On this episode, journalist and bestselling author Julia Baird speaks about her latest book, Bright Shining, which explores the role of grace in our lives: what it is, where to find it, and how to cultivate it. Hosting the conversation is Good Weekend senior writer, Amanda Hooton.

Bob Carr on grief and 'the left-over life' after his wife's death
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Courtney Barnett on songwriting, her deadpan delivery – and what she did next
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Kathy Lette on female betrayal: ‘More painful than divorce’
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