On this episode, journalist and bestselling author Julia Baird speaks about her latest book, Bright Shining, which explores the role of grace in our lives: what it is, where to find it, and how to cultivate it. Hosting the conversation is Good Weekend senior writer, Amanda Hooton.

Alex de Minaur on the drive to compete, hitting rock bottom, and his classic car obsession
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Why Helen Garner trained her forensically observant eye on an Aussie rules team - and what she learnt from it
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You Am I's Tim Rogers on addiction and anxiety, playing footy and prowling the stage
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