Part 3 of four. Bernie Matthews was the longest prisoner in Katingal, Australia's first SuperMax prison, described as an 'electric zoo'.

Part 3 of four. Katingal was Australia’s first SuperMax prison and an experiment in sensory deprivation. Bernie Matthews was the longest serving prisoner in what has been described as an ‘electronic zoo’. At one stage he tried to burn it down before it was shut for good due to the inhumane conditions.

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After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories. 

One of the country’s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption. 

 

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.&nbsp;
One of the country&rsquo;s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.&nbsp;
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After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.

I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories. 

One of the country’s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption. 

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.&nbsp;
One of the country&rsquo;s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.&nbsp;<a href="http://www.icatchkillers.com.au"></a>

After 25 years working homicide, former Detective Gary Jubelin is sitting across the interview room table from cops, crims, and victims.

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.&nbsp;
One of the country&rsquo;s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.&nbsp;

Katingal: A New Kind of Hell

White Lotus star Rob Carlton reveals the cost of fame on Gary Jubelin’s podcast

 White Lotus actor Rob Carlton becomes a suspect in a mock interrogation as Gary Jubelin and Aussie comedian Elouise Eftos demonstrate their detective skills.

White Lotus actor Rob Carlton becomes a suspect in a mock interrogation as Gary Jubelin and Aussie comedian Elouise Eftos demonstrate their detective skills. The two comedians take over hosting duties of I Catch Killers while Gary answers their questions in a lighthearted - and at times chaotic - end of year episode.

 

Learn more about Rob Carlton’s show, Virgin In A Knife Fight, touring nationally in 2026 here, or listen to Rob’s new podcast Braveworlds here.


Learn more about Elouise’s work in progress show, The Trophy, and find out tour dates here.

 

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White Lotus actor Rob Carlton becomes a suspect in a mock interrogation as Gary Jubelin and Aussie comedian Elouise Eftos demonstrate their detective skills. The two comedians take over hosting duties of I Catch Killers while Gary answers their questions in a lighthearted - and at times chaotic - end of year episode.
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Learn more about <a href="https://bio.site/robbyjcarlton">Rob Carlton&rsquo;s show, Virgin In A Knife Fight, touring nationally in 2026 here</a>, or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2UrniNtnTltHLsTCxQpMMx">listen to Rob&rsquo;s new podcast Braveworlds here</a>.
 Learn more about <a href="https://www.instagram.com/weezasqueeza/?hl=en">Elouise&rsquo;s work in progress show, The Trophy, and find out tour dates here.</a>
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Want to hear more from I Catch Killers? Visit news.com.au.
Watch episodes of I Catch Killers on our YouTube channel<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlq8In_ATbJnjFcb-fykqJ8HV9W9OOJWX"> here</a>.&nbsp;
Like the show? Get more at<a href="https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/i-catch-killers/i-catch-killers-gary-jubelins-new-podcast-series-and-book/news-story/6848df9e1b6feccf7508878fc0438f7f"> icatchkillers.com.au </a> Advertising enquiries: newspodcastssold@news.com.au&nbsp;
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Finding love, interrogations and sniffer dogs: Rob Carlton & Elouise Eftos Pt.2

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Rob Carlton and Elouise Eftos ask Gary Jubelin tough questions in podcast special

 From friendship and fame to criminal convictions and becoming Thailand’s accidental sex tourism ambassador, Aussie actor Rob Carlton and comedian Elouise Eftos join Gary Jubelin on the podcast.

Aussie actor Rob Carlton and comedian Elouise Eftos take over hosting duties in these final episodes of the year, asking Gary Jubelin all the tough listener questions. From friendship and fame to criminal convictions and becoming Thailand’s accidental sex tourism ambassador - this chat has a little bit of everything, even Gary’s dog Spike joins the studio.

 

Learn more about Rob Carlton’s show, Virgin In A Knife Fight, touring nationally in 2026 here, or listen to Rob’s new podcast Braveworlds here.


Learn more about Elouise’s work in progress show, The Trophy, and find out tour dates here.

 

Want to hear more from I Catch Killers? Visit news.com.au.

Watch episodes of I Catch Killers on our YouTube channel here. 

Like the show? Get more at icatchkillers.com.au
 Advertising enquiries: newspodcastssold@news.com.au 

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Aussie actor Rob Carlton and comedian Elouise Eftos take over hosting duties in these final episodes of the year, asking Gary Jubelin all the tough listener questions. From friendship and fame to criminal convictions and becoming Thailand&rsquo;s accidental sex tourism ambassador - this chat has a little bit of everything, even Gary&rsquo;s dog Spike joins the studio.
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Learn more about&nbsp;<a href="https://bio.site/robbyjcarlton">Rob Carlton&rsquo;s show, Virgin In A Knife Fight, touring nationally in 2026 here</a>, or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2UrniNtnTltHLsTCxQpMMx">listen to Rob&rsquo;s new podcast Braveworlds here</a>.
 Learn more about <a href="https://www.instagram.com/weezasqueeza/?hl=en">Elouise&rsquo;s work in progress show, The Trophy, and find out tour dates here.</a>
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Want to hear more from I Catch Killers? Visit news.com.au.
Watch episodes of I Catch Killers on our YouTube channel<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlq8In_ATbJnjFcb-fykqJ8HV9W9OOJWX"> here</a>.&nbsp;
Like the show? Get more at<a href="https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/i-catch-killers/i-catch-killers-gary-jubelins-new-podcast-series-and-book/news-story/6848df9e1b6feccf7508878fc0438f7f"> icatchkillers.com.au </a> Advertising enquiries: newspodcastssold@news.com.au&nbsp;
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“Nice man, good man, bald man”: Rob Carlton & Elouise Eftos Pt.1

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Leisl Smith’s sister Jerildene opens up about finally getting answers on Gary Jubelin’s podcast

Jerildene Cane joins Gary Jubelin on I Catch Killers to reflect on fighting the legal system over her sister Leisl Smith’s disappearance, and how her refusal to accept “no” might potentially change the law for other families. 

Justice was shockingly ripped from Leisl Smith’s family when her killer ended his own life. For more than 13 years, Jerildene Cane fought for answers over her little sister’s disappearance. And in September 2025, they finally got them when a coroner handed down her findings. 

Jerildene joins Gary Jubelin on this bonus episode of I Catch Killers to reflect on the unprecedented decision, fighting the legal system and how her refusal to accept “no” might potentially change the law for other families. 

Catch up on Jerildene’s past I Catch Killers podcast interviews. Part one is here, part two is here, and a bonus from the Coroner’s Court is here.

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 Advertising enquiries: newspodcastssold@news.com.au 

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Justice was shockingly ripped from Leisl Smith&rsquo;s family when her killer ended his own life. For more than 13 years, Jerildene Cane fought for answers over her little sister&rsquo;s disappearance. And in September 2025, they finally got them when a coroner handed down her findings.&nbsp;
Jerildene joins Gary Jubelin on this bonus episode of I Catch Killers to reflect on the unprecedented decision, fighting the legal system and how her refusal to accept &ldquo;no&rdquo; might potentially change the law for other families.&nbsp;
Catch up on Jerildene&rsquo;s past I Catch Killers podcast interviews.&nbsp;<a href="https://omny.fm/shows/i-catch-killers-with-gary-jubelin/missing-or-murdered-jerildene-cane-pt-1">Part one is here</a>, <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/i-catch-killers-with-gary-jubelin/justice-for-leisl-jerildene-cane-pt-2">part two is here</a>, and a <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/i-catch-killers-with-gary-jubelin/bonus-coronial-inquest-into-death-of-leisl-smith-jerildene-cane-pt-1">bonus from the Coroner&rsquo;s Court is here</a>.
Want to hear more from I Catch Killers? Visit news.com.au.
Watch episodes of I Catch Killers on our YouTube channel<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlq8In_ATbJnjFcb-fykqJ8HV9W9OOJWX"> here</a>.&nbsp;
Like the show? Get more at<a href="https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/i-catch-killers/i-catch-killers-gary-jubelins-new-podcast-series-and-book/news-story/6848df9e1b6feccf7508878fc0438f7f"> icatchkillers.com.au </a> Advertising enquiries: newspodcastssold@news.com.au&nbsp;
Questions for Gary: icatchkillers@news.com.au&nbsp;
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BONUS: Justice for Leisl Smith: Jerildene Cane

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