because I love to make people laugh. And so that means the most to me that you say that, UM. And for me it's when it's when people just say that, it feels like they're talking to friends. And for you to feel that familiar with us, I think is so unbelievable, so nice, and all we can do is just do right about you guys. Yeah, and we think we are um. So we will see you in the new year. We love you someone, We love you, And we've always been with the song, always with the song good good Bye to everything that you love, the one thing that I tried to hold on you, good Bye to ye, good Bye to everything that I did. I'm gonna blow my voice on the show you Hello. He's emotioning to me to mark one thing that chut. She wrote that at seventeen years old. Can you believe that? Wow? Icon Icon Michelle Branch the Reginald Taylor Swift, and she is not Vanessa Carlton, the original Taylor Swift. By night, This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Boham, Joe Cilio, and Alex Ramsey. 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