Charlotte Caslick has played three Olympic Games, two Commonwealth Games and three rugby World Cups, and the moment that shaped her wasn't a win. It was a friend texting her that young girls watch her play and think trying hard is cool, because she makes it look cool.

This week we sat down with Charlotte while she's pregnant with her first child and still training through it, broken Broncos and all. We talked about the season she debuted out of position and cried at training while secretly hoping to fall pregnant, the leg break that took the World Cup and the pregnancy off the table in the same week, finding a new sense of purpose before she'd stopped playing, and the one line she posted after Paris that ended up in the New York Times. Full episode out now.

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